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2008-07-08 01:59:52 PM
DROxINxTHExWIND:the only two jackasses who have ever gotten me angry on Fark.

Damn, I'm hurt;)
 
2008-07-08 02:01:06 PM
This is why streisations should be free for anyone that wants them.
 
2008-07-08 02:01:14 PM
jso2897:Christian Republican Gun Slinger:Interesting. The majority of people here are "pro choice", and yet you have a problem with a mom aborting a baby herself. Hypocrisy at it's best.

You're the third or fourth troll to drop that particular bait - I don't think anybody's taking it today. try something different. I hear they're biting over in the McCain/Obama threads.


Why don't you look at my previous post. I already explained this once.
 
2008-07-08 02:01:33 PM
Not defending what she did, but note that Florida's safe surrender law requires that a "diligent" search be made for the other, non-surrendering parent. It doesn't go far enough in protect the surrendering parent's identity... in other words, surrendering a child invites an intrusive hassle, undermining the very reason for the law.

See this ACLU link (new window)

Even Texas isn't this stupid.
 
2008-07-08 02:05:53 PM
Who in the name of God would have impregnated that????
 
2008-07-08 02:08:22 PM
Orange Guy-Who in the name of God would have impregnated that????

Meh, bag the face and 50% of Fark would.
 
2008-07-08 02:09:26 PM
DROxINxTHExWIND:FLMountainMan:nopokerface:Daffydil:FLMountainMan-Honestly, plenty of white teens have done this same thing. It's more of a poor/young thing than any racial/cultural thing.

Agreed

I actually guessed it would be 15-20 year old white chick. Shame on me.

The funny thing is in the next thread up, I'm called "Fark's resident Grand Dragon"? I guess I'm getting soft.
===============================

Between you and MCStymie, I can't figure out who went softer. :-)


/the only two jackasses who have ever gotten me angry on Fark.
//worthy adversaries


I embraced diversity as a result of State-mandated physical torture and indoctrination, as well as the threat of lawsuits from Black analysts with 85 IQs and behavior so stereotypical it would make Snoop Dogg weep with shame a need to better understand all my neighbors. Every one of them is completely equal to me in every way even if they butcher English, have ten kids they can't feed, smoke crack, and steal welfare, and I have learned under threat of death by electric chair that their lifestyles are completely, utterly, valid.

/Or, I could have merely come to the conclusion that teaching a duck Calculus is wasted effort, and pisses off the duck, y'know?
//To your credit, you are the only person who ever caused me to stay late at work just to keep a fight going.
 
2008-07-08 02:10:17 PM
jst3p:FLMountainMan:nopokerface:Daffydil:FLMountainMan-Honestly, plenty of white teens have done this same thing. It's more of a poor/young thing than any racial/cultural thing.

Agreed

I actually guessed it would be 15-20 year old white chick. Shame on me.

The funny thing is in the next thread up, I'm called "Fark's resident Grand Dragon"? I guess I'm getting soft.

If you were called that by Dro I wouldn't sweat it, he is the biggest racist I have seen posting on fark, aside from the trolls.

=================================

Meh, my best friend since the 4th grade is bi-racial and I call his white mother "Ma". She helped raise me.

/the more you know
//I'm too intelligent to hold all white people accountable for the bigotry of others.
///too bad many of you don't have that ability when it comes to minorities.
 
2008-07-08 02:11:15 PM
Digital Mermaid:As someone who would love to adopt but faces an eight year waiting list, this shiat just pisses me off so badly. There are so many people like me who would do just about anything to adopt. Why do these people not just give up their child for adoption?


I don't know... Why don't you adopt a kid instead of a baby and help with the 13 year waiting list (you know, until they turn 18) at your local, state-funded orphanage? Or is that not part of the whole "just about anything to adopt" deal?

Not trying to be a dick, even though I succeeded, but 8 years waiting to adopt is kind of ridiculous when a ton of kids (kids who actually know the difference) are wishing for a home and a set of "loving parents" right this very second...


/Just sayin'...
 
2008-07-08 02:13:59 PM
MuffDiver:Children don't get made by accident. There's a process one must undergo. If you can't handle the output, please do not initiate the process. That is all.

output = bacon?
 
2008-07-08 02:14:00 PM
Daffydil:dittybopper

I sorry for what happened and am glad all is well.



Don't.

The "nice" thing about most forms of thyroid cancer (including the one my wife had) is that it's treated by removal of the thyroid, a dose of radioactive Iodine to kill the remaining thyroid cells, and by taking Levothyroxin (Synthroid) to replace the thyroid hormones. No chemo, and no extended radiation treatments, although you do have to go on a low iodine diet before the I-131 treatment, which my wife *HATED*.

On balance, I'd say we were lucky there, too.
 
2008-07-08 02:14:47 PM
Ooops, I meant "Don't be", ie., don't be sorry.
 
2008-07-08 02:15:42 PM
TraeHova: 8 years waiting to adopt is kind of ridiculous when a ton of kids (kids who actually know the difference) are wishing for a home and a set of "loving parents" right this very second...


I almost said this. I left to do the dishes, came back to say it and you had beaten me to it.

There are millions of kids that need loving parents, but never get them because prospective parents want a baby...

/If I were ever to adopt, I'd get one that's out of diapers already.
 
2008-07-08 02:24:13 PM
Do you know who else had a black baby? Barack Obama.
 
2008-07-08 02:24:28 PM
TraeHova:Digital Mermaid:As someone who would love to adopt but faces an eight year waiting list, this shiat just pisses me off so badly. There are so many people like me who would do just about anything to adopt. Why do these people not just give up their child for adoption?


I don't know... Why don't you adopt a kid instead of a baby and help with the 13 year waiting list (you know, until they turn 18) at your local, state-funded orphanage? Or is that not part of the whole "just about anything to adopt" deal?

Not trying to be a dick, even though I succeeded, but 8 years waiting to adopt is kind of ridiculous when a ton of kids (kids who actually know the difference) are wishing for a home and a set of "loving parents" right this very second...


/Just sayin'...


You could make the same argument about adopting a child with a special need; more or less instant adoption. And to that I have the same answer; I'm not a good/strong enough person.

If I could have kids, and one of them were disabled in some way, I would like to think that I could handle it. Though, growing up two of my friends were disabled; one has muscular dystrophy and the other had a hole in his heart. I saw what their parents went through and I can not tell you how strong they are. I just don't think I have the strength to match; certainly not the courage to willingly get into that situation.

As for older children, truth be told I have thought of it. One of my friends now has a daughter who looks up to me but also has some emotional troubles. I've been asked that, should something happen, to take care of her; and I would in a heartbeat. Again though; seeing how difficult it is and knowing how rough some of these kids of had it and how it affects them, I don't know if I have the strength to willingly get into that situation.

Maybe that means I am simply not fit to be a parent. *shrug*

/At 30yo, it's looking like it's not going to happen anyway, so there you go.
 
2008-07-08 02:25:15 PM
Christian Republican Gun Slinger:hairywoogit:Christian Republican Gun Slinger:

Have your sarcasm meter re-calibrated ASAP.

Aw fark, it's broken AGAIN!
/sigh

Yeah, there's NO way in hell I'd condone this type of action. Just a FYI, I'm pro-choice. Yeah, a Republican that's a Christian.... that loves guns.... wants people to be able to do what they want to their own bodies. I've been told I'm a paradox.

I'm sure this coont will not be in general population. That would be too easy, but hey... a man can dream.



A "Christian" using the c-word to degrade a woman? There's your paradox, jackass.
 
2008-07-08 02:26:28 PM
DROxINxTHExWIND:jst3p:FLMountainMan:nopokerface:Daffydil:FLMountainMan-Honest ly, plenty of white teens have done this same thing. It's more of a poor/young thing than any racial/cultural thing.

Agreed

I actually guessed it would be 15-20 year old white chick. Shame on me.

The funny thing is in the next thread up, I'm called "Fark's resident Grand Dragon"? I guess I'm getting soft.

If you were called that by Dro I wouldn't sweat it, he is the biggest racist I have seen posting on fark, aside from the trolls.
=================================

Meh, my best friend since the 4th grade is bi-racial and I call his white mother "Ma". She helped raise me.

/the more you know
//I'm too intelligent to hold all white people accountable for the bigotry of others.
///too bad many of you don't have that ability when it comes to minorities.


Nice
 
2008-07-08 02:28:45 PM
200 comments and no-one asked about the "father" of this thrown-away child.
 
2008-07-08 02:29:00 PM
I am all for the promotion of optional sterilization of males in low income welfare-state communities ( regardless of enthnicity --- if you can't take care of yourself, you should'nt have kids ).

I'm glad that Morant is not going to raise this kid, she probably would have named it Kevorkian, Gonorrhea, Listerine ( actual names of underprivileged kids in the Louisiana school system ) or some other godawful random-letters-picked-out-of-the-alphebet-at-random name. I would say that the kid now has a chance at life, but they gave the child to one of her friends. Out of the frying pan, and into the other frying pan.

/ feeling the hatred today
// I hope she never breeds again
/// hatred slashies
 
2008-07-08 02:30:20 PM
what the cat dragged in:Not defending what she did, but note that Florida's safe surrender law requires that a "diligent" search be made for the other, non-surrendering parent. It doesn't go far enough in protect the surrendering parent's identity... in other words, surrendering a child invites an intrusive hassle, undermining the very reason for the law.

See this ACLU link (new window)

Even Texas isn't this stupid.


I have to tell you, some of the ACLU's suggested requirements are pretty stupid.

First, in NYS the Safe Haven Act provides an affirmative defense against child abandonment, whereas the ACLU thinks it should provide immunity from prosecution. An affirmative defense is enough, I think. Think of it like self-defense: That's an affirmative defense against murder/manslaughter charges, but it doesn't grant you immunity.

The requirement for domestic violence screening is almost *LAUGHABLE*, if it wasn't sad. Here a woman is coming to you anonymously, and you want to make her visit a matter of public record, including having to give her name and have a police investigation? What happens if she refuses? Do they charge her with obstructing justice? Or will it just be the kind of thing that keeps young mothers from dropping off their newborns?

As for Florida's requirement for a "dilligent" search, it doesn't require the surrendering parent give *ANY* identifying information. Basically, I think it's boilerplate language to insure that the proper legal notices get put in the paper for Abandonment/TPR hearings and such.
 
2008-07-08 02:31:07 PM
FLMountainMan: WTF is wrong with this country where the white liberal elite tries to save everybody else from themselves?


As opposed to someone like you who's a member of the impoverished minority community?


img148.imageshack.us
 
2008-07-08 02:33:23 PM
DROxINxTHExWIND:jst3p:FLMountainMan:nopokerface:Daffydil:FLMountainMan-Honest ly, plenty of white teens have done this same thing. It's more of a poor/young thing than any racial/cultural thing.

Agreed

I actually guessed it would be 15-20 year old white chick. Shame on me.

The funny thing is in the next thread up, I'm called "Fark's resident Grand Dragon"? I guess I'm getting soft.

If you were called that by Dro I wouldn't sweat it, he is the biggest racist I have seen posting on fark, aside from the trolls.
=================================

Meh, my best friend since the 4th grade is bi-racial and I call his white mother "Ma". She helped raise me.

/the more you know
//I'm too intelligent to hold all white people accountable for the bigotry of others.
///too bad many of you don't have that ability when it comes to minorities.


Well, I have lots of black friends, so I'm getting a kick out of your replies.....

/Actually, I have a few
//Attend an all-black (except for me and a few white wives/girlfriends) church
///Still a little racist, and freely admit it.
 
2008-07-08 02:34:44 PM
Juan_Kerr:200 comments and no-one asked about the "father" of this thrown-away child.

img187.imageshack.us
Here he is...
 
2008-07-08 02:35:48 PM
Christian Republican Gun Slinger:hairywoogit:Christian Republican Gun Slinger:

Yeah, there's NO way in hell I'd condone this type of action. Just a FYI, I'm pro-choice. Yeah, a Republican that's a Christian.... that loves guns.... wants people to be able to do what they want to their own bodies. I've been told I'm a paradox.

I'm sure this coont will not be in general population. That would be too easy, but hey... a man can dream.


Actually, I find party affiliation to be unreliable overall, as to matters of belief. While I am not much for religion myself, I do very much respect a deeply held internal belief that causes a person to do as much good for society as they can. My only real knee-jerk over the top response is to hypocrites. And while I am absolutely pro-choice myself (and some times, pro-abortion), I try very very hard to understand WHY people do what they do.

FTFA, it seems that she is an illegal from an area of the world that has significantly devalued human life, especially children. And in times of desperation, people often do utterly vile things.

Not that any of this qualifies as an excuse... child to a family that will take care of it, insane biatch off my beloved country's soil. Hopefully sterilized.

/puts prayer beads back on
//tries VERY hard to regain compassion for someone who lost heart and soul
 
2008-07-08 02:38:45 PM
ramathorn83:Do you know who else had a black baby? Barack Obama.

Actually, his wife did, but there's no need to split hairs. Gotta admit that would really help him reach the "divine savior" image, though.

By the by, DRO, I'm not under threat of lawsuit, was merely being a smartass.

/Still not a bigot (never was), but I am culturist.
 
2008-07-08 02:38:55 PM
ramathorn83:"Floyd's Abortion Clinic: You rape 'em, we scrape 'em. No fetus can beat usdefeat us."

TFTFY
 
2008-07-08 02:42:22 PM
www.theonion.com

Came here looking for this, but apparently I have to satisfy myself..


/as usual
//The Onion is awesome
///oh yeah, window seat, please..
 
2008-07-08 02:45:50 PM
Juan_Kerr:200 comments and no-one asked about the "father" of this thrown-away child.


"...and what's the one song about daddy? 'Poppa Was a Rolling Stone'!"
~Chris Rock
 
2008-07-08 02:47:28 PM
Ravynia:TraeHova: 8 years waiting to adopt is kind of ridiculous when a ton of kids (kids who actually know the difference) are wishing for a home and a set of "loving parents" right this very second...


I almost said this. I left to do the dishes, came back to say it and you had beaten me to it.

There are millions of kids that need loving parents, but never get them because prospective parents want a baby...

/If I were ever to adopt, I'd get one that's out of diapers already.


No, you wouldn't.

Most prospective adoptive parents want a newborn because they haven't been abused, neglected, or have FASD or other problems.

You see, almost every non-infant that gets put up for adoption* have some serious baggage. Almost always, they become freed for adoption after years of abuse or neglect at home, followed by foster care. They carry *SERIOUS* emotional baggage, with all the attachment disorders and misbehaviors that are implied.

Either that, or they are "special needs" children who have developmental disorders, FASD (Fetal Alcohol Spectrum Disorders), or serious birth defects.

Go ahead and look. Here is the current NYS adoption photolisting. Out of 513 kids age 0 to 18 ready for adoption, only 10 of them don't have special needs or legal problems*, and they are all older than 11.

I'll grant that maybe a few kids get thrown a really bad curve: Their parent(s) die, and the don't have any relatives that can take care of them. That is a *TINY* fraction though.

The reason that there are tons of kids ready to be adopted is because for the most part, they are "damaged goods".

*And a significant fraction of the infants, for that matter

**In NYS, that means PINS (Person In Need of Supervision), or an adjudicated juvenile deliquent. In DSS shorthand, "JD/PINS".
 
2008-07-08 02:47:50 PM
At least it was only one kid. More, and she'd be a litter bug.
 
2008-07-08 02:47:52 PM
cubsfan07:FLMountainMan: WTF is wrong with this country where the white liberal elite tries to save everybody else from themselves?


As opposed to someone like you who's a member of the impoverished minority community?


No, but I am not liberal or the elite.
Hey, there's a Florida-bashing thread a few threads up that needs some whining. Might want to waddle your fatass up there ;)
 
2008-07-08 02:48:05 PM
MCStymie:ramathorn83:Do you know who else had a black baby? Barack Obama.

Actually, his wife did, but there's no need to split hairs. Gotta admit that would really help him reach the "divine savior" image, though.

By the by, DRO, I'm not under threat of lawsuit, was merely being a smartass.

/Still not a bigot (never was), but I am culturist.

==============================================

Being a smartass? You? Naw.

And changing the word does not change the mindset.

/I'm not a pedophile. I'm a child penetrationalist
 
2008-07-08 02:48:52 PM
lost cause:DROxINxTHExWIND:How predictable of you all.

Tell me you didn't guess her race before you clicked on the link.


If we're gonna talk stupid meaningless generalizations, the stereotype for this kind of thing is the middle-to-upper-class white girl with a good reputation and a lot to lose.
 
2008-07-08 02:48:53 PM
Juan_Kerr:200 comments and no-one asked about the "father" of this thrown-away child.

this is Fark

we all know who the father is
 
2008-07-08 02:50:34 PM
DROxINxTHExWIND:MCStymie:ramathorn83:Do you know who else had a black baby? Barack Obama.

Actually, his wife did, but there's no need to split hairs. Gotta admit that would really help him reach the "divine savior" image, though.

By the by, DRO, I'm not under threat of lawsuit, was merely being a smartass.

/Still not a bigot (never was), but I am culturist.
==============================================

Being a smartass? You? Naw.

And changing the word does not change the mindset.

/I'm not a pedophile. I'm a child penetrationalist


*facepalm*

Just make sure you hide the evidence. Sheesh, you people will put the stones to anything, won't ya?

/*grin*
 
2008-07-08 02:51:02 PM
medius:
this is Fark

we all know who the father is



Anakin Skywalker?
 
2008-07-08 02:52:55 PM
FLMountainMan:Hey, there's a Florida-bashing thread a few threads up that needs some whining. Might want to waddle your fatass up there ;)


What do you think this thread is?


/you say that as if there are threads that don't bash Florida
//there's a reason your precious state has its own Fark tag
 
2008-07-08 02:53:04 PM
half-mad-genius:People who support abortion shouldn't have a problem with this. The mom's killing the kid either way; it was just done a few months later than a standard abortion in this case.


There is a vast difference between a indistinct mass of cells and a living breathing human capable of feeling pain.


the majority of abortions are performed when the fetus is more than "an indistinct mass of cells". try doing a GIS for 7 week fetus.
 
2008-07-08 02:59:33 PM
dittybopper-Ooops, I meant "Don't be", ie., don't be sorry. lolz...I understood.

Nice pic FLMountainMan.
 
2008-07-08 03:10:31 PM
cubsfan07:FLMountainMan:Hey, there's a Florida-bashing thread a few threads up that needs some whining. Might want to waddle your fatass up there ;)


What do you think this thread is?


/you say that as if there are threads that don't bash Florida
//there's a reason your precious state has its own Fark tag


You live here too, for years, IIRC. And still whine about it all the time, like some powerless kid. If you don't like it, move.

Daffydil:dittybopper-Ooops, I meant "Don't be", ie., don't be sorry. lolz...I understood.

Nice pic FLMountainMan.


I think he thinks the same thing. He went to a lot of work editing the original.
 
2008-07-08 03:16:18 PM
Gatherer S. Thompson:Christian Republican Gun Slinger:hairywoogit:Christian Republican Gun Slinger:

Have your sarcasm meter re-calibrated ASAP.

Aw fark, it's broken AGAIN!
/sigh

I'm sure this coont will not be in general population. That would be too easy, but hey... a man can dream.

A "Christian" using the c-word to degrade a woman? There's your paradox, jackass.


FAIL. Coont and "the c-word" are not in the bible. No commandments stating, "Thou shalt not call yon worthless, pathetic scum bag a coont." Nothing along those lines. Nope. Nuh-uh. So technically, he/she/it is still ok to use it "degrade" the coont.
 
2008-07-08 03:17:22 PM
web1diva:


the majority of abortions are performed when the fetus is more than "an indistinct mass of cells". try doing a GIS for 7 week fetus.


Your statement is useless without any statistics. Most of the abortions occur during the first 2 trimesters and only 1.4% abortions occur in the last trimester.

At 7 weeks, just because it LOOKs like human does not mean it can survive outside the human body if you give birth at that stage. here is a reason a pregnancy lasts for 9 months because a baby does not assume full anatomical functions upto 32 weeks. Even at 32 weeks the survival rate is 75%. A baby's survival rate if born at 24 weeks is 25% or less. So shut the fark up if you are not educated enough to talk about things which clearly are beyond your level of understanding.
 
2008-07-08 03:18:25 PM
Hawnkee:Gatherer S. Thompson:Christian Republican Gun Slinger:hairywoogit:Christian Republican Gun Slinger:

Have your sarcasm meter re-calibrated ASAP.

Aw fark, it's broken AGAIN!
/sigh

I'm sure this coont will not be in general population. That would be too easy, but hey... a man can dream.

A "Christian" using the c-word to degrade a woman? There's your paradox, jackass.

FAIL. Coont and "the c-word" are not in the bible. No commandments stating, "Thou shalt not call yon worthless, pathetic scum bag a coont." Nothing along those lines. Nope. Nuh-uh. So technically, he/she/it is still ok to use it "degrade" the coont.


What about the general themes of "Love your neighbor", "judge not", "pay attention to the beam in your own eye..." and so forth that Jesus himself taught?
 
2008-07-08 03:19:24 PM
lost cause:DROxINxTHExWIND:How predictable of you all.

Tell me you didn't guess her race before you clicked on the link.



Soooo.... you knew what you would see here, but went here anyway to say that you knew what you would see here?
 
2008-07-08 03:22:28 PM
web1diva:half-mad-genius:People who support abortion shouldn't have a problem with this. The mom's killing the kid either way; it was just done a few months later than a standard abortion in this case.


There is a vast difference between a indistinct mass of cells and a living breathing human capable of feeling pain.


the majority of abortions are performed when the fetus is more than "an indistinct mass of cells". try doing a GIS for 7 week fetus.


Except at 7 weeks it's in the embryonic stage. The fetal stage starts at week 11.
 
2008-07-08 03:24:27 PM
FLMountainMan:You live here too, for years, IIRC. And still whine about it all the time, like some powerless kid. If you don't like it, move.


I'm in the process of selling my house, and already have several homes picked to choose from back up north. So don't worry, I'll be gone soon. Then you and your baby-disposing Haitian girlfriend will live happily ever after.


I think he thinks the same thing. He went to a lot of work editing the original.

Yeah, cropping and resizing in MSPaint is a lot of work. *eye roll*
 
2008-07-08 03:24:40 PM
what the cat dragged in:Not defending what she did, but note that Florida's safe surrender law requires that a "diligent" search be made for the other, non-surrendering parent. It doesn't go far enough in protect the surrendering parent's identity... in other words, surrendering a child invites an intrusive hassle, undermining the very reason for the law.

See this ACLU link (new window)

Even Texas isn't this stupid.


Representin' Texas here...Be assured, it's that stupid.
 
2008-07-08 03:24:44 PM
I honestly fail to see the problem here. I mean, it's just a really late-term abortion, right? Come ON! That this piece of protoplasm exited from the birth canal is just a technicality. It was still helpless and could not survive on it's own, so I really see no difference.
 
2008-07-08 03:27:32 PM
I guess it would be wrong for me to wish her mother had the same idea?
 
2008-07-08 03:29:14 PM
Juan_Kerr:200 comments and no-one asked about the "father" of this thrown-away child.

I'm swell...thanks for asking !
 
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