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(Reuters)   GLAAD names ABC and FX the most gay-friendly networks; other networks counter by claiming that they like gay people, they even have one gay friend   (news.yahoo.com) divider line 64
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2008-07-14 09:51:07 AM  
What about Bravo? I always assumed they were attempting to fill the role of "official gay network" ever since they hired Kathy Griffin to do a show.

/NTTAWWT
 
2008-07-14 10:00:26 AM  
Funny that Logo didn't make that list. Aren't they EXCLUSIVELY gay?
 
2008-07-14 10:06:30 AM  
from tfa:

"The second annual GLAAD Network Responsibility Index examined 4,911 hours of primetime programming on the five major networks. For the first time, the group monitored 1,241 hours of original programming on 10 of the most-watched cable networks."

So, no, Bravo and Logo don't count.
 
2008-07-14 10:44:49 AM  
"The second annual GLAAD Network Responsibility Index examined 4,911 hours of primetime programming

Someone shove a cock in their mouths and shut them up already. Busybodies.
 
2008-07-14 10:53:18 AM  
I love how NIP/TUCK is played up as gay friendly. Last season they had Rosie, play a beard for a gay guy, a meth head pushed into gay porn, a Dykes on Bikes motorcycle accident, but they have a gay character whose life is not a train wreck (other than that whole stolen kidney thing) so it is all good. Remind me why I watch this show again, I swear it is like a crack addiction.
 
2008-07-14 10:59:59 AM  
www.tvguide.com

Frank: What's a power bottom?
Mac: A power bottom is a bottom that is capable of receiving an enormous amount of power.
Dennis: Actually Mac, you got it backwards. See a power bottom's actually generating all the power by doing most of the work.

/hotlinked
 
2008-07-14 11:10:17 AM  
vonschiller: from tfa:

"The second annual GLAAD Network Responsibility Index examined 4,911 hours of primetime programming on the five major networks. For the first time, the group monitored 1,241 hours of original programming on 10 of the most-watched cable networks."

So, no, Bravo and Logo don't count.


If FX could slip in as a "most watched" then I'm surprised Lifetime didn't make the gay-friendly list.
 
2008-07-14 11:17:20 AM  
Gay people are ok, as long as they don't act too queer.
 
2008-07-14 11:18:17 AM  
i282.photobucket.com

Something tells me these guys dont like Jullian all that much.
 
2008-07-14 11:25:50 AM  
GLAAD names ABC and FX the most gay-friendly networks;


I guess their cable doesn't get the religious channels?
 
2008-07-14 11:27:50 AM  
TNT (1%) = my new favorite channel

fark pandering to queers. and FX is the shiat. I'm guessing Nip/Tuck really balanced out their ratio.
 
2008-07-14 11:33:27 AM  
Miggity: fark pandering to queers.

They're not pandering to me, just my wallet. I have no children to blow money on and yet my maturity ensures I have more cash than the childfree crowd. Fudge is the new gold.
 
2008-07-14 11:35:20 AM  
Que the "Religious Right" boycott in 3...2...1...
 
2008-07-14 11:43:02 AM  
I have nothing against gays. I'm pro-gay marriage and God knows I love the girl on girl action but how loud does approximately 5% of the population have to be?
 
2008-07-14 11:43:53 AM  
We get it, your gay and no one gives a shiat.
 
2008-07-14 11:48:14 AM  
Ugh, GLAAD. They're like the gay PeTA.
 
2008-07-14 11:54:26 AM  
awfulperson: Ugh, GLAAD. They're like the gay PeTA.


This post brought to you by The Department of Redundancy Department.
 
2008-07-14 11:59:34 AM  
I think people who are proud to express their disdain for gays are secretly mad, MAD I tell you! for your awesome new outfit.

/Not that there's anything wrong with that.
 
2008-07-14 12:05:30 PM  
www.stickergiant.com

Is not glaad about these results at all.
 
2008-07-14 12:08:23 PM  
Miggity: fark pandering to queers.

Hurr hurr! Can I quit paying for your crotchfruits education now? It's really cutting into my recreational drug and Speedo budget.
 
2008-07-14 12:09:12 PM  
ABC and FX should have a parade to celebrate
 
2008-07-14 12:11:51 PM  
Gunny Highway: Something tells me these guys dont like Jullian all that much.

I came here to say something about The Shield, too. It seems like they just sort of brushed Julian's homosexuality aside story-wise. It was a source of major conflict for the first couple of seasons and gave his character real depth. I'm guessing the writers just didn't know where to go with it.
 
2008-07-14 12:13:19 PM  
It's unusually homophobic in here today. Oh well.

This will give The American Family Association someone new to boycott. They don't look ridiculous enough yet.
 
2008-07-14 12:14:26 PM  
Tom_Slick: I love how NIP/TUCK is played up as gay friendly. Last season they had Rosie, play a beard for a gay guy, a meth head pushed into gay porn, a Dykes on Bikes motorcycle accident, but they have a gay character whose life is not a train wreck (other than that whole stolen kidney thing) so it is all good. Remind me why I watch this show again, I swear it is like a crack addiction.

It's crap, but it's very entertaining crap. Completely over-the-top. I don't think it's ever been as good as the first couple of seasons though.

Farkboy2099: Que the "Religious Right" boycott in 3...2...1...

In the case of FX they probably were boycotting long before this.
 
2008-07-14 12:19:49 PM  
cubsfan07: awfulperson: Ugh, GLAAD. They're like the gay PeTA.

This post brought to you by The Department of Redundancy Department.


Don't you dare try to equate my lifestyle choices with theirs, putting my God-given queerness up for comparison against their perversion.

meshman: It's unusually homophobic in here today. Oh well.

Indeed. :(
 
2008-07-14 12:21:24 PM  
The American Family Association has been boycotting Disney (aka ABC) for years now and they were freaking out long before "Brothers and Sisters" ever stepped foot on the airwaves.

I was kind of surprised though that they mentioned "America's Next Top Model" and not "Gossip Girl". GG is probably the more positive portrayal of gays versus ANTP that perpetuates stereotypes and the all to frequent "only skinny is beautiful b*tches" attitude.

Also what about F/X's Damages? They had a gay lawyer on the show this season and the actor who played the role was amazing in his conflicted portrayal. Nip/Tuck is nothing more than broadcasting the spectrum of hedonism.

/There's more to this rant but I'm hungry and it's time for lunch.
//Yes, I watch Nip/Tuck too, and I like it, I'm just saying if you're looking for positive portrayals I wouldn't put that out as a front runner.
 
2008-07-14 12:26:00 PM  
"I have many gay friends!"
"My father's gay!"
 
2008-07-14 12:28:45 PM  
aedude01: I was kind of surprised though that they mentioned "America's Next Top Model"

Ive caught a few episodes with my girlfriend before, and that show scares the shiat out of me. Thats before you even comprehend the crazy blather that comes out of Tyra Banks mouth.

The "Ms. Jay" person has to be what nightmares are made out of. Same with that guy with the silver hair.

I can see how some of those shows dont help the gay community. They have to have the most flaming, idiotic, scary people in the entire universe.

...the crazy Lesbian in the last season of Top Chef especially annoyed me though. I wanted to punch my TV.
 
2008-07-14 12:30:33 PM  
Dynascape: aedude01: I was kind of surprised though that they mentioned "America's Next Top Model"

Ive caught a few episodes with my girlfriend before, and that show scares the shiat out of me. Thats before you even comprehend the crazy blather that comes out of Tyra Banks mouth.

The "Ms. Jay" person has to be what nightmares are made out of. Same with that guy with the silver hair.

I can see how some of those shows dont help the gay community. They have to have the most flaming, idiotic, scary people in the entire universe.

...the crazy Lesbian in the last season of Top Chef especially annoyed me though. I wanted to punch my TV.


Which one? Weren't there like three? The couple that started out and then the really crazy one that wound up in the final 3?

/Top Chef junkie
 
2008-07-14 12:31:46 PM  
50 Mission: Frank: What's a power bottom?
Mac: A power bottom is a bottom that is capable of receiving an enormous amount of power.
Dennis: Actually Mac, you got it backwards. See a power bottom's actually generating all the power by doing most of the work.

/hotlinked


Beat me to it, goddamn you.

//dayman
 
2008-07-14 12:32:58 PM  
ESPN must be trying to fight its way up the rankings. They've been showing a lot of softball lately.
 
2008-07-14 12:37:09 PM  
LeafyGreens: Dynascape: aedude01: I was kind of surprised though that they mentioned "America's Next Top Model"

Ive caught a few episodes with my girlfriend before, and that show scares the shiat out of me. Thats before you even comprehend the crazy blather that comes out of Tyra Banks mouth.

The "Ms. Jay" person has to be what nightmares are made out of. Same with that guy with the silver hair.

I can see how some of those shows dont help the gay community. They have to have the most flaming, idiotic, scary people in the entire universe.

...the crazy Lesbian in the last season of Top Chef especially annoyed me though. I wanted to punch my TV.

Which one? Weren't there like three? The couple that started out and then the really crazy one that wound up in the final 3?

/Top Chef junkie


Crazy one in the Final Three. For some reason I didnt like her at all.

I like the Asian guy and Richard at the end. The rest were pretty boring or alternately, asshats. I have a hard time watching a show when half the contestants insult everyone.

Honestly, I love Anthony Bourdains new show, but think that if I met him in person would think he was an arrogant prick. Meh.
 
2008-07-14 12:39:49 PM  
"No gay son of mine is going to be a not gay!"
 
2008-07-14 12:42:19 PM  
What about CBS? They have a gay storyline on "As the World Turns."

i70.photobucket.com

/Quite hot, actually. :)
 
2008-07-14 01:01:19 PM  
Dynascape: Crazy one in the Final Three. For some reason I didnt like her at all.

Lisa? I don't think anyone liked her, and she never should've been in the finale anyway. I think she made history for being the first cheftestant to be in the bottom two every single episode until the finale or something. And she is just a biatch. On the reunion special, she said she gets dirty looks in public.

Not_God: What about CBS? They have a gay storyline on "As the World Turns."

There's a lesbian storyline on "Grey's Anatomy," and the writers consulted with GLAAD to do it. I suspect that has a lot to do with this, or maybe lesbian just trumps gay?
 
2008-07-14 01:12:21 PM  
I've long stopped caring what GLAAD has to say; they tend to get upset about really stupid and trivial things. As someone said above, they have become the PETA of gay rights.
 
2008-07-14 01:24:36 PM  
America needs more TV shows with plots that involve more graphic heterosexual and homosexual sex. America wants this. The networks are only delivering what the people want. They are doing a public service...
 
2008-07-14 01:32:50 PM  
Dynascape: I like the Asian guy and Richard at the end. The rest were pretty boring or alternately, asshats. I have a hard time watching a show when half the contestants insult everyone.

I almost stopped watching--it was not the most interesting/exciting season thus far. Plus, I miss Dale doing his little booty-shaking dance during the opening credits.

Aww, Dale. *sigh*
 
2008-07-14 01:43:20 PM  
Plate of Crazy: Dynascape: Crazy one in the Final Three. For some reason I didnt like her at all.

Lisa? I don't think anyone liked her, and she never should've been in the finale anyway. I think she made history for being the first cheftestant to be in the bottom two every single episode until the finale or something. And she is just a biatch. On the reunion special, she said she gets dirty looks in public.

Not_God:


No, Lisa was season 4. Of course, it took me until she said 'my girlfriend as a kid' to figure out she was gay.

My personal favorites were Spike and Stephanie the whole way though.

The thing that always pointed out the true demographics of Bravo was when they would ask who was the sexiest of the hosts, and Tom would beat out Padma. By a lot. Like, 30 points.

/even if you were gay, why couldn't you see Padma's hotness?
 
2008-07-14 01:52:38 PM  
The Glass Dragon: I came here to say something about The Shield, too. It seems like they just sort of brushed Julian's homosexuality aside story-wise. It was a source of major conflict for the first couple of seasons and gave his character real depth. I'm guessing the writers just didn't know where to go with it.

He's decided to pretend to be straight. Some Republicans pull that off for decades.
 
2008-07-14 02:02:17 PM  
Deeznutz: We get it, your gay

You got my gay?
 
2008-07-14 02:06:56 PM  
I LOVE MY DEAD GAY SON!
 
2008-07-14 02:11:21 PM  
Not_God: What about CBS? They have a gay storyline on "As the World Turns."

/Quite hot, actually. :)


Gay TV, just like gay movies, pretty much sucks.

Of course we have an entire industry built on idealism and perceived status quo, and it's far worse among the gays. You just look at those guys, individually, and they scream "gay." Gay TV shows are all about being gay, and gay movies seem to fall into one of several categories:

1) AIDS;
2) discovering yourself and your best friend in your small-town sports team;
3) coming out with difficulty in the south/other bigoted place.

If the gays want to be accepted (either societally or in media), they need to be more like regular people. I'd watch a gay movie with gay people just being people, and were I to watch soap operas, I'd want my gay characters to be reasonably comparable to my straight ones. I don't want my gay characters to look like 12-year-olds girls with bad highlights. That's the only way it's not going to matter any more.

I'm not sure which is worse--the way hets perceive gays, or the way gays perceive themselves.

/gay
 
2008-07-14 02:19:15 PM  
austerity101
If the gays want to be accepted (either societally or in media), they need to be more like regular people.

How do you know that the gay people are not the ones who are regular people, and everyone else is not? if you're answer is because they prefer a sexual orientation which might be in the minority, then fine... on that basis they are not the same as regular people and so why should they act like they are?
 
2008-07-14 02:22:43 PM  
Late night Comedy Central should count.

They show commercial after commercial for Girls Gone Wild DVDs, with girls kissing each other over and over. If that isn't gay friendly, I don't know what is.
 
2008-07-14 02:28:15 PM  
T.rex: austerity101
If the gays want to be accepted (either societally or in media), they need to be more like regular people.

How do you know that the gay people are not the ones who are regular people, and everyone else is not? if you're answer is because they prefer a sexual orientation which might be in the minority, then fine... on that basis they are not the same as regular people and so why should they act like they are?


What I was saying is that gay people complain about not being accepted, but yet continue to do things that further segregate and ostracize themselves from larger society. Allowing marginalizing movies and TV to be made is but one example. Pride parades are another. It has little to do with sexual orientation, although that's the basis for the split in "culture."

I don't get up out of my gay bed and take a gay shower and eat my gay cereal before getting into my gay car and heading to my gay job (ok, my job IS kinda gay, but it's the one I have at the moment). Nothing about my day revolves around being gay other than spending time with my boyfriend. Why can't TV and movies reflect this? Furthermore, why can't those gays who are so concerned with being accepted focus on our similar traits rather than play up our dissimilar ones?
 
2008-07-14 02:34:20 PM  
austerity101: Allowing marginalizing movies and TV to be made is but one example.

A small portion of the community participates in creating these networks and parades. There are lots of gay people who dont watch LOGO or march in parades. They are normal people and the are all around you, completely ingrained in society.
 
2008-07-14 02:44:23 PM  
austerity101, i don't think the flamboyant gays care about fitting into normal society, hence them being flamboyant.

you are apparently are so concerned with being 'accepted', that you've probably missed out on waking up in a gay bed and eating a gay breakfast.

i don't think the fallacy is acting too crazy to be accepted, i think the fallacy is caring whether you are accepted or not. no one should care if they adequately conform to society constraints... gay , straight, whatever,.... live your own life.
 
2008-07-14 03:05:35 PM  
austerity101: Gay TV, just like gay movies, pretty much sucks...and gay movies seem to fall into one of several categories:

1) AIDS;
2) discovering yourself and your best friend in your small-town sports team;
3) coming out with difficulty in the south/other bigoted place.


I swear, it seems like gay movies morphed directly form the grim, sad AIDS dramas of the 80's and early 90's (And the Band Played On, Longtime Companion, It's My Party) straight to the annoying, forgettable fluff of the late 90's/00's (Trick, Broken Hearts Club), with only a few in between that were remotely watchable (Jeffrey, Beautiful Thing, Priscilla).

You just can't make a watchable film/TV show based solely on the theme of queerness.
 
2008-07-14 03:05:59 PM  
T.rex: no one should care if they adequately conform to society constraints... gay , straight, whatever,.... live your own life.

I agree, but the media doesn't portray this.
 
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