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2008-06-29 01:02:34 PM
Kaybeck: Check your history.

"Because speed and range were severely limited underwater while running on battery power, U-boats were required to spend most of their time surfaced running on diesel engines, diving only when attacked or for rare daytime torpedo strikes."


Oh, so they never submerged, that makes it *oh so* more believable.
 
2008-06-29 01:02:40 PM
Wulfman: Please.



Find a realistic way to survive a nuclear blast. Like jumping behind a log.


Duck and Cover!
 
2008-06-29 01:05:43 PM
FightDirector: /waits for Mythbusters to do a "survive a nuclear blast in the fridge" episode...

Mythbusters: GRENADES (Ep. 81)
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=SsiWWPupEuk (pops)
Pretty much sums it up if you're inside or outside the fridge.
Jump to the 1 minute mark.

Myth: Throwing a grenade in a refrigerator to save your life

In an episode of Monk, the hero throws a grenade into a refrigerator save his life.

They changed the setup on this myth slightly as they positioned the plywood actors around the fridge. The actor in front of the fridge was severed in half and decapitated. The fridge just added more shrapnel to the explosion.

Jamie: "Out of all the options that we had, this was clearly the worst idea."
 
2008-06-29 01:06:50 PM
austin_millbarge: If you want to film a scene of yourself inside a fridge submitting yourself to a nuclear blast and a 5 mile drop from the sky, go ahead. If you survive and walk away without a scratch, I'll change my opinion about that scene

Are you listening to yourself? You're comparing a fight scene composed of who knows how many takes, edits, wipes, feints, dodges, sound effects and audience misdirection, which was probably filmed at 10 mph over series of days, with some pretty straightforward CGI? Obviously you're not letting *anyone* pull the wool over *your* eyes.
 
2008-06-29 01:10:34 PM
Hop aboard the Freedom Fridge!
Indiada Jodes
/great Indiana Jones flash animation
//of near "awesome" caliber
 
2008-06-29 01:11:51 PM
PeriRies: If you still go to the movies with high expectations, you've clearly not been paying attention for quite some time now.

When it comes to movies, I go expecting to have a good time. Having high expectations is a rarity. I had it with 'Iron Man', and those expectations where met. I saw 'Transformers' last year with low expectations and was surprised that it was actually a good movie (even more surprised when my dad and step-mom saw it at the dollar movies and bought it as soon as it came out on DVD). I do have high expectations for 'The Dark Knight', but that's only because of the job they did with 'Batman Begins'.
 
2008-06-29 01:18:21 PM
I think Peter Jackson deserves all the credit in the world for having lots of CG elements in LotR and the movies still had some kind of emotional punch.

And Spielberg's War of the Worlds and AI were really great.

But fark that Crystal Skull shiat. Come on.
 
2008-06-29 01:21:20 PM
theorellior: shower_in_my_socks: Actually, that's pretty much what Kingdom of the Crystal Skull felt like. In fact, I think I'll use that as a description for it in the future. So, thanks. For that.

Well, I do what I can. Glad to help out.

As for the silliness in Crystal Skull, you seriously need to re-watch Raiders with the same critical eye. It's a pretty silly movie, too. But that's what makes it so good. If there's an Indy movie with too much silliness it was Crusade, IMHO.


No.

I watched the 3 movies in the week before going to see Kingdom and even with a "critical eye", the first 3 are far better.

Temple of Doom is the most ridiculous one, but even with the silly plot, you can follow the story and know why a silly scene happens.

Kingdom of the Crystal Skulls feels like a collage of 20 years of ideas, and the movie is like watching a chain of unrelated events.

Just at top of my head :

-The Russians are just Germans that talk Russian. There is no differences at all between the old and new enemies of Indy.

-The Russian lady has super duper magical power that never get used. Why having them at all? Couldn't they just remove the exploding door lock and pretend that she is just a biatch?

-The fridge scene itself didn't strike me as odd as much as others, beside fact that he escape unscated.
Where I have a problem is that a secret military base is assaulted a few miles from a pending nuclear testing site, and apparently no one knows about it. Indy got out of the warehouse at night, and the fridge scene is in the morning, so someone, somewhere was bound to check on the freaking super secret military base before launching a nuke.

-The car chase at the start was useless. They are at the pinnacle of the Cold War, I'd have shouted "LOOK, BIG BAD RUSSIANS!" in that cafe and saved myself a scene from West Side Story and a dumb car chase. Plus, it would've been more in character for Indy.

-Shia brings his motorcycle all around the world and then doesn't use it? Why just not leave the thing at home. I mean, Indy was begging for cash for a plane ticket moments earlier, and now he brings a guess AND a motorcycle. And they don't use it.

-Who the fark were the people in the cemetary? Guardians of a powerful artifact? No explanation is given, we have to assume that Super Magic Inca Rat People Ninjas roam the countryside.

Anyway, thats enough. Yes silly stuff happened in the other movies, but you could find a reason why they happened, and even if the reason was as silly as the scene the story did hold together. But in Kingdom, stuff just happens without any apparent link to the story.
 
2008-06-29 01:23:37 PM
austin_millbarge: Big difference here is that when he got thrown of of a windshield, crawled under the chassis of a truck, got dragged behind it, and jumped back though the window, all with keeping his hat on, someone actually farking did that, FOR REAL.

Um, no they didn't. The windwshield was breakaway glass, Ford was sitting in a chair, they raised the truck so the stuntman could fit under it, the truck was, as theorellior was moving less than 10 mph, they never did show how he hoisted himself up into the truck...

So they didn't use CGI. That doesn't mean the stunt was practical or even possible in real life.
 
2008-06-29 01:27:28 PM
theorellior: Kaybeck: Check your history.

"Because speed and range were severely limited underwater while running on battery power, U-boats were required to spend most of their time surfaced running on diesel engines, diving only when attacked or for rare daytime torpedo strikes."

Oh, so they never submerged, that makes it *oh so* more believable.



The comic adaptation shows him unable to pop the hatch and making a miserable trip with his whip wrapped around him holding him to the periscope (which for some reason was never lowered.)

And he lost his hat.

Slightly better, but still ridiculous. Even at full speed how long would that trip have taken?
 
2008-06-29 01:27:47 PM
MrGumboPants: I think Peter Jackson deserves all the credit in the world for having lots of CG elements in LotR and the movies still had some kind of emotional punch.

Just because all the hobbits were crying all the time doesn't mean it had an emotional punch.
 
2008-06-29 01:29:45 PM
Personally, I think memes have jumped the shark.

I don't have a name for it - maybe there is one already - but there needs to be a name for the law that states that the moment you acknowledge the hipness of something is the moment it becomes lame.
 
2008-06-29 01:29:58 PM
mikaloyd: amanogowa: Am I missing out on a fact from the past? Were lead lined fridges common? Was advertising that it was lead lined common?

In China you can get lead in anything you want.


And in most things where you don't want.
 
2008-06-29 01:31:47 PM
Mugato: Just because all the hobbits were crying all the time doesn't mean it had an emotional punch.

www.chasingthefrog.com

"You are too much for me Frodo, you sonofahalfling biatch!
I wish I knew how to quit you."
 
2008-06-29 01:34:49 PM
SynthLord: Personally, I think memes have jumped the shark.

I don't have a name for it - maybe there is one already - but there needs to be a name for the law that states that the moment you acknowledge the hipness of something is the moment it becomes lame.


Passe'?
 
2008-06-29 01:35:15 PM
pics.livejournal.com
 
2008-06-29 01:37:25 PM
"Nuking the Fridge" is already old and busted. The new hotness is "Curving the Bullet".
 
2008-06-29 01:38:55 PM
I can't believe I just typed that. I'm gonna go curve a bullet into my brainpan now. See you farkers in hell.
 
2008-06-29 01:39:21 PM
I like "throwing the whale" for when a movie shows WAAAAAY too much in a trailer.

I've avoided watching The Dark Knight previews because I don't want to throw the whale.
 
2008-06-29 01:41:20 PM
Karen Allen just acted and looked SO farkin goofy throughout the movie. I bet she was ecstatic to be in a movie again.
 
2008-06-29 01:41:27 PM
This thread has teh ghey.
 
2008-06-29 01:42:46 PM
I took my son to see the Crystal Skull. I thought the movie was allright. There were three ridiculous things that really hurt the movie, imho.

1. The skulls themselves, which looked nothing like crystal and everything like plastic skulls stuffed with cling wrap.

2. The son swinging on vines through the forest with the monkeys.

3. The fall down three waterfalls with no one getting so much as a scratch.

With those three blindingly stupid things in the movie, I didn't even remember the fridge part. My 7 year old thought the monkey scene was fantastic though.
 
2008-06-29 01:44:13 PM
Amy'd the Winehouse?
 
2008-06-29 01:57:27 PM
carmody: Kingdom of the Crystal Skull is still a better movie than Temple of Doom. Get over it.

Fixed.
 
2008-06-29 01:58:22 PM
PeriRies: Passe'?

You're on the right track, but this is something a little different. Passe' connotes something which has ended its hipness cycle; like, everyone knows pantaloons are passe'. But what do you call the hipness tipping point - the moment at which everyone's acceptance begins the decline?

Or to extend the memeophor© , we all know when something has "jumped the shark", but how else can you say "skis leaving the water"?
 
2008-06-29 02:01:47 PM
LudditeAndroid: I can't believe I just typed that. I'm gonna go curve a bullet into my brainpan now. See you farkers in hell.

360 farking degrees. Jesus that movie was terrible.
 
2008-06-29 02:13:01 PM
LudditeAndroid: "Nuking the Fridge" is already old and busted. The new hotness is "Curving the Bullet".

Seconded.
 
2008-06-29 02:15:01 PM
Jesus, it's like a whiny biatch convention in here.
 
2008-06-29 02:23:15 PM
SynthLord:
Or to extend the memeophor© , we all know when something has "jumped the shark", but how else can you say "skis leaving the water"?


Purchasing the shuttershades?

/got nuthin
 
2008-06-29 02:23:50 PM
I hated Crystal Skull but I actually didn't mind the nuclear blast if only because the shot following it, showing Indy silhouetted against the blast, was very well done, a wake up call for Indy that the world has changed.

However, almost everything after that was absolute garbage. The sword fight on the jeeps was Pirate of the Caribbean: Dead Man's Chest all over again (which wasn't a good movie, either). Swinging from vines Tarzan style was crap, and Indy didn't even do any archaeological sleuthing, with the exception of translating a dead language into Mayan into English in the span of two seconds.

And the argument that aliens should be accepted along side other Indiana Jones disbelief is bullshiat. The problem is that this is other world crap. How the hell can Indy remain an archaeologist when he's met an alien? Doesn't that bring into question everything he's seen before? Can you just meet an alien and then go back to teaching kids about dusty ruins? And how the hell do aliens co-exist with God who created the Ark and the Holy Grail and all that which has come before? But, most of all, aliens are a tired, overdone and boring plot device, especially one that is suppose to end a blockbuster movie. I wouldn't have accepted this as good ending in any movie, let alone an Indiana Jones movie.

As for "nuking the fridge," I'd have sooner gone with "roping the snake." Frankly, that was the scene were I gave up on the movie having being anywhere near decent and stopped looking for bright sides to the torrent of trash spewed forth by two of the most overrated movie makers in Hollywood.
 
2008-06-29 02:25:41 PM
www.phrases.org.uk

Fonzie sez eat it, internet dushbags. Jump the Shark is the new Jump the Shark.

/Ayyyyyyyyyyeeeeeeeeeeeeee
 
2008-06-29 02:27:01 PM
I don't know what either of those phrases mean, and I plan to keep it that way.

Plus, it can't be an internet meme if I haven't heard it 500,000 times, much less once.

Author is an asshat.
 
2008-06-29 02:28:56 PM
TeaforTwo -The car chase at the start was useless. They are at the pinnacle of the Cold War, I'd have shouted "LOOK, BIG BAD RUSSIANS!" in that cafe and saved myself a scene from West Side Story and a dumb car chase. Plus, it would've been more in character for Indy.


That would have made for a great and funny scene and worthy of an Indy flick, right up there with the market scene where Indy shoots the saber guy.

And far as the people saying that they don't understand why some fans can handle a God Box, a Holy guy's Stones and Jesus' sippy cup but refuse to buy aliens, let me try to explain it in another way.

We have had three movies dealing with theology myths that have been around for thousands of years. There have been songs, stories, poems, one of them was used an excuse to start a series of bloody crusades, but in short, they are part of the Human collective. As an archaeologist, Indy can study this. This is his field. That's what made the films compelling to so many people. I know a few people who went to school to study human history simply for the reason because Indy did it.

This new film, however, went away from the formula. We went from thousands of years of myths to basing a script on some modern ramblings of a few people in tin foil hats. There are no pre-Columbian myths dealing with aliens. You can't study this at a university. This is the stuff of sci-fi pulp nonsense. The funny thing is, if it had turned out that the skull wasn't an alien skull but the skull of a Peruvian god, I don't think there would have been such an up roar. Because it would have followed the last three movies' pattern of the ancients communicating with the gods. Not aliens but gods.

Which brings us back to Indy, himself. In the last movies, he was first and for most, Doctor Jones. That is, he was an archaeologist who found himself in the middle of these adventures. He used his brain and his historical know how to track the objects. He had to read ancient scribes. He had trek ruins. He had figure out forgotten clues. In short, despite all the whip throwing, gun shooting, fighting the bad guys, at the heart of it, he was a professor.

Not so in this movie. He comes across a crazy historical skull, loses it and forgets about it. This is so not Doctor Jones. Then if it wasn't Mutt who said, "Hey, we need to go to South America," he would have never found the skull again or even bothered to look for it.

Where was the hunt? Where was the clue searching? Where was the ruin explorer? Where was Doctor Jones?

Make no mistake, I like Indy but I love Doctor Jones.
 
2008-06-29 02:30:41 PM
jafiwam: True memes are created via abiogenesis, not by some geek trying to make one.

You can see this in action every time some whank on Fark spams what they think is the new "Getting a kick out of" meme. Those don't live.

The ones that live a life of their own independent of the people using them, those live. (Big tooth girl, etc.)

This stupidity resides soundly in the former category, not the latter category.

/You'll get used to it.


What are you? 12?

/My own lame attempt at starting a meme. Doomed to failure.
 
2008-06-29 02:30:51 PM
SynthLord: I don't have a name for it - maybe there is one already - but there needs to be a name for the law that states that the moment you acknowledge the hipness of something is the moment it becomes lame.

That's called the "too-cool-for-the-room hipster".
 
2008-06-29 02:31:22 PM
Wulfman: BilltheThrill: How about "mock the disappointed dork"?

I love it.

/voting enabled?


I actually kinda like "Shark the turd tank"
 
2008-06-29 02:32:35 PM
The Loaf: Meh. The nuked fridge wasn't too bad. The thing that killed it were the exterior shots outside of the storage hangar in the opening. There are 4 million places where you could have shot on location within a three-hour drive of Hollywood, yet Lucas made them use a green screen.


/Green screen doesn't look right, ever.


No, Lucas didn't. Lucas helped write the plot. THAT IS ALL. Some moderately-successful guy named Steven actually directed the movie.

You guys are so desperate to spew venom at Lucas you've become laughable.
 
2008-06-29 02:33:53 PM
UberSmyth: And how the hell do aliens co-exist with God who created the Ark and the Holy Grail and all that which has come before?

How can Judeo/Christianity and Hinduism both be right?
 
2008-06-29 02:42:07 PM
carmody: Kingdom of the Crystal Skull is still a better movie than The Last Crusade. Get over it.

An ark full of THIS.
 
2008-06-29 02:43:11 PM
The nuke didn't hit the fake town directly, if it had, the structures would have been vaporized. I think it was set up to determine the effects of the shockwave created by the nuclear explosion several miles away. In the scene we see a long shot of the town and the bomb in the foreground. Town was probably 5-10miles away. Plenty of people survived the atomic attacks on Nagasaki and Hiroshima much closer to the epicenter. Now if only they all had lead lined fridges.

Not saying the scene is anymore plausible, as the tossing of the fridge that far, and the velocity, would have been enough to kill a man.
 
2008-06-29 02:47:17 PM
Everyone who tries to point out the ridiculousness of the previous movies needs to realize one thing: context.

In the other movies, they set things up so it felt right.

Crystal Skull felt disjointed, rushed, and frankly, without the heart of an Indiana Jones film.

When the only thing I can do to reconcile why Indy survived the nuclear explosion in a refrigerator that's been thrown at a good 70mph is that it has something to do with the healing effects of having had a drink from The Grail, that's pushing it.

Especially when you mention in a few minutes after that that the only other person to have drank from The Grail had died.

Seriously, had Henry Jones not been dead, I would've been more able to accept Indy walking away from a nuclear blast unscathed.
 
2008-06-29 02:47:47 PM
Nicotinus: TFA: 'and after the fridge scene, it was like, Oooo-K.'

Apparently the Librarian didn't like it either.


+1. Any Discworld reference is a good one.
 
2008-06-29 02:49:57 PM
Mugato - How can Judeo/Christianity and Hinduism both be right?

First in the Bible, there was God and there were other forms of magic. Look up the Witch of Endor and King Saul. Maybe you can view it as God shares the spotlight with other theological beings. I don't know. That's just a guess. Or you can just realize that in the fictional world of Indiana Jones you can have several gods.

Come one. Seriously, don't go looking for a theological debate or more likely, a fight, when there isn't one.

I highly doubt that there has been a real life event where a Nazi has had his face melted off because he opened the Ark of the Covenant.

/wow.
 
2008-06-29 02:52:04 PM
FunkOut: I want to see X-Files turned into a pulp adventure franchise.

It's been done...

/has seen more of this movie than just the 'official' clips
//Dear God it sucks
///Billy farking Connolly ? Xzibit ??
 
2008-06-29 02:52:49 PM
mark12A: Wouldn't know. Refuse to pay to see the movie. These money grubbers would write sequels to Hamlet starring Bruce Willis if they didn't fear getting poisoned by English Majors working at Starbucks...

Uh... you may have missed this trailer. (new window)

It's not staring Bruce Willis, but it IS Hamlet 2.

/and it looks fantastic
 
2008-06-29 03:00:57 PM
skribble: Amy'd the Winehouse?

I lol'd
 
2008-06-29 03:06:00 PM
mekki: Come one. Seriously, don't go looking for a theological debate or more likely, a fight, when there isn't one.

My point was that the guy was biatching that there can't be God and aliens and I simply pointed out that there's already been a bigger inconsistency in the films and no one biatched about that.

bigd29: Seriously, had Henry Jones not been dead, I would've been more able to accept Indy walking away from a nuclear blast unscathed.

Maybe his dad ran over by a truck or something.
 
2008-06-29 03:06:10 PM
Making up a "cool" phrase to replace another one sounds like something George Constanza would do.
 
2008-06-29 03:23:02 PM
Mugato:

bigd29: Seriously, had Henry Jones not been dead, I would've been more able to accept Indy walking away from a nuclear blast unscathed.

Maybe his dad ran over by a truck or something.


Was it driven by Alex Trebek ? That would've been a good laugh
 
2008-06-29 03:28:40 PM
Desmo: The meme sucks, and so did the giant clear plastic easter egg filled with crinkled aluminum foil.


/This is the only still available. From the side the skull looks like it should be filled with candy.


Too me, the skull looked like it was filled with bubble wrap from some angles. Every time they had a shot of it i wanted to break it open and start popping its enticing innards.

/pop...pop...crackity-pop
 
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