Nels:In a boxing match, Ali would crush Lee. He's bigger, has better technique, and is used to taking hard hits. Probably wouldn't take too long.

In an all-out fight, Lee would win hands down. Wouldn't take long at all.

I doubt that. Lee has enormous speed and strength. As has been mentioned above, Lee could punch, while standing still, with his fist a mere inch away from his target, and break bones, and send whoever he hit flying. I doubt Ali would even land a hit, and I doubt Bruce would feel it if he did.

Steve Levine and Brian Wright called, they want their idea back.

/Cornell '98

Nels:In a boxing match, Ali would crush Lee. He's bigger, has better technique, and is used to taking hard hits. Probably wouldn't take too long.

In an all-out fight, Lee would win hands down. Wouldn't take long at all.

This.

As Lee always said, comparing different styles and sports against each other is impossible. Every sport has rules that favor the person in that style. An all out fight though? Then all your sports technique goes out the window.

Nels:In a boxing match, Ali would crush Lee. He's bigger, has better technique, and is used to taking hard hits. Probably wouldn't take too long.

Of course, the Ali one is kind of easier to figure, since he did do an MMA exhibition match.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=aCWHcuXCLRo

You nerds make me laugh.

Snarfangel:weezbo:Pocket Ninja:That's all fine and good, but could the Enterprise defeat a Star Destroyer?

Possibly, but the Death Star beats the Enterprise hands down.

Bah, a General Products #4 hull equipped with a Slaver stasis field would laugh at both.

NERD!

Wait, I knew exactly what you were talking about. Does that make me a nerd too?

Bruce Lee was about 5'7" and 150 pounts...

He would get annihilated by Ali whether in the ring or on the street no matter what ruleset was being enforced.

You just can't teach size/strength/power.

There is a reason they break fighters into different groups by weight....

One Bad Apple:Bruce was a movie star not a fighter.

Uh, actually, he was both. The fact that he starred in movies does not mean that he couldn't fight. He didn't do so professionally, but he did do a lot of exhibition fights over the years.

I suppose if you want to say he was fighting the Washington Generals every time, I can't prove you wrong. Can't prove all the people Ali fought didn't take dives either, though.

id say LARP players are more likely to cut down warcraft players cuz larping requires standing up and moving around and warcraft doesnt so all their playesr are 300 pounds with carpal tunnel and scoliosis. i think both would be too scared to leave their basements to actually partake in said deathmatch tho

D&D players would win because it essentially comes down to a rules-oriented computer versus a cheating DM.

churchill72:Bruce Lee was about 5'7" and 150 pounts...

He would get annihilated by Ali whether in the ring or on the street no matter what ruleset was being enforced.

You just can't teach size/strength/power.

There is a reason they break fighters into different groups by weight....

You can damn sure teach how to absorb size/strength/power.

Zombie vs. Vampire?

It all depends on the skill of the fighters, I've seen little guys take down big guys with a well placed choke hold.

"But Superman is a real guy. No way can a cartoon beat up a real guy."

/hate the actor, but loved the flick

It is by Coke alone I set my mind in motion.
It is by the Caffine of Cola that thoughts aquire speed,
the hands aquire shaking.
The shaking is a warning.
It is by Coke alone I set my mind in motion.

/WoW player
//D&D player
///LARPer

Asako:It all depends on the skill of the fighters, I've seen little guys take down big guys with a well placed choke hold.

what are they choking?

One Bad Apple:Bruce's one inch punch was a flashy example of "stand still while I hit you". Not all that useful if the guy doesn't let you hit him. It's bullshido, there's one born every minute

Omaha, NE - the Alpha and Omega of all things Karate.

/aren't you late for the gym?

pushcart:Zombie vs. Vampire?

Or for you Fulci fans: Zombie vs. Shark!

"Mr. Hood, who would win in a fight between Flash Gordon and Tarzan?"

/hopes his birthday turns out good

weezbo:Pocket Ninja:That's all fine and good, but could the Enterprise defeat a Star Destroyer?

Possibly, but the Death Star beats the Enterprise hands down.


Assuming it gets a shot off. You've got a realtively immobile weapon's platform with a ridiculously long charge time (detectable by sensors) a visible "tell", and a firing dead-zone of approximately "the 3/4 of the sphere not directly infront of the dimpled part."

It depends what Enterprise, too. Kirk would just have everyone on the bridge lean real hard to the right and narrowly evade every shot. Picard would just park behind it. Janeway would get blow'd up because she'd be parked infront of the dangerous end trying to communicate.


And the trench run was just silly. Was it really necessary to fly in a straight line through a narrow groove for miles just to get to your target? It's not like it was a tunnel. You only need to dive in long enough to level out and take the shot. Way over there...


Mentalpatient87:I don't know about a 1v1 fight, but a large scale war? WoW players have raids, and large scale battle orientation practice. Regardless of physical ability we'd be able to focus our efforts in better places. DnD would go down..

DnD players would kick their asses while the WoW raiders flail about complaining that the recent RL 0.8 patch broke their macros and wondering why hammering one button repeatedly for four hours isn't working.

still one of the greatest conversations I've overheard were two stoner metal kids sitting on the ground in Harvard Square in the mid 90's:

kid one: In a 3-way battle between God, the Devil, and Ozzy, who would win?
kid two: Definitely Ozzy.

Lamune_Baba:You've got a realtively immobile weapon's platform with a ridiculously long charge time (detectable by sensors) a visible "tell", and a firing dead-zone of approximately "the 3/4 of the sphere not directly infront of the dimpled part."

Plus turbo laser turrets and a Brazilian small support fighters.

weezbo:Nels:In a boxing match, Ali would crush Lee. He's bigger, has better technique, and is used to taking hard hits. Probably wouldn't take too long.
Of course, the Ali one is kind of easier to figure, since he did do an MMA exhibition match.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=aCWHcuXCLRo

Reminds me of :
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=1uQlB99WCuk&feature=related

"You can damn sure teach how to absorb size/strength/power."

The only thing Lee would be absorbing is Ali's massive fist and then he would be absorbing lots of concrete after that. There is simply no way IN THE REAL WORLD for a fight between a heavyweight legend like Ali and a 5'8, 150 pound lightweight like Lee to last more than one punch.

Ali is a legend for a reason you know....

Cullufun(^)
//Beep-Beep round 2

Dennis_Moore:churchill72:Bruce Lee was about 5'7" and 150 pounts...

He would get annihilated by Ali whether in the ring or on the street no matter what ruleset was being enforced.

You just can't teach size/strength/power.

There is a reason they break fighters into different groups by weight....

You can damn sure teach how to absorb size/strength/power.

Or dodge, dodge is more likely.

Ali was such a prideful bastard that once Lee threw a kick Ali would throw a kick. That would be his downfall.

Edmund Blackadder:I have to go with the DnD players. Both are fed a steady diet of doritos and Mountain Dew, so that cancels out....DnD requires more effort...rolling dice and gesticulating madly when the orc hordes are getting frisky.

/never played WoW
//Not getting the 4th edition books for DnD either

Not to mention D&D players are actually capable of leaving their basements to get to the DM's basement! That exercise has got to count for something...

"It's not news, it's FARK" has never rang quite so true.

SCA would pwn Renn Faire, Renn would pwn Combat Sim LARP, Combat Sim LARP would pwn D&Ders, D&Ders would pwn Sci Fi LARP, Sci Fi LARP would pwn WoWsers, WoWsers would pwn Vampire LARPers, Vampire LARPers might pwn 'life-challenged' 4th graders - as long as they didn't come from South Park.

/If you take any of this seriously, you fail at life.

adamgreeney:Nels:In a boxing match, Ali would crush Lee. He's bigger, has better technique, and is used to taking hard hits. Probably wouldn't take too long.

In an all-out fight, Lee would win hands down. Wouldn't take long at all.

This.

As Lee always said, comparing different styles and sports against each other is impossible. Every sport has rules that favor the person in that style. An all out fight though? Then all your sports technique goes out the window.

500$ on Lee. Ali wouldn't get a single hit on Bruce. Bruce would stay outside of Ali's radius. Ali's arms would be broken in a dozen places. i'd put any Taijutsu black belt against Ali in his prime. You can't box if your windpipe is crushed, or your knee or arms are broken.

churchill72:"You can damn sure teach how to absorb size/strength/power."

The only thing Lee would be absorbing is Ali's massive fist and then he would be absorbing lots of concrete after that. There is simply no way IN THE REAL WORLD for a fight between a heavyweight legend like Ali and a 5'8, 150 pound lightweight like Lee to last more than one punch.

Ali is a legend for a reason you know....

Knockouts don't really depend on the power of the punch past a certain point. It's all about whether the receiver saw the punch coming. A knockout is a weird physiological response to a surprise trauma. If you see the punch coming, then barring things like a broken face or a severe concussion, even a really strong punch probably won't knock you out.

Anyway, martial arts is all about removing the size/strength advantage. If both people have approximately equal skill, the bigger and stronger person has a much greater chance of winning. If the lighter guy is good enough, the weight advantage isn't enough to guarantee a win. Size/weight can compensate for skill, but only to a point.

All martial arts, including western boxing, were developed on those principles. Check out aikido for an extreme example.

I'm not saying Bruce Lee would definitely win, but my money would be on him. Ali was great, but he was a boxer. Allow kicks, locks, and throws, and he would be in trouble. Punching only works at a certain range, and Bruce Lee was an excellent fighter when it came to using range to his advantage. Not to mention power - the strength of a punch comes from the momentum you give your fist. If you weigh twice as much, you *can* get twice as much momentum for a given speed. But if you punch twice as fast - you get the same result. I think Lee could probably make up any weight difference in sheer speed.

Lamune_Baba:weezbo:Pocket Ninja:That's all fine and good, but could the Enterprise defeat a Star Destroyer?

Possibly, but the Death Star beats the Enterprise hands down.


Assuming it gets a shot off. You've got a realtively immobile weapon's platform with a ridiculously long charge time (detectable by sensors) a visible "tell", and a firing dead-zone of approximately "the 3/4 of the sphere not directly infront of the dimpled part."

It depends what Enterprise, too. Kirk would just have everyone on the bridge lean real hard to the right and narrowly evade every shot. Picard would just park behind it. Janeway would get blow'd up because she'd be parked infront of the dangerous end trying to communicate.


And the trench run was just silly. Was it really necessary to fly in a straight line through a narrow groove for miles just to get to your target? It's not like it was a tunnel. You only need to dive in long enough to level out and take the shot. Way over there...


I think the premise was that the trench provided a relative amount of safety from the gun emplacements all over the surface. Wasn't there some dialogue about it in the 'mission briefing' scene?

The six million dollar man VS the demon guy from JeepersCreepers.

Wait, I have a question. Who is leading the armies of WoW and D&D.
I seem to remember making character sheets and not actually doing anything for 4 or 5 hours without some sort of supervision.

/I call Bruce Lee to lead the D&Ders

D&D. the WoW players would outsource their end of the fight to Chinese farmers using bots who would get beat down upon without even paying attention.

I think some of you watch too many kung-fu movies and it has negatively affected your ability to share in what the rest of us call "reality"

Do you think Lee's going to punch through Ali's chest and rip his still beating heart out as well?

Pocket Ninja:That's all fine and good, but could the Enterprise defeat a Star Destroyer?

I believe it could.

Star destroyers cannot modulate their temporal flux shield harmonics.

And once the Enterprise launches phase variant tacyion emitting torpeados, it's all over. Of course a little help from the Voyager couldn't hurt.

Who needs the Force, when you have 7 of 9?

churchill72:I think some of you watch too many kung-fu movies and it has negatively affected your ability to share in what the rest of us call "reality"

Do you think Lee's going to punch through Ali's chest and rip his still beating heart out as well?


Reality? Look... you're the one talking about ripping people's hearts out. Ali may have been a great boxer, but that's it... boxer. Boxers don't learn about kicking, grabs, throws or anything but punching.

Don't get punched by a boxer and you're fine.

churchill72:I think some of you watch too many kung-fu movies and it has negatively affected your ability to share in what the rest of us call "reality"
Do you think Lee's going to punch through Ali's chest and rip his still beating heart out as well?

No, we're just saying that Tyson in his prime would tear Ali a new one in the first minute of round 1.

Ditka vs. a hurricane


AH! But the name of the hurricane, is Hurricane Ditka!

Fark_me_while_running:cyrus_hunter:Nobody cares who would win your crazy imaginary fight between Anne Frank the Lizzy Borden!


/Better not be obscure.

God, we're gonna be the only ones with henchmen...


Epic sir, +92345 internets.

But -1 because it should have been "crazy fantasy fist-fight".

But yes. All my internets are belong to poster too.

Ditka should stick to Indy 500's.

voidkat:SCA would pwn Renn Faire, Renn would pwn Combat Sim LARP, Combat Sim LARP would pwn D&Ders, D&Ders would pwn Sci Fi LARP, Sci Fi LARP would pwn WoWsers, WoWsers would pwn Vampire LARPers, Vampire LARPers might pwn 'life-challenged' 4th graders - as long as they didn't come from South Park.

/If you take any of this seriously, you fail at life.

I'm taking that list very seriously. In fact, it's now the industry standard. Here, let's make it more readable:

1.SCA
2.Renn Faire
3.Combat Sim LARP
4.D&Ders
5.Sci Fi LARP
6.WoWsers
7.Vampire LARPers
8.'Life-challenged' 4th graders (non South Park)

Black Lagoon:Spork vs. Pudding.

More competitive than you'd think.

I can eat pudding with a fork. So I don't see how a spork is going to slow me down.

/I am very adapt at eating pudding :/

One Bad Apple:Nels:In a boxing match, Ali would crush Lee. He's bigger, has better technique, and is used to taking hard hits. Probably wouldn't take too long.

In an all-out fight, Lee would win hands down. Wouldn't take long at all.

I'm not trying to troll the Bruce Lee nut riders....but....Bruce was a movie star not a fighter. Even if he was he weighed 135 lbs at his heaviest.

When people write that, I immediately know that their knowledge of Bruce Lee and martial arts is extremely limited.

The fact that a lot of the UFC MMA guys of today still have him as a hero and influence should speak more to you than I ever could.

Indeed, Dana White, the head of the UFC, reckons, like a lot of modern day martial artists, that Bruce Lee was the forerunner to how people train and learn different MA skills today. He was just 3 decades ahead of his time.

Look at the intro to Enter the Dragon for evidence.

Bruce's one inch punch was a flashy example of "stand still while I hit you". Not all that useful if the guy doesn't let you hit him. It's bullshido, there's one born every minute

It was pretty much an exhibition skill. In reality he would have jabbed you in the eyes from a distance way before he could have gotten close to do the 1" punch.


In the ring. Ali.
Anywhere else. Lee.

daveydave:I'm taking that list very seriously. In fact, it's now the industry standard. Here, let's make it more readable:

1.SCA (Check)
2.Renn Faire (Check)
3.Combat Sim LARP (Check)
4.D&Ders (Check)
5.Sci Fi LARP
6.WoWsers (Check)
7.Vampire LARPers (Half-Check, I thought about it freshman year, but never actually went...)
8.'Life-challenged' 4th graders (non South Park)

Guess I should do ok in this Battle Royale.

/Where do Boy Scouts fit? They can get archery and BRM training at summer camp...and most of them carry knives.