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(iF Magazine)   Guillermo del Toro on directing the two-part "The Hobbit": ""We're going to have a break in the middle of filming, but I don't know how long that break is going to be"   (ifmagazine.com) divider line 29
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2008-07-09 03:44:26 PM
I can see from his past work, that these hobbit movies are going to be fairly awesome
 
2008-07-09 04:57:44 PM
At first I was one of the people who thought it would be a travesty to do this without Jackson, but now I kind of like the fact that he's doing it. They have very different styles, and we get two very creative and inventive visionaries and contrast their different views of Tolkiens world.
 
2008-07-09 04:57:54 PM
keiverarrow:I can see from his past work, that these hobbit movies are going to be fairly awesome

No way he can be faithful to the book and have it be interesting.

/slowest most boring fantasy read ever.
 
2008-07-09 04:59:44 PM
Lord_Dubu:No way he can be faithful to the book and have it be interesting.

/slowest most boring fantasy read ever.


I don't know.

If nothing else they will be very interesting visually. He even made Blade 2 interesting... Visually at least.
 
2008-07-09 05:00:34 PM
^^^ Jackson directing, I know he's still the producer.
 
2008-07-09 05:03:55 PM
A break during filming? Like a Bakshi-length break?
 
2008-07-09 05:13:45 PM
Guillermo del Toro is a better director than Peter Jackson. At least the monsters in his movies are/will be scary.
 
2008-07-09 05:18:53 PM
Lord_Dubu:No way he can be faithful to the book and have it be interesting.

/slowest most boring fantasy read ever.


I think you can be faithful without bowing to rabid fans that want to see the book recreated paragraph for paragraph on the big screen.

Fellowship is a great example of jumping right into the action and still staying faithful to the book. It was obviously different, but it still worked.

The key is getting the hell out of the Shire as quickly as possible. Once they start fighting trolls, goblins and giant spiders, along with all the other cool shiat in that book, they'll be in good shape.
 
2008-07-09 05:26:26 PM
The Hobbit is one of the few books I quit reading halfway through out of sheer boredom.
 
2008-07-09 05:26:32 PM
CowboyNinjaD:Lord_Dubu:No way he can be faithful to the book and have it be interesting.

/slowest most boring fantasy read ever.

I think you can be faithful without bowing to rabid fans that want to see the book recreated paragraph for paragraph on the big screen.

Fellowship is a great example of jumping right into the action and still staying faithful to the book. It was obviously different, but it still worked.

The key is getting the hell out of the Shire as quickly as possible. Once they start fighting trolls, goblins and giant spiders, along with all the other cool shiat in that book, they'll be in good shape.


I still want Dwarf plate cracking goodness.
 
2008-07-09 05:33:18 PM
There are people who think The Hobbit is boring?
Really?
You're the sort of people who find Cliff's Notes to complex, right?
 
2008-07-09 05:49:47 PM
It is boring. I've read much longer books so it isn't an attention span issue. Tolkien's imagination was great, but his prose needed serious pruning.
 
2008-07-09 05:50:34 PM
Rev. Skarekroe:There are people who think The Hobbit is boring?
Really?
You're the sort of people who find Cliff's Notes to complex, right?


The sort of people who find Cliff's Notes to complex what? Finish the verb!

Oh, wait! You meant "too". Hm. Impressive.

Just because people are bored by something doesn't mean they don't understand it. Really! Some are even avid readers!

And Tolkien? Boring. "Fellowship" was readable, and that's about it.
 
2008-07-09 05:54:03 PM
CowboyNinjaD

The key is getting the hell out of the Shire as quickly as possible. Once they start fighting trolls, goblins and giant spiders, along with all the other cool shiat in that book, they'll be in good shape.


It's been a LONG time since I've read The Hobbit, but don't they leave fairly quickly anyway? There's the business at Bag End (Bilbo sitting down to tea by himself and getting constantly interrupted until Gandalf and all the dwarves are there, and then recruiting him as a thief) and then the next morning he just runs to the Green Dragon to meet them and they leave the shire without anything else happening, right?
 
2008-07-09 06:46:11 PM
I rather enjoy Tolkien's prose. Or, at least, the style he uses in Lord of the Rings, Silmarillion, and the Hobbit. Suits the subject matter perfectly. If I wanted a bare bones "This happened and then that happened" book where the writing takes a back seat to narrative, I'd read a newspaper.

I'm looking at you, Dan Brown. The Da Vinci Code is a cheap knock-off of Foucault's Pendulum. Same material, badly written and for the ADD crowd.
 
2008-07-09 07:20:48 PM
Are they gonna keep the singing? That could probably go, and not be missed by most fans of the films.
 
2008-07-09 07:25:40 PM
mofomisfit:CowboyNinjaD

The key is getting the hell out of the Shire as quickly as possible. Once they start fighting trolls, goblins and giant spiders, along with all the other cool shiat in that book, they'll be in good shape.

It's been a LONG time since I've read The Hobbit, but don't they leave fairly quickly anyway? There's the business at Bag End (Bilbo sitting down to tea by himself and getting constantly interrupted until Gandalf and all the dwarves are there, and then recruiting him as a thief) and then the next morning he just runs to the Green Dragon to meet them and they leave the shire without anything else happening, right?


I guess I was refering more to LOTR, where it takes more than a hundred pages to get to any kind of real action. My point is that there's a lot of bullshiating around in all of Tolkien's stuff, the Hobbit included, that can easily be tossed aside in the interest of solid action-adventure story.
 
2008-07-09 07:50:55 PM
Sweet Chin Music:Are they gonna keep the singing? That could probably go, and not be missed by most fans of the films.

Drop the dishes, crack the plates, that's what Sweet Chin Music hates!
 
2008-07-09 08:39:36 PM
Sweet Chin Music:Are they gonna keep the singing? That could probably go, and not be missed by most fans of the films.

Shut. Your. Mouth.

If he makes The Hobbit without "Over the Misty Mountains Cold," or "Fifteen Birds in Five Fir Trees," blood will flow.

/down, down to goblin town
//you go, my lad
///HO HO, MY LAD!
 
2008-07-09 09:24:10 PM
At least we can look forward to entry ways that resemble vaginas. Guillermo seemed to like that look alot for Blade 2.

Be nice if there's a easter egg Hellboy cameo in the background too.
 
2008-07-09 09:29:52 PM
mofomisfit:CowboyNinjaD

The key is getting the hell out of the Shire as quickly as possible. Once they start fighting trolls, goblins and giant spiders, along with all the other cool shiat in that book, they'll be in good shape.

It's been a LONG time since I've read The Hobbit, but don't they leave fairly quickly anyway? There's the business at Bag End (Bilbo sitting down to tea by himself and getting constantly interrupted until Gandalf and all the dwarves are there, and then recruiting him as a thief) and then the next morning he just runs to the Green Dragon to meet them and they leave the shire without anything else happening, right?


Correct. There's a tea party, some beautiful music, and then it's out the door and off to face the dragon. And elves, can't forget the elves.

Del Toro just better remember to keep the music from the beginning of the book, there was nothing as enchanting and beautiful as that music, from what I remember.

/del Toro is going to have it tough, the animated Hobbit is considered pretty good, and he has to live up to it and more
 
2008-07-09 09:44:10 PM
I hope they devote 20 minutes having the camera just circling around a pretty tree.
 
2008-07-09 11:07:05 PM
great, another movie with monsters with eyes where they wouldn't normally be
 
2008-07-10 12:30:50 AM
AdolfOliverPanties:It is boring. I've read much longer books so it isn't an attention span issue. Tolkien's imagination was great, but his prose needed serious pruning.

I have no doubt you know the very best way to get EVERYWHERE but have never driven a car in your life.
 
2008-07-10 01:05:49 AM
Hellboy 2 kicked ass! Saw it last night at a preview screening and loved it. Thought it was better than the first one as a matter of fact. The bad guy isn't the black and white called up from central casting kind of bad guy. He had his reasons and his convictions for what he did...flawed or not.
 
2008-07-10 03:08:40 AM
AdolfOliverPanties:It is boring. I've read much longer books so it isn't an attention span issue. Tolkien's imagination was great, but his prose needed serious pruning.

It was a different time, back before MTV caused us all to have the attention span of a hummingbird.

/ooo.. shiny!
 
2008-07-10 04:23:27 AM
I like Tolkien's books but will admit that they did get rather tedious in certain points. The main part I remember being difficult to sustain was somewhere around the middle of "The Two Towers" There were about 40 different pages describing the area around Rohan where you could have swapped one page for another and not been able to tell the difference.

Otherwise, fantastic read.
 
2008-07-10 05:09:16 AM
Son of Thunder:Sweet Chin Music:Are they gonna keep the singing? That could probably go, and not be missed by most fans of the films.

Shut. Your. Mouth.

If he makes The Hobbit without "Over the Misty Mountains Cold," or "Fifteen Birds in Five Fir Trees," blood will flow.

/down, down to goblin town
//you go, my lad
///HO HO, MY LAD!


Hey, play nice. I said fans of the films, not the books. I think it would be kinda cool, but your more casual fans might be put off a bit.
 
2008-07-10 05:48:24 PM
I have total faith in DT's version of the Hobbit. Doubters and naysayers? Go see Pan's Labyrinth.

I am amazed at Fantasy fans who find Tolkien boring, but love recent fantasy. Modern fantasy novels are so overwritten and bloated, it's pathetic. Most are 150-250 page novels bloated into 700 page "sagas" with an option for two more to make it a trilogy. Ditto SF stuff, and, hell, most popular fiction. When I see novels clocking in at 700 pages I sigh in disappointment. Since when did pages filled with "this happened and then that happened" have any merit? To justify the $39.99 price tag?

BTW if you want a taste of a more adult version of the Hobbit, read Tolkien's revision of The Hobbit. He re-wrote and updated the prose and style, bringing it into line with LOTR. He gave up after the first three chapters when he realized he'd then have to re-write the whole book. He was always dissatisfied with the style of the Hobbit, but could never bring himself to the herculean task of re-writing it. Hell, it took him nearly 15 years to write LOTR, and he was still somewhat dissatisfied with that.

/i put on my robe and wizard hat
 
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