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(The Consumerist)   Step 1) We're sorry, but the trailer you won in our e-bay auction is full of bees. Step 2) What trailer? We never sold you a trailer. Step 3) Lawsuit   (consumerist.com ) divider line
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2008-07-25 12:29:32 PM  
Can we say lawsuit?
 
2008-07-25 12:37:21 PM  
I like my trailer the way I like my women. Filled with bees!
 
2008-07-25 12:37:30 PM  
Step 3) Lawsuit

nkanofolives: Can we say lawsuit?


Evidently.
 
2008-07-25 12:42:27 PM  
www.gamerevolution.com
 
2008-07-25 12:43:50 PM  
We have vacuumed up the bees that covered the floors, cabinets, and furniture. We tried to clean the traces of honey on the countertops and cabinet tops as completely as possible. This is one of the terrible acts of Mother Nature we have in Arizona. As best we can determine, the bees entered from the door that had been left opened yesterday morning.

Africanized honey bees. They kill fast. They set up shop fast.
 
2008-07-25 12:58:06 PM  
TFA: We tried to clean the traces of honey on the countertops and cabinet tops as completely as possible. This is one of the terrible acts of Mother Nature we have in Arizona. As best we can determine, the bees entered from the door that had been left opened yesterday morning.

WOW! Honey production in just 24 hours? Those are some kick-ass bees! I want some of them,
even if they are the slightly more dangerous bla African bees.

/Seriously, that's a SWEET turn-around on a honey factory!
 
2008-07-25 12:58:24 PM  
Wow. I guess maybe they were thinking that they would get to sell it for more than the 29k standard price?

Don't know that there's really much to make of it. Their account should be terminated and his $250 deposit sent back.

Sounds like a case of redneck + internet + business transaction = confusion and panic.
 
2008-07-25 01:00:02 PM  
I'm thinking some go-getter of a salesman created that 'tucsonrv' account on eBay thinking he'd found a new way to make some commissions.

It'll be interesting to see how this plays out.
 
2008-07-25 01:00:06 PM  
submitter: e-bay

eBay.
 
2008-07-25 01:00:55 PM  

Otherwise Just Fine: Wow. I guess maybe they were thinking that they would get to sell it for more than the 29k standard price?

Don't know that there's really much to make of it. Their account should be terminated and his $250 deposit sent back.

Sounds like a case of redneck + internet + business transaction = confusion and panic.


Sounds more like a case of blatant fraud. They should be forced to hold up their end of the contract AND their account should be terminated.
 
2008-07-25 01:09:48 PM  
This story is made of awesome. Except for the fact that they are shamelessly dishonest, I would shoot them my business just for the hilarity of their excuse. Killer bees?
 
2008-07-25 01:12:06 PM  
SpamMan5R:
Sounds more like a case of blatant fraud. They should be forced to hold up their end of the contract AND their account should be terminated.

I agree that SHOULD be done, but over 250 bucks I'd take my money and get on with my life. If he really looks into the trouble of lawyers, it's probably not worth it. It'd be a lot easier to just walk away with the pride that he made fools of them to the world.
 
2008-07-25 01:14:04 PM  
Otherwise Just Fine: I agree that SHOULD be done, but over 250 bucks I'd take my money and get on with my life. If he really looks into the trouble of lawyers, it's probably not worth it. It'd be a lot easier to just walk away with the pride that he made fools of them to the world.

Well... it sounds like he is going to save $15,000....

Pat won an auction for an RV on eBay last week. He bid a little over $15,000 for a vehicle that was listed for sale by the RV company for $29,999 on other sites
 
2008-07-25 01:21:05 PM  
Sounds more like a case of blatant fraud. They should be forced to hold up their end of the contract AND their account should be terminated.

I agree that SHOULD be done, but over 250 bucks I'd take my money and get on with my life.


The confusion may stem from the fact that the first thing you said was Their account should be terminated and his $250 deposit sent back

Which is absolutely not the case.
 
2008-07-25 01:28:51 PM  
Didn't this happen with a BMW M3 a few months ago? Too bad this dealership doesn't read the internet, they would have known that it will only end poorly.
 
2008-07-25 01:29:51 PM  
 
2008-07-25 01:43:55 PM  
It would be sweet justice if a local beekeeper "accidentally" released tens of thousands of the little buzzers upon that dealership.
 
2008-07-25 01:54:09 PM  
I like my women like I like my RVs....covered in bees.
 
2008-07-25 02:07:28 PM  
CyberDave: I like my women like I like my RVs....covered in bees.

How YOU doing? ;-)
 
2008-07-25 02:09:34 PM  

Lorelle: It would be sweet justice if a local beekeeper "accidentally" released tens of thousands of the little buzzers upon that dealership.


I'm a bit more cynical (though I like your idea). I figure that, if the dealership is forced to honor the deal, that trailer is going to be seriously tampered with before delivery. I'd be bringing my mechanic to the delivery.
 
2008-07-25 02:12:51 PM  

SpaceyCat: CyberDave: I like my women like I like my RVs....covered in bees.

How YOU doing? ;-)


Do you want a cup of coffee?
 
2008-07-25 02:13:14 PM  
Specific performance FTW.
 
2008-07-25 02:13:35 PM  
Once killer honey gets all up in your motherboard, you can forget about it.

I hate that when that happenz...leave ma motherboard alone!
 
2008-07-25 02:17:24 PM  
why the fark do i want a caravan thats got farking bees you bought how you saw it nobody brings a fellow the size of you unless they want to say something without talking

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2008-07-25 02:19:00 PM  
dahmers love zombie: Do you want a cup of coffee?

I have to go now, 'cause my grandmother's on fire...
 
2008-07-25 02:21:27 PM  

CyberDave: dahmers love zombie: Do you want a cup of coffee?

I have to go now, 'cause my grandmother's on fire...


And she has a Scottish accent, like Mrs. Badcrumble.

/getting a bit more esoterically Izzard
 
2008-07-25 02:33:14 PM  

dahmers love zombie: Do you want a cup of coffee?


I do...pass one over.
 
2008-07-25 02:44:43 PM  

dahmers love zombie


CyberDave: dahmers love zombie: Do you want a cup of coffee?

I have to go now, 'cause my grandmother's on fire...

And she has a Scottish accent, like Mrs. Badcrumble.

/getting a bit more esoterically Izzard


Mrs. Badcrumble was everyone's clarinet teacher.

*arranges matches*
 
2008-07-25 02:45:01 PM  

Gecko Gingrich: We have vacuumed up the bees that covered the floors, cabinets, and furniture. We tried to clean the traces of honey on the countertops and cabinet tops as completely as possible. This is one of the terrible acts of Mother Nature we have in Arizona. As best we can determine, the bees entered from the door that had been left opened yesterday morning.

Africanized honey bees. They kill fast. They set up shop fast.


Africanized honey bee - the DMX of the bee kingdom.
 
2008-07-25 02:48:07 PM  
Give me five bees for a quarter.

Guess that comes to 300,000 bees.
 
2008-07-25 02:50:17 PM  

Gig103: Didn't this happen with a BMW M3 a few months ago?


A BMW M3 full of bees?

Can bees drive?
 
2008-07-25 02:51:16 PM  
i say sue for all they got...that ought to teach em to be retards on the internet
 
2008-07-25 02:51:28 PM  
I always wondered about the whole contract thing with eBay. As an eBay seller, my contract is with eBay not with the buyer. The exception would be if I either a) accept the money and don' give them the goods and KEEP the money (the money changing hands implies a contract) or b) if I accept the money and send the item but it is not as described (again, sending implied a contract). From a buyer's side, accepting the item but no sending money would also be a breach.

But until those external events occur, the only contract is with eBay. In other words, no matter how many times eBay says, "It's a binding contract," I don't see how that can be the case. I can say, "If two people walk through my property, they must live together" but that doesn't mean they agree to the contract.

Plus, everyone knows that Africanized bees are scared of water.
 
2008-07-25 02:52:18 PM  
Wow...what an incredible story.

Seriously, kudos to the RV people for coming up with the bee story. Yeah, they're total jack-asses that didn't know how Ebay worked and set such a low starting price....but still, Africanized bees? That's just priceless.
 
2008-07-25 02:53:33 PM  
Where did they get the dead bees for the picture?
 
2008-07-25 02:53:51 PM  
Africanized honey bee, cue AL SHARPTON!!!
 
2008-07-25 02:54:31 PM  
damnit. Can't find the sienfield "bees!" picture.
 
2008-07-25 02:54:39 PM  

bugmn99:
Africanized honey bee - the DMX of the bee kingdom.


Yes, the only kind of bee known for rapping about violent homo-eroticism.
 
2008-07-25 02:55:09 PM  
Why does Fark not have a FAIL tag again?
 
2008-07-25 02:55:09 PM  

Dr.Zom: Where did they get the dead bees for the picture?


It's easy to find bees thanks to the whole global warming thing.
 
2008-07-25 02:55:22 PM  
BEES!?

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2008-07-25 02:55:41 PM  

Cormee: A BMW M3 full of bees?

Can bees drive?


Must.... resist.... "Bee-mer" pun....
 
2008-07-25 02:56:14 PM  
tonesskin: until those external events occur, the only contract is with eBay. In other words, no matter how many times eBay says, "It's a binding contract," I don't see how that can be the case. I can say, "If two people walk through my property, they must live together" but that doesn't mean they agree to the contract.

Ah, but the difference between eBay and your example is that on eBay, each user has already agreed, by contract, to be bound by their auction commitments to other eBay members. You can't open an account otherwise.
 
2008-07-25 02:57:47 PM  
Bees, bees, bad for your heart...
 
2008-07-25 02:57:56 PM  

Nakito: Ah, but the difference between eBay and your example is that on eBay, each user has already agreed, by contract, to be bound by their auction commitments to other eBay members. You can't open an account otherwise.


So I have an agreement with eBay, not another company. Ebay can handle my breach by booting me, but that's it. My agreement with eBay is to abide by their codes of conduct. The penalty for that is that I can no longer use their services.
 
2008-07-25 02:58:10 PM  

tonesskin: I always wondered about the whole contract thing with eBay. As an eBay seller, my contract is with eBay not with the buyer. The exception would be if I either a) accept the money and don' give them the goods and KEEP the money (the money changing hands implies a contract) or b) if I accept the money and send the item but it is not as described (again, sending implied a contract). From a buyer's side, accepting the item but no sending money would also be a breach.



He sent them their deposit requirement of $250.00, only to have it refunded later. He re-submitted the deposit and has yet to recieve a refund. Does a deposit on goods also imply a contract?

/no snark
//I haven't a clue, and it may be good to know.
 
2008-07-25 02:58:34 PM  
I was reprimanded the other night for questioning a post title, however I feel obliged to ask the question - is that headline correct?

From what I can make out the vendor is contacting the purchaser to say the caravan is full of bees, then either the purchaser or the vendor is saying 'what trailer?', and then the vendor is denying having sold a trailer. It just doesn't make sense in my small brain.
 
2008-07-25 03:00:42 PM  
What if it was dogs that shoot bees from their mouths ??
 
2008-07-25 03:00:43 PM  
Car dealers are among the worst kind of humanity.

They are in business to take your money. They're going to give you the worst deal imagineable, and if they can't do that, they will bail out of it and just walk away.

You can't win.

Very rarely when they make a mistake that can actually be documented fully, as in this case, you can try to sue them.

Good luck. It's going to be an ugly, difficult way to get a car.
 
2008-07-25 03:01:49 PM  
Thank you, T.M.S. I came here to see a Snatch reference, and I wasn't disappointed.


//dewya like dags?
 
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