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(Chud)   Wait... could the movie version of Watchmen actually be... good?   (chud.com) divider line 70
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2008-07-14 06:26:47 PM  
"Good" is relative, so the answer is no. No matter how awesome your script adaptation, no matter how awesome your casting, no matter how awesome your special effects, when you make a movie out of content familiar to mouth-breathers, the mouth-breathers are always going to find something to complain about.
 
2008-07-14 07:08:47 PM  
Boiling it down:

You're going to get your first glimpse of what Snyder has done this Friday, when the Watchmen trailer premieres in front of The Dark Knight.

Okay I'm psyched.

Even if they leave out the Pirate comic book substory.
 
2008-07-14 07:38:24 PM  
DarthBrooks: Okay I'm psyched.

Absolutely. I'm throwing caution to the wind and allowing myself to be optimistic about this movie.
 
CPB
2008-07-14 08:01:15 PM  
We can only hope, subby.
 
2008-07-14 09:40:48 PM  
i hope
but i doubt.

DarthBrooks: Even if they leave out the Pirate comic book substory.

hat i understand, they actually found a way to deal with that.
they're releasing it in cartoon form before the movie comes out
 
2008-07-14 10:26:13 PM  
there were magazines, comics and newspapers that had been shredded into confetti being thrown by angry inmates - all of it was period, coming from 1985 or earlier. And there were no superhero comics, since that genre doesn't exist in the Watchmen universe. There were a bunch of copies of Rom: Spaceknight, though. These are details that you will never see on a movie screen.

THIS is why I love certain movies. It's the little things that count.
(just ask my wife! BA-DA-DUHN!)

Pixar is great for this. Background things most would miss, but in "time" with the movie.
Maybe that's why I like Lost so much. I like seeing things in the backgrounds as well they make things just that much better.
 
2008-07-15 12:29:44 AM  
I'll wait for legit reviews, comic book nerds have notoriously bad taste in everything.
 
2008-07-15 12:33:04 AM  
DarthBrooks: Boiling it down:

You're going to get your first glimpse of what Snyder has done this Friday, when the Watchmen trailer premieres in front of The Dark Knight.


I'm going to pencil in "Nerdgasm" for Friday.

On a related note, I'm planning a Rorschach costume for Halloween but I have no idea how to handle the mask. Any ideas?
 
2008-07-15 12:33:43 AM  
SilentStrider: hat i understand, they actually found a way to deal with that.
they're releasing it in cartoon form before the movie comes out


Wait, I thought they were doing a greenscreen DVD feature with Gerard Butler as the lead sailor. Is that not happening?
 
2008-07-15 12:34:50 AM  
Mentat: On a related note, I'm planning a Rorschach costume for Halloween but I have no idea how to handle the mask. Any ideas?

Ziplock bag taped to a pillowcase. Fill the Ziplock with dark vinegar and light oil.
 
2008-07-15 12:35:09 AM  
Mentat: On a related note, I'm planning a Rorschach costume for Halloween but I have no idea how to handle the mask. Any ideas?

Couldn't you just put together a plastic mask with water and oil blobs inside and moving around? Surely this can't be prohibitively difficult.
 
2008-07-15 12:36:31 AM  
SilentStrider: i hope
but i doubt.

DarthBrooks: Even if they leave out the Pirate comic book substory.

hat i understand, they actually found a way to deal with that.
they're releasing it in cartoon form before the movie comes out


It's been confirmed for the DVD release, with Gerard Butler providing the voice acting for the protagonist.
 
2008-07-15 12:37:05 AM  
I wasn't planning for it to actually move because there's no way to keep the shapes symmetrical. That would be fun to try though.
 
2008-07-15 12:41:21 AM  
Mentat:On a related note, I'm planning a Rorschach costume for Halloween but I have no idea how to handle the mask. Any ideas?

Try this guy:

Link (new window)

I've bought masks from him so I can vouch for his quality.
 
2008-07-15 12:54:48 AM  
Kaybeck: I've bought masks from him so I can vouch for his quality.

Do you happen to know if he sells in person? He's not too far from where I live and I wouldn't mind seeing the masks in person.
 
2008-07-15 12:59:08 AM  
It had better be good. If not, I'm shaving my head, painting myself blue, stripping down to the nudeness and going on a rampage.

A big, blue, naked rampage.
 
2008-07-15 01:01:44 AM  
Mentat:On a related note, I'm planning a Rorschach costume for Halloween but I have no idea how to handle the mask. Any ideas?

Weren't the instructions in the comic book?
 
2008-07-15 01:05:39 AM  
Mother's Bloody Sperm: I'll wait for legit reviews, comic book nerds have notoriously bad taste in everything.

Please go and sign up on the CHUD forum and tell Faraci this idea you have about this story...

He isn't a "comic nerd" by any means...
 
2008-07-15 01:17:16 AM  
No
 
2008-07-15 01:22:38 AM  
Mentat:

On a related note, I'm planning a Rorschach costume for Halloween but I have no idea how to handle the mask. Any ideas?


I saw a guy at San Diego CC. He used "cheese cloth" so he could see through it easier.
 
2008-07-15 01:28:34 AM  
steveo: "Good" is relative, so the answer is no. No matter how awesome your script adaptation, no matter how awesome your casting, no matter how awesome your special effects, when you make a movie out of Adam Moore's work, it will suck. content familiar to mouth-breathers, the mouth-breathers are always going to find something to complain about.

FTFY.
 
2008-07-15 01:40:15 AM  
If they leave out the Pirates subplot, it'll mean that they decided it was ok to weaken one of the central themes of the story. That decision doesn't bode well for the rest of it. I think they're going to give us lots of actions scenes dramatized that we only alluded to in the book.
 
2008-07-15 01:41:13 AM  
Adam Moore is no Alan Moore, thats for sure.
 
2008-07-15 01:41:14 AM  
CHUD makes my eyes bleed.

neon green on black = fail
 
2008-07-15 01:46:02 AM  
Chastain86: SilentStrider: hat i understand, they actually found a way to deal with that.
they're releasing it in cartoon form before the movie comes out

Wait, I thought they were doing a greenscreen DVD feature with Gerard Butler as the lead sailor. Is that not happening?


He is the voice of the Black Freighter captain in some DVD coming out 5 days after the movie premieres in theatres.

/I don't know about any of this comic book stuff...I just know what Gerard Butler does.
//Mmm-mm.
 
2008-07-15 01:58:00 AM  
i just finished this for the first time about a week or 2 ago. ive never read a graphic novel before. it was the most amazing experience ever. they WILL f*ck this up, i guarantee it.
 
2008-07-15 02:03:41 AM  
FTFA: That ending has been part of what keeps fans awake at night in terror (okay, spoilerphobes should sit out this paragraph as well). Would a major motion picture go through with an ending where millions of New Yorkers are killed? And even if they did, would they go with the ending that Moore wrote, where the 'bad guy' gets away with it? 'I've read every draft,' says Snyder. 'In every draft there's been... I don't know if they're happy endings, but they're more traditional endings. The bad guy gets it. [But I think] you have to keep him alive - and not in a sequel way. Look at the end of Superman Returns, Lex Luthor is on an island. I would have liked him to die!'

Your all farking sheep for believing this will be anything more than another assrape of another great piece of literature. Your farking sheep!

/waiting for torrent errr video, then seeing it on somebody elses dime.
//Did you biatches learn nothing from League?
 
2008-07-15 02:27:23 AM  
orclover: FTFA: That ending has been part of what keeps fans awake at night in terror (okay, spoilerphobes should sit out this paragraph as well). Would a major motion picture go through with an ending where millions of New Yorkers are killed? And even if they did, would they go with the ending that Moore wrote, where the 'bad guy' gets away with it? 'I've read every draft,' says Snyder. 'In every draft there's been... I don't know if they're happy endings, but they're more traditional endings. The bad guy gets it. [But I think] you have to keep him alive - and not in a sequel way. Look at the end of Superman Returns, Lex Luthor is on an island. I would have liked him to die!'

Ouch...

Well, will they use lube, or are we in for a F4 RotSS experience? That is my concerns right now...
 
2008-07-15 03:02:27 AM  
my prediction is hooded justice will come out of hiding, rape the comedian, and the comedian will jump out the window himself because of the shame. then dr manhattan will grow a gigantic superschlong and bang jupiter and it will end with jupiter biatching at him about never cleaning up around the galaxy.

/spoilers?
 
2008-07-15 03:05:43 AM  
I just don't see how it is possible to translate it onto the big screen. What makes Watchmen so good are the little details and interplay between text and pictures. It just can't work in any other medium. They can do some of the story - but it can only be a bare-bones summary of the thing, which is pointless. Besides, the book is damn near perfect. Why make a movie out of it? Well, for money, obviously; but that doesn't explain why geeks would be excited about it. It's like owning a Rembrandt and then paying good money to buy a 12 year-old's copy of it on a Lite Brite.
 
2008-07-15 03:06:52 AM  
I made that same post in another medium and closed my tags.
 
2008-07-15 03:25:19 AM  
Cornwell: orclover: FTFA: That ending has been part of what keeps fans awake at night in terror (okay, spoilerphobes should sit out this paragraph as well). Would a major motion picture go through with an ending where millions of New Yorkers are killed? And even if they did, would they go with the ending that Moore wrote, where the 'bad guy' gets away with it? 'I've read every draft,' says Snyder. 'In every draft there's been... I don't know if they're happy endings, but they're more traditional endings. The bad guy gets it. [But I think] you have to keep him alive - and not in a sequel way. Look at the end of Superman Returns, Lex Luthor is on an island. I would have liked him to die!'

Ouch...

Well, will they use lube, or are we in for a F4 RotSS experience? That is my concerns right now...


I don't get the ouch. It sounds like he's saying that the bad guy gets away at the end, which is how it goes in the comic.
 
2008-07-15 03:39:06 AM  
I'm not familiar with Watchmen but... ...Carla Gugino! I'll be there.

i63.photobucket.com
 
2008-07-15 04:43:29 AM  
ManosHandsOfFate: I don't get the ouch. It sounds like he's saying that the bad guy gets away at the end, which is how it goes in the comic.

Read this part again: I don't know if they're happy endings, but they're more traditional endings. The bad guy gets it.
 
2008-07-15 04:48:56 AM  
Danho: A big, blue, naked rampage.

Sounds familiar...

www.delawareonline.com
 
2008-07-15 05:25:18 AM  
No movie adaptation of a story with an ending that stupid can be good.
 
2008-07-15 06:07:00 AM  
ManosHandsOfFate: Cornwell: orclover: FTFA: That ending has been part of what keeps fans awake at night in terror (okay, spoilerphobes should sit out this paragraph as well). Would a major motion picture go through with an ending where millions of New Yorkers are killed? And even if they did, would they go with the ending that Moore wrote, where the 'bad guy' gets away with it? 'I've read every draft,' says Snyder. 'In every draft there's been... I don't know if they're happy endings, but they're more traditional endings. The bad guy gets it. [But I think] you have to keep him alive - and not in a sequel way. Look at the end of Superman Returns, Lex Luthor is on an island. I would have liked him to die!'

Ouch...

Well, will they use lube, or are we in for a F4 RotSS experience? That is my concerns right now...

I don't get the ouch. It sounds like he's saying that the bad guy gets away at the end, which is how it goes in the comic.


It was more the part involving "more traditional endings" that caused the ouch. I expect from the context that he's speaking of a more traditional Hollywood sort of ending, and not more traditional Alan Moore ending, which makes me hope for lubrication for the rape this movie quite possibly could become.

Our heroes stopping the event, saving New York, and defeating the bad guy sort of ending, no complete disintegration of characters, and so on.
 
2008-07-15 07:16:36 AM  
Who's going to watch the watchmen?

/Devin still sucks.
 
2008-07-15 08:30:41 AM  
Looking forward to this more than I was Iron Man or Dark Knight...hoping it delivers.

Please, please, please deliver.
 
2008-07-15 09:32:00 AM  
Malinki: No movie adaptation of a story with an ending that stupid can be good.

Feeding the troll.
 
2008-07-15 09:35:39 AM  
butcher71: Weren't the instructions in the comic book?

Yeah, but I wasn't abused by my mother, so I can't really go that route.
 
2008-07-15 09:55:59 AM  
i170.photobucket.com

Hurm.

/I don't *care* if it sucks! I'm so friggin' excited about this!!
//Yes, I'm lame!
 
2008-07-15 10:07:31 AM  
Cornwell: It was more the part involving "more traditional endings" that caused the ouch.

But in the following paragraph:
"Sure, Snyder says, there was some resistance from the studio (resistance obviously tempered by 300's huge success), but he was able to talk them into seeing it his way. 'When we got down to actually talking about what was their issue [with the ending] we all came down to the fact that you don't gain anything by changing that part of it. It's a movie you should leave going 'Let's talk about this.' You should debate it, hopefully. Not 'Oh this was awesome, let's go get dinner.''"

So does that mean that the first round of drafts had the traditional ending and Snyder argued the suit-clad knuckleheads into retaining the original ending?

All in all, when the filmmaker is described as having a "worshipping attitude" toward Watchmen, I'm inclined to be hopeful. Plus, I'm liking the mental image of Danny Woodburn calmly saying "When he croaks, this place blows... and you die by inches."
 
2008-07-15 10:10:49 AM  
Oh, and...

the Watchmen trailer premieres in front of The Dark Knight

GLEE!
 
2008-07-15 10:20:20 AM  
Theres a making of Video somewheres out there, and the main street looks pretty good, I am impressed. The news stand looks like a carbon copy of the one in the book.

I wonder who they are going to get to play the lesbians haha
 
2008-07-15 10:30:11 AM  
Picked up The Watchmen this weekend, and I'm enjoying the hell out of it. That's going to make for one weird ass movie, though.
 
2008-07-15 10:50:47 AM  
mooseyfate: Picked up The Watchmen this weekend, and I'm enjoying the hell out of it. That's going to make for one weird ass movie, though.

Just wait until you finish it. The last couple of chapters are some of the best and most bizarre things ever written.
 
2008-07-15 11:24:22 AM  
I finished reading this a while back, and it was amazing. I can see how folks say Heroes is a ripoff of the story. I'm curious as to how they're going to make Dr. Manhattan look realistic and how they're going to show Mars during Dr. Manhattan & Silk Spectre's discussion.
 
2008-07-15 11:28:15 AM  
Mentat: I wasn't planning for it to actually move because there's no way to keep the shapes symmetrical. That would be fun to try though.

I would say a white Nylon stocking and just "Sharpie" the shapes. then you can see throught the mask and yet it would still be relatively opaque.

Wow I might steal your Idea if you are not on the West coast.
 
2008-07-15 12:16:09 PM  
www.weeklyreader.com

Alec, Alec, regarding that so called "silent" propulsion system in "The Hunt For Red October", I printed out a list of technical errors which I think you'd enjoy discussing.
 
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