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2008-06-29 10:58:03 AM
Will they get progressively worse until watching them is like a chore each week you just can't not do?
 
2008-06-29 11:01:33 AM
This is going to turn into Babylon 5...

Suck ass movies trying to generate spin offs and a series end that just feels like pure suck

/screw tracy skogins....
//in her backyard!
 
2008-06-29 11:03:04 AM
This has happened before, and will probably keep happening until 2010.

/wait, what?
 
2008-06-29 11:05:23 AM
Can't they finish the farking series first?

What the fark is this running half a season so you can fill slots on a poorly run cable station in the next season?

SciFi, with shiatty decisions like this, you're not exactly winning anyone over to the rest of your shiatty lineup.
 
2008-06-29 11:07:25 AM
Grace Park: 'There's one episode where everything is explained and I had to read it three times,' Park said. 'I had to sit down with [executive producer] Ron Moore and he had to break it down.'

After seeing several interviews, she never struck me as the sharpest crayon in the box.

So, these BSG movies will be after the finale, it seems. I'm curious to see how it will fit in with Caprica and the supposed end of the series. Flashbacks?
 
2008-06-29 11:14:33 AM
Will be looking forward to downloading them soon as they are available.
 
2008-06-29 11:18:29 AM
Sharch: Grace Park: 'There's one episode where everything is explained and I had to read it three times,' Park said. 'I had to sit down with [executive producer] Ron Moore and he had to break it down.'

After seeing several interviews, she never struck me as the sharpest crayon in the box.


That's exactly what I thought. I don't think that one episode is all that complicated to understand. Rather, it's that Park is just dumb. Moreover, she's a terrible actress - easily the worst of the main cast members. The only reason she got the role was because of her looks. And, as someone who loves pretty east Asian women, I don't find Park all that hot.
 
2008-06-29 11:22:13 AM
Alright! I love BiSexual Girl movies!!
 
2008-06-29 11:25:24 AM
Sharch:
So, these BSG movies will be after the finale, it seems. I'm curious to see how it will fit in with Caprica and the supposed end of the series. Flashbacks?


Yeah, supposedly they'll take place during the continuity of the series, like Razor did -- i.e. NOT taking place chronologically after the finale.
 
2008-06-29 11:26:17 AM
This irritates me for some reason...the split season is farking ridiculous in the first place, which probably is SciFi's fault and not the BSG folks, but still...I am ready for some sort of resolution at the end of season4. Not another goddamn (or godsdamn) cliffhanger that takes six months to resolve. The idea of Caprica doesn't sound that interesting to me, so if it's a tie-in attempt, I'll be even more rankled.
 
2008-06-29 11:28:53 AM
Ah, thank you Andric, once again you are a fount of wisdom. I'm glad they'll not be after the finale in theme. We just finished season 3 and we're watching Razor today, so I'm curious to see how this works.
 
2008-06-29 11:29:42 AM
Sharch:So, these BSG movies will be after the finale, it seems. I'm curious to see how it will fit in with Caprica and the supposed end of the series. Flashbacks?

The movies will be set on Earth, in the year 1980.
 
2008-06-29 11:33:44 AM
smerfnablin: This is going to turn into Babylon 5...

Suck ass movies trying to generate spin offs and a series end that just feels like pure suck


Ain't that the truth. The last movie was particularly horrid.
 
2008-06-29 11:34:19 AM
I_Love_Cheesecake: The only reason she got the role was because of her looks. And, as someone who loves pretty east Asian women, I don't find Park all that hot.

Well, we can thank our fellow Net Nerds for turning her into a sex symbol. I like her, and I do think she's reasonably attractive. However, it annoys me that every time there's a new sci-fi series out, the Net Geeks spend all their time obsessing over the fact that there's "a girl in the cast! OMG, AN ACTUAL GIRL!!!!!"
 
2008-06-29 11:50:09 AM
Corpus Delecti: I_Love_Cheesecake: The only reason she got the role was because of her looks. And, as someone who loves pretty east Asian women, I don't find Park all that hot.

Well, we can thank our fellow Net Nerds for turning her into a sex symbol. I like her, and I do think she's reasonably attractive. However, it annoys me that every time there's a new sci-fi series out, the Net Geeks spend all their time obsessing over the fact that there's "a girl in the cast! OMG, AN ACTUAL GIRL!!!!!"


Exactly right. It's those nerds who've gone nuts over Park, hyping her to such an extent that she has attained some superstar status that is completely undeserved.

Personally, I think that Kandyse McClure is the prettiest female on the BSG cast. I also like Katee Sackhoff.
 
2008-06-29 11:55:58 AM
Personally, I think that Kandyse McClure is the prettiest female on the BSG cast. I also like Katee Sackhoff.

Sorry, but I instinctively wince at the idea of a female named "sack off".
 
2008-06-29 12:00:16 PM
Frogdog13: This irritates me for some reason...the split season is farking ridiculous in the first place, which probably is SciFi's fault and not the BSG folks, but still...I am ready for some sort of resolution at the end of season4. Not another goddamn (or godsdamn) cliffhanger that takes six months to resolve. The idea of Caprica doesn't sound that interesting to me, so if it's a tie-in attempt, I'll be even more rankled.

I agree with you; the split is ridiculous. It's ostensibly because of the writer's strike this time, but I think if they wanted to SciFi could air them in the fall. Frakkers.

Be sure and let us know what you think of Razor. Personally, I loved it. I don't know what Mentat was talking about.
 
2008-06-29 12:08:08 PM
So it's going to take them 6-7 years to air just four seasons? Sci-fi's milking of this is getting ridiculous. I own the first season, but there's something about having to buy season two separately (2.0 2.5) that really burns my ass. Having said that, I love this fraking show and will buy the box set whenever it comes out.

I_Love_Cheesecake Personally, I think that Kandyse McClure is the prettiest female on the BSG cast.

This.

/Would love to see more of what happened on new Caprica in these movies
 
2008-06-29 12:10:34 PM
Don't really care that much anymore. The series has sunk in to a morass of mystical bullshiate and lameness. That the resolution of the series had to be 'explained' to Park probably means that its ridiculously stupid and makes little sense.
 
2008-06-29 12:12:26 PM
Andric: Be sure and let us know what you think of Razor. Personally, I loved it. I don't know what Mentat was talking about.

I was talking about Babylon 5 movies.
 
2008-06-29 12:13:57 PM
Mentat:
I was talking about Babylon 5 movies.


Ah, that explains it. My bad.
 
2008-06-29 12:56:57 PM
I'm trying to track down the sources where I read this earlier, but they finished up production til episode 11 last year, and resumed production after the Writer's Guild strike early this year. The last episode should have been filmed now.

So, the season 4 second half delay til 2009 isn't the fault of the strike. They could have started to show the second half next month and continue til the series finale in ten weeks.

This delay is totally inexcusable.
 
2008-06-29 01:17:39 PM
Korag_The_Nasty: Personally, I think that Kandyse McClure is the prettiest female on the BSG cast. I also like Katee Sackhoff.

Sorry, but I instinctively wince at the idea of a female named "sack off".


You like to jackoff to Sackoff!

/the veal, it is tasty.
 
2008-06-29 01:33:04 PM
Aboleth: I'm trying to track down the sources where I read this earlier, but they finished up production til episode 11 last year, and resumed production after the Writer's Guild strike early this year. The last episode should have been filmed now.

So, the season 4 second half delay til 2009 isn't the fault of the strike. They could have started to show the second half next month and continue til the series finale in ten weeks.

This delay is totally inexcusable.


DVD sales.

List price of Battlestar Galactica DVD sets:
Season 1: $59.98 (17 episodes)
Season 2: $59.98 (10 episodes)
Season 2.5: $59.98 (10 episodes)
Season 3: $59.98 (20 epsiodes)


Expect a Season 4 DVD set sometime around Thanksgiving. Then expect the Season 4.5 DVD set next summer.
 
2008-06-29 01:53:55 PM
Sharch: Grace Park: 'There's one episode where everything is explained and I had to read it three times,' Park said. 'I had to sit down with [executive producer] Ron Moore and he had to break it down.'

After seeing several interviews, she never struck me as the sharpest crayon in the box.


Until someone can clarify the production schedule, I would assume that
1. They're not filming the scenes in order, and
2. They're filming multiple episodes at a time.

Those two things would make continuity confusing to track from the first-person standpoint. Does she have time to watch the full episodes? Or maybe she doesn't like to watch herself act (as I've read of many actors who don't).

It's a continuity-heavy series. The fact that someone needs to remind her here and there why her character behaves a certain way isn't unheard of. And BSG has so many characters that it's hard to keep track of everything without a scorecard, so needing a bit of explanation isn't a crime either.
 
2008-06-29 02:22:57 PM
Aboleth: This delay is totally inexcusable.

Agreed.

The delay before the season 4 premier was somewhat justified - the network didn't want BSG lost in the dozens of pilots and new series that started last autumn. Then the writer's strike delayed things a little longer.

But it's not forgivable this time around. I'll watch the second half of season 4 when it airs, and if the movies have anything to do with continuity, I'll watch them. I'm intrigued by Caprica, but with shenanigans like this - and their new direction (less "hard" scifi, more stuff like Field of Dreams) - I think I'll be done with SFC after BSG ends. They're just too intent on joining the League of Ordinary Cable Networks.
 
2008-06-29 02:41:47 PM
Okay, we just watched Razor. I thought it was amazing, my husband was sort of "meh." He really hated Cain and the Pegasus storyline though. But, now I really don't know what to think. We've been watching like two episodes a day for few months, so it's all very fresh in our minds. What is up with Kara? How can they ever justify the "this has all happened before and will happen again" storyline? Was the hybrid the Guardians were guarding telling the truth...and is he the God that the cylons refer to? I always figured it would be a computer.

I hate the thought of waiting til Thanksgiving to see the first half of 4.
 
2008-06-29 02:50:54 PM
Could they not find a actual BSG pic to go with that story? There are tons of Starbuck pictures out there, but they go with Sackhoff as Sarah from Bionic Woman?
 
2008-06-29 02:53:06 PM
Bleh. I love nuBSG but think this is a terrible idea. Stop milking it and just let it end (preferably without making me wait till 09 to see how).

I didn't even like Razor that much. To paraphrase someone else, I already heard all about someone's bout of diarrhea, I can do without video documentation of it as well.
 
2008-06-29 03:41:34 PM
Um so does this mean that we're not going to get a real ending with the seasons? That we're going to get just more cliffhangers?
 
2008-06-29 04:03:15 PM
Frogdog13: What is up with Kara? How can they ever justify the "this has all happened before and will happen again" storyline? Was the hybrid the Guardians were guarding telling the truth...and is he the God that the cylons refer to? I always figured it would be a computer.

You're thinking too much. It's all pretty much exactly how it's explained in the story: reality is cyclical, god is real, fate is real, Kara is magic, her Viper is magic. There is a divine presence - the Cylon god is a real god and not a computer/hybrid, though it may not be the only god so the humans' gods may be real too. Hybrids and the one Cylon model can see the future. The lost hybrid they met is just a hybrid.
 
2008-06-29 04:41:36 PM
OnmyojiOmn:

Thanks, but I hope you are wrong. You make a compelling enough case, I mean, it *is* just a TV show after all. I've said this in other BSG threads, but I dread it fizzling out like the X-Files--they built up a storyline that could never live up to the implied complexity. I feel like BSG is going the same way...so maybe it would be better if it's just not that complicated in the end. We'll see...eventually.

I have to say, I am sad Kendra Shaw seems gone...I liked her character a bunch.
 
2008-06-29 05:13:11 PM
OnmyojiOmn:
It's all pretty much exactly how it's explained in the story: reality is cyclical, god is real, fate is real, Kara is magic, her Viper is magic.


You're probably right and that makes me a sad panda.
 
2008-06-29 05:23:56 PM
I watched the mini-series back in 2003, but never got into BSG. Recently I've been renting the DVDs. So far I've seen

Mini-series
Season 1
Season 2
Season 2.5
Razor
Season 3 (watching it right now, on disc 4)

I like the show, I think it's a bit over hyped -- but that's pretty much all sci-fi shows. Yes, that included Firefly.
I do like the fact that there has been a progressive story since the begining and that even the filler episodes advance the main storyline. In the end I think that will be BSG's legacy.

But seriously, why doesn't anything have corners? What do these guys have against right angles?
 
2008-06-29 05:25:40 PM
Aboleth:I'm trying to track down the sources where I read this earlier, but they finished up production til episode 11 last year, and resumed production after the Writer's Guild strike early this year. The last episode should have been filmed now.

So, the season 4 second half delay til 2009 isn't the fault of the strike. They could have started to show the second half next month and continue til the series finale in ten weeks.

This delay is totally inexcusable.


Agreed.

"The cast has so far seen most of the series' final episodes, which will air in (sigh!) 2009. "


The episodes are already in the can. They're just dragging it out to milk it for more money.
 
2008-06-29 05:33:06 PM
Saturn5:
The episodes are already in the can. They're just dragging it out to milk it for more money.


How exactly does this work? Wouldn't it be more profitable to air it now while there's still hype, than waiting till next year when people forget about it (and there are other competing shows).
 
2008-06-29 06:05:08 PM
The Loaf:List price of Battlestar Galactica DVD sets:
Season 1: $59.98 (17 episodes)
Season 2: $59.98 (10 episodes)
Season 2.5: $59.98 (10 episodes)
Season 3: $59.98 (20 epsiodes)


Fail. I got mine for 32 and change each at Wal-Mart.
 
2008-06-29 06:25:05 PM
D-O-single_G:The Loaf:List price of Battlestar Galactica DVD sets:
Season 1: $59.98 (17 episodes)
Season 2: $59.98 (10 episodes)
Season 2.5: $59.98 (10 episodes)
Season 3: $59.98 (20 epsiodes)

Fail. I got mine for 32 and change each at Wal-Mart.


LIST Price

It was mostly to show that the complete season 2 cost twice as much as season seasons 1 and 3--expect the same for season 4.

/Learn to read before becoming a snarky bastard.
 
2008-06-29 07:16:16 PM
Frogdog13

Note: possible minor season 1 or 2 (forget which) spoiler below.

I've noticed less of a focus on the "this has all happened before" bit. I've been rewatching the series (up to s2e10) and it seems to coincide with Baltar sort of accepting his role as the hand of god. If all this has happened before, it could only have happened for the humans. Maybe Baltar is a way to sort of break the cycle.


Season 3 spoiler below

Also, Baltar is offering monotheism to the polytheistic fleet. Does that make him Abraham?

I'm not sure if those theories actually hold up, but it's what I'm thinking.
 
2008-06-29 07:24:11 PM
I_Love_Cheesecake:Sharch: Grace Park: 'There's one episode where everything is explained and I had to read it three times,' Park said. 'I had to sit down with [executive producer] Ron Moore and he had to break it down.'

After seeing several interviews, she never struck me as the sharpest crayon in the box.

That's exactly what I thought. I don't think that one episode is all that complicated to understand. Rather, it's that Park is just dumb. Moreover, she's a terrible actress - easily the worst of the main cast members. The only reason she got the role was because of her looks. And, as someone who loves pretty east Asian women, I don't find Park all that hot.


You are dead to me. Boomer is the single best storyline on that show (or at least was, the first two seasons).

Park may not be the greatest actress in the world, but I think she does a pretty good job of making Boomer, Athena, and the other Eights all a little different from each other. It's not that easy to do.

Tricia Helfer, though...she's really good. I think Park is hotter, but Helfer is a good actress.
 
2008-06-29 07:28:01 PM
moralpanic:Saturn5:
The episodes are already in the can. They're just dragging it out to milk it for more money.

How exactly does this work? Wouldn't it be more profitable to air it now while there's still hype, than waiting till next year when people forget about it (and there are other competing shows).


It's so they can release 2 separate DVD sets - Season 4.0 and Season 4.5.

Frankly, I'm just happy they have already filmed it. My biggest worry when stuff gets pushed back and delayed like this is they will end up canceling it and we'll never see how it ends. Looks like that's impossible now.
 
2008-06-29 07:28:52 PM
Frogdog13:I hate the thought of waiting til Thanksgiving to see the first half of 4.

You can watch it all on Hulu.
 
2008-06-29 08:02:37 PM
DamnYankees:It's so they can release 2 separate DVD sets - Season 4.0 and Season 4.5.

Well, I plan to get Season 4.0 when it comes out around Thanksgiving.

/DVR needed to be replaced
//did not have time to watch recorded episodes
 
2008-06-29 08:14:18 PM
The Loaf

i128.photobucket.com

/Lighten up, Francis.
 
2008-06-29 08:18:58 PM
Y'all rock! We just watched the first two episodes of season 4.

thejew:
I've been having a similar discussion about Baltar...not that he's Abraham...but that he might just serve as some sort of glue that will meld the Cylons and humans together. What keeps confusing me...End of 3 and beginning of 4 spoiler, possibly:

Why the Cylons keep attacking? Why not just leave them alone? I like how someone here theorized that the Cylons are in the process of growing up.
 
2008-06-29 08:26:44 PM
Frogdog13:Why the Cylons keep attacking? Why not just leave them alone? I like how someone here theorized that the Cylons are in the process of growing up.

This question has an answer, but I don't want to spoil you. It will become someone evident in the next few episodes of season 4.
 
2008-06-29 08:33:58 PM
DamnYankees:Frogdog13:Why the Cylons keep attacking? Why not just leave them alone? I like how someone here theorized that the Cylons are in the process of growing up.

This question has an answer, but I don't want to spoil you. It will become someone evident in the next few episodes of season 4.


That should say "somewhat evident."
 
2008-06-29 10:49:09 PM
Came for the hot ladies of BSG pics.

Leaving really disappointed.
 
2008-06-29 11:12:33 PM
DamnYankees:I_Love_Cheesecake:Sharch: Grace Park: 'There's one episode where everything is explained and I had to read it three times,' Park said. 'I had to sit down with [executive producer] Ron Moore and he had to break it down.'

After seeing several interviews, she never struck me as the sharpest crayon in the box.

That's exactly what I thought. I don't think that one episode is all that complicated to understand. Rather, it's that Park is just dumb. Moreover, she's a terrible actress - easily the worst of the main cast members. The only reason she got the role was because of her looks. And, as someone who loves pretty east Asian women, I don't find Park all that hot.

You are dead to me. Boomer is the single best storyline on that show (or at least was, the first two seasons).

Park may not be the greatest actress in the world, but I think she does a pretty good job of making Boomer, Athena, and the other Eights all a little different from each other. It's not that easy to do.

Tricia Helfer, though...she's really good. I think Park is hotter, but Helfer is a good actress.


Aw, man! I actually enjoy reading your posts (especially in the Politics tab).

I stand by my contention that Park sucks as an actress. She has no range at all. And, as another Farker said earlier, all the nerd fanboys made Park into some goddess just because she's an attractive woman on a sci-fi show.

I will grant you that her character's storyline is interesting, but I prefer Gaius Baltar, whose storyline no other character on BSG can touch. James Callus is also one helluva good actor.
 
2008-06-29 11:36:36 PM
I_Love_Cheesecake:Aw, man! I actually enjoy reading your posts (especially in the Politics tab).

You still can!

I_Love_Cheesecake:I stand by my contention that Park sucks as an actress. She has no range at all. And, as another Farker said earlier, all the nerd fanboys made Park into some goddess just because she's an attractive woman on a sci-fi show.

I'm not sure what you mean by no range. I've never really considered 'range' to be that important. I mean, EJO doesn't do much range on the show either - Adama is very stoic and doesn't show much emotion. His range is very limited. The only people who have range on BSG are Starbuck and Baltar, and maybe Roslin a little. Everyone else has a pretty narrow range they have to play.

The question is do they do it well. I've never seen Park in anything other than BSG, and I think she does her job well. I can't recount any situation where I thought "ouch, she sucked in that scene". Maybe if you could point some out, it would be useful. But she does well for what she's supposed to. I'm not calling for her to win an emmy or anything. She's clearly not as good as Olmos, Hogan, or Callis. But that's a really high bar.

I_Love_Cheesecake:I will grant you that her character's storyline is interesting, but I prefer Gaius Baltar, whose storyline no other character on BSG can touch. James Callus is also one helluva good actor.

You get no argument from me. Callis is a better actor than Park. But I like Park's characters more.

I think the worst actor on the show is Tahmoh Penniket (Helo). And I still like him a lot. As long as the role you are asked to play falls within your range, I don't really care what else you can do.
 
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