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(Seattle Times)   Man suing internet company for making pop-ups that look like error messages   (seattletimes.nwsource.com) divider line 138
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2002-12-06 04:38:16 PM  
That would be "your" house, I haven't started speaking rap yet.
 
2002-12-06 04:38:51 PM  
I hope they win, while most people on FARK don't fall for that crap, there are a lot of people that do. Speaking of popups, I installed mozilla the other day and I was still getting a few popups from some sites >:(
 
2002-12-06 04:40:41 PM  
Element: The issue isn't that he 'accidentally' clicked on their ad. The issue is that they used fraudulent tactics to get him to click, by impersonating an operating system message.

The solution? Get a better operating system, dork
 
2002-12-06 04:41:21 PM  
Yeah! Smurf the Interweb!
 
2002-12-06 04:41:33 PM  
TO HELL With BONZI!!! and your little dog too...
 
2002-12-06 04:42:24 PM  
Rebrane

Point taken. In seeing the light, I must agree ... as an 'aware' computer user I take obvious things like that for granted. However, if this thing ends up getting pushed through, just think of the snowball effect it will have on other, not so subtle issues that we, aware, tend to take for granted.
 
2002-12-06 04:42:33 PM  
davegutt
awwww i'nt he soo cuuuuute!!!

[image from sheilasmith.net too old to be available]
 
2002-12-06 04:42:35 PM  
Necrosis:
Go to "Edit - Preferences - Advanced - Scripts & Plugins" and uncheck "Open unrequested windows". That will stop most of the pop-ups.
 
2002-12-06 04:45:41 PM  
So difficult to choose sides... Hate frivolous lawsuits and opportunistic lawyers, despise popups...

Sigh...
 
2002-12-06 04:46:19 PM  
NubianzWithAttitude,

Only 'dork's know how to get a better operating system. This is the problem here.

Do you hnestly think if my grandmother can't tell the difference between a real warning and a pop up that she's going to go out and buy and install a new OS? Gimme a break.
 
2002-12-06 04:48:30 PM  
boss, i was, ummmm, working, uhh, online, uhhh doing research! yeah, research. then my computer suddenly started opening up all of these windows. i'm pissed. i think we should sue, becuase i DEFINITELY was working...on the internet.
 
2002-12-06 04:49:29 PM  
I so want in on this class action shiat
 
2002-12-06 04:49:56 PM  
What about if seeing the error message on my screen caused me to spill hot coffee all overmyself?
 
2002-12-06 04:50:43 PM  
Do you hnestly think if my grandmother can't tell the difference between a real warning and a pop up that she's going to go out and buy and install a new OS? Gimme a break.

Hell, if that stoned girl on the apple commercials can do it, a seventy year old woman can too
 
2002-12-06 04:51:08 PM  
Close this window to ruin your credit

Click "ok" to re-format your hard drive
 
2002-12-06 04:51:28 PM  

12-06-02 04:36:36 PM Ant
if you're dumb enough to not notice the extra window around the error "window", you deserve to get your time wasted.. what ever happened to alt-f4?

You have obviously never had to provide tech support to a middle aged secretary who barely knows how to turn her computer on. These things suck!

It's pretty obvious to regular computer users that these are just pop-ups, but for the great unwashed masses, these are no different from any other error message that they click OK on without reading.


Yeah, no shieat. And the emails that have all the imbedded HTML links to junkware too. I have to make it simple for them. Ask them 'If someone ran up to you in the street and handed you something to eat, and you didn't know them or know what it was, WOULD YOU EAT IT!?'
 
2002-12-06 04:52:00 PM  
Hell, if that stoned girl on the apple commercials can do it, a seventy year old woman can too

Ok, you come over and teach my folks how to install software ... and bring a computer too since they don't have one. :-)
 
2002-12-06 04:52:21 PM  
 
2002-12-06 04:53:16 PM  
They'll only make more annoying ones.
 
2002-12-06 04:54:55 PM  
Yuck! So that's why there are blisters on my damned screen.
 
Ant
2002-12-06 04:55:06 PM  
Ask them 'If someone ran up to you in the street and handed you something to eat, and you didn't know them or know what it was, WOULD YOU EAT IT!?'

Hey, that's a good analogy. Mind if I use it? (I'll give you full credit, of course)
 
Ant
2002-12-06 04:56:26 PM  
This would be a good Photoshop theme: "Misleading Pop-up ads"
 
2002-12-06 04:56:49 PM  
I have to agree that anyone who clicked on these ad and was honestly fooled by them was being idiotic. Not only is there an extra window around it, but the font is often different, not to mention the color scheme. However, as a PC tech I've had many many many cases of people just falling for it like droves. I just don't get it...I figure once you've seen them a few times you should be able to recogize them for what they are, but nooooo. If this gets these idiotic ads off my PC, good riddance.
 
2002-12-06 04:58:17 PM  
The ones that really annoy me are the ones that take up the entire screen. I think they can only be done on IE. People should be drug out in the street and shot for putting those on their pages.
 
2002-12-06 04:58:34 PM  
I think this would be a good photoshop. I tried to submit it one day as a photoshop theme but couldn't find one of these banners. Hmm...maybe I should go to bonzi.com
 
2002-12-06 04:59:15 PM  
You know history really does repeat itself. All this same legal wrangling happened 240 yrs. ago when pop-up books came out. Nevermind, I got nuthin...
 
2002-12-06 04:59:43 PM  
[image from mediaservice.photoisland.com too old to be available]

Had to post this fake banner ad from my website. :-)
 
2002-12-06 05:00:30 PM  
If my computer wasn't broadcasting my IP address to the entire world, I wouldn't be on the internet. So what's the solution, just unplug the ethernet cable behind my PC? I think not.
 
2002-12-06 05:00:32 PM  
Up next.....
1. Gator
2. Xupiter
3. X10


I got Adaware and I was like Weeeeeeeee!
 
2002-12-06 05:01:45 PM  
Yes! The masses demand a photoshop contest of banners!
 
2002-12-06 05:01:47 PM  
I had a friend do a javascript popup on his site that looked like a virus alert. I saw through it right away, but another friend was nearly ready to take apart his computer he was so nervous. When he found it was a joke, they really didn't get along too well after that. It's really sad how serious some people take messages that pop up in front of them.
 
2002-12-06 05:03:02 PM  
Bonzi must die. That is all.
 
2002-12-06 05:03:56 PM  
My computer isn't broadcasting an IP address to the entire world.. The NAT my computer goes through is :)
 
2002-12-06 05:04:56 PM  
I view these ads as funny; I use a mac and there is nothing stranger than seeing these Windows "warnings" popping up. Yeah, that really fooled me... I am miffed that the creators of this fine spam couldn't have taken the extra time to do a browser/platform sniff and save me some distress (or humor, I suppose); on the other hand, maybe I should take it as a compliment that they are playing this game with PC users and as a result have inadvertantly passed judgement on them as uninformed hicks.
 
2002-12-06 05:05:27 PM  

12-06-02 04:55:06 PM Ant
Hey, that's a good analogy. Mind if I use it? (I'll give you full credit, of course)


Sure!
It's an open source quote. No royalty or usage fee required.
 
2002-12-06 05:05:31 PM  
Ant
This would be a good Photoshop theme: "Misleading Pop-up ads"

I like the fake ads lamerkatz.com runs
 
2002-12-06 05:06:32 PM  
[image from public.iastate.edu too old to be available]
 
2002-12-06 05:06:54 PM  
betcha that he will buy a mac with his settlement !@
 
2002-12-06 05:07:21 PM  
Of course I use a Mac, so It’s obviously a pop-up to me. =oD
 
2002-12-06 05:07:42 PM  
All I know is that the rapidly flashing ads are giving me seizures. It's starting to piss me off.
 
2002-12-06 05:08:38 PM  
PSA: Ctrl-W is your friend.

That is all.
 
2002-12-06 05:09:07 PM  
[image from images.bonzi.com too old to be available]
man, this needs to be a new cliche!

eh.. i'll do it myself.

FARK 1.0
(C) 2000 Drew Curtis

F:>REGCLC32.EXE F:\FARKISTAN\BONZI.JPG
(1) items successfully added to cliche registry
(1) items copied to F:\CLICHE\

F:>CD CLICHE
F:\CLICHE>DIR
(19) items in current directory
ALLBASE.CLC
ASSHAT.CLC
BONZI.CLC
CHRIS_LO.CLC
DELLDUDE.CLC
DOMOKUN.CLC
DR_PEPP.CLC
ELLEN_F.CLC
F_SURNDR.CLC
HIL_ENSU.CLC
ICYHOT.CLC
JEEBUS.CLC
KITTEN.CLC
MEMENTO.CLC
MUSTARD.CLC
TENT_RPE.CLC
SOVT_RUS.CLC
SQRLNUTS.CLC
WHEATON.CLC
 
2002-12-06 05:11:35 PM  
I hate spyware. The worst one I got was some bullsheet called "NewDotNet" that slowed everything to a crawl and would not go away, even with Lavasoft Ad-Aware. I finally found a website with instructions to get rid of it, but it took 3 hours from my life. Gator, Bonzi, CometCursor, all of those dickwads should be in jail getting pumped up the arse.
 
2002-12-06 05:11:41 PM  
Ask them 'If someone ran up to you in the street and handed you something to eat, and you didn't know them or know what it was, WOULD YOU EAT IT!?'

I agree, good quote.

A couple of years ago, the lead IT guy where I worked expressed it as, "If you got an unexpected package in the mail with no identifying information on it, would you open it?" A couple of days later, I got a CD in the mail from Intel's certification program -- of course, there were no identifying marks on the CD mailer, and this was an unexpected update. I wondered what would happen as I pulled the tab to open it.
 
2002-12-06 05:19:41 PM  
7endless7, try the browser Omniweb for OS X. It's slower than IE but it's oh so beautiful. Read their mission statement and job application requirements. They're fighting the good fight.

http://www.omnigroup.com/products/omniweb/
 
2002-12-06 05:20:36 PM  
To those stupid enough to think those "error" or "security messages" are real: Ah ha!

/Nelson
 
2002-12-06 05:23:11 PM  
I hate to sound like a typical Microsoft basher, but a big part of the reason these things fool people is because Windows pops up so damn many windows just like it, and they all ask you to click "ok".

Here's an idea - when an error occurs, there's nothing I can do about it. Not a damn thing. I don't need to click "ok", because it's not ok, and it's not like you need my approval to crash. Just close the offending program, and tell me why in an error log that I can access from a tab on the task bar.
 
2002-12-06 05:23:40 PM  
I for one enjoy pop -up ads.
I need the attention.
They want me.
They are love.
Hence my love for them.
 
2002-12-06 05:23:54 PM  
He is now my new hero
LET'S KILL THE BASTARDs!
 
2002-12-06 05:25:06 PM  
does anybody else find it ironic that the website reporting this had a popup ad?
 
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