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(BBC)   Australian athletes given "Tibet protest packs" to take to Olympics, with pro-democracy T-shirts and badges that they can wear while athletes from other countries stand on the podium to receive medals   (news.bbc.co.uk) divider line 22
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2008-07-14 12:39:38 PM
WHERES MY FREE TIBET? THE SIGN SAID FREE TIBET! I WANT IT NOW!
 
2008-07-14 12:40:20 PM
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/ "Badges ?"
 
2008-07-14 12:42:14 PM
I'm sure they won't have any problem getting these packs through Chinese customs...
 
2008-07-14 12:43:57 PM
Australia wona a total of 49 medals (including 17 golds) at the Athens Olympics. Why would they not be on the podium this Olympics?
 
2008-07-14 01:37:49 PM
TheGrayCat: Australia wona a total of 49 medals (including 17 golds) at the Athens Olympics. Why would they not be on the podium this Olympics?

Subby thought he was talking about Austria.
 
2008-07-14 01:50:04 PM
Jamespoon: TheGrayCat: Australia wona a total of 49 medals (including 17 golds) at the Athens Olympics. Why would they not be on the podium this Olympics?

Subby thought he was talking about Austria.


That's okay, TheGrayCat was talking about the 1896 Olympics. Anyone ambulatory received a medal.

/I kid.
//Hooray for Teddy Flack!
 
2008-07-14 02:19:52 PM
I guess a contingent of the Australian team will be staying behind after the Olympics to manufacture goods destined for Wal*Mart.
 
2008-07-14 02:25:07 PM
I traded Tibet to China for all the tea.
 
2008-07-14 03:30:09 PM
How awesome would it be to see some courageous athlete wear such a t-shirt or run the track, post-win, carrying a Tibet flag?

Speaking of the Beijing Olympics, here's how its logo was created:

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2008-07-14 03:35:28 PM
I_Love_Cheesecake: How awesome would it be to see some courageous athlete wear such a t-shirt or run the track, post-win, carrying a Tibet flag?

Speaking of the Beijing Olympics, here's how its logo was created:


I would really like to see that. I definately expect there to be some shananigans over the course of the Olympics one way or the other.

It just smells of Berlin: 1936
 
2008-07-14 04:43:48 PM
ZachF81: It just smells of Berlin: 1936

And much like 1936, the majority of Americans will call anyone who speaks out an attention whore.
 
2008-07-14 04:51:47 PM
Symbolic badges on the medal stand?

It's been done.

i.infoplease.com

/hotlinked
 
2008-07-14 04:53:10 PM
ZachF81: It just smells of Berlin: 1936

Jessie Owens running in this one too?
 
2008-07-14 04:55:56 PM
Ironclad2: Symbolic badges on the medal stand?

It's been done.



/hotlinked


Yes, but this time it will mean something.
 
2008-07-14 05:34:46 PM
Sorry, but who cares what the Viennese are wearing?
 
2008-07-14 05:38:20 PM
There are going to be very very very nervous tv directors ready to pull the plug on a billion chinese tv viewers. Someone, if not lots of someones are going to try something, possibly get shot doing so.

Some self-important judo chick who wins third place and takes off her robe where she is wearing a "free tibet" shirt, or 20 college kids chaining themselves to a square, or something.

It is going to be fun.

/don't taze me bro
 
2008-07-14 05:40:19 PM
The Olympics is the wrong event to push your political agenda. China is a real mixed bag, and trying to embarrass China during this very significant historical moment is not only in bad taste, and counter productive, but it is also against the "ideals" of the entire Olympic movement. It is about the athletes (and their sponsors). Win or lose. I hope some ass hats don't mess it up.
 
2008-07-14 05:50:39 PM
robbiedo: The Olympics is the wrong event to push your political agenda. China is a real mixed bag, and trying to embarrass China during this very significant historical moment is not only in bad taste, and counter productive, but it is also against the "ideals" of the entire Olympic movement. It is about the athletes (and their sponsors). Win or lose. I hope some ass hats don't mess it up.

Oh, piss off. When have the Olympics ever upheld their ideals? It's awash in money and hypocrisy. China should not have been awarded the games. It's an oppressive state where fundamental human rights are not respected. When is it ever in bad taste to promote human freedoms and dignity?

I, for one, hope some athletes/spectators mess up the Beijing games and cause the thugs in power to lose serious face.
 
2008-07-14 06:05:02 PM
I_Love_Cheesecake: I, for one, hope some athletes/spectators mess up the Beijing games and cause the thugs in power to lose serious face.

The thing is, though, as much as I would like to see something like this happen too, if it does it WILL backfire.

The Chinese government is very, very good at whipping up in the populace a mix of nationalist sentiment and an inferiority complex about 'those imperialist foreigners trying to tell us what to do again'. (Read modern history; pre-1949 the West pretty much walked all over the weak Chinese government for about a century. They still remember that and are touchy about it.)

The torch relay protests were seen in China as foreigners barging in on China's moment in the sun and trying to tell them what to do. I suspect any protests at the games itself will get this kind of reaction x 10 among ordinary Chinese. It doesn't help that most of them have been taught since grade school that Tibet is and has always been part of China, and that there's no reason to believe otherwise.
 
2008-07-14 06:37:04 PM
I_Love_Cheesecake:

Oh, piss off. When have the Olympics ever upheld their ideals? It's awash in money and hypocrisy. China should not have been awarded the games. It's an oppressive state where fundamental human rights are not respected. When is it ever in bad taste to promote human freedoms and dignity?

I, for one, hope some athletes/spectators mess up the Beijing games and cause the thugs in power to lose serious face.

Fundamentally, the Olympics is a celebration of athletic competition, and you can be a all cynical and sarcastic as you like, but I look forward to watching two weeks of outstanding athletic competition. I was really pissed off that the US boycotted the 1980 Olympics, and the return favor in 1984.

I look forward to learning more about China, warts and all. Why not kick back, and try to have an open mind?

BTW, if you we were at a gathering, and we were talking about the Olympics, would you tell me to "piss off?"
 
2008-07-14 09:37:13 PM
robbiedo: I_Love_Cheesecake:

Oh, piss off. When have the Olympics ever upheld their ideals? It's awash in money and hypocrisy. China should not have been awarded the games. It's an oppressive state where fundamental human rights are not respected. When is it ever in bad taste to promote human freedoms and dignity?

I, for one, hope some athletes/spectators mess up the Beijing games and cause the thugs in power to lose serious face.

Fundamentally, the Olympics is a celebration of athletic competition, and you can be a all cynical and sarcastic as you like, but I look forward to watching two weeks of outstanding athletic competition. I was really pissed off that the US boycotted the 1980 Olympics, and the return favor in 1984.

I look forward to learning more about China, warts and all. Why not kick back, and try to have an open mind?

BTW, if you we were at a gathering, and we were talking about the Olympics, would you tell me to "piss off?"


It is naive to believe that international sporting events such as the Olympics can ever be devoid of politics. It is just not possible.

If you want to learn more about China, why not travel there? Why not read some books about Chinese culture and history? You are going to learn next to nothing about China - or any hosting nation, for that matter - from the Olympics.

I am very open-minded as a person. However, I also work in the human rights field and have been involved in campaigns concerning Chinese and Tibetan political prisoners, among others. I am well aware that China has a deplorable human rights record and should justly be condemned for it. I cannot in good conscience support an Olympiad hosted by a country run by thugs where respect for human rights is negligible.

And, yes, if we were at a party and discussing this, I would tell you to piss off. Besides, man, this is Fark.
 
2008-07-14 09:39:01 PM
schief2: I_Love_Cheesecake: I, for one, hope some athletes/spectators mess up the Beijing games and cause the thugs in power to lose serious face.

The thing is, though, as much as I would like to see something like this happen too, if it does it WILL backfire.

The Chinese government is very, very good at whipping up in the populace a mix of nationalist sentiment and an inferiority complex about 'those imperialist foreigners trying to tell us what to do again'. (Read modern history; pre-1949 the West pretty much walked all over the weak Chinese government for about a century. They still remember that and are touchy about it.)

The torch relay protests were seen in China as foreigners barging in on China's moment in the sun and trying to tell them what to do. I suspect any protests at the games itself will get this kind of reaction x 10 among ordinary Chinese. It doesn't help that most of them have been taught since grade school that Tibet is and has always been part of China, and that there's no reason to believe otherwise.


I hear you, mate, and think that you're correct in what the Chinese reaction would be. For me, however, promoting human rights trumps everything else. (I also believe that there is enough dissident protest in China to lessen the nationalist propaganda efforts of Beijing.)
 
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