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(Some Guy)   Man with medical marijuana card arrested for having too many plants. Drivers with licenses hurry to sell their second car   (kptv.com) divider line 83
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2008-07-26 04:44:41 PM
Wow, thank God that villain is off the streets.
 
2008-07-26 04:45:01 PM
35 mature marijuana plants

That's a lot for personal use, donchathink? He should be arrested.
 
2008-07-26 04:45:25 PM
I hope they give him the chair.

Damned, devil weed!
 
2008-07-26 04:46:09 PM
Much like handicap parking cards , I am sure that these Medical Cards are never misused.
 
2008-07-26 04:46:36 PM
baristanet.typepad.com

BULLshiatE!!!
 
2008-07-26 04:46:50 PM
EL_FABREZ
That's a lot for personal use, donchathink?

No.
 
2008-07-26 04:47:50 PM
Sounds like he was either about to be giving away a bunch or selling it. You can't have it both ways. If you want it legal it needs to be regulated. Quite simply he had too much and should have followed the rules. Should he be given years of prison? NO. Should he pay a nasty fine and some community service? YEP.
 
2008-07-26 04:48:16 PM
EL_FABREZ: 35 mature marijuana plants

That's a lot for personal medical use, donchathink? He should be arrested.


FTFY
 
2008-07-26 04:50:39 PM
FTFA: The case stemmed from a charge that Kauffman was involving a minor in a drug offense because he had employed a 15-year-old to help him tend his plants, deputies said.

Okay, so this generation of kids not only get to bang their hot teachers, they get to tend their neighbors pot gardens? What the fark, did my every hope and dream as a child come true for other kids??
 
2008-07-26 04:51:20 PM
AbsolutTBomb's alt: EL_FABREZ
That's a lot for personal use, donchathink?

No.



With that amount of plants you could smoke an ounce every day and have leftovers. I doubt a medical marijuana user needs that much. He's exploiting his card and ruining it for people who use weed according to law.
 
2008-07-26 04:51:42 PM
EL_FABREZ: 35 mature marijuana plants

That's a lot for personal use, donchathink? He should be arrested.


Week night or weekend? Yes or No!
 
2008-07-26 04:51:45 PM
outatime: FTFA: The case stemmed from a charge that Kauffman was involving a minor in a drug offense because he had employed a 15-year-old to help him tend his plants, deputies said.

Okay, so this generation of kids not only get to bang their hot teachers, they get to tend their neighbors pot gardens? What the fark, did my every hope and dream as a child come true for other kids??


Yes, including boinking Mrs. Hodgins.

She was hot.

But Timmy down the street got to do it.
 
2008-07-26 04:53:49 PM
Here's how it seems to have gone down from my reading:

Man hires 15 year old kid to help him take care of his pot plants, probly the same kid that mows his lawn.

15 year old kid brags to friends.

word gets back to 15 year old's mother.

Mother calls the cops.

Cops charge him with an offense they'd never know about, while figuring out if having your lawnboy weed your Weed patch is illegal.
 
2008-07-26 04:54:04 PM
soupbone: Should he be given years of prison? NO. Should he pay a nasty fine and some community service? YEP.

Guess what is more likely to happen, though?
 
2008-07-26 04:54:16 PM
I live in Oregon and am well aware of the laws on medical marijuana, and I'm sure he was too. 35 plants is WAY more than he needs for personal use. He may have only been distributing to other MMP patients and not to pleasure smokers, but he had to know what he was doing was illegal and that he could have his crop checked any time regardless of where the pot was going.

That said, the shiat should be totally legal. It shouldn't be controlled any more than alcohol or tobacco.
 
2008-07-26 04:54:36 PM
AbsolutTBomb's alt: EL_FABREZ
That's a lot for personal use, donchathink?

No.


Ditto.

Up to 60% could be male, depending on stressors. If they hadn't flowered, there is no way to tell. Male plants are worthless and destroyed. So let's say 16 adult female plants, not too terribly many. Otherwise, yes, arrest him, but allow the rest of us to grow legally up to 10-20.

Simply stated, legalize home growing, the bottom drops out of the black market and criminality (associated with weed sales) disappears overnight.
 
2008-07-26 04:54:54 PM
spidermann: But Timmy down the street got to do it.

S'alright. When he was at summer camp, I banged his mom.
 
2008-07-26 04:55:48 PM
Why does it need to be regulated any more then alcohol? Do they arrest people who order kegs for parties? No, who the fark are you to tell me that I can't light up a farking joint and chill out on my couch. Marijuana does not cause deaths, alcohol does. If you don't like it don't smoke it, but I'll be damned if you will sit there and tell me what I can and cant do with my body when I'm not hurting anyone by getting stoned.

/steady job
//gun owner
///pot smoker
////valuable member of society
 
2008-07-26 04:56:40 PM
The comparison to a second car is just ignorant. I know the rest of the country doesn't get it, but when you get medical here you are alloted a certain amount of plants. Period. The federal limit is something like 90 in Humboldt county I think, but here in Butte county we get 10. 10 is plenty for us to get by with personal use and we can't carry very much in our cars or person. DO NOT GROW MORE THAN 10 jerkoffs. Why try and ruin this for everyone?
 
2008-07-26 04:57:02 PM
what a asshat. you give someone a inch and they take a mile and make everyone involved in the medical marijuana card program look like a scumbag. hey subby, you can own many cars but you can't go over the speed limit because of ...laws.
 
2008-07-26 04:57:04 PM
This is only as asinine as being pulled over for speeding. You break the law and get punished.
 
2008-07-26 04:58:32 PM
Crown_of_Shoes: AbsolutTBomb's alt: EL_FABREZ
That's a lot for personal use, donchathink?

No.

Ditto.

Up to 60% could be male, depending on stressors. If they hadn't flowered, there is no way to tell. Male plants are worthless and destroyed. So let's say 16 adult female plants, not too terribly many. Otherwise, yes, arrest him, but allow the rest of us to grow legally up to 10-20.

Simply stated, legalize home growing, the bottom drops out of the black market and criminality (associated with weed sales) disappears overnight.


So you have to prove you're growing it if you're smoking it?

farkin' sweet.
 
2008-07-26 04:58:48 PM
EL_FABREZ: With that amount of plants you could smoke an ounce every day and have leftovers. I doubt a medical marijuana user needs that much. He's exploiting his card and ruining it for people who use weed according to law.

Some pot smokers are extremely picky on what they smoke. It is entirely possible that all of it was for personal use, they were just smoking the best stuff and leaving the rest. Again, in a just world, the government would have to prove that it wasn't all for personal use.
 
2008-07-26 04:59:37 PM
Crown_of_Shoes: Simply stated, legalize home growing, the bottom drops out of the black market and criminality (associated with weed sales) disappears overnight.

Well that's just farking swell. Do you have any idea how much harder that would make getting proper funding for the DEA, not to mention all of the honest hardworking Americans that would be out of work as prison populations dwindled?

Christ. What kind of future do you want to live in, anyhow?
 
2008-07-26 05:00:46 PM
Crosshair: Again, in a just world, the government would have to prove that it wasn't all for personal use.

Sadly, when drugs are involved (no, I won't even go that far... when the SUSPICION of drugs is involved... even carrying around a decent amount of cash is enough), justice is blind.
 
2008-07-26 05:01:27 PM
You can have 2.2 pounds of dried ready to smoke weed in Oregon as a card holder. The growing limitations aren't unreasonable at all, this guy was an idiot.
 
2008-07-26 05:03:10 PM
Crown_of_Shoes: AbsolutTBomb's alt: EL_FABREZ
That's a lot for personal use, donchathink?

No.

Ditto.

Up to 60% could be male, depending on stressors. If they hadn't flowered, there is no way to tell. Male plants are worthless and destroyed. So let's say 16 adult female plants, not too terribly many. Otherwise, yes, arrest him, but allow the rest of us to grow legally up to 10-20.

Simply stated, legalize home growing, the bottom drops out of the black market and criminality (associated with weed sales) disappears overnight.


A man who knows his stuff. I can add that Deer will thin your crop to nothing in just one night. That's what a forest told me :)
 
2008-07-26 05:03:24 PM
Damn hoodlums dropping seeds into my lawn.

/Get off my lawn
 
2008-07-26 05:05:27 PM
A Shambling Mound: Crown_of_Shoes: Simply stated, legalize home growing, the bottom drops out of the black market and criminality (associated with weed sales) disappears overnight.

Well that's just farking swell. Do you have any idea how much harder that would make getting proper funding for the DEA, not to mention all of the honest hardworking Americans that would be out of work as prison populations dwindled?

Christ. What kind of future do you want to live in, anyhow?


Where children are warned about drugs that actually would cause them harm (meth/heroin)? Where you could actually be free in a country that advertises freedom?

America was free 150 years ago. Then they came out with income tax.
 
2008-07-26 05:06:11 PM
If God wanted us to smoke weed, he would have given us marijuana plants and free will.
 
2008-07-26 05:07:55 PM
AbsolutTBomb's alt: EL_FABREZ
That's a lot for personal use, donchathink?

No.


With that amount of plants you could smoke an ounce every day and have leftovers. I doubt a medical marijuana user needs that much. He's exploiting his card and ruining it for people who use weed according to law.



im sorry, but an ounce every day is not that much. espically since most medical patients have to smoke it constantly.

you can pack an ounce into a pack of dutches. i dont think 4 blunts a day is that hard to imagine.
 
brx
2008-07-26 05:08:16 PM
You should be able to buy and sell weed, use it for any purpose you want, and grow as much as you want. IMO.

I still won't use it.. but I'm not here to prevent you from using it.

/Thank God my precious alcohol is legal.
 
2008-07-26 05:08:50 PM
Tobin_Lam: punished

I totally agree, and all those gassed jews in Nazi germany totally needed punishment wtf didn't they know being a jew was illegal?

And the blacks on the front of the bus?! DID NO ONE TELL THEM THAT WAS ILLEGAL?!
 
2008-07-26 05:09:48 PM
sift: im sorry, but an ounce every day is not that much.

Man, party at YOUR house.
 
2008-07-26 05:09:50 PM
Don't most producers work from female clones of a know quality? It just makes it easier if all the stuff matures at the same rate and you don't waste time and space raising males.
 
2008-07-26 05:09:57 PM
What if he was just growing one big batch and storing it up so he didn't have to grow all year?
 
2008-07-26 05:12:14 PM
The average maturation cycle of a plant is roughly 4 months under the right growing conditions; longer depending on the type of strain.

Depending on the size of the plant, you may be able to obtain 100 to 140 grams per plant. An ounce is roughly 28 grams. Suppose a habitual smoker consumes half an ounce a week.

Pardon my math skills, but I calculated that having the maximum number (6 plants) in an steady cycle means 2520 grams/90 ounces per year vs. consuming 2 ounces per month/24 per year. So yeah that sounds like plenty..

Then again.. his plants could be anywhere from 2 to 8 feet tall and could be producing far less than what I found from a quick google search about average the harvest amount per plant. Furthermore, these plants may not be growing under the optimal conditions - light, soil, water, etc.

Either way.. we don't know how much he consumes or whether the plants were male/female/producers. I say let the man grow as many plants as he wants, as long as he keeps them to himself.

\or shares with me
 
2008-07-26 05:14:49 PM
*gurgle gurgle gurgle............*

WHOOOOOOSSHH

*cough cough*

/I'm really getting a kick...
 
2008-07-26 05:17:47 PM
Medical MJ is quite weird out here. A tangled web. You're generally allowed 6 mature or 12 immature plants. Makes a perpetual harvest tough. Also, plant limits mean shiat. With outdoor plants or the SCROG technique inside, 6 plants can produce a whole lot of ganja. More sensible regs would be on canopy size or total wattage of lights, and probably different rules on OD plants. As it is now, helicopters fly over med crops, count posted scrips (posted face up) and plants, and leave 'em be. But at harvest time, there is usually a lot more pot than one is allowed to possess. Catch-22. Haven't heard of many harvest raids after mapping grows yet, but...

Med users need to quit sheltering loadies. Loadies need to quit hiding behind med use and fight for real legalization.
 
2008-07-26 05:23:38 PM
nosepicker: Crown_of_Shoes: AbsolutTBomb's alt: EL_FABREZ
That's a lot for personal use, donchathink?

No.

Ditto.

Up to 60% could be male, depending on stressors. If they hadn't flowered, there is no way to tell. Male plants are worthless and destroyed. So let's say 16 adult female plants, not too terribly many. Otherwise, yes, arrest him, but allow the rest of us to grow legally up to 10-20.

Simply stated, legalize home growing, the bottom drops out of the black market and criminality (associated with weed sales) disappears overnight.

A man who knows his stuff. I can add that Deer will thin your crop to nothing in just one night. That's what a forest told me :)


Well here's my take on it. You're right that many times you end up with more male plants than female. My roommates and I grew a few months ago, and 7 out of our 10 plants were male. But, if you're growing 35 plants like this guy, I'd wager a bet that he bought them already feminized, guaranteeing that the plants would be female. Or since they were already mature, like the article said, odds are they're all female plants anyway. Once you see a male plant, you yank it out. Never mix em. Now I don't see a problem with him growing (even 35 plants), but if you've got the ability to grow "legally" under the law, don't stretch it and grow 6 times as many as legally allowed.

/Pigs get fat, hogs get slaughtered
 
2008-07-26 05:24:00 PM
Wait.......what were we talking about?
 
2008-07-26 05:24:37 PM
/Lives in same town.
//Used to tend garden for an old hippie.
///Getting a kick out of all you farkers.
 
2008-07-26 05:28:00 PM
i'll be toking up around 830 tonight after work, so i'm really getting a kick out of these replies...

/no, seriously, this thread makes me want to get high
 
2008-07-26 05:33:39 PM
What is this "soil" you speak of?

I guess I used to know the farking Monsanto of growers. ADM, at least.
 
2008-07-26 05:35:49 PM
sift: im sorry, but an ounce every day is not that much. espically since most medical patients have to smoke it constantly.

you can pack an ounce into a pack of dutches. i dont think 4 blunts a day is that hard to imagine.


You're kidding me right? You're talking about smoking 28 grams a day. No, that's a shiat load. That's not good. I consider myself a regular smoker at about 1-2 grams a day, mainly at night when I get off work/no classes to study for. Most medical patients do not smoke it constantly. They smoke it when the symptoms/illnesses/pain they're suffering from come up and need to be suppressed.

You need to quit smoking that ditch weed and move up to chronic. One hit should take care of you. Not 4 7-gram blunts.
 
2008-07-26 05:36:36 PM
Why do any of you care if someone grows or smokes pot? Who really gives a shait?

/doesn't smoke
//never has
///should be legalized
 
2008-07-26 05:39:36 PM
EL_FABREZ: With that amount of plants you could smoke an ounce every day and have leftovers.

Hahahaha... No.

I doubt a medical marijuana user needs that much.

Gee, good thing thats only your opinion.

He's exploiting his card and ruining it for people who use weed according to law.

No, again.
 
2008-07-26 05:43:39 PM
As soon as the other half of my states legislature gets their ass in gear, I'm going to be getting some of this. According to the proposed law, you can hold 2 ounces out of your house and grow up to 12 plants. It didn't say what immature/mature was.

You FARKers seem to be quite knowledgeable on this, any guides you'd recommend?
 
2008-07-26 05:48:01 PM
The_EliteOne
any guides you'd recommend?

img504.imageshack.us

He'll guide ya.
 
2008-07-26 05:48:50 PM
I'm smoking right now, so I'm really getting a kick out of these Doritos
 
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