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2008-07-12 10:05:35 PM  
No more signing receipts with free Viagra writing instruments. Penis.
 
2008-07-12 10:12:56 PM  
i4.photobucket.com
 
2008-07-12 10:53:59 PM  
Drug companies ALONE spend $30 billion on marketing? No wonder our healthcare system is so farked..
 
2008-07-12 11:31:04 PM  
showbiz?

I could see geek, or maybe business.
Even main.

but showbiz?

/not subby
 
2008-07-12 11:47:47 PM  
Oh man, that Viagra calculator that slowly pops up is going to become a hot Ebay item in the future.
 
2008-07-13 12:30:25 AM  
You know, if the drug companies put that $30 billion against the offset their production costs, they might not have to charge $25 a pill for antiretrovirals and cancer drugs

//yeah, I know, they would anyway
 
2008-07-13 12:32:13 AM  
Thank God. I'm tired of this pharmaceutical marketing crap. It is unethical, and should be illegal.

With that said, I did get this Viagra hat from a rep when it first came out. It has been good for some laughs over the years :)

farm4.static.flickr.com
 
2008-07-13 01:14:28 AM  
Crap. I've made a bunch of money renting equipment to pharma reps for those soon-to-be-outlawed dinner sessions.

Oh well, at least it's all paid for.
 
2008-07-13 01:49:50 AM  
The Viagra pens actually have a built in pill holder, which is kinda neat.
 
2008-07-13 02:01:35 AM  
It seems like 1 out of 3 pens I see is a pharma promo. Guess this will have an impact on those of us who still physically write things.
 
2008-07-13 02:07:06 AM  
Darn, flacid pens are so much harder to write with.

/got nothing
 
2008-07-13 02:08:47 AM  
Oh man.

I had a box of Viagra pens i was giving out to people. I got them from my father... a Pharmacist. He's starting to call friday "free-shiatday." He gets a free lunch, a talking to from a doctor some drug company paid thousands for to shill their product and free pens, pads of paper and other things. Thats where all your prescription drug insurance money goes to. This is 1 pharmacy, which has on staff 3 pharacists and a tech or two daily. There our thousands of clinics like the one my father works at. Thats one big shiathole our hard earned money into just for advertisment.

Many of his customers are elderly. He tries to give them what already works, what is cheap and generic as much as possible cuz these drugs are farking expensive.

Thank God I went into engineering so I didn't have to deal with this level of bs.

/no, not bitter. not at all.
 
2008-07-13 02:12:04 AM  
I know a doctor who's records consistently show a 300% increase in certain prescriptions after that company's salesman comes and visits him. While a bit inconvenient at times, this will be good. Perhaps doctors will start treating people instead of just throwing the drug of the day at them.
 
2008-07-13 02:20:42 AM  
I was in my doctor's office, and the were writing with Effexor pens and notepads. It really pissed me off. I hated to think how many extra unnecessary prescriptions for this rot would be sold just because of all the spiffs.
 
2008-07-13 02:26:27 AM  
I worked for a medical publishing company, and everyone, including the creative staff (who didn't go to Conferences) had drug pens, drug USB stick, and the requisate sponge brain/heart/kidney/platelet/liver stress reliever. Awesome fun to biff around the office.
 
2008-07-13 02:38:26 AM  
Tenebreux:and the requisate sponge brain/heart/kidney/platelet/liver stress reliever. Awesome fun to biff around the office.

Hell yes. I worked for an offbeat retail place that got a freaking pallet of those things donated to us when some blood pressure pill got yanked off the market. We had the best 20 minute ball war.

/And the worst 2 hour cleanup of all the merchandise we destroyed in the process
 
2008-07-13 02:41:13 AM  
It's a farking pen.
Cripes, why don't tackle some real issues.
Like my anal bead necklace. It smells like crap.
 
2008-07-13 02:48:58 AM  
Speaking only from my experience...the docs I know don't give a crap what name is on the pens and pads of paper, and don't prescribe based on that. The practice manager takes whatever is dropped off by reps because it saves money on office supplies, pure and simple.

The dinners, etc. that are discussed in the article are another story, however, and I am glad that approach is (hopefully) being sat on.
 
2008-07-13 02:49:38 AM  
robbiedo

Less than you think.
My mom works as a nurse in a local doctor's office. Even with all the office supply needs of the other staff and their families being covered, she brought home enough pens that I was able to make it through college before I had the experience of paying money for a pen.

The sheer volume of pens from the different drug companies makes it impossible for the doctor to support any one product. Often the more pens the rep hands out, the more despised said medicine is.
 
2008-07-13 02:49:42 AM  
www.penisland.com

/My nothing. Let me show you it.
 
2008-07-13 02:52:09 AM  
Thunderboy:www.penisland.com (new window)

/My nothing. Let me show you it.


Ugh. Now with click-n-pop action.

You've already seen it anyway. Just move along. Sorry.
 
2008-07-13 02:55:59 AM  
But I can still wear my Viagra Tie, correct?

/Yes, I had a Viagra Tie
//Found it at my Great Aunt's House
///Yikes
 
2008-07-13 02:56:51 AM  
Eliminating the dinners is going to piss people off. Often, the dinners are elaborate affairs, with 10-20 doctors and/or their staff taken to fancy restaurants in the area to listen to short drug presentations and then be given a lavish meal.

So, what this means is that you'll spend more time cooling your heels in the waiting room (where you probably already sit your ass for 1/2 an hour over your appointment time) while the doctor takes visits from drug reps during office hours.

For example, last month, I spent 45 minutes in the car waiting for my wife to come out of an appointment with a specialist... meanwhile, no less than three drug reps went in and out of the doctor's suite, and only ONE other patient.

My wife reports that she waited for 40 minutes, saw the doctor for three minutes, then paid her bill and left.

What was the doc doing the whole time? Getting flirted with by cute little drug reps in business suits with plenty of free swag.
 
2008-07-13 03:25:24 AM  
Assgasket:Eliminating the dinners is going to piss people off. Often, the dinners are elaborate affairs, with 10-20 doctors and/or their staff taken to fancy restaurants in the area to listen to short drug presentations and then be given a lavish meal.

In the pharmacy, esp. night shift, it's either boston market or club sandwiches. That is, of course, if day shift left anything behind.

/off to hold my beloved zyvox pen
 
2008-07-13 03:39:14 AM  
"Like my anal bead necklace. It smells like crap."

Well duh, what did ya expect, petunias?
/no shiat.
 
2008-07-13 03:56:27 AM  
Link
Guess what its about. Totally safe for work

/swear to robot jesus
 
2008-07-13 04:07:31 AM  
Fact: The U.S. is one of only two nations in the world in which drug companies are allowed to advertise on TV.
 
2008-07-13 04:59:12 AM  
I personally loved the gynecologist in our local clinic who had Cialis logos all over the paper covering the examining tables.

/told him it sounded like a vicious circle to me
//he wasn't amused
///but the nurse was
 
2008-07-13 05:07:48 AM  
As long as they keep getting the free samples to hand out. Stuff like that has saved my ass more times than I can count, when I needed meds bad & had no money for a script right away.
 
2008-07-13 05:10:53 AM  
markie_farkie:Drug companies ALONE spend $30 billion on marketing? No wonder our healthcare system is so farked..

Wow, that's almost enough money to get a single drug through clinical trials! Travesty!

//Actually, it kind of is.
//That it's that expensive to get drugs approved, not the advertising budgets of an entire bloody industy, the ads are about right.
 
2008-07-13 05:34:08 AM  
Aar1012:But I can still wear my Viagra Tie, correct?

/Yes, I had a Viagra Tie
//Found it at my Great Aunt's House
///Yikes


I also have a Viagra tie, courtesy of my cousin who works for Pfizer (and is getting an enhanced kick out of these replies).

She didn't have any of the actual product, right?
 
2008-07-13 07:28:11 AM  
I think they should prevent the companies from advertising so damn much...these companies have been so successful with print/TV advertising that most people have diagnosed themselves and decided which meds they want. To many people, the doctor is just a prescription machine.
 
2008-07-13 07:47:08 AM  
I just wish they would take that damned "Viva Viagra" jingle off of the television. It's embarrassing to have my 5 year old running around singing it in front of my in-laws. Of course, they shushed her up right away, which now means she wants to know why.
 
2008-07-13 08:01:27 AM  
varmitydog

What you should do is break out the video camera and record her signing the song. That way in 10 years you can reply the recording and laugh your ass off at her mortification.

Assuming folks in 10 years still get embarrassed by things that facts of life and shouldn't really be embarrassing.
 
2008-07-13 08:05:53 AM  
varmitydog:I just wish they would take that damned "Viva Viagra" jingle off of the television. It's embarrassing to have my 5 year old running around singing it in front of my in-laws. Of course, they shushed her up right away, which now means she wants to know why.

NOOOOOOO!!!! DO NOT WANT!

Now I have that stuiped song in my head. I hate you!
 
2008-07-13 08:17:10 AM  
Who wants' to bet that the drug company's figured out that all this swag isn't getting them much of a return? If they really wanted to change things, they'd increase their efforts on education to doctors, and end all consumer advertising.

I have a family member who's a Merc rep, and I get all the free pens (among other useless crap) I want. He holds "educational" lunch seminars several times a year, at which he will feed 20-30 doctors while giving his pitch. Without free food and crap to give away, I wonder how many doctors show up after these rules go into force.
 
2008-07-13 08:22:29 AM  
FuturePastNow:The Viagra pens actually have a built in pill holder, which is kinda neat.

I have one of these. A friend is a grade school teacher, and they were putting together little goodie bags for the kids for the end of school party. She hit on the idea to ask parents if they could provide something from their workplace - pens, rulers, etc. So one father gave her a whole farking case of these pens, with Viagra on the side, and the little blue cap that pops up to store your pill. She decided they were inappropriate for her third graders, but gave them to all her friends.
 
2008-07-13 08:35:00 AM  
why is this in "showbiz"
 
2008-07-13 08:42:36 AM  
seminole87:why is this in "showbiz"

I was wondering that myself. My bet is that we have a hungover mod.
 
2008-07-13 08:48:28 AM  
I work in a Pediatric office.....my coworkers are gonna be upset about this one. One woman I work with will not even let the drug rep see the docoontil she gets her FREE PEN!!
 
2008-07-13 08:49:50 AM  
"As part of its revised marketing code, the pharmaceutical trade organization determined that such items, which are typically adorned with a company or product logo, take away from the massive profits the industry takes in every year."
 
2008-07-13 09:02:01 AM  
Well, I'm glad that the congressmen who initially pushed for these changes are setting the example by not receiving gifts of any kind from special interest groups set on pushing their agenda.

Dear government, lead by example, not be being a bunch of farkholes.
 
2008-07-13 09:10:10 AM  
I am interested to see what the new "educational" items will be with "Viagra" and "Adderall" and "Vyvance" written all over them??

Viagra ruler in inches and centimeters?
Adderall shiney ball to hold your attention?
 
2008-07-13 09:25:13 AM  
I want OTC Viagra!
 
2008-07-13 09:33:25 AM  
I'm not really all that surprised with the cut backs. I worked in an Infectious Disease clinic for 5 years. In the beginning, we had free lunches 2-3 times a week, plus the weekly shipment of free stuff (pens, clipboards, etc). By the time I left, it was down to about one lunch a month, and maybe one or two little boxes of stuff sent per drug company.

/Loved those pens...guess we'll have to buy ours now
 
2008-07-13 10:10:34 AM  
All that crap is such a waste of money. I don't know how many ridiculous items pharm reps left at the doctor's offices I worked at way back when...clocks, pen holders, magnets, etc. However, at the same time I was working part time at the doctor's officers, I was was also waiting tables. I made sure I took all the choice gross Rx pens to give out to my tables to sign their credit cards. The pens for prescriptions for herpes, ringworm, etc. Go ahead, ass, still my pen with the Rx for herpes (and this was long before the 20 million herpes Rx ads on TV). Go ahead.
 
2008-07-13 10:50:32 AM  
Wow, I never realized how bad it actually was. I've only had one family doctor in the last 20 years, and every single freebie they get either has the name cut out of it, or scratched out with a black sharpie.

Then again, I seem to have a real doctor too. When I hacked my hand open with a saw blade, he refused to give me any pain killers because I "didn't need them and should just take an aspirin if it starts to hurt." Guess what, he was right... although I could have really gone for that $20 bottle of Codeine.
 
2008-07-13 11:08:28 AM  
markie_farkie:Drug companies ALONE spend $30 billion on marketing? No wonder our healthcare system is so farked..

I work for a medical school. The nurses at one of our clinics haven't paid for their own lunch on Thursday's for the past 5 years, drug reps always bring in lunch that day for some reason. Always. And this is a (mostly) free clinic that specializes in treating low income AIDS patients. Imagine what the drug reps are giving to doctors offices who actually make money.
 
2008-07-13 11:17:31 AM  
I work for a medical device company and this explains all the swag we are getting in the office. I've worked there for five years and over the last two months it's been trickling down to the people without window offices.

Of course being in Medical device, you see some swag that you'd rather not. It's difficult to carry on a serious conversation with the GM when he's asking you to check out the breast implant on his desk (we were part of Mentor around the time they got their FDA conditional approval). The current issue is a salesperson who likes to play with the rectal ballon (for stabilizing the prostate during surgery) while he talks to you.

Doctors can be just as bad. We had one doctor who insisted the company give him two prostetic testicles for his show dog (it had been neutered) before he would order any product.
 
2008-07-13 11:58:40 AM  
The pens and other swag are a good place to start. Now, let's put an end to the free lunches. In the medical practice where I work, the drug reps buy lunch for everyone -- about 30 people -- everyday. This type of largess does nothing for the patient.
 
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