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2008-06-27 08:28:42 AM  
TFA: New Flint Police Chief David Dicks orders police to crack down on sagging pants

If I adjust my monocle, I can see what they did there.
 
2008-06-27 08:36:14 AM  
Some Flint residents are all for busting those who go bottoms out.
"It's overdue," said Sam Berry, 73, of Flint.
Gwendolyn R. Allen, 72, of Flint agreed.
"It's so disgusting ... It's disgraceful."


So when you get hit over the head and your pension check is stolen you can rejoice in the fact that your cops are busy making those young-uns pull up their pants!

/Who's gonna keep them off your lawn, Grampa?
 
2008-06-27 10:07:51 AM  
That's some mighty fine police work, Lou.
 
2008-06-27 10:08:02 AM  
lajimi: So when you get hit over the head and your pension check is stolen you can rejoice in the fact that your cops are busy making those young-uns pull up their pants!

/Who's gonna keep them off your lawn, Grampa?


STFU and pull up those britches! I can see your underpants, for Gawd's sake!!
 
2008-06-27 10:08:32 AM  
I have come to expect this from Jebusland, but since when did Yankees become this stupid?
 
2008-06-27 10:08:41 AM  
Why?

If their pants are hanging off their ass and mostly around their ankles they can't run as fast from the police.
 
2008-06-27 10:08:55 AM  
So when are they just going to go ahead an outlaw black people?

/ducks
 
2008-06-27 10:09:16 AM  
i hate stupid ass people who cant pull their pants up, get rid of the sagging pants wearers and you get rid of some of the crime.
 
2008-06-27 10:09:34 AM  
Baggy pants make yutes run slow--makes them easy to catch. I say, let them be as saggy as they want to be. It can only help the police.
 
2008-06-27 10:10:00 AM  
You know, thats ok with me.

Spend a little less on busting kids on skateboards and folks with the devil weed, and start using those 6' HVAC zip strips as belts to help these kids keep their pants up.

/You're 18 years old, you don't know shiat about shiat, and pull up your pants! (sips my maple nut crunch coffee)
 
2008-06-27 10:10:11 AM  
I find fat, squatty bodied "attractive and successful people of mexican descent" with midriff bearing shirts disgusting and offensive. Since the police want to target offensive styles, why stop with the one that emulates a prison uniform?
 
2008-06-27 10:10:37 AM  
What's really funny, if urban legend proves correct, is that if the origin of baggy pants was pointed out to these fine youths, they'd quickly opt for a different fashion choice.

"It's a prison fashion."
Well, yeah.

"It's a tough-guy image, prison thing."
Well, sort of.

"Actually, it's prison guys who are announcing they're 'available' with quick and easy access to other prison guys."
WIN.
 
2008-06-27 10:10:44 AM  
What a Dick.
 
2008-06-27 10:10:58 AM  
no plumbers have protested yet?
 
2008-06-27 10:11:32 AM  
Let them alone.
I like it when the idiots are clearly labeled.
 
2008-06-27 10:12:14 AM  
Prank Call of Cthulhu: Baggy pants make yutes run slow--makes them easy to catch. I say, let them be as saggy as they want to be. It can only help the police.

Yeah and it looks kinda stupid too. Nothing says 'hard' like your belt sitting below your ass.

/DC thugs crack me up
 
2008-06-27 10:12:39 AM  
degreeless: Why?

If their pants are hanging off their ass and mostly around their ankles they can't run as fast from the police.


Came here to say just that. Great minds and all...whatever.

I honestly don't see the point, it's a hassle having to keep pulling up your pants...that's a lot of work in my opinion.
 
2008-06-27 10:12:44 AM  
If you want to arrest someone, but can't come up with any other grounds... there's always "saggy pants."
 
2008-06-27 10:14:27 AM  
Since many of the individuals that wear their pants around their asses are associated with gang and drug activity I wholeheartedly agree with this policy. If they respected their mommas they'd pull 'em up anyway, instead of tryin' to look like a thug.
 
2008-06-27 10:14:33 AM  
Sagging pants are signs for the pushers/dealers in the drug-deal chain. Subby needs to get out of his mom's basement and realize that fashion reveals one's profession: underground (sagging jeans being druggie) or legitimate (suit and tie being office).

If police crack down on sagging pants, they cut down on drug dealers. At least until a new symbol is thought up and becomes a widely publically known meme.

/Ever seen tied shoes thrown over a power-line? Same dealio.
//the more you know star
 
2008-06-27 10:14:38 AM  
What they need is some PSAs like "say no to crack"
 
2008-06-27 10:16:15 AM  
Uh oh, Michael Moore is farked.
 
2008-06-27 10:16:29 AM  
::shakes fist at Savage Belief:: six seconds!
 
2008-06-27 10:16:57 AM  
the plumbers union is going on strike I guess
 
2008-06-27 10:17:53 AM  
Unfortunately, this move will only solidify this fashion trend. I used to really enjoy seeing a man's butt hugged in denim, even a nice silhouetted man-bubble... Alas, those days are gone, but not forgotten... One day, maybe, HOPEFULLY, guys will start dressing for the ladies and not for each other...
 
2008-06-27 10:18:52 AM  
I was born and raised in Flint, and can't say I am surprised by this development.
 
2008-06-27 10:20:09 AM  
tweekster: So when are they just going to go ahead an outlaw black people?

/ducks


You sir have made my day...
 
Bf+
2008-06-27 10:20:22 AM  
FTA: "This immoral self expression goes beyond free speech"
They're policing morality now?

If they ban the saggy pants fad, who am I supposed to laugh at?
Maybe tying your shoelaces together will be the next fad...
 
2008-06-27 10:20:57 AM  
Fluff Girl: TFA: New Flint Police Chief David Dicks orders police to crack down on sagging pants

If I adjust my monocle, I can see what they did there.


www.firedupmissouri.com
 
2008-06-27 10:21:24 AM  
abillmann: What's really funny, if urban legend proves correct, is that if the origin of baggy pants was pointed out to these fine youths, they'd quickly opt for a different fashion choice.

It is one of those legends that is worth just claiming to be true regardless of whether it is not.

After hearing that story it is hard to take a lot of those guys seriously.

Here is a similar thing: You are only bad until someone changes your theme song (new window)
 
2008-06-27 10:21:38 AM  
I thought Michigan was a blue state, why the fascism
 
2008-06-27 10:21:55 AM  
Seriously, when is this style going to end? This has been going on dam near 20 years now, it isn't even practical. So what do they do? They create the XXXXXXL t-shirt to accommodate it.
 
2008-06-27 10:21:57 AM  
Sobrrr: Unfortunately, this move will only solidify this fashion trend. I used to really enjoy seeing a man's butt hugged in denim, even a nice silhouetted man-bubble... Alas, those days are gone, but not forgotten... One day, maybe, HOPEFULLY, guys will start dressing for the ladies and not for each other...

Hmm no pic in your profile but I'll pull out the Wranglers and 501 anyway... It's gotta be worth a shot!
 
2008-06-27 10:22:22 AM  
Doggiewoggie: If you want to arrest someone, but can't come up with any other grounds... there's always "saggy pants."

and that is easy to "plant" too, just pants the guy then arrest him.
 
2008-06-27 10:22:23 AM  
My bro-in-law, the high school principal, carries a pocketful of nylon zip ties. When he sees sagging pants, he grabs 2 belt loops, pulls them up where Levi Strauss intended, and zip ties them in place.

A couple of parents have called to ask why their kid came home with a zip tie on his pants. After hearing the explanation, several have said, "So I should beat his ass if I find one of these?"
 
2008-06-27 10:22:26 AM  
I just want to know where they buy those hats. Ya know with the bill on the back. And some even have the bill sewn on the side and even at 45 degrees. Help me people. Google isn't my friend on this one.
 
2008-06-27 10:22:28 AM  
Rambino: I have come to expect this from Jebusland, but since when did Yankees become this stupid?

It started a few weeks ago.

Big Cities, huge crime problems = miniscule attacks on small and insignificant portions of the criminal's "culture".

Just wait, Detroit will outlaw Skull Caps and Miami will do away with 24" Spinners.
 
Bf+
2008-06-27 10:22:41 AM  
Sobrrr: Unfortunately, this move will only solidify this fashion trend.

Worse yet, it will create a black market, funneling money into organized crime.
When pants are outlawed, only outlaws will wear pants.

/Don't you hate pants!?
 
2008-06-27 10:23:15 AM  
CnFlght: Sagging pants are signs for the pushers/dealers in the drug-deal chain. Subby needs to get out of his mom's basement and realize that fashion reveals one's profession: underground (sagging jeans being druggie) or legitimate (suit and tie being office).

If police crack down on sagging pants, they cut down on drug dealers. At least until a new symbol is thought up and becomes a widely publically known meme.

/Ever seen tied shoes thrown over a power-line? Same dealio.
//the more you know star


And cars with thier headlights off are gang members too right?

/please be sarcasm
 
2008-06-27 10:23:47 AM  
Flint? I think they got bigger problems than that.

/Only knew Flint thanks to Michael Moore.
 
2008-06-27 10:24:10 AM  
Prank Call of Cthulhu: Baggy pants make yutes run slow--makes them easy to catch. I say, let them be as saggy as they want to be. It can only help the police.

Exactly what I came here to say. I don't see how someone unable to run away quickly would be a problem for police.
 
2008-06-27 10:24:44 AM  
www.tvparty.com
 
2008-06-27 10:25:21 AM  
oldweevil: I was born and raised in Flint, and can't say I am surprised by this development.

I grew up about 45 minutes east of Flint. Used to go to the capital theater for concerts. Spent a lot of time Schwartz Creek too
 
Bf+
2008-06-27 10:25:29 AM  
Wouldn't it be more simple to outlaw youth?
 
2008-06-27 10:25:30 AM  
CnFlght

Sagging pants are signs for the pushers/dealers in the drug-deal chain. Subby needs to get out of his mom's basement and realize that fashion reveals one's profession: underground (sagging jeans being druggie) or legitimate (suit and tie being officewhite collar criminal responsible for fraud, embezzlement, insider trading, etc.).


FTFY
 
2008-06-27 10:27:37 AM  
Bf+: Wouldn't it be more simple to outlaw youth?

That's actually one of John McCain's platforms.
 
2008-06-27 10:28:08 AM  
i26.photobucket.com
Obligatory
 
2008-06-27 10:28:27 AM  
CnFlght

Sagging pants are signs for the pushers/dealers in the drug-deal chain. Subby needs to get out of his mom's basement and realize that fashion reveals one's profession: underground (sagging jeans being druggie) or legitimate (suit and tie being office).

If police crack down on sagging pants, they cut down on drug dealers. At least until a new symbol is thought up and becomes a widely publically known meme.


You're joking, right? What year are you living in? It's fashion. Do you have any idea how trends work? People have been wearing their clothes like this for years. It's just like the one pant leg rolled up urban legend. Sure, it's possible that initially it indicate that someone was holdin', but once it catches on not 1-in-20 people actually are.

This is racial profiling, end of story. And your statement that "saggy pants = druggie" but "suit and tie = law abiding, hard working citizen" is ridiculous. Have you ever heard of, oh I don't know, the mafia? You can keep living in your own little world with your blinders on because you were never one of the cool kids on the block, but when you espouse locking people up just because they're different from you it's fascist and wrong.

You know who else arrested people because they were different?
 
2008-06-27 10:28:48 AM  
I think people are missing the obvious part here.
There is a certain section of the population in which 90% of the people sag their pants.
90% of pant-saggers belong to a certain demographic.
These two groups have a huge overlap.

The demographic in both cases?
No... not "Black people"
Criminals.

The police really don't care much about the pant-sagging.
The police care that if they have a reason to confront a pant-sagger for something... anything... especially something image related... they're going to find out what criminal activity that person was doing.
Cop calls out thug for saggy pants... thug mouths off... cop now gets to arrest and/or pat down thug... thug gets busted for drugs.

This is very much like the "tax evasion" they slapped so many gangsters with back in the heyday.
 
2008-06-27 10:29:13 AM  
Is there a major city not doing this right now?

Personally I have a problem with this. People should be free to express themselves in any way they feel like doing, even if it's makes for bad fashion choices. Besides, if saggy pants were illegal in my town, I would have missed out on seeing that black teenager run across the street, then watch as his sagging pants caused him to trip and fall over in the middle of the street. Bonus: he fell hard enough to bleed. I had to pull the car into the first parking lot I could find because I was laughing so hard.
 
2008-06-27 10:29:33 AM  
Kicksmile ,dunno how many gangs there are in Cincinnati but in Washington, D.C., its bad enough that public schools will send you home if you wear saggy pants. I wish I was being sarcastic but I'm not.
 
BIE
2008-06-27 10:29:37 AM  
It's well known that people who sag their pants have nefarious plans.
 
2008-06-27 10:29:40 AM  
Yo Eazy why you wear your pants like that?
 
2008-06-27 10:29:43 AM  
degreeless: Why?

If their pants are hanging off their ass and mostly around their ankles they can't run as fast from the police.


This. It's a stupid trend, but when did the police become the fashion police? Does saggy pants equal probable cause now?
 
2008-06-27 10:30:43 AM  
Aevum

I think people are missing the obvious part here.
There is a certain section of the population in which 90% of the people sag their pants.
90% of pant-saggers belong to a certain demographic.
These two groups have a huge overlap.

The demographic in both cases?
No... not "Black people"
Criminals.


Source, please. This is conjecture, and patently false conjecture at that. Prove me wrong.
 
2008-06-27 10:31:42 AM  
The very groups most likely to have to flee police beatings or gang shootings are the ones wearing pants that make it practically impossible to do so. You'd expect camo jogging pants or something.

How long before this fashion gets darwinned out of them?
 
2008-06-27 10:31:58 AM  
AmyOpteryx

www.teamdrunkottawa.com
 
BIE
2008-06-27 10:32:31 AM  
Onkel Buck: Yo Eazy why you wear your pants like that?

Funniest thing about that video that they probably didn't think of:

He's behind prison bars as he answers that question. Beautiful.

/then he got the GAIDS
 
2008-06-27 10:33:07 AM  
Billygoat Gruff: I thought Michigan was a blue state, why the fascism

They're Reagan Democrats. In other words - they're fascists who vote for whoever their union endorses.
 
2008-06-27 10:33:09 AM  
Tweekster: It is one of those legends that is worth just claiming to be true regardless of whether it is not.

After hearing that story it is hard to take a lot of those guys seriously.

Here is a similar thing: You are only bad until someone changes your theme song (new window)


THAT was HILARIOUS!!!

As for Sapper Topo, don't tease me bro...
 
2008-06-27 10:34:09 AM  
You think these kids have sagging pants . . . Ya otta see my plumber. You don't wanna smoke the kind of crack he has.
 
2008-06-27 10:35:06 AM  
Rambino: I have come to expect this from Jebusland, but since when did Yankees become this stupid?

Since stupidity wasn't region-specific. Thankfully, self-righteous indignation is still somewhat confined to an area north of the Mason-Dixon.
 
2008-06-27 10:35:21 AM  
BIE: Onkel Buck: Yo Eazy why you wear your pants like that?

Funniest thing about that video that they probably didn't think of:

He's behind prison bars as he answers that question. Beautiful.

/then he got the GAIDS


I LOL'd I didnt think about it either! +1 good looking out.
 
2008-06-27 10:35:57 AM  
ga362:I just want to know where they buy those hats. Ya know with the bill on the back. And some even have the bill sewn on the side and even at 45 degrees. Help me people. Google isn't my friend on this one.

Ha, I went to a picnic at my brothers' house, his son was wearing a visor upside down and backwards. I wondered allowed to him that maybe these visors needed to include some instructions for their effective use. Never saw him wear it again.
 
2008-06-27 10:36:08 AM  
Prank Call of Cthulhu: Baggy pants make yutes run slow--makes them easy to catch. I say, let them be as saggy as they want to be. It can only help the police.

The two what?
 
2008-06-27 10:37:54 AM  
but they can still dance right? if they want to?
 
2008-06-27 10:37:57 AM  
Criminals? Many of the kids at any given high school wear saggy pants and show off their boxers. They're not criminals, they're stupid kids showing of their fake individuality, like goths, emos, punks, preps, jocks, etc. They're "thugs". Bucking the sytem by setting up their own, and saying it's better then doin' what "the man" tells them to do.

Criminals, no. Stupid kids, yes.
 
2008-06-27 10:38:26 AM  
Also born and raised in Flint, live just south of there now.. what a disgrace.

Of course, I expect nothing less, since Flint is currently mayored by a bigger crook than Detroit in Don Williamson who was such a conniving car dealer (yup, thats right, Flints Mayors previous vocation was a washed up car dealer) that General Motors wouldn't allow him to sell Caddillacs at any of his dealerships. Now his fat cow of a wife runs the dealership, she ran for State representative, and lost, thank god, now I hear Williamson is gunning for Governor of Michigan. -sigh-

Yup, two of the top 3 most dangerous cities in the entire USA, the Big 3 are leaving like the soil is contaminated, crooks run offices of the people, highest unemployment in the Nation, worst business outlook in the nation.. yup, it's farked up here.

And it's coming soon to a town or city near you.
 
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2008-06-27 10:39:27 AM  
Bf+:

/Don't you hate pants!?


This.
 
2008-06-27 10:40:55 AM  
Sobrrr: Unfortunately, this move will only solidify this fashion trend. I used to really enjoy seeing a man's butt hugged in denim, even a nice silhouetted man-bubble... Alas, those days are gone, but not forgotten... One day, maybe, HOPEFULLY, guys will start dressing for the ladies and not for each other...

Fashion has regularly been a way to show wealth and position in society. This goes back for many many years.

In 1942 the U.S. Production Board issued Limitation Order 85 (L-85). This order's goal was to save 15 percent of domestic fabric production, as well as more than forty million pounds of wool cloth. It was lifted may 8 1945. It limited everything, no pleats, showes couldnt have a heel over 1.5 inches. Cuffs, double pleats, patch pockets, all banned.

The good news is that this applied to womens bathing suits and this is when the two piece bathing suit became more popular. So some good did come out of this! This was also the framework for shorter skirts, again a bonus.

This however is what brought the zoot suit, with its exaggerated shoulders, knee length jackets, baggy, cuffed pants, the zoot suit flouted the L-85 restrictions.

So baggy clothes have been the sign of a "rebel" for 50+ years. It was particularly popular with young men in the Hispanic communities of California, as well as among musicians.

Unfortunately, in Los Angeles men wearing zoot suits became targets of aggression from military personnel. Zoot-suiters were stopped, humiliated, beaten up and stripped. Los Angeles police did nothing to enforce the laws protecting the zoot-suiters. Instead, they arrested the beaten, naked men for disturbing the peace. In June of 1943 the situation escalated and Los Angeles experienced serious riots, stopped only when the War Department made Los Angeles out-of-bounds for all military personnel.

Things didnt end well the last time they tried a fashion ban, wonder how they will end up this time.
 
2008-06-27 10:41:26 AM  
that the goddamned xtian pretard answer for everything...abuse/destroy some group, by adopting some authoritarian dipshiat position that has nothing to do with anything...totalitarian shiat for brains asshats.

the real war should be against goddamned xtian pretard lies and abuse.
 
2008-06-27 10:41:47 AM  
Drakuun: Also born and raised in Flint, live just south of there now.. what a disgrace.

Of course, I expect nothing less, since Flint is currently mayored by a bigger crook than Detroit in Don Williamson who was such a conniving car dealer (yup, thats right, Flints Mayors previous vocation was a washed up car dealer) that General Motors wouldn't allow him to sell Caddillacs at any of his dealerships. Now his fat cow of a wife runs the dealership, she ran for State representative, and lost, thank god, now I hear Williamson is gunning for Governor of Michigan. -sigh-

Yup, two of the top 3 most dangerous cities in the entire USA, the Big 3 are leaving like the soil is contaminated, crooks run offices of the people, highest unemployment in the Nation, worst business outlook in the nation.. yup, it's farked up here.

And it's coming soon to a town or city near you.


Mike in the Morning on 101.1 WRIF ( I listen on-line) said Hollywood is going to Michigan more to make movies. So you got that going for ya
 
2008-06-27 10:42:08 AM  
i can't find the viddy right now but a while back (a year maybe?) there was a security camera tape on the news of these guys running out of a casino shooting as they went ... one memorable guy has a pistol in one hand firing away while his other hand is busy holding up his saggy ass pants so he can run and won't get tripped up when they fall ...

sooooo ...

let's leave the saggy pants alone (even tho i do personally find them asinine -- small pun intended) since as mentioned they do seem to slow these thugs down and they can't carry two guns at once, less firepower lol

/hate pants hanging like that
//pull your pants up
///and get off my lawn
 
2008-06-27 10:43:18 AM  
CnFlght: Kicksmile ,dunno how many gangs there are in Cincinnati but in Washington, D.C., its bad enough that public schools will send you home if you wear saggy pants. I wish I was being sarcastic but I'm not.

Cincinnati doesn't have as much a problem with gangs as it does bowties and chilidogs. We're we talking about gangs or dealers, I'm confused.

/need a fix
//dont want to ask the wrong guy
 
2008-06-27 10:43:40 AM  
Trollomite: Obligatory

I live my life solely for the thoughts of seeing someone like that fall flat on their face.
 
BIE
2008-06-27 10:43:50 AM  
Khellendros: Criminals? Many of the kids at any given high school wear saggy pants and show off their boxers. They're not criminals, they're stupid kids showing of their fake individuality, like goths, emos, punks, preps, jocks, etc. They're "thugs". Bucking the sytem by setting up their own, and saying it's better then doin' what "the man" tells them to do.

Criminals, no. Stupid kids, yes.


Well, come on, we can all probably agree that they're probably criminals right? And that's probably good enough to justify an arrest here and there.

Seriously, if your pants are around your ankles you need to prove that you're neither gay (which is also illegal, i believe) nor planning to steal my bike.
 
2008-06-27 10:46:59 AM  
Progress:

You're joking, right? What year are you living in? It's fashion. Do you have any idea how trends work? People have been wearing their clothes like this for years. It's just like the one pant leg rolled up urban legend. Sure, it's possible that initially it indicate that someone was holdin', but once it catches on not 1-in-20 people actually are.

This is racial profiling, end of story. And your statement that "saggy pants = druggie" but "suit and tie = law abiding, hard working citizen" is ridiculous. Have you ever heard of, oh I don't know, the mafia? You can keep living in your own little world with your blinders on because you were never one of the cool kids on the block, but when you espouse locking people up just because they're different from you it's fascist and wrong.

You know who else arrested people because they were different?


D'oh! Godwinned!

My cool world with blinders says if one is wearing a clothing style, you admit in your own words, that reveals drug activity one should look into the individual emulating the fashionable ethos. That means if it looks like a duck it is a duck.

Oh no, 19 kids were dumb enough to wear gangesque clothing and were harassed by the police! Cry me a river, build a bridge and get the fark over it. Gangsta lifestyle which is so fashionable ends up one of two ways in reality: 1)dead 2)prison. I could go on into about how gangs are really an inner city's law-and-order, filling in the void where federal and city government have abandoned them but that doesn't make it right.

It isn't racial profiling, its fashion profiling. I fail to see how saggy pants fit racial profiling. Remember that South Park episode with the SP flag? The kids didn't see it as racist, just violent. I don't see sagging as racist, just criminal.

And mafia wearing suits and ties? Those are the big guys at the top. The ones pushing the drugs on the street level, nah, not so much. Real life doesn't follow Hollywood caricatures. Maroon.
 
2008-06-27 10:48:54 AM  
Patmaniac: I wondered allowed to him

Allow me.
 
2008-06-27 10:48:56 AM  
The sky is blue

Progress :Source, please. This is conjecture, and patently false conjecture at that. Prove me wrong.

See what I did there?
I am not usedto locating or citing sources for things that Romero would cry obvious on.

Day after day here on Fark we have stories of the "evil government" trying to get more totalitarian. People go all tin foil about telecom spying and laptop searches at the border.
It makes perfect sense to suggest that someone was smart and vicious enough to make up something that lets them search people.

Sure, it's fashion.
The fashion you choose says stuff about you.
My highly visible tats, torn jeans, and the fact that I carry openly; all say things about me. Taken together (and if you're not just being a douche) they say a lot about me.
The outfits I wear to work hide a lot about me. They're a costume to make me acceptable to the corporate overlords.

Saggy pants are based on criminal culture.
Those who wear them want to advertise that they are criminals.
They may or may not be one (I mean a real one. It's hard not to break some minor law or another these days), but they want everyone to think they are.
When people treat you like what you look like, you don't get mad, you smile... because you look like that on purpose.
If you think that people shouldn't treat you like what you look like... then you're an idiot... which gets you treated like what you look like.
 
2008-06-27 10:49:22 AM  
Ghetto/gutter/'groe stuff should always be discouraged.
 
2008-06-27 10:49:47 AM  
fav quote of all time:
"So, is Dicks going too far?"

I read that as a british accent even.
Put the emphasis on the first word...
 
2008-06-27 10:50:23 AM  
dfxdeimos: Prank Call of Cthulhu: Baggy pants make yutes run slow--makes them easy to catch. I say, let them be as saggy as they want to be. It can only help the police.

The two what?


defendants
 
2008-06-27 10:52:25 AM  
tweekster: So when are they just going to go ahead an outlaw black people?

/ducks


Works for me.
 
2008-06-27 10:52:31 AM  
kicksmile

You really can't talk about one without the other. Gangs are the organizations set up to protect a drug-distributing territory and expand the market area where they can sell without competitors.

Gang A makes a profit off of selling crack in neighborhood X. Gang B sells in neighborhood Y. Gang A moves into neighborhood Y, killing gang B members as they see them, until gang B is pushed out of the area. Gang A then makes a double profit selling crack in neighborhood X and neighborhood Y.

Gangs are the ultimate capitalistic corporation, killing off competitive rivals and securing a monopoly for their product.

Sure, there are your fauxlittle gang-wannabes, but for real gangs, its all about drug money. Why the hell do you think the two are always correlated?

/mmm bowties. My old boss loved them. And suspenders.
 
2008-06-27 10:52:38 AM  
Prank Call of Cthulhu: Baggy pants make yutes run slow--makes them easy to catch. I say, let them be as saggy as they want to be. It can only help the police.

Also, the low-hanging pants make for easier identification.

See, the fellas, they know their underoos are gonna show when they're shuffling down the street, so they make sure they look all nice and flash, impress the ladies with the cut of their Fruit of the Looms.

Now the cops, when they're chasing someone down said street, don't get to say "suspect has on a white shirt and jeans" - that's not too descriptive in a group of white shirts and jeans. Instead, they get to say "suspect is wearing white shirt, jeans, and green underwear with gold dollar sign print and a white waistband".

/mighty find police work
 
2008-06-27 10:53:22 AM  
Savage Belief: Since many of the individuals that wear their pants around their asses are associated with gang and drug activity I wholeheartedly agree with this policy. If they respected their mommas they'd pull 'em up anyway, instead of tryin' to look like a thug.

CnFlght: Sagging pants are signs for the pushers/dealers in the drug-deal chain. Subby needs to get out of his mom's basement and realize that fashion reveals one's profession: underground (sagging jeans being druggie) or legitimate (suit and tie being office).

If police crack down on sagging pants, they cut down on drug dealers. At least until a new symbol is thought up and becomes a widely publically known meme.

/Ever seen tied shoes thrown over a power-line? Same dealio.
//the more you know star


I lol'd.
 
2008-06-27 10:53:49 AM  
Progress: This is racial profiling, end of story.

It is racial profiling, by you...end of story. You're claiming that race causes certain people to dress a certain way. You're the racist, pal.
 
2008-06-27 10:55:34 AM  
How messed up...

They should really focus on all of the crack heads and real problems in that area instead of wasting time with crap like this.
 
2008-06-27 10:55:57 AM  
roflmao Chief Dicks????? Oh my goodness. Chief Dicks rants about buttcracks and baggy pant exposure. Hmmmm. *does not want to connect the dots on that one.*
 
2008-06-27 10:56:37 AM  
mattknows: tweekster: So when are they just going to go ahead an outlaw black people?

/ducks

Works for me.


We'd get a lot further by outlawing bigots. Of course, we'd have to build a whole lot more prisons.
 
2008-06-27 11:00:11 AM  
Thursday that officers will begin arresting people wearing pants or shorts that sag too low exposing rear ends.

I've never seen a guy walking around with sagging pants that were exposing his naked ass, they always have another pair of something covering their ass. I can't see how you can arrest for indecent exposure because of that. This is just harassment of a particular group of people.

Do the police take an oath to hold up the constitution or do they just take an oath to follow whatever idiocy happens to pass at a given time anyone know?
 
2008-06-27 11:00:59 AM  
Sagging pants for some, soylent green for others!
 
2008-06-27 11:02:03 AM  
this is the dumbest thing ever, has this douche thought this out. So what if he gets his way, thuggs start wearing belts, ramifications will be; Harder to spot idiots because their ass isn't showing, Officers will become more tired chaseing down suspects because their pants being pulled up they are alot less likely to trip in the first few steps when there pants hit there ankles.

To me just goes to show the cops are as dumb as the criminals... wait thats obvious, look at their math skills with estimation of value of drugs.
 
2008-06-27 11:02:31 AM  
Just a note to those living outside of cities (you know, about 55% of the population): In mid and small town America, the bulk of the saggy pants crews are white. In number and percentage. Go visit any suburb or small town. The schools are 75% or more white, and a far greater percentage of white than nonwhite are wearing the stupid pants.

In cities, it's more racially slanted, but not in the bulk of the U.S.
 
2008-06-27 11:03:30 AM  
If they do that, what fun will it be to watch COPS?
I like when the morans run and they trip on their own pants.
 
2008-06-27 11:07:11 AM  
If gangstas were smart, they'd join the military. They have the desire to belong to a group with a common cause, they don't mind violence, they already have the haircut AND they would get to use the big guns and get paid for it while they tour around the world, all the while, securing a brighter future for themselves and their country.
 
2008-06-27 11:09:22 AM  
"It's overdue," said Sam Berry, 73, of Flint.

Now there's a shocker!
 
2008-06-27 11:10:49 AM  
CnFlght: *snip*
/Ever seen tied shoes thrown over a power-line? Same dealio.
//the more you know star

Cool. I always wondered why people did that and now I know. i assumed it was a high school prank kind of thing.
 
2008-06-27 11:11:00 AM  
I hope they don't outlaw saggy pants. Saggy pants are a daily source of laughter for me. I crack up every time I see some skinny white kid from the suburbs goin' all gangsta with his hat sideways and his saggy pants on walking like a penguin.
 
2008-06-27 11:11:34 AM  
Khellendros: Just a note to those living outside of cities (you know, about 55% of the population): In mid and small town America, the bulk of the saggy pants crews are white. In number and percentage. Go visit any suburb or small town. The schools are 75% or more white, and a far greater percentage of white than nonwhite are wearing the stupid pants.

In cities, it's more racially slanted, but not in the bulk of the U.S.


True as that may be, I don't see it making much of an impression on the mouthbreathering closet racists jumping around in this thread. They seem to ignore what you mentioned, which anyone living in this country or with a tv should know, and jump right to the racist garbage, which is the usual for Fark. Kind of sad but typical, too.
 
2008-06-27 11:11:44 AM  
It's so they don't have to be creative and try to solve real societal problems..
 
2008-06-27 11:12:10 AM  
Definitely going to lead to a lot of "your word against the officer's" type courtroom scenarios
 
2008-06-27 11:13:19 AM  
ga362: I just want to know where they buy those hats. Ya know with the bill on the back. And some even have the bill sewn on the side and even at 45 degrees. Help me people. Google isn't my friend on this one.

roflmao

/there's a shop at my local Mall called Lids that sells all kinds of hats. Mebbe you can special order the fancy reverse-bill ones there. :D
 
2008-06-27 11:16:19 AM  
can someone explain to me the whole, "sagging skinny jeans" thing?
 
2008-06-27 11:17:35 AM  
Progress
This is racial profiling, end of story.

I didn't know clothing had a race.

/Dumbass
 
2008-06-27 11:17:41 AM  
Sobrrr: If gangstas were smart, they'd join the military. They have the desire to belong to a group with a common cause, they don't mind violence, they already have the haircut AND they would get to use the big guns and get paid for it while they tour around the world, all the while, securing a brighter future for themselves and their country.

Some do, infact the military releases an annual report of current gang members in its ranks and the number has risen over the years. They do it for training, and the potential to make some deals that would be profitable (ie smuggling, theft of weapons, etc). Mostly though its the training, especially with armed combat. Granted its still a low percentage of all gang members, but they are sending more and more in officially.
 
2008-06-27 11:17:50 AM  
thanks for the choccy eye candy. :D
 
2008-06-27 11:18:54 AM  
I was at a meeting where the policy was announced. Someone asked about ultra short skirts. Before the Chief could reply, I said: "That's different". Butt cracks - NO. Micro-micro miniskirts - OK.

It's not a new law, BTW, they're just interpreting and enforcing the indecent exposure ordinance.


/ yeah, I live in Flint
// I speak softly & carry a loaded 45
 
2008-06-27 11:18:55 AM  
So, is Dicks going too far?

Or is Dicks not going far enough?


/hur hur. penis
 
2008-06-27 11:19:26 AM  
bigglady: thanks for the choccy eye candy. :D

/dayum. That was aimed at Trollomite. My bad.
 
2008-06-27 11:21:12 AM  
Khellendros: Just a note to those living outside of cities (you know, about 55% of the population): In mid and small town America, the bulk of the saggy pants crews are white. In number and percentage. Go visit any suburb or small town. The schools are 75% or more white, and a far greater percentage of white than nonwhite are wearing the stupid pants.

In cities, it's more racially slanted, but not in the bulk of the U.S.


90% of the population of the US lives in 10% of its geography, the remaining 90% of the geography is desert, forest, or farm land. So I do not believe that 55% live outside of cities, but then I count the suburbs as cities since um well they are.

Perhaps you meant inner cities. If that is the case then its likely that its more than 55% that live outside that.
 
2008-06-27 11:23:21 AM  
So far I have learned that baggie pants = gay prison street dru
g dealer and biz suites = white collar criminal.
 
2008-06-27 11:25:17 AM  
Wait, if they outlaw baggy pants, then only the outlaws will have baggy pants?
 
2008-06-27 11:25:26 AM  
Chief is stupid because there are better things for the cops to be doing.
People are stupid because they think the law targets black people.
Thugs are stupid because they think saggy pants are cool.
 
2008-06-27 11:26:37 AM  
trappedspirit: Wait, if they outlaw baggy pants, then only the outlaws will have baggy pants?

proof that only criminals wear baggy pants, and so it is probably cause!
 
2008-06-27 11:26:38 AM  
trixter_nl: Khellendros: Just a note to those living outside of cities (you know, about 55% of the population): In mid and small town America, the bulk of the saggy pants crews are white. In number and percentage. Go visit any suburb or small town. The schools are 75% or more white, and a far greater percentage of white than nonwhite are wearing the stupid pants.

In cities, it's more racially slanted, but not in the bulk of the U.S.

90% of the population of the US lives in 10% of its geography, the remaining 90% of the geography is desert, forest, or farm land. So I do not believe that 55% live outside of cities, but then I count the suburbs as cities since um well they are.

Perhaps you meant inner cities. If that is the case then its likely that its more than 55% that live outside that.


I apologize, I was using the "voting district" division of city/suburb/township/small town, etc that most census analysts use for demographic purposes. By those splits, cities hold roughly 45% of population. But you are correct, the actual definition of city includes most municipalities listed as "towns" and "suburbs", as defined by ICMA and the bulk state municipal associations.
 
2008-06-27 11:27:42 AM  
CnFlght: If police crack down on sagging pants, they cut down on drug dealers.

Savage Belief: Since many of the individuals that wear their pants around their asses are associated with gang and drug activity I wholeheartedly agree with this policy.

Then why don't the police INSTEAD bust them for... you know... drug dealing and gang activity. I'm sure whatever sentence those charges bring would be a lot better for society than the ticket or whatever you get for having saggy pants.
 
2008-06-27 11:28:32 AM  
*decides Dicks is a bored dick who needs to move to NYC. Wanders off to icanhascheezburger for private Caterday hilarity.*
 
2008-06-27 11:30:09 AM  
trixter_nl: Doggiewoggie: If you want to arrest someone, but can't come up with any other grounds... there's always "saggy pants."

and that is easy to "plant" too, just pants the guy then arrest him.


lulz.
 
2008-06-27 11:30:52 AM  
Begoggle: I'm sure whatever sentence those charges bring would be a lot better for society than the ticket or whatever you get for having saggy pants.


No... just tell them to pull up thier pants they look like idiots. Fine them if they don't. Then tase them.
 
2008-06-27 11:32:05 AM  
Billygoat Gruff: I thought Michigan was a blue state, why the fascism

Fascism is a branch of socialism.

Seriously, guys, take some history classes or something. It's kind of vicariously embarassing to watch people make this mistake over and over.
 
2008-06-27 11:32:25 AM  
Um, let me get this straight. Wearing droopy pants is a way of advertising the fact that you are a drug dealer. Drug dealing is illegal. Wouldn't it be best for a drug dealer to try to not look like a drug dealer? This would be a good way to blend in and avoid further scrutiny from law enforcement.

/maybe I think too much
 
2008-06-27 11:33:49 AM  
2 words to sum this up:

PROBABLE CAUSE
 
2008-06-27 11:36:55 AM  
Seriously. Is there any way I can make a career out of traveling around and administering drop kicks to idiots like this?
 
BIE
2008-06-27 11:36:57 AM  
Progress: This is racial profiling, end of story.

So? ....

Link (new window)

No seriously. I'm kidding. But I got curious and checked out the stats. Damn that's some sad shiat right there. I mean I always knew there was a disparity, but I had no idea that in 1998 one out of every three black men b/w 20-29 were in prison or jail, on probation or parole on any given day.
 
2008-06-27 11:39:53 AM  
Ray44512: Um, let me get this straight. Wearing droopy pants is a way of advertising the fact that you are a drug dealer.

Except that it's not. It's a stereotype. Almost an urban legend. It's fashion BS, like all other forms of "indivduality" that get created. Are all punks advertising the overthrow of the government and anarchy? Are all goths advertising self-destruction and suicide? No. It's just a way to fit in with a group by dressing and acting alike. Thugs dress in droopy drawers and shiny sneakers because it helps them fit in with other thugs in droopy drawers.

The advertising and popular culture around any of these images glorify something illegal and counter-cultural, but there's no significant statistical difference in the number of people that acutally participate in the stereotype.
 
2008-06-27 11:42:07 AM  
CnFlght

Sagging pants are signs for the pushers/dealers in the drug-deal chain. Subby needs to get out of his mom's basement and realize that fashion reveals one's profession: underground (sagging jeans being druggie) or legitimate (suit and tie being office).

Clearly, you've never lived in California.

Baggy jeans = CEO, druggie, whomever (we blur the lines)
Suit and tie = in town on business from the east coast

/my work uniform is funny t-shirts, mandated by Boss so that everyone else can laugh
 
2008-06-27 11:43:58 AM  
I don't understand why (other than stupidity) the authorities anywhere would want to get rid of the saggy pants thing. Apparently, it makes the criminals easier to catch. Seriously, I think a few of those stories have been on Fark.
 
2008-06-27 11:52:19 AM  
theoriginalslash: I don't understand why (other than stupidity) the authorities anywhere would want to get rid of the saggy pants thing. Apparently, it makes the criminals easier to catch. Seriously, I think a few of those stories have been on Fark.

Got any links? Just wondering, I see this meme repeated so often I'm curious to see some actual articles where this really happened. Seems usually what they're wearing isn't often a factor, the terrain and the abilities of the officers giving chase are usually what counts.
 
2008-06-27 12:06:53 PM  
Why isn't this crap outlawed by default? If I wandered around with my tighty whities showing to everyone, I'd be arrested. I suppose, if I put on some boxers and became black, then some racist farkholes would defend me being obscene and disgusting.

Yes, that's right, racist. Defending black men's 'right' to expose themselves like drunk, pedophile savages is racist.
 
2008-06-27 12:06:57 PM  
Savage Belief: Since many of the individuals that wear their pants around their asses are associated with gang and drug activity I wholeheartedly agree with this policy.

Then why don't the police INSTEAD bust them for... you know... drug dealing and gang activity. I'm sure whatever sentence those charges bring would be a lot better for society than the ticket or whatever you get for having saggy pants.


Ray44512

Um, let me get this straight. Wearing droopy pants is a way of advertising the fact that you are a drug dealer. Drug dealing is illegal. Wouldn't it be best for a drug dealer to try to not look like a drug dealer? This would be a good way to blend in and avoid further scrutiny from law enforcement.

/maybe I think too much

Death_Poot

2 words to sum this up:

PROBABLE CAUSE


Savage: You need, as Death Poot said, probable cause to go after those suspected of gang activity. If a cop sees a man loitering on the corner of the street, he can't assume 'gang activity' and rightfully so. But, now, if a cop sees a man loitering on a streeet corner with sagging pants, he has probable cause to pat him down for drugs, paraphernalia and weapons. Read 'No Lights, No sirens: story of an undercover cop'. It describes how police are actually hamstrung by probable cause when they KNOW some jackoff did something but they don't have the ability to get them into a courtroom setting because of lack of probable cause.

This is why the cops always tell you to spit out drugs idiots eat on seizure. They tell you you're going to die to scare you into spitting them out because eating drugs = no drugs (duh) but also means no probable cause, no arrest, no record, no nothing.

Ray44512:
Drug dealers need to advertise to potential buyers. Its up to the buyer to ask for drugs so they make themselves visible. Its a calculated risk but, up until now, it wasn't a huge risk for them as they could always scream profiling if a cop detained them on suspicion of drug dealing. Saggy pants are now an official probable cause for drug dealing so now the risk for them just got higher.

Maybe I should explain why I'm for this policy.

I hate real, hard-core drugs. I grew up in Galveston, TX, and heard automatic gunfire nightly from gangs. And, no, I couldn't move somewhere else because my dad had a good job and part of the deal was living where we did. I was taught, as part of the curriculum, how to survive a drive-by shooting in fifth grade. I saw dead bodies in the gutters.

Gangs are cowards and lowest of the low, fighting for street territory to push drugs. Its a tax-free multi-million dollar game for those at the top of the hierarchy which is why people are willing to kill and die for it. 'Freakanomics' had a great essay on the economics of gang warfare. I say any more legal power given to cops to fight these selfish motherfarkers is good.
 
2008-06-27 12:10:35 PM  
Headso
This is just harassment of a particular group of people.

Sounds good to me.

It's on the level of 'If you don't want a visit by the cops, don't stand in the middle of the McDonalds parking lot screaming at the space aliens'. As I tried to indicate above, in sane parts of the world, people who can't keep their pants up in public tend to be taken away.
 
2008-06-27 12:13:04 PM  
CnFlght: Sagging pants are signs for the pushers/dealers in the drug-deal chain.

Wow. Apparently, 1/3 of my district's high school population is in the drug-deal chain. Who knew?
 
2008-06-27 12:15:17 PM  
Call me racist, but if I see a kid with baggy pants on a corner, I lock my doors. Anyone that stupid to think looking like that is "cool" is obviously dumb enough to rob someone.
 
2008-06-27 12:15:47 PM  
ArcadianRefugee
CnFlght: Sagging pants are signs for the pushers/dealers in the drug-deal chain.

Wow. Apparently, 1/3 of my district's high school population is in the drug-deal chain. Who knew?


That's not what he said shiathead.
 
2008-06-27 12:19:10 PM  
CnFlght Since you seem to have the problem all figured out then why arent you stopping all this crime? Maybe because it isnt as simple as the information you have. Maybe there are greater forces at work that push the poundage of drugs in this country. Perhaps you are a victim of urban ledgend, perhaps people really do sell drugs where highschool/college kids toss shoes over lines, I cant say. What I can say is that if drug dealers all wore uniforms and sold at obvious locations we wouldnt still have a problem.

That being said you need to GIS Cincinnati Bowtie(necktie) and Cincinnati Chili dog, preferably with the filter off and not at work (you missed my joke).

/end rant
 
2008-06-27 12:28:29 PM  
Isn't is out of fashion yet to declare "war" on everything?

I guess you don't sound enough like an asshole with a "new policy".

DEATH TO YOUNG PEOPLE AND COUNTERCULTURE!
 
2008-06-27 12:29:25 PM  
Begoggle
Then why don't the police INSTEAD bust them for... you know... drug dealing and gang activity. I'm sure whatever sentence those charges bring would be a lot better for society than the ticket or whatever you get for having saggy pants.

Because having saggy pants would give the cops probable cause to approach someone who may be dealing based on the fact that they are wearing saggy pants.

Scenario 1 Without Saggy Pants Law: Man on the corner wearing saggy pants, could be a dealer or not, but since we (the cops) didn't see any suspicious activity we do not have probable cause to interrogate.

Scenario 2 With Saggy Pants Law: Man on the corner wearing saggy pants, could be a dealer or not, but since he's wearing saggy pants, we have probable cause to approach and investigate further.

Simple enough?
 
2008-06-27 12:31:57 PM  
Jim_Callahan

Fascism is a branch of socialism.

Seriously, guys, take some history classes or something. It's kind of vicariously embarassing to watch people make this mistake over and over.


I think you're the one that needs a history course. Fascism is NOT a branch of socialism.

Fascism is an authoritarian dictatorship of the right.

It's easy to figure out when you look at virulent anti-communists like Hitler, Mussolini, Franco, etc.

And before someone accuses me of being a "libtard",
Stalin, Mao, and Pol Pot would be examples of authoritarian dictatorships of the left. Notice that nationalism and especially racism play a bigger part in the fascist state, whereas the dictatorships on the left tend to be classist rather than racist. Other than that, authoritarian dictatorships tend to have very similar policies, whether on the right or the left.
 
2008-06-27 12:41:58 PM  
It's not the baggy pants! It's the people wearing the baggy pants! You lock up every person wearing pants at mid-thigh and I bet your crime rate in the city that night goes to zero.

Is that racist? I hope not - because baggy pants know no color. Plenty of white idiots do it too....
 
2008-06-27 12:55:59 PM  
Kicksmile:

Since you seem to have the problem all figured out then why arent you stopping all this crime? Maybe because it isnt as simple as the information you have. Maybe there are greater forces at work that push the poundage of drugs in this country. Perhaps you are a victim of urban ledgend, perhaps people really do sell drugs where highschool/college kids toss shoes over lines, I cant say. What I can say is that if drug dealers all wore uniforms and sold at obvious locations we wouldnt still have a problem.

That being said you need to GIS Cincinnati Bowtie(necktie) and Cincinnati Chili dog, preferably with the filter off and not at work (you missed my joke).

/end rant


I'm not claiming I have the solution to solving all crime. I'm pointing out trends which are associated with crime.

I know there are greater forces pushing the poundage of drugs in this country. It's not just the street-pushing pawns, its everything from the Columbian FARC, which funds itself through selling cocaine, to the crooked cop, who skims off drug money to look the other way. Its a huge mess.

Look, I know its not urban legend. I've seen take downs and drug stings first hand. One was walking across a parking lot of a Kroger, girlfriend's hand in mine, and a guy in baggy pants has three cops cars pull up, cops jump out with guns pointed, (we sprint out of the possible field of fire) and force him to the ground. Maybe it was just coincidence.

Pushers don't wear uniforms but they also aren't completely neutral blend-in-background. Ghettos have tags, signs, fashion and more. Its called street-sense and good cops can learn to read it just like anything else. Unfortunately, they are the modern-day cool, 'bad boys' of the slums so younger kids emulate their style. Fighting the man, packing heat, slinging etc...

Alot of times obvious locations are left alone by cops so they can gather evidence before making a move. Evidence, habeas corpus, is everything in the American court system. If you don't have enough you waste taxpayer's money working a sting and the follow-up prosecuting.

And yeah, I thought you were talking about food not scat fetishes. Silly me.
 
2008-06-27 01:00:10 PM  
I don't find baggy pants to be offensive. I'm with the crowd that points and laughs.

I guess I am a tinfoil hatter too, in that I don't think people should be profiled by their manner of dress. If cops can't come up with a case against drug dealers, they need to try harder, not just search their saggy shorts. Most of the kids I see around here are just wannabes anyway.

My 17 yo tried to buy pants like that last year, and I wouldn't allow it. I told him he looked like a dumbass. Straight up and honest with him. If more parents took this approach, there would be fewer kids wearing saggy pants.
 
2008-06-27 01:00:16 PM  
Savage Belief: That's not what he said shiathead.

Suck me, twatsticker.
 
2008-06-27 01:02:12 PM  
ArcadianRefugee: Savage Belief: That's not what he said shiathead.

Suck me, twatsticker.


Wow--feel the love.
 
2008-06-27 01:06:43 PM  
What do shoes hung over a power line mean?
 
2008-06-27 01:07:45 PM  
^^^^
Or you could, you know, LEGALIZE THE farkING DRUGS, so we don't have to kill people over them.

For the love of the FSM, it's really THAT simple.
 
2008-06-27 01:13:51 PM  
phillyguy1547: It's not the baggy pants! It's the people wearing the baggy pants! You lock up every person wearing pants at mid-thigh and I bet your crime rate in the city that night goes to zero.

Is that racist? I hope not - because baggy pants know no color. Plenty of white idiots do it too....


It's not racist, but it's not very well thought out. What about all of the people who don't wear baggy pants - they don't commit crimes? The "educated," college crowd who go drinking and clubbing, or the ones I see at Camden Yards/M&T Bank Stadium who may not be college students at all, just working types who can't go out and have a good time without starting a fight after (or during) the game? How about the older, blue collar types who relax after a hard days work by slapping around their wives and/or kids? Maybe the guys (like a few I knew when I was young) who looked nothing like the stereotypical drug dealer you'd think of, who move pounds and pounds of marijuana and work 9-5 jobs and still point and laugh at kids w/sagging pants? Take a look at the registered pedophile list w/pics one day - lot of those old guys aren't wearing sagging jeans, I'd wager.

Crime has nothing to do with how you dress. It's just a personal fashion statement. Crooks come in all sizes, shapes and colors, from all backgrounds. It's a simple as that.
 
2008-06-27 01:21:22 PM  
Lots43: people who can't keep their pants up in public tend to be taken away.

maybe you're ok with that kind of waste of my hard earned tax money but I am not. Are you a child that has yet to really pay taxes?
 
2008-06-27 01:28:38 PM  
phillyguy1547: It's not the baggy pants! It's the people wearing the baggy pants! You lock up every person wearing pants at mid-thigh and I bet your crime rate in the city that night goes to zero.

Is that racist? I hope not - because baggy pants know no color. Plenty of white idiots do it too....


Plus they're not particularly bright...I mean...how are you suppose to run from the POLice if your pants are threatening to fall down around you ankles!
 
2008-06-27 01:53:09 PM  
All I could read is 'Chief Dicks going after exposed rear ends'.
 
2008-06-27 01:57:19 PM  
Legalize it.

/oh wait..
 
2008-06-27 02:31:25 PM  
ArcadianRefugee
Savage Belief: That's not what he said shiathead.

Suck me, twatsticker.


Why yes, I have "stuck" may twats in my time, thank you for recognizing my manliness. Of course I could be like you, a basement dwelling, sock stuffing, waiting for mom to make me a couple of hot pockets, virgin asshole. But who wants to be that?

/Now go back to fapping to Foobies little man.
//*DING* Ooh, Hot Pockets are done!
 
2008-06-27 02:32:03 PM  
Oops. I OB'd.
 
2008-06-27 02:38:50 PM  
Just another reason for cops to avoid real crimes.

/I can't help you with your stolen car right now, that 13 year-old kid is showing 3 inches of his boxers and demands more of my attention.
 
2008-06-27 02:54:59 PM  
Subby = FAIL.

Original headline was about Flint Police "cracking down" on saggy pants.

FAIL
 
2008-06-27 04:58:58 PM  
Sobrrr 2008-06-27 10:17:53 AM
Unfortunately, this move will only solidify this fashion trend. I used to really enjoy seeing a man's butt hugged in denim, even a nice silhouetted man-bubble... Alas, those days are gone, but not forgotten... One day, maybe, HOPEFULLY, guys will start dressing for the ladies and not for each other...

men don't dress for each other (not single, straight men, anyway), we dress for ourselves.

if women weren't so hung up on clothes, they wouldn't make so many mistakes in choosing relationships.
 
2008-06-27 05:32:20 PM  
I remeber when I was a kid, they used all the same arguments aganist hippies.

/You can tell me how to dress, when I can tell you how to live.
//No, I don't wear baggy pants. I am an over 40 white guy.
 
2008-06-27 08:12:37 PM  
You have a police chief named Dicks, and you don't weave that into the Fark headline? Bad subby!
 
2008-06-27 10:33:36 PM  
Sent this in. Didn't proof read it. Was spur of the moment. Didn't put much thought into it. Give me a break.

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This message is directed at Police Chief David Dicks.

Sir, I just read an article on the internet about your city enforcing a ban on sagging pants. I am disgusted by both sagging pants and your new law. Without trying to make racial stereotypes the main focus here, for lack of a better comparison, believe me when I say that I'm just the "whitest white boy" there is. I can't stand the sight of sagging pants just as much as the next guy. It looks ridiculous, it's counter productive, and it generally displays ignorance...but it is free speech. There's almost never anything indecent about it. If there is, then sure, enforce it, but lets be honest with ourselves here, you really don't see anything more than someone's boxers. As much as I don't want to defend this practice, I have to. This is *thee* United States of America. We are free to do want we want when we want as long as it doesn't cause an inconvenience to or impede on others. When did we become the United States of Cry Babies? United States of Whiners? United States of Stripped Of Our Rights? Seriously. You start with one right taken away and who's to say where is stops? I can think of a thousand other things I'm sure the citizens of Flint would rather put their tax dollars toward. Are you going to stop the ladies from wearing low cut tops? Or seriously short shorts? Those display well more skin then sagging pants. That might be considered indecent to some. Please get down from your high horse, wake up, and realize where you live. And thank God for having the opportunity for living here. Freedom is our most cherished and desired right. It's our founding principle. People with sagging pants are not hurting anyone by sagging their pants. Repeal this law and kiss the ground you walk on and remember where you came from. I may be but one person but I'm tired of our authorities turning on us and I'm letting my voice be heard. Probably the best thing about this nation is that we are all different yet still find a way to live amongst each other. Just because someone practices a different fashion than you doesn't mean you should make a law against it. That's a serious misuse of power and I hope your citizens see that.

Thank You,
Jim
 
2008-06-27 10:41:12 PM  
Yeah, I got a solution, you're a dick!

/Flint Michigan, What's Up!!
 
2008-06-28 02:30:43 AM  
Some further background, in case anyone's still reading this:
Dicks is the acting police chief, his father is the 'super chief', over fire and police. a few weeks ago, on the very day the two were promoted, Dicks son was murdered in what was probably a drug related crime. And Dicks does not exactly have an unblemished record himself.

clintp: Original headline was about Flint Police "cracking down" on saggy pants.

With 'Dicks', 'cracking down', and the fact i stated above, not to mention our insane crime rate, it was too much to include all of it. 'Dicks' was a little to immature, the dead son was too much for a headline, and personally, I steer away from stealing other people's headlines. Perhaps you don't, in which case, I think you=FAIL.

CnFlght: Sagging pants are signs for the pushers/dealers in the drug-deal chain. Subby needs to get out of his mom's basement and realize that fashion reveals one's profession: underground (sagging jeans being druggie) or legitimate (suit and tie being office).

Although sagging jeans provides me with plenty of laughter, by no means does it mean someone is a drug user, let alone a dealer, it could just be some idiot kid who watches too much MTV. Others, it's just what they find comfortable. I've got good friends that have never, and will never touch drugs, but still sport this unfortunate fashion. And a shirt and tie doesn't mean someone works in an office by any means, nor does even actually having an office job mean that someone is NOT a dealer. YOU are the one needing to get out of your mom's basement, and open up your eyes, cause most dealers don't fit the stereotypes you've assigned them.

/subby, in case i need to spell it out for you
//original tag was 'hero', cause i can't stand sagging pants, but i still think they've got much, much more important things to do
///lifetime Flint area resident
 
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