Non-story.
He had a pre-9/11 mindset.

How about Rumsfeld's missing trillions?

Sounds like diplomacy from Civ4...where I'd be playing like the Taliban. Be chummy, make deals, then BETRAY AND A ATTACK! Oh silly AI, being tricked by my diplomacy.

In Civ3 I could attack, seize several cities, barter a peace to mend my wounds, and then invade again several turns later. Oh the good old days.

spamdog: How about Rumsfeld's missing trillions?



They aren't "missing"...just hidden.

even today we're paying Pakistan to harbor them.

If only the blasts were really in the past.

Hobodeluxe: even today we're paying Pakistan to harbor them.

There's a pearl in there somewhere.

Back when they used to run those commercials about how buying drugs sponsored terrorists, I would tell everyone I know about how the Bush administration's anti-drug efforts involved giving millions *directly to* the terrorists.

We already knew that in the "with us or against us" world our own leader is dead set against us. More proof is hardly necessary.

Mordant: We already knew that in the "with us or against us" world our own leader is dead set against us. More proof is hardly necessary.

Ultimately, it is really the Democrat Party's fault Bush gave the Taliban this money.

I read about 1/2 of the book 'The Taliban' around 2004. It was published in 2000 and was very damning about how the US and american corporations kept playing with the Taliban. Apparently the US would have recognized their regime instantly if the Taliban would have allowed a pipeline right down the center of the country. They preferred (I think) a Brazilian, and the whole thing went to pot.

I read in June of 2001 in the India Times that there was a plan to launch an offensive in Afghanistan before 'the first snows of winter' - roughly early October.

The more you read into it, the more you wonder ...

Skleenar: Ultimately, it is really the Democrat Party's fault Bush gave the Taliban this money.

Your attempts to troll are not getting noticed. Please try harder.

Skleenar: Non-story.
He had a pre-9/11 mindset.


That's the stupidest term I've heard yet. "Pre-9/11 mindset"? What the freak is that supposed to mean when "a major event" was planned well long before 2001.

The U.S. was in the middle east bombing for a long time before 9/11 happened. So, "pre-9/11 mindset" is just for ignorant Americans (excluding presidents).

We were spending $4 billion a year preventing terrorist attacks on us before 9/11, so "Pre-9/11 mindset" doesn't make any sense whatsoever.

Wayfarer's Freedom: Skleenar: Non-story.
He had a pre-9/11 mindset.


That's the stupidest term I've heard yet. "Pre-9/11 mindset"? What the freak is that supposed to mean when "a major event" was planned well long before 2001.

The U.S. was in the middle east bombing for a long time before 9/11 happened. So, "pre-9/11 mindset" is just for ignorant Americans (excluding presidents).

We were spending $4 billion a year preventing terrorist attacks on us before 9/11, so "Pre-9/11 mindset" doesn't make any sense whatsoever.

Noun

Singular
joke


Plural
jokes

joke (plural jokes)

1. an amusing story
2. something said or done for amusement

It was a joke!

Wayfarer's Freedom: Skleenar: Non-story.
He had a pre-9/11 mindset.


That's the stupidest term I've heard yet. "Pre-9/11 mindset"? What the freak is that supposed to mean when "a major event" was planned well long before 2001.

The U.S. was in the middle east bombing for a long time before 9/11 happened. So, "pre-9/11 mindset" is just for ignorant Americans (excluding presidents).

We were spending $4 billion a year preventing terrorist attacks on us before 9/11, so "Pre-9/11 mindset" doesn't make any sense whatsoever.

I think your sarcasm detector may be broken.

CravenMorehead: Your attempts to troll are not getting noticed. Please try harder.

It was more of a paraphrase.

2008-07-14 01:33:34 PM

Mavis Leno led efforts to have the US govt oppose the Taliban. Hillary Clinton was the first congressperson to help. The Bush administration, at the time, didn't care about anything but tax cuts.

Never forget

attackingpencil: It was a joke!

THERE IS NOTHING FUNNY ABOUT BARACK OBAMA.

Skleenar: Non-story.
He had a pre-9/11 mindset.

moothemagiccow: what about his name?

THERE IS NOTHING FUNNY ABOUT

The figures were much higher than $43 million...

"The United States has been the single largest donor of humanitarian aid for Afghans for the past several years. In 2000, the United States contributed a total of $113 million in humanitarian aid to Afghans, both inside Afghanistan and in refugee camps in neighboring countries. In 2001, the aid level has already exceeded $184, accounting for some 300,000 tons of American food sent to Afghanistan this year." US State Deparment October 15,2001

Before we get spin doctors in, here are 4 different sources right/center/left

Link (WorldNet Daily)


Link (Cato)

From the center...
Link (Independent Online)

From the Left ...
Link (Bowling for Columbine)

rewards that "rogue regime" for declaring that opium growing is against the will of God

Did you really have to say it like that? I wonder how many growers got killed because of that.

So... we got a refund right?

It was for Scholarships, okay?

log_jammin: We provide our relief to the people of Afghanistan, not to Afghanistan's ruling factions. Our aid bypasses the Taliban, who have done little to alleviate the suffering of the Afghan people, and indeed have done much to exacerbate it. "

Get out of here with your "facts" and "information". The Two Minutes Hate is in full effect and we have Bush-bashing to accomplish here.

/Someone at Kos being dishonest?
//Unpossible!

thamike: How did this become about Obama?


Because he's a Muslim.

Skleenar: CravenMorehead: Your attempts to troll are not getting noticed. Please try harder.

It was more of a paraphrase.

2008-07-14 01:33:34 PM

My bad, it's late and I'm tired.

I researched this a few years ago, and IIRC the aid was actually given to an international relief organization, not the Taliban. The effect was much the same, and Bush is still a traitor who kills our troops for kicks.

log_jammin: not i.

Right.?

thamike: Actually, it is, you f*cking moron.

uh moron? uh no? you are ll wrong. moron? you are wrong.

shouldnt you be watching robot chicken?

END OF COMMUNICATION.;

log_jammin: that was just an "in" joke. you had to be there.

It's the Little Inside Joke That Could.

thamike: sarcastrophe: log_jammin: not i.

Right.?

Actually, it is, you farking moron.

WTF is a moron? It's moran you idiot.

outback_rebel: WTF is a moron? It's moran you idiot.

it really is all charlie wilsons fault.

log_jammin: " We distribute our assistance in Afghanistan through international agencies of the United Nations and non-governmental organizations, " Powell said. " We provide our relief to the people of Afghanistan, not to Afghanistan's ruling factions. Our aid bypasses the Taliban, who have done little to alleviate the suffering of the Afghan people, and indeed have done much to exacerbate it. " (new window)

lol.. i wonder how many people will read this thread... scroll across your post, feel time slowing down for them, have their vision momentarily disoriented, and then say "meh" and put a mental block over it as they write a truther diatribe against the BFEE/Taliban alliance.

thamike: Shaggy-- Somehow, I don't think you and Log's messages are the same. Maybe that's just me.

He pointed out that the cited story in the Kos article was discredited as false as far back as 2001. He was completely ignored. So, I made a joke about us needing some good Bush bashing around here. Hate the President for whatever reason you want but at least use honest attacks, not smears.

Satyagraha: The figures were much higher than $43 million...

"The United States has been the single largest donor of humanitarian aid for Afghans for the past several years. In 2000, the United States contributed a total of $113 million in humanitarian aid to Afghans, both inside Afghanistan and in refugee camps in neighboring countries. In 2001, the aid level has already exceeded $184, accounting for some 300,000 tons of American food sent to Afghanistan this year." US State Deparment October 15,2001

Before we get spin doctors in, here are 4 different sources right/center/left

Link (WorldNet Daily)


Link (Cato)

From the center...
Link (Independent Online)

From the Left ...
Link (Bowling for Columbine)

Case in point. This guy doesnt appear to even recognize the date of the source he is quoting from. I'll write it again in big letters just to make sure he can understand.

US State Deparment October 15,2001



Hmmm.. October 15, 2001.. I think there was something going on then.... That might have involved giving aid to lots of Afghans. hmm what was that now?

thamike: You have an In Joke with that f*cking guy? My lord, your Jedi powers are stronger than I can possibly imagine. My hat's off to you. Sh*t, I'm taking a shot of bourbon, just for you. Hell, I'm gonna need a cigarette after this.

*giggle* it feels so good to be loved