No way this gets green lit. Excellent article though.

ok, but does he have a plan for what to do about withdrawal from Iraq ? I didn't think so.

Vote Republican in 2008 and support a plan.

Hobodeluxe [TotalFark] Quote 2008-07-14 04:57:09 PM
No way this gets green lit. Excellent article though.

Denied! (luckily for us)

This should be fun. In before 1k+ posts.

I like Obama. I don't like his idea for socialized healthcare. NOTHING should be 'socialized' in this country.

Stoj: Why not?

Because there would never be a stop in violence against our troops. Muslims, as I understand it, don't like westerners. Therefore there'd be problems on a regular basis. It's all or nothing.

Stoj: Why not?

Because Iraqis don't want us there. The South Koreans appreciated our presence to keep the bat-shiat crazy North Koreans on their side of the DMZ.

My plan:

"Hey, guys? I'm just going down to the coast to pick up something I left on a ship. Be right back, honest."

Uh, I'm pretty sure he is a atheist anarchist socialist guys

Given the choice between another 8 years of Bush-like tactics, or at least 4 of a fundamental change in policy, possibly for the better, I'll take my chances with Obama.

I just hope some a-hole Klansman doesn't try to bump him off.

Stoj: Curious about this:

Unlike Senator McCain, I would make it absolutely clear that we seek no presence in Iraq similar to our permanent bases in South Korea

Why not?

Funny thing, when we keep our troops stationed in the middle east, let's say Saudi Arabia just for shiats and giggles, those silly Arabs kooks like to up and fly jumbo jets into our buildings. Crazy as the thought may be, perhaps forcibly staying in a country we invaded to "liberate" after they ask us to leave might just be looked upon as imperial aggression into their lands.

I probably made that all up though. God knows researching the conflicts in that part of the world was too much work for you to do so why would anyone else want to, am I right?

FlashHarry: Lionel Mandrake: This is just the sort of defeatism one would expect from a commie Muslim terrorist sympathizer.


i heard he was a zionist radical christian jew!

FTFY

Bill Frist: Uh, I'm pretty sure he is a atheist anarchist socialist guys

Nah... more like an elitist vegitarian trekkie... still a vast improvement.

filth: But I don't think there's significant factual support for any of the propositions set forth by the senator as justifications for the strategy.

I think the fact that the democratically elected leadership of the country wants us to leave is pretty well established... and more than enough reason for us to leave.

Stoj: Why not?

Probably because the Iraqis don't want us there. South Korea in the late 50s and Iraq today are not the same thing. And, they won't be the same thing over the next 10 years, despite what John McCain may believe.

coma: Crazy as the thought may be, perhaps forcibly staying in a country we invaded to "liberate" after they ask us to leave might just be looked upon as imperial aggression into their lands.

THIS!!!!!

Boritom [TotalFark] Quote 2008-07-14 05:50:27 PM
Bill Frist: Uh, I'm pretty sure he is a atheist anarchist socialist guys

Nah... more like an elitist vegitarian trekkie... still a vast improvement.


Or a Scottish Wiccan Somnambulist

filth: The other unwritten assumption of his plan is that the Iraq occupation has essentially succeeded.

Really?

Where is that implied?

You must be fantastic at reading between the lines.

Bill Frist: Or a Scottish Wiccan Somnambulist

Suddenly, I see Sean Connery and Rob Zombie in a remake of The Cabinet of Dr. Caligari in my mind's eye...

Gotta stop using them David Lynch^TM Mind's-Eye drops.

This thread is surprisingly civilized.

I think that Senator Obama's strategy is very good, and I support it. I just wish he hadn't laid it out in the NY Times.

GAT_00: I think that Senator Obama's strategy is very good, and I support it. I just wish he hadn't laid it out in the NY Times.

Transparency is apparently a fundamental strategic tool in Obama's thinking. Instead of trying to surprise the world, the methodology of the feeble-minded drama queens in office now, Obama seems to want people to understand what he's doing.

bulldg4life:
Probably because the Iraqis don't want us there. South Korea in the late 50s and Iraq today are not the same thing. And, they won't be the same thing over the next 10 years.

well put, they do indeed want us the f*ck outta there

Bill Frist: Hobodeluxe [TotalFark] Quote 2008-07-14 04:57:09 PM
No way this gets green lit. Excellent article though.

Denied! (luckily for us)

reverse psychology :P

benlonghair: This should be fun. In before 1k+ posts.

I like Obama. I don't like his idea for socialized healthcare. NOTHING should be 'socialized' in this country.

Yeah. I sure do hate that socialized army. And those socialized fire and police services. They would be much better if they were run on a for profit basis.

Lionel Mandrake: TheOther: GAT_00: I think that Senator Obama's strategy is very good, and I support it. I just wish he hadn't laid it out in the NY Times.

Transparency is apparently a fundamental strategic tool in Obama's thinking. Instead of trying to surprise the world, the methodology of the feeble-minded drama queens in office now, Obama seems to want people to understand what he's doing.

Sneaky bastard...what's that all about?

I find myself confused by this statement also. I don't think he shouldn't be saying anything, I just don't like the fact that he felt like the NYT was the best place to lay it out.

Mordant: ok, but does he have a plan for what to do about withdrawal from Iraq ? I didn't think so.

Vote Republican in 2008 and support a plan.

The Republicans don't have a plan. They never have. That's why we're still there.

DamnYankees: MPAVictoria: benlonghair: This should be fun. In before 1k+ posts.

I like Obama. I don't like his idea for socialized healthcare. NOTHING should be 'socialized' in this country.

Yeah. I sure do hate that socialized army. And those socialized fire and police services. They would be much better if they were run on a for profit basis.

And that socialized highway system. I choose not to use it - I hike from Los Angeles to Phoenix, usually.

Sissy. I tunnel underground with a nothing but a rusty spoon to get there. I don't want to accidentally walk through any stinking socialist parks.

Magorn: MPAVictoria: benlonghair: This should be fun. In before 1k+ posts.

I like Obama. I don't like his idea for socialized healthcare. NOTHING should be 'socialized' in this country.

Yeah. I sure do hate that socialized army. And those socialized fire and police services. They would be much better if they were run on a for profit basis.

okay that's spooky. Not quite a simulpost but close damn enough...

Easily close enough... So that brings up the question: Am i spying on you? Or are you spying on me?

This thread is surprisingly civilized.

By Fark standards. So far.

DEFEATOCRATS!

DamnYankees: MPAVictoria: Sissy. I tunnel underground with a nothing but a rusty spoon to get there. I don't want to accidentally walk through any stinking socialist parks.

Well, my roommate likes to hire a bunch of blind mole rats and they tunnel for him. He likes that immigrant labor.

Well I hope to good he doesn't pay them minimum wage. That would be unamerican!

FTFA: "In the 18 months since President Bush announced the surge, our troops have performed heroically in bringing down the level of violence. New tactics have protected the Iraqi population, and the Sunni tribes have rejected Al Qaeda - greatly weakening its effectiveness."

That's great Senator considering you said before the surge: "I am not persuaded that 20,000 additional troops in Iraq is going to solve the sectarian violence there. In fact, I think it will do the reverse.'"

RevMercutio: The Republicans don't have a plan. They never have. That's why we're still there.

If they put as much effort into developing a plan as they do into figuring out how to blame Democrats for everything, we'd live in a much better world.

In before McCainDemocrat.

/Cool article