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2008-07-02 10:41:19 AM
The steak sauce hate is uncalled for. Also Heinz 57 > A1, but they are both > nothing.
 
2008-07-02 10:42:10 AM
mequickwantslow:Maybe it's the sheer fact that something dying to fill my stomach is a sickeningly selfish thought to me. I can survive just fine on a vegan diet, and be healthier for doing so. It's not a matter of denying myself of enjoyment, it's my own personal morals and conscience that keep me from eating meat.

Listen. Work with this.

Our whole existence centers around the fact that someone or something has to die for our needs. The second we are born, our lives have already consumed millions of little individual sacred lives.

The shoes you wear? The petrochemicals have killed fish.

The house you live in? The building company killed a shiat ton of ants and bugs to build the foundation. The trees used in its construction murdered hundreds of birds who used them as a home.

The veggies you eat? Some animal starved because the land it was grown on used to be its habitat.

Oil in your car? Used to be some dead animal who got compressed over millions of years.

The fact is, our whole entire existence centers around the death of other sentient creatures. People can go and try to be moral about the worth of living, but really, its quite pointless.

Just being the devils advocate is all.
 
2008-07-02 10:45:56 AM
DBuck:Steak Ribeye (cooked over oak that has soaked in Jack Daniel's)
Medium Rare
Melted Butter


Ooh, you just reminded me, roasted garlic butter (popping goodness) is another acceptable topping for steak, IMO. You melt a scoop over the steak, and it's farking fantastic.
 
2008-07-02 10:47:30 AM
Hey people.

No mention of garlic?

Fresh garlic smeared on before cooking? Or thinly sliced garlic under the bacon wrapped around a nice rare steak.

Where's the love for garlic?
 
2008-07-02 10:50:29 AM
mequickwantslow:
Maybe it's the sheer fact that something dying to fill my stomach is a sickeningly selfish thought to me. I can survive just fine on a vegan diet, and be healthier for doing so.


Actually, no you can't, not without causing global warming.

You see, your vegan diet means that you *NEED* foodstuffs to be imported to you from around the World. There is no environment on Earth where you can survive long-term on just the fruits, vegetables, nuts, and tubers available in that environment.

Putting that aside, you need modern science to provide you with nutrients you just can't get from your diet.

By the way, the reverse *ISN'T* true: The Inuit lived healthy lives eating mostly meat. During the long winters, their diet was almost exclusively from animal sources.

You evolved over millions of years to be an omnivore. You are fighting evolution just the same as a Fundy does.
 
2008-07-02 10:51:13 AM
kab:EvilEgg:I am always amazed at steak snobs. You know why A-1 is so popular? Because people think it tastes good.

Now along comes Mister Steak-Snob saying you don't know what tastes good, only I know. What the fark makes you the expert?

A-1 is great for a poor cut of steak, no question.

But putting sauce on a fine cut of meat defeats the purpose of going to the trouble and expense of said steak, end of story. Just like cooking said steak past medium-rare. Just like drinking really good coffee in any other state than black. Just like putting ice in a nice single malt. Criminal, I say.

So yeah, we know better than you. :)


I could not agree with you more. The well-done steak with A-1 phenomenon is a result of marketing and fear of contaminated meat. Save the burning of beef for chopped steak at Golden Corral or for hamburgers elsewhere. Some steer gave its life for that fillet, so have some respect. Hell, for a good cut, I often don't use any seasoning at all.

I have been forced to cook fillets to well done (guests who provided the steaks for everyone -- nice ones, too) and then to watch the A-1 bath that followed. They even gave me shiat for eating my steak "raw" (it was medium rare). I don't let them bring steaks anymore. If they want to come over for a cookout, it's hamburgers and hotdogs.

/Try a flat iron steak -- cheap, tender, and tasty.
//7 1/2 min. per side on direct medium heat (Weber gas grill, YMMV).
 
2008-07-02 10:53:41 AM
voodoohotdog:Fresh garlic smeared on before cooking? Or thinly sliced garlic under the bacon wrapped around a nice rare steak.

Seconded.

Nothing in the world better than a good garlic steak.

/well, nothing better that you can eat anyway
//Selma Hayek is probably better than garlic steak
//wait a second...
 
2008-07-02 10:55:47 AM
Dynascape:
Listen. Work with this.

Our whole existence centers around the fact that someone or something has to die for our needs. The second we are born, our lives have already consumed millions of little individual sacred lives.

The shoes you wear? The petrochemicals have killed fish.

The house you live in? The building company killed a shiat ton of ants and bugs to build the foundation. The trees used in its construction murdered hundreds of birds who used them as a home.

The veggies you eat? Some animal starved because the land it was grown on used to be its habitat.

Oil in your car? Used to be some dead animal who got compressed over millions of years.

The fact is, our whole entire existence centers around the death of other sentient creatures. People can go and try to be moral about the worth of living, but really, its quite pointless.

Just being the devils advocate is all.



I agree with this, but to be the other devil's advocate - as long as you're causing suffering, why not take steps to minimize the suffering you cause. Yeah, vegetarians aren't "guilt-free" as some of them proclaim, but you can at least make a choice not to support some of the more outrageous uses of animals, like cosmetic testing or keeping/slaughtering them in a way that maximizes pain
 
2008-07-02 10:57:08 AM
Dynascape:Didnt Freud have some problem about people who resist their urges?

People dont want to eat meat, have sex, smoke, drink, drive fast, sleep late on saturdays, and a whole host of morality-induced restrictions.

Really, why do people try to make themselves so chaste to the point that life is really nothing more than one giant urge to resist enjoyment?

Go out and eat that big slab of bacon. Drink a bottle of wine, get laid, and smoke a cigarette afterwards.

I think people have forgotten what pleasure and fun is these days.

Its like we've putting a metal vice on the collective balls of humanity.

I say its time to get our balls back.


To arms!!!
BACON! BACON! BACON!
 
2008-07-02 11:00:21 AM
manimal2878
Vitamin B12 says you should shut up.

Vegetarians and their crazy brethren vegans get their B12 from the same place meat eaters do: bacteria. Animals don't make it, plants don't make it. Only bacteria can synthesize it.
 
2008-07-02 11:00:57 AM
mequickwantslow:
That having been said, I love wine


I'm sure that you are extremely careful in your wine selection, since the vast majority of them use things like gelatin, egg whites, bone char, isinglass, or other animal products in the 'fining' process.

You *DID* know that, right?
 
2008-07-02 11:02:20 AM
Suicidal Writer:For the sake of love of purity, the Bodhisattva should refrain from eating flesh, which is born of semen, blood, etc. For fear of causing terror to living beings let the Bodhisattva, who is disciplining himself to attain compassion, refrain from eating flesh... It is not true that meat is proper food and permissible when the animal was not killed by himself, when he did not order others to kill it, when it was not specially meant for him. Again, there may be some people in the future who ... being under the influence of the taste for meat will string together in various ways sophistic arguments to defend meat eating. But... meat eating in any form, in any manner, and in any place is unconditionally and once for all prohibited... Meat eating I have not permitted to anyone, I do not permit, I will not permit.
- Lankavatara Sutra


"The butcher does not relent at the bleating of the lamb; neither is the heart of the cruel moved with distress. But the tears of the compassionate are sweeter than dew-drops, falling from roses on the bosom of spring."

-Amenohis IV aka Akhenaton ("servant of the one, true god"), the Heretic King (1380 - 1362 BC) (Egyptian pharaoh, pacifist, banned animal sacrifice and traditional Egyptian religion and instituted a religion based on compassion and monotheism)


If you look at the course of western history you'll see that we're slowly granting basic rights to everyone. A long time ago only kings had rights. Then rights were extended to property-owning white men. Then all men. Then women. Then children. Then the mentally retarded. Now we're agonizing over the extension of basic rights to homosexuals and animals. We need to finally accept that all sentient creatures are deserving of basic rights. I define basic rights as this --the ability to pursue life without having someone else's will involuntarily forced upon you. Or, as the framers of the constitution put it, the ability to have "life, liberty and the pursuit of happiness". By what criteria can you justify denying basic rights to any living thing? Realize that by whatever criteria you employ someone could deny basic rights to you if they objected to your species, sexual preferences, color, religion, ideology etc. Would you eat your housecat, or force a mentally retarded child to ingest oven cleaner? If not, then why is it ok to eat cows and test products on sentient animals? I believe that to knowingly commit actions that cause or condone suffering is reprehensible in the extreme.I call upon you to be compassionate and treat others as you want to be treated. If you don't want to be beaten, imprisoned, mutilated, killed or tortured then you shouldn't condone such behavior towards anyone, be they human or not.
-Moby


"Beef. It's what's for dinner."
- TV commercial

"Where's the beef?"
- Burger King ad slogan

"Meat tastes like murder and murder tastes pretty farking good"
- Dennis Leary

"PETA: People Eating Tasty Animals"
- Unknown

"Do not eat the animals, Adam, for it is bad."
- God, The Bible

Oh wait... that last one isn't there - even Adam enjoyed some good Murder Burgers now and then, with God's blessing.

"Honey, do you want corn or mashed potatoes to go with the steaks tonight?" - My wife last night at the supermarket
"I want bacon and another steak to go ON my steak - screw the veggies...I wouldn't want a vegan to starve because I had to be a damned omnivore about it." - Me in response before grilling up several pounds of recycled Hindu ancestors.
 
2008-07-02 11:04:51 AM
Gldm:When you cook it the sugars tend to caramelize in the outer layers first, which keeps the middle from drying out.

I know what each of those words mean, but that sentence makes no sense. Dry out... the middle... of a steak. The middle.... the bright red, barely warm part?

Wait a minute.... you are not one of those that cooks a steak above medium rare are you? Dear lord! I am beset on all sides by savages!!
 
2008-07-02 11:07:16 AM
Arbiter:Vegetarians and their crazy brethren vegans get their B12 from the same place meat eaters do: bacteria. Animals don't make it, plants don't make it. Only bacteria can synthesize it.

Would you define bacteria as alive?

If thats the case, Vegans (and everyone) technically commit a holocaust every time they eat or take a shiat.
 
2008-07-02 11:09:26 AM
i71.photobucket.com

Approves.
 
2008-07-02 11:09:55 AM
mequickwantslow:AND THE FLESH YOU SO FANCIFULLY FRY
IS NOT SUCCULENT, TASTY OR KIND
IT'S DEATH FOR NO REASON
AND DEATH FOR NO REASON IS MURDER


Death for no reason is manslaughter. Murder requires intent. Intent at least implies necessity/"a reason".
 
2008-07-02 11:10:18 AM
Farkwaddle:For those of you who are looking for the best restaurant steak out there you will find it at Jocko's in Nipomo, CA.


You sir, are a sage.
 
2008-07-02 11:10:27 AM
Arbiter:manimal2878
Vitamin B12 says you should shut up.

Vegetarians and their crazy brethren vegans get their B12 from the same place meat eaters do: bacteria. Animals don't make it, plants don't make it. Only bacteria can synthesize it.


That bacteria is only found in animal sources, not in vegetable sources.
 
2008-07-02 11:12:22 AM
dittybopper:mequickwantslow:
That having been said, I love wine

I'm sure that you are extremely careful in your wine selection, since the vast majority of them use things like gelatin, egg whites, bone char, isinglass, or other animal products in the 'fining' process.

You *DID* know that, right?


I know lots of things, I assure you.
 
2008-07-02 11:17:01 AM
Dynascape

Would you define bacteria as alive?

If thats the case, Vegans (and everyone) technically commit a holocaust every time they eat or take a shiat.


Your use of the word holocaust to refer to bacteria demeans the concept.

All plants and animals are alive you twit. "Alive" isn't the determination vegetarians and vegans use to define their diet. For most it's "suffering". Can it suffer? Is it necessary for it to suffer for me to survive?

Only animals with sophisticated central and peripheral nervous systems have the capacity to suffer.
 
2008-07-02 11:17:20 AM
"With every passing day it's becoming clearer and clearer: vegetables are murder. Subby would like his steak medium-rare, with a side of bacon"

Listen up brothers and sisters come hear my desperate tale
I speak of our friends of nature trapped in the dirt like a jail
Vegetables live in oppression, served on our tables each night
This killing of veggies is madness, I say we take up the fight
Salads are only for murderers, coleslaw's a fascist regime
Don't think that they don't have feelings, just cause a radish can't scream

Chorus:
I've heard the screams of the vegetables (scream, scream, scream)
Watching their skins being peeled (having their insides revealed)
Grated and steamed with no mercy (burning off calories)
How do you think that feels (bet it hurts really bad)
Carrot juice constitutes murder (and that's a real crime)
Greenhouses prisons for slaves (let my vegetables go)
It's time to stop all this gardening (it's dirty as hell)
Let's call a spade a spade (is a spade is a spade is a spade)

I saw a man eating celery, so I beat him black and blue
If he ever touches a sprout again, I'll bite him clean in two
I'm a political prisoner, trapped in a windowless cage
Cause I stopped the slaughter of turnips by killing five men in a rage
I told the judge when he sentenced me, "This is my finest hour,
I'd kill those farmers again just to save one more cauliflower"

Chorus

How low as people do we dare to stoop,
Making young broccolis bleed in the soup?
Untie your beans, uncage your tomatoes
Let potted plants free, don't mash that potato!
Oh spare the spud! Eat a cow instead!

I've heard the screams of the vegetables (scream, scream, scream)
Watching their skins being peeled (fates in the stir-fry are sealed)
Grated and steamed with no mercy (you fat gourmet slob)
How do you think that feels? (leave them out in the field)
Carrot juice constitutes murder (V8's genocide)
Greenhouses prisons for slaves (yes, your composts are graves)
It's time to stop all this gardening (take up macrame)
Let's call a spade a spade
(is a spade, is a spade, is a spade, is a spade......)

Power to the peas! Give peas a chance!
all we are saying, is give peas a chance
 
2008-07-02 11:17:29 AM
halfof33:Gldm:When you cook it the sugars tend to caramelize in the outer layers first, which keeps the middle from drying out.

I know what each of those words mean, but that sentence makes no sense. Dry out... the middle... of a steak. The middle.... the bright red, barely warm part?

Wait a minute.... you are not one of those that cooks a steak above medium rare are you? Dear lord! I am beset on all sides by savages!!



If I wasn't interested in cooking the steak, why would I get it from a cow that's already dead? Just tie one up and bite it then let it go, that way it'll grow back and you don't need to find another one!

Usually I cook it till it stops obvious bleeding. Every time I've eaten it less cooked than that, I've been pretty damn sick (not as sick as if I'd actually eaten plants, but still sick). I'm sure if I'd been tearing raw meat off animals since I was a toddler my digestion would be more acclimated to it, but since my parents had access to fire that's not the case.
 
2008-07-02 11:17:52 AM
Billy Ligue:hot bacon sammich
hotlinked


or how about some prosciutto


Yo, Billy!
Need to toast that sucker!
And put on some mayo!
 
2008-07-02 11:19:08 AM
HowAboutNo:Ah yes, the daily Fark bacon thread... allow me to weigh in on this subject...


"I bet if you put bits of bacon on a strip of bacon, you could travel back in time... it's like a tasty vortex."


"Did you hear what he just said? He's going to Hell!"
 
2008-07-02 11:19:39 AM
Suicidal Writer:For the sake of love of purity, the Bodhisattva should refrain from eating flesh, which is born of semen, blood, etc. For fear of causing terror to living beings let the Bodhisattva, who is disciplining himself to attain compassion, refrain from eating flesh... It is not true that meat is proper food and permissible when the animal was not killed by himself, when he did not order others to kill it, when it was not specially meant for him. Again, there may be some people in the future who ... being under the influence of the taste for meat will string together in various ways sophistic arguments to defend meat eating. But... meat eating in any form, in any manner, and in any place is unconditionally and once for all prohibited... Meat eating I have not permitted to anyone, I do not permit, I will not permit.
- Lankavatara Sutra


"The butcher does not relent at the bleating of the lamb; neither is the heart of the cruel moved with distress. But the tears of the compassionate are sweeter than dew-drops, falling from roses on the bosom of spring."

-Amenohis IV aka Akhenaton ("servant of the one, true god"), the Heretic King (1380 - 1362 BC) (Egyptian pharaoh, pacifist, banned animal sacrifice and traditional Egyptian religion and instituted a religion based on compassion and monotheism)


If you look at the course of western history you'll see that we're slowly granting basic rights to everyone. A long time ago only kings had rights. Then rights were extended to property-owning white men. Then all men. Then women. Then children. Then the mentally retarded. Now we're agonizing over the extension of basic rights to homosexuals and animals. We need to finally accept that all sentient creatures are deserving of basic rights. I define basic rights as this --the ability to pursue life without having someone else's will involuntarily forced upon you. Or, as the framers of the constitution put it, the ability to have "life, liberty and the pursuit of happiness". By what criteria can you justify denying basic rights to any living thing? Realize that by whatever criteria you employ someone could deny basic rights to you if they objected to your species, sexual preferences, color, religion, ideology etc. Would you eat your housecat, or force a mentally retarded child to ingest oven cleaner? If not, then why is it ok to eat cows and test products on sentient animals? I believe that to knowingly commit actions that cause or condone suffering is reprehensible in the extreme.I call upon you to be compassionate and treat others as you want to be treated. If you don't want to be beaten, imprisoned, mutilated, killed or tortured then you shouldn't condone such behavior towards anyone, be they human or not.
-Moby



Aren't you the same guy who posts an absurd amount of gun pictures in threads where they aren't even relevant? So you're fine with taking the life of a human, but you wouldn't want to kill an animal?

You're just a troll.

/vegetarian
 
2008-07-02 11:19:45 AM
mequickwantslow:dittybopper:mequickwantslow:
That having been said, I love wine

I'm sure that you are extremely careful in your wine selection, since the vast majority of them use things like gelatin, egg whites, bone char, isinglass, or other animal products in the 'fining' process.

You *DID* know that, right?

I know lots of things, I assure you.


You must be either a lawyer or a politician, because you answered the question with out actually answering the question.

/Are all vegans this obtuse?
 
2008-07-02 11:20:20 AM
www.wayodd.com

/tastes like lamb
//hotlinked
 
2008-07-02 11:22:00 AM
manimal2878

That bacteria is only found in animal sources, not in vegetable sources.

You can find b12 in lots of things. The point is, whether it's found in vegetables or animals, it's produced by the bacteria and not by the animal or vegetable you're eating.

There's nothing wrong with admitting you didn't know what the fark you were talking about.
 
2008-07-02 11:22:33 AM
lucumon:/tastes like lamb
//hotlinked


Actually, I've heard we taste like pork. "Long pig", and all that.

I once saw the MRI image of my wife's ass-cheek, and thought "That is a *REALLY* nice looking steak".
 
2008-07-02 11:23:30 AM
With all the mentions of how to prepare a steak I'll put in my two cents worth.

Take a really good, well-aged steak, I prefer New York strip which have my butcher leave as the whole strip and cut to my own preferred thickness, about an inch but the final cut will be determined by how the strip feels when I'm cutting it. Your steak must be at room temperature when you prepare it. Rub it all over with garlic, press in some freshly cracked pepper, put on a hot grill. Believe it or not, I think the best smoke for grilling is the juices of the meat itself over an indirect heat grill. Troeger grills are very good for this. They also have the luxury of not requiring time-consuming start up and I'm usually pressed for time. I'd rather relax while eating than wait too long to start eating. Cook it as long as you wish but I prefer medium rare. Rather than any steak sauce, I prefer to make a bit of blue cheese sauce to put on the steak. A lightly steamed vegetable, perhaps a few sauted mushrooms and a good cream stout or ale or a decent red wine and all the tribulations of the day fade and you realize that we do indeed have a good life.
 
2008-07-02 11:24:50 AM
dittybopper:mequickwantslow:
Maybe it's the sheer fact that something dying to fill my stomach
\...

By the way, the reverse *ISN'T* true: The Inuit lived healthy lives eating mostly meat. During the long winters, their diet was almost exclusively from animal sources.

....


That's true but keep in mind a few things about that: the Eximos eat every last bit of the seals/walruses/penguins whatever. Read about Eskimo cuisine--my favorite is seal liver that's been stitched up in a leather sack and allowed to age for a year.

Their health does suffer--I don't know if things are getting better with more of a variety in their diets, but typical lifespan for Eskimo was about 50 years, mainly because of the all-meat diet. Health issues include that sour smell you hear about from people on the Atkins diet.

So yeah, they lived, but calling it a 'healthy' diet I think stretches truth just a mite.

/Now I'll have that steak, please.
 
2008-07-02 11:25:56 AM
Gldm:I've been pretty damn sick ... but since my parents had access to fire that's not the case.

I assume that the concept of fire was fairly new to your parents, because they appear to have used it like drunken monkeys.

Perhaps they will be better off had they learned the concept of soap.
 
2008-07-02 11:26:27 AM
I understand the arguments about not wanting to eat factory raised meats. But once you buy from a local non-factory farm, or better yet, raise your own, that removes that argument.

Hunting is another good way to remove the factory farm issue, especially if you are going after invasive species, like wild pigs.
 
2008-07-02 11:27:23 AM
manimal2878

That bacteria is only found in animal sources, not in vegetable sources.

My bad, your comment was even more ridiculous than I thought. Yes, the bacteria is found outside of animal sources. In fact, it's easier to cultivate when it isn't inside an animal.
 
2008-07-02 11:27:33 AM
Arbiter:Dynascape

Would you define bacteria as alive?

If thats the case, Vegans (and everyone) technically commit a holocaust every time they eat or take a shiat.

Your use of the word holocaust to refer to bacteria demeans the concept.

All plants and animals are alive you twit. "Alive" isn't the determination vegetarians and vegans use to define their diet. For most it's "suffering". Can it suffer? Is it necessary for it to suffer for me to survive?

Only animals with sophisticated central and peripheral nervous systems have the capacity to suffer.


Clams? Mussels? Oysters? Shrimp? Lobster? Escargot? Those all OK for you?
 
2008-07-02 11:28:36 AM
Meat Is Murder!


...and I'm a homicidal maniac.

Nothing tastes better than steak covered in the tears of a vegetarian.
 
2008-07-02 11:33:44 AM
media.threadless.com

/hotlinked
 
2008-07-02 11:35:04 AM
You people are idiots. If it doesn't have A1 on it, then it's not done.

If there is even a tiny bit of pink remaining, then it might as well still be grazing in the field.

You people need to learn how to cook your food before eating it.

Steak nazi bastards.
 
2008-07-02 11:39:44 AM
TheGreyPiper:d

That's true but keep in mind a few things about that: the Eximos eat every last bit of the seals/walruses/penguins whatever. Read about Eskimo cuisine--my favorite is seal liver that's been stitched up in a leather sack and allowed to age for a year.

Their health does suffer--I don't know if things are getting better with more of a variety in their diets, but typical lifespan for Eskimo was about 50 years, mainly because of the all-meat diet. Health issues include that sour smell you hear about from people on the Atkins diet.

So yeah, they lived, but calling it a 'healthy' diet I think stretches truth just a mite.

/Now I'll have that steak, please.


Well, the typical lifespan of *ALL* hunter/gatherers is in that range, so you'll have to come up with something better than that.

Don't use modern Inuit though, because as their diet has become "westernized", they've had increasing issues with heart disease, diabetes, and other health issues related to high-carb, lower protein diets.

By the way, the effects of B12 deficiency are pernicious enough that it would lead to major debilitating effects much quicker than a 50 year life span.
 
2008-07-02 11:40:05 AM
mequickwantslow:AND THE FLESH YOU SO FANCIFULLY FRY
IS NOT SUCCULENT, TASTY OR KIND
IT'S DEATH FOR NO REASON
AND DEATH FOR NO REASON IS MURDER


And murder tastes pretty goddamn good...

/prefers steak medium rare
//mmm...steak
///OM NOM NOM
 
2008-07-02 11:40:29 AM
lucumon That baby is too rare. Infants should be cooked to 160F.
 
2008-07-02 11:41:35 AM
dittybopper:mequickwantslow:dittybopper:mequickwantslow:
That having been said, I love wine

I'm sure that you are extremely careful in your wine selection, since the vast majority of them use things like gelatin, egg whites, bone char, isinglass, or other animal products in the 'fining' process.

You *DID* know that, right?

I know lots of things, I assure you.

You must be either a lawyer or a politician, because you answered the question with out actually answering the question.

/Are all vegans this obtuse?


Yes. In fact, here is a recent picture of me.

upload.wikimedia.org
 
2008-07-02 11:42:50 AM
Tomatoes are bullshiat now anyway. They're 85% iceberg lettuce on the inside. Even the "organic" ones suck. Gotta pay $5 for a decent heirloom now!!! My elitist mind reels.

Good riddance. Home-grown, baby!
 
2008-07-02 11:44:53 AM
Pus Gut:lucumon That baby is too rare. Infants should be cooked to 160F.

Yes, but is that external or internal temp? Do you need a meat thermometer to check the internal temp?

/likes my babies medium rare
 
2008-07-02 11:45:45 AM
TheGreyPiper:Clams? Mussels? Oysters? Shrimp? Lobster? Escargot?

Damnit, Piper, stop that.

You're making me hungry and there are still over two weeks before I fly to PEI for the fresh stuff.
 
2008-07-02 11:48:40 AM
dittybopper:lucumon:/tastes like lamb
//hotlinked

Actually, I've heard we taste like pork. "Long pig", and all that.


www.nerve.com
they actually taste of chicken.

/evil hotlinker
 
2008-07-02 12:01:00 PM
halfof33:Gldm:I've been pretty damn sick ... but since my parents had access to fire that's not the case.

I assume that the concept of fire was fairly new to your parents, because they appear to have used it like drunken monkeys.

Perhaps they will be better off had they learned the concept of soap.



That's pretty funny coming from someone who lives in the city that can't even get pizza right!
 
2008-07-02 12:01:43 PM
mequickwantslow:dittybopper:mequickwantslow:dittybopper:mequickwantslow:
That having been said, I love wine

I'm sure that you are extremely careful in your wine selection, since the vast majority of them use things like gelatin, egg whites, bone char, isinglass, or other animal products in the 'fining' process.

You *DID* know that, right?

I know lots of things, I assure you.

You must be either a lawyer or a politician, because you answered the question with out actually answering the question.

/Are all vegans this obtuse?

Yes. In fact, here is a recent picture of me.


That won't help you. I have one of these:

img127.imageshack.us

I've got your number.

/Pickett N200-ES TRIG pocket slide rule FTW.
//Trig scales are on the back.
 
2008-07-02 12:14:02 PM
dang, i'd rather be a smug asshole than act totally ignorant.

/vegetarian

vegetarian threads make me cringe. and it wasn't even a vegetarian article.
 
2008-07-02 12:14:04 PM
Meat's meat and a man's got to eat.
 
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