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2008-07-09 07:57:35 AM
i219.photobucket.com
 
2008-07-09 08:04:41 AM
That policeman made me laugh.
 
2008-07-09 08:07:57 AM
FTA: Ovetz believes he was a victim of "selective enforcement because of his political message and the policeman's own bias."

Guess what, Prof- despite what you think of yourself, you're just not that important.
 
2008-07-09 08:08:34 AM
"No To Empire"

Isn't it a bit late for that? I'd like a "Dear God, Our empire is crumbling. Please send help." sticker.
 
2008-07-09 08:12:16 AM
Maybe the dumb pig cop didn't understand the phrase.
 
2008-07-09 08:17:38 AM
img353.imageshack.us
 
2008-07-09 08:19:33 AM
Maybe Professor Ovetz doesn't want to dial 588-2300:

i18.photobucket.com
 
2008-07-09 08:22:53 AM
Nestea Plunge:Maybe the dumb pig cop didn't understand the phrase.

Keerist! Are you stuck in the farking 60's? Nobody calls the trusted ,heroic ,civil servants "pigs" anymore. Your revolution died in "68" dumbass.
 
2008-07-09 08:24:40 AM
What? This guy is just seeking attention and hash a persecution complex, as well as an inability to read law.

How is this guy a professor?

The CVC is plain as day on this:

26708. (a) (1) No person shall drive any motor vehicle with any object or material placed, displayed, installed, affixed, or applied upon the windshield or side or rear windows.

The article (or the press release put out by this guy on which the article is based) is straight misinformation: That ticket cited part of the vehicle code that prohibits driving a car if the "driver's clear vision" is "obstructed by snow or ice" on the car windows.

Code states:
(a) (1) No person shall drive any motor vehicle with any object or material placed, displayed, installed, affixed, or applied upon the windshield or side or rear windows.

(2) No person shall drive any motor vehicle with any object or material placed, displayed, installed, affixed, or applied in or upon the vehicle which obstructs or reduces the driver's clear view through the windshield or side windows.

(3) This subdivision applies to a person driving a motor vehicle with the driver's clear vision through the windshield, or side or rear windows, obstructed by snow or ice.


Section 3 means that it ALSO applies to snow or ice. It doesn't mean it ONLY applies to snow or ice.
 
2008-07-09 08:33:40 AM
Dogberry:FTA: Ovetz believes he was a victim of "selective enforcement because of his political message and the policeman's own bias."

Guess what, Prof- despite what you think of yourself, you're just not that important.


This. Bumper stickers belong on your bumper.

\"Help! Help! I'm being repressed!"
 
2008-07-09 08:40:58 AM
Cops is San Francisco have nothing better to do then pull over folks on a bullshiat "obstructed view" violation? No real criminals to catch, Barney Fife?

I could see if the whole or most of the window was covered with a opaque sticker of some sort, but it seems really petty to pull someone over because of a sticker on their rear window.

The Prof. sounds like a jackass, too, but he may have a point about why he was actually pulled over.
 
2008-07-09 08:51:11 AM
YES TO THE UMPIRE

www.missingsaddle.com
 
2008-07-09 08:53:28 AM
sepuku2:trusted ,heroic ,civil servants

BWAHAHAHAHA! I can't think of one other job where the ratio of perceived to actual value of said job is higher than that of a cop. I also haven't met many cops that don't have some serious power trips going on.
 
2008-07-09 08:53:50 AM
slobarnuts:Section 3 means that it ALSO applies to snow or ice. It doesn't mean it ONLY applies to snow or ice.

We also have that law here. You cannot drive with anything on your front or windshield, or anything hanging from your rearview. However, I see plenty of state parking stickers, state-issued handicap stickers, and college window stickers from state-run colleges.

This is selective enforcement. The law is only tenable if it IS selectively enforced.
 
2008-07-09 08:56:38 AM
palladiate:However, I see plenty of state parking stickers, state-issued handicap stickers, and college window stickers from state-run colleges.

California has exemptions for these... stickers of certain sizes are allowable.
 
2008-07-09 08:59:04 AM
I'm willing to bet this is the type of guy who has so many "bumper stickers" that they have become "bumper/fender/trunk lid/rear window stickers." He's already misconstrued the law as it was actually written, I'm going to say that he's also failed to mention that it wasn't just one sticker on his back window either.
 
2008-07-09 09:00:00 AM
keylock71:Cops is San Francisco have nothing better to do then pull over folks on a bullshiat "obstructed view" violation? No real criminals to catch, Barney Fife

Right - because the SFPD is such a small organization that the cops on patrol also have to solve all the murders, find all the kidnappers, and eat all the donuts.

This guy was *dying* to get pulled over to make a big deal out of nothing. Who puts a bumper sticker on their window?
 
2008-07-09 09:00:55 AM
Dear lord. Some of the people at UNC a few years ago could have been handed a mountain of tickets. It seemed like the student who "cared" about everything had to have a sticker showing support for everything from Tibet to Squirrel Nut Zippers. I never understood how you could spend so much time putting stickers on every inch of the back of your car.
 
2008-07-09 09:02:03 AM
palladiate:slobarnuts:Section 3 means that it ALSO applies to snow or ice. It doesn't mean it ONLY applies to snow or ice.

We also have that law here. You cannot drive with anything on your front or windshield, or anything hanging from your rearview. However, I see plenty of state parking stickers, state-issued handicap stickers, and college window stickers from state-run colleges.

This is selective enforcement. The law is only tenable if it IS selectively enforced.


I was thinking the same thing. Based on the wording of the law, I could get a ticket for having my car registration sticker on my windshield - which is, according to CT law, where it's supposed to be. I wonder if that cop is going to pull anyone over for having a college sticker on the back window. Every other car I see pretty much has one on the back window.

I'm thinking this was "selective" enforcement.
 
2008-07-09 09:03:20 AM
ThatGuyGreg:keylock71:Cops is San Francisco have nothing better to do then pull over folks on a bullshiat "obstructed view" violation? No real criminals to catch, Barney Fife

Right - because the SFPD is such a small organization that the cops on patrol also have to solve all the murders, find all the kidnappers, and eat all the donuts.

This guy was *dying* to get pulled over to make a big deal out of nothing. Who puts a bumper sticker on their window?


I had a breast cancer sticker on the back window of my last car.
 
2008-07-09 09:08:27 AM
People who put bumper stickers on their cars should be forcibly sterilized.

And any political bumper sticker you have on your car may as well say "Please Pigeonhole Me".

Idiots.
 
2008-07-09 09:09:01 AM
ThatGuyGreg:keylock71:Cops is San Francisco have nothing better to do then pull over folks on a bullshiat "obstructed view" violation? No real criminals to catch, Barney Fife

Right - because the SFPD is such a small organization that the cops on patrol also have to solve all the murders, find all the kidnappers, and eat all the donuts.

This guy was *dying* to get pulled over to make a big deal out of nothing. Who puts a bumper sticker on their window?


Oh, like I said, the Prof. sounds like a jackass, too... I've no doubt he was just itching to make a big deal out of this...

I've got a couple of stickers on the rear window in my van, and I've never been pulled over for 'em (never been pulled over for any reason actually), and I believe we have the obstructed view law here in MA.

Now, if this guy was also committing another traffic violation and gave the cop a boatload of grief, I could understand tacking on the obstructed view charge, but from the article at any rate, it seems like he was pulled over specifically for the sticker on his rear window, and like I said previously, unless we're talking about a sticker that takes up most of the window, it strikes me as a very petty reason to pull someone over... particularly in a large city like San Francisco.
 
2008-07-09 09:11:38 AM
keylock71:Now, if this guy was also committing another traffic violation and gave the cop a boatload of grief...

I'm betting that's the side of the story we aren't hearing.
 
2008-07-09 09:15:16 AM
Kyosuke:keylock71:Now, if this guy was also committing another traffic violation and gave the cop a boatload of grief...

I'm betting that's the side of the story we aren't hearing.


Could be. Also, maybe if he hadn't gone all aggro with the cop, he might have just gotten a warning to relocate the sticker... who knows?
 
2008-07-09 09:17:28 AM
keylock71:I've got a couple of stickers on the rear window in my van,

I believe vans may be specifically exempt, because vans are not even required to have rear windows. I know they were exempt from rear window obstruction laws in Jersey (where I used to drive a delivery van).
 
2008-07-09 09:23:06 AM
Has anyone ever done the math and determined if there is an actual formula where the number of bumper stickers on a vehicle is in inverse proportion to the value of the vehicle the stickers were attached to, and the relation of the number of stickers to the douchebagginess of the driver?
 
2008-07-09 09:28:42 AM
Came here to say the the prof is an asshat. See that has been covered.
 
2008-07-09 09:32:41 AM
Whamdangler:BWAHAHAHAHA! I can't think of one other job where the ratio of perceived to actual value of said job is higher than that of a cop. I also haven't met many cops that don't have some serious power trips going on.

I was being a little sarcastic there Whammy.
 
2008-07-09 09:38:00 AM
Add one more to the "prof is an asshat" column for me.
 
2008-07-09 09:49:43 AM
I got the same kind of ticket back in high school for a large band sticker; am I to assume I was singled out because the cop didn't like Sepultura?
 
2008-07-09 09:58:57 AM
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2008-07-09 10:07:07 AM
Whamdangler:keylock71:I've got a couple of stickers on the rear window in my van,

I believe vans may be specifically exempt, because vans are not even required to have rear windows. I know they were exempt from rear window obstruction laws in Jersey (where I used to drive a delivery van).



Good Point... The two rear windows are the only windows I have besides the front windshield and the driver and passenger side doors... my wife calls it the "Chevy Kidnapper".
 
2008-07-09 10:13:23 AM
slobarnuts:26708. (a) (1) No person shall drive any motor vehicle with any object or material placed, displayed, installed, affixed, or applied upon the windshield or side or rear windows.

So, no tinting?
 
2008-07-09 10:34:59 AM
sepuku2:I was being a little sarcastic there Whammy.

Oh. Hadn't had my coffee yet.
 
2008-07-09 10:42:22 AM
slobarnuts:26708. (a) (1) No person shall drive any motor vehicle with any object or material placed, displayed, installed, affixed, or applied upon the windshield or side or rear windows.

I realize that's Cali. code, but in Colorado, you are required by law to place your temporary registration tag (approx. 6" by 8") on the inside of the rear window.
 
2008-07-09 10:51:05 AM
Whamdangler:I realize that's Cali. code, but in Colorado, you are required by law to place your temporary registration tag (approx. 6" by 8") on the inside of the rear window.

There are certain exemptions in the law, no sticker greater than 7inches square (or 5 inches in the front window) is allowed for things like parking permits. This bumper sticker was 11inches so obviously still in violation.

Tint is allowed, but only up to a certain darkness (also specified in the same law).
 
2008-07-09 10:52:15 AM
Bumper Stickers: The answer to a question nobody asked.
 
2008-07-09 10:54:06 AM
slobarnuts:26708. (a) (1) No person shall drive any motor vehicle with any object or material placed, displayed, installed, affixed, or applied upon the windshield or side or rear windows.

I farking hate bumper stickers as much as anyone, but this law is an outrageous violation of people's freedom of speech. The provision regarding obstruction of view makes sense as a public policy. Prohibiting any and all objects on the window, on the other hand, is ridiculous.
 
2008-07-09 10:55:06 AM
i19.ebayimg.com
 
2008-07-09 10:56:11 AM
1) Without a picture, we can't make any guesses about blocked visibility.

2) We're hearing one side of the story. Could be additional information we are not aware of.

3) The police officer made no indication he was aware of a political message. Star Wars FTW.

4) Bumper stickers traditionally go on the bumper, not the window.
 
2008-07-09 10:56:38 AM
Sorry if this comes across a bit snide, but WHAT THE HELL DOES THAT STICKER MEAN?

I live east of the Mississippi, so rarely do things west of the Rockies affect us. But I am curious enough to ask at least.

Without a frame of reference, this story is not only without consequence, it looks really, really silly and makes me wonder how it ended up on Fark.
 
2008-07-09 10:57:01 AM
douchebag cops always pull people over for stuff hanging from a rear view mirror or stickers on windows, it's just what douchebag cops do to fulfill their quota of douchiness, it has nothing to do with this guy's political beliefs and everything to do with the douchebag cops ego tripping at tax payer expense. IMO...
 
2008-07-09 10:58:54 AM
slobarnuts:no sticker greater than 7inches square (or 5 inches in the front window) is allowed. So you can still use things like parking permits.


ftfm

And by 7 inches square, i mean it has to fit in an imaginary 7 inch square. I got this reading the law, so it's my interpretation of it, but it's pretty clear.
 
2008-07-09 10:59:32 AM
Nestea Plunge:Maybe the dumb pig cop didn't understand the phrase.

Maybe you're a moron. Oh, wait, there's no "maybe" about it.
 
2008-07-09 10:59:40 AM
cxjohn:Without a frame of reference, this story is not only without consequence, it looks really, really silly and makes me wonder how it ended up on Fark.

img.fark.net
 
2008-07-09 11:01:08 AM
Headso:douchebag cops always pull people over for stuff hanging from a rear view mirror or stickers on windows, it's just what douchebag cops do to fulfill their quota of douchiness, it has nothing to do with this guy's political beliefs and everything to do with the douchebag cops ego tripping at tax payer expense. IMO...

Right. I don't put bumper stickers on MY cars anyway, because I need my cars to be as inconspicuous as possible.
 
2008-07-09 11:01:28 AM
sigdiamond2000:People who put bumper stickers on their cars should be forcibly sterilized.

And any political bumper sticker you have on your car may as well say "Please Pigeonhole Me".

Idiots.


Wow. You must be a blast at parties.

You know who else wanted something as serious as forced sterilization for mind-numbingly trivial reasons?

/my balls
//not yours
 
2008-07-09 11:01:36 AM
keylock71:Now, if this guy was also committing another traffic violation and gave the cop a boatload of grief, I could understand tacking on the obstructed view charge, but from the article at any rate, it seems like he was pulled over specifically for the sticker on his rear window,

Oh come on. Use your noggin for a second here. It's farking San Francisco! The guy would have to pull over every car in the city. Hell, there are probably 50,000 or so bumper stickers in that city which specifically insult the cops, let alone some nebulous "empire."

LocalCynic:I farking hate bumper stickers as much as anyone, but this law is an outrageous violation of people's freedom of speech. The provision regarding obstruction of view makes sense as a public policy. Prohibiting any and all objects on the window, on the other hand, is ridiculous.

I'm sorry, Wonder Woman, but that's what the law says. If your vehicle happens to be 100% window there's really nothing we can do.
 
2008-07-09 11:01:38 AM
Megain:unavailable for comment:



I think I found the owner of that car:

entimg.msn.com
 
2008-07-09 11:02:08 AM

I don't know how the cop couldn't let this slide after Alderaan.

NEVAR FORGET!!!
 
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