canyoneer: It's the petroleum, stupid. It's absolutely killing us.

Second Try: Why did Obama forged his birth certificate? What does he have to hide?

Where did he get that Hussein surname? Is he a relative of Saddam Hussein?

Teh stoopid... it hurts my eyes...

I hardly believe that Andrea Mitchell's opinion on something qualifies as a "scandal".

WaltzingMathilda

Fair enough :)

BojanglesPaladin: What is even funnier is that there are plenty of right wingers and plenty of left wingers who are all convinced I am firmly on the other side.

Name a right-winger who's convinced you are a left-winger.

And I know YOU cannot seem to comprehend anything but the most foaming, rabid partisan conceptualizations on ANY topic, which is why you are generally one of more boorish Farkers, and why I generally regret engaging you in a discussion.

I'm very partisan, though my principles aren't actually represented by any party, at the moment they're represented best by Obama. They were last represented very well by Tsongas. My favorite candidate for president would be Olympia Snowe, who's a Republican.

I'm not in the least bit embarrassed or afraid to state that I'm partisan. I'm highly partisan towards civil libertarianism. I'm not foaming and/or rabid about it-- though I am persistent. You do seem to be one of the group that gets very, very butthurt about being asked questions about their positions-- I'm not going to stop doing it, though. You are free to ignore my questions.

Yes, I honestly know that there are plenty of people who have been here long enough to know I am not completely partisan.

Name one.

Fark-the-Fnord has pwninated canyoneer.

canyoneer you may now slink quietly out or piss and moan, but you will always know the sting of pure pwnage.

boot20: Fark-the-Fnord has pwninated canyoneer.

canyoneer you may now slink quietly out or piss and moan, but you will always know the sting of pure pwnage.

Why, Thank you

canyoneer: Uncle Sam is a collection practices and policies

canyoneer: Uncle Sam has pursued these major policies,

You're saying "Uncle Sam" has pursued himself?

"Uncle Sam" is not a real person.

Another non-story, forgotten by the end of the day, and for good reason.

Nabb1: Thank you, Observo, Master of That Which We
Already See.

Hey Nabb1: on a scale of one to ten, with one being red in the face and ten being suicidal, exactly how embarrassed are you right now? Because to be honest I am cringing a little over here.

canyoneer: I think I'll just write myself in or abstain. It won't make any difference either way.

Why would anyone care about the opinions of a person who cannot be bothered to at least pretend to participate in the democratic process? What if you got paid $20 to vote, would you vote then?

canyoneer: It's the petroleum, stupid. It's absolutely killing us.

Ha ha what a rube you are. The War is a money-grab and ideological conflict benefiting thousands of individuals who will all become famous and/or millionaires as a result. Thinking you have a one-word justification for a trillion-dollar conflict is laughable, so I laugh: ha ha. "Petroleum".

DroxInxThexWind /You can always tell when a person isn't writing naturally

Scintillating rebuttal. Thesaurus? I AM a thesaurus, as I was blessed with parents who were teachers. I appreciate your derision, however, as it illustrates your jealousy.

Obdicut

Canyoneer has attacked me for seemingly defending the left's postion. Hell, even Bevets and I have gotten into dust-ups. Whidbey and I have been on the same and opposite sides of various issues. etc. etc.

Shall I go on?

Friction8r: I was blessed with parents who were teachers.

Industrial Arts or Home Economics?

You know left wing, right wing, in the end it is all the parts of the same bird.

Friction8r: DroxInxThexWind /You can always tell when a person isn't writing naturally

Scintillating rebuttal. Thesaurus? I AM a thesaurus, as I was blessed with parents who were teachers. I appreciate your derision, however, as it illustrates your jealousy.

You struck me more as the stegasaurus type

BojanglesPaladin: Canyoneer has attacked me for seemingly defending the left's postion. Hell, even Bevets and I have gotten into dust-ups. Whidbey and I have been on the same and opposite sides of various issues. etc. etc.

Cayoneer is not right-wing, though. Bevets is not right-wing either. So... yeah, you might want to go on.

You made a claim that right-wingers have been convinced you were left-wing. Can you provide an example of that? And can you provide an example of someone who believes you to be non-partisan? (it helps if they're not clearly partisan themselves)?

Remember: I don't think that partisan is a negative. I definitely embrace being partisan. I find it odd that so many people want to be believed to be non-partisan.

Fark-the-Fnord: You know left wing, right wing, in the end it is all the parts of the same bird.

That's RIGHT!!
And that bird is the AMERICAN EAGLE!!

Some of you in the back don't have your hands over your flag lapel pins yet...

I hear a lot about Bevets but I think he was a lot more prevalent before I started really getting into the threads. Could someone please give me a brief history.

Bevets hearts God.

Friction8r: I appreciate your derision, however, as it illustrates your jealousy.

Are you farking with us right now?

Obdicut: I find it odd that so many people want to be believed to be non-partisan.

It's not odd at all. Most of the new "independents" we're all seeing so much of recently are disgruntled Republicans. They're in the larval stages of liberalism and still too proud to admit it, so they're claiming to be non-partisan for the next couple of years.

Fark-the-Fnord: I hear a lot about Bevets but I think he was a lot more prevalent before I started really getting into the threads. Could someone please give me a brief history.

Biblical literalist. Famed for taking quotes out of context and making it appear that people are attacking evolution. Links incessantly to his own website. Not a mean or unkind person, just insane.

He's in this thread: Link (new window)

bad_ed: Bevets hearts God.

OK, I love God too, does that make me crazy or something?

Obdicut
So... yeah, you might want to go on.

I doubt there is a point. If you want to convince yourself (and you proudly proclaim your intent to do so) to see things in a redteam/blueteam view, then go right ahead. If foolsih consistancy is the hobgoblin of little minds, then you may just belong on a poster. Blind adherance to a particular political party's positions is one of the most definitive indicators of weak reasoning powers.

So I will accept that you can only conceptualize my posts once you have mentaly ascribed a glowing red [R] to them, and you have announced that you want all of your commenbts to be viewed as coming with a [D] label. It's stupid, but I can't do anything about it.

But just for giggles, can you provide me an example of 'partisan' comments in.. say... THIS thread?

UnkleKrakker: Some of you in the back don't have your hands over your flag lapel pins yet...

Even now, I finger it affectionately, yet firmly...

/y'know...
//like a patriot

Well it's not a total scandal, it's just a point of hypocracy in the Obama campaign. They stressed 'Transparency' and yet thier candidate is being handled to a degree that many have never seen before. Though I can understand why. Between Obama claiming "Isreal is a good friend to Isreal and will remain a good friend to Isreal for many years to come." and one of his top advisors slipping up and calling him The President of the United States, I can understand the need to shelter him from the media.

It does tend to lead one to believe that this trip is more about photo ops and free publicity than it is about finding facts.

Oh and not only will Obama heal the oceans, but his wife is claiming electing him will save the children. The Rhetoric this year has really ratcheted up.

Fark-the-Fnord: I hear a lot about Bevets but I think he was a lot more prevalent before I started really getting into the threads. Could someone please give me a brief history.

A brief history of the QUOTE bot?

In the olden days, Drew needed some help in stimulating traffic in the threads so he invented the BevetsBot(TM).

This bot is activated in any thread related to mythology or evolution.

The same old tired quotes void of any original thought.

If I had to sum it up in a single word...

VAPID

Obdicut: Fark-the-Fnord: I hear a lot about Bevets but I think he was a lot more prevalent before I started really getting into the threads. Could someone please give me a brief history.

Biblical literalist. Famed for taking quotes out of context and making it appear that people are attacking evolution. Links incessantly to his own website. Not a mean or unkind person, just insane.

He's in this thread: Link (new window)

Oh so basically he is my Brother in Law, cool.

Fark-the-Fnord: bad_ed: Bevets hearts God.

OK, I love God too, does that make me crazy or something?

No, you aren't crazy.

Bevets takes it to far - he is a fundimentalist. Obdicut's description is far more informative; he was before my time too, but I cannot speak for any Total Fark Shenanigans.

Fark-the-Fnord

Short synopsis - Bevets was notorious for flame-bombing any thread that even came close to bordering on religion. He would swamp threads with virulent, rabid and extremely verbose posts quoting scripture, expounding his own unique exclusivist Christanity and generaly explaining to various and sundry why exactly, they would be going to hell for taking any view that deviated slightly from his particular orthodoxy.

It got so bad, and so cetain that he would firebomb, that anytime a religious thread was started, people would begin posting a 'Summon Bevets' image:


(Yes the man gets results on Google).

He has mostly retired from the field of battle, but he was quite a force of nature back in the day.

BojanglesPaladin: I doubt there is a point. If you want to convince yourself (and you proudly proclaim your intent to do so) to see things in a redteam/blueteam view, then go right ahead.

That's not in the least bit what I said. Did you miss the part where I said my favorite candidate for president would be a Republican?

BojanglesPaladin: Blind adherance to a particular political party's positions is one of the most definitive indicators of weak reasoning powers.

Ditto.

BojanglesPaladin: So I will accept that you can only conceptualize my posts once you have mentaly ascribed a glowing red [R] to them, and you have announced that you want all of your commenbts to be viewed as coming with a [D] label. It's stupid, but I can't do anything about it.

Ditto.

Seriously, are you reading my posts?


BojanglesPaladin: But just for giggles, can you provide me an example of 'partisan' comments in.. say... THIS thread?


Well, sure-- the entire topic, for example, is a partisan defense of Obama by Mediamatters, a partisan source who's aim is to attack conservative misinformation.

An actual post:

3_Butt_Cheeks: Right. That's why Obama backs out of Townhall debates.

obama wants in the white house to have sexual relations with white women interns

Obdicut

... So no partisan posts from the Dancing Bojangles Paladin then? Weird. You seem so certain that I am simply a right wing shill.

boot20: "Fark-the-Fnord has pwninated canyoneer."

How? By not knowing the difference between discretionary spending and mandatory spending? By demonstrably and wildly overestimating the financial impact of the war? By accusing me of being a "republican" for pointing out facts?

You are a perfect example of the point I'm trying to make: American partisans confound style with substance and perceive manufactured controversy as meaningful. In short, guys like you don't know whether to sh*t or wind your watch. You're useful idiots, and your brand of "politics" has not and will not change anything.

BojanglesPaladin: ... So no partisan posts from the Dancing Bojangles Paladin then? Weird. You seem so certain that I am simply a right wing shill.

No, I called you partisan, not a right-wing shill. I think you have honestly come by your opinions and honestly present them. You're partisan. There is nothing negative about being partisan.

You seem to have trouble responding to what I actually said, today, rather than things you make up. That is unlike you.

Did you get this part, by the way:

That's not in the least bit what I said. Did you miss the part where I said my favorite candidate for president would be a Republican?

mccallcl: canyoneer: I think I'll just write myself in or abstain. It won't make any difference either way.

Why would anyone care about the opinions of a person who cannot be bothered to at least pretend to participate in the democratic process?

A write in is still a vote. Can't defend the abstain though.

DroxInxThexWind back to my basement to long for a life as a white boy on a computer in Tennessee

It is quite evident from your substandard linguistic skills, your use of profane language and your overall demeanor that you are not from the Caucuses.

canyoneer: your brand of "politics" has not and will not change anything.

Will yours?

BojanglesPaladin: Fark-the-Fnord

Short synopsis - Bevets was notorious for flame-bombing any thread that even came close to bordering on religion. He would swamp threads with virulent, rabid and extremely verbose posts quoting scripture, expounding his own unique exclusivist Christanity and generaly explaining to various and sundry why exactly, they would be going to hell for taking any view that deviated slightly from his particular orthodoxy.

It got so bad, and so cetain that he would firebomb, that anytime a religious thread was started, people would begin posting a 'Summon Bevets' image:


(Yes the man gets results on Google).

He has mostly retired from the field of battle, but he was quite a force of nature back in the day.

Oh, OK. So he is the exact reason why Christians today are viewed as the plague of society. He is the type of person that will stand on the side of the street and yell at all of the people that they are going to Hell if they do not follow his exact religion. This is the very reason why I have posted in several other threads that the worst thing that has ever happened to Christianity was religion. Now most people read that and mock me for saying that Christianity is a religion and yes it is, but the statement was meant to imply that the different "sects" of religion, Catholicism, Baptist, Lutheran, Methodist, they are all part of Christianity but they are tearing the whole "church" apart from the inside. People like Bevets show Christians as a hateful elitist group hiding the love of God and only showing the anger and punishment. Who would want to join that group when everybody is angry and I am here to say that is not what Christians are all about, God is good and you really can't hide that.

/Sorry to ramble on there
//I usually do not enter the religious threads

Friction8r: DroxInxThexWind back to my basement to long for a life as a white boy on a computer in Tennessee

It is quite evident from your substandard linguistic skills, your use of profane language and your overall demeanor that you are not from the Caucuses.

Neither are you

mccallcl: "Why would anyone care about the opinions of a person who cannot be bothered to at least pretend to participate in the democratic process?"

The "democratic process?" What "democratic process?" Do you actually imagine American elections to be a "democratic process?"

UnkleKrakker: Neither are you

Shhh--- people who don't understand what "Caucasian" means are hilarious.

Obdicut: UnkleKrakker: Neither are you

Shhh--- people who don't understand what "Caucasian" means are hilarious.

But Dude! His parents were TEACHERS!! So he must know!

Obdicut

God this is boring. You either don;t know what 'partisan' means or you strongly believe that it's applicability is selective. I said you were Partisan, because you insisted you were PROUD to be partisan. So wither when you say you are partisan, you don't mean any particular affiliation with a political party (as demonstrated by your insistance you would like to see a republican president), or you DO mean that, in which case you should not be labeling me as being partisan.

Your boring little game of hair-splitting, shifting goal posts, meaningless debates ABOUT a debate go nowhere.

And so here I am again where I always end up with you- exactly as I said I would - talking about no issue, discussing no topic, and doing nothing but wasting time.

How about this:

Let's go back to an actual topic. I believe you pulled your ripcord just before you were going to explain to me how:
a) A military must be maintained at considerable expense only when an enemy to be defended against can be identified.
b) Despite being part of the Federal Governments expenditures and revenues, and being sometimes merged into the general accounting fund, Social Security should not be calculated into Total Federal Finances when calculating the percentage of Total Federal Finances that is allocated to military spending.
c) Any comments regarding my original questions relating directly to the supposed 'scandal' of 'closed door' interviews that excluded the press.

Other than that I see no reason to engage you further.

canyoneer: boot20: "Fark-the-Fnord has pwninated canyoneer."

How? By not knowing the difference between discretionary spending and mandatory spending? By demonstrably and wildly overestimating the financial impact of the war? By accusing me of being a "republican" for pointing out facts?

You are a perfect example of the point I'm trying to make: American partisans confound style with substance and perceive manufactured controversy as meaningful. In short, guys like you don't know whether to sh*t or wind your watch. You're useful idiots, and your brand of "politics" has not and will not change anything.

Oh I get it, Canyoneer is Bevets political alt, cool.

Now back to what you are saying, you completely avoided the whole part where I caught you with speaking out of both sides of your mouth. And by the way, i am not partisan either, i hate when a politician will make a decision only because the is the way his or her party is leaning. It is not good for America.

DROxINxTHExWIND:
/back to my basement to long for a life as a white boy on a computer in Tennessee.

Hey! easy. I resemble that remark.

DROxINxTHExWIND

back to my basement to long for a life as a white boy on a computer in Tennessee

time to get back on my street corner and sell crack/commit crimes as a stupid monkey