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2002-12-02 03:24:39 PM  
ahhhh - quality, unbiased reporting.

(not)
 
2002-12-02 03:25:43 PM  
They're coming for you Barbara.
 
2002-12-02 03:27:50 PM  
This is going to be a fun one.
 
2002-12-02 03:28:35 PM  
...as in 'not' .

...more like:
 
2002-12-02 03:30:11 PM  
Just shot 'em in the head-seemed to work well in the moveis when people were confronted with zombies.
 
2002-12-02 03:31:15 PM  
Just shot 'em in the head-seemed to work well in the movies when people were confronted with zombies.
 
2002-12-02 03:35:10 PM  
I'll take the experience of the people mentioned in the article any day over the pollsters Clinton/Gore used.
 
2002-12-02 03:35:30 PM  
yay! another political thread! haven't had enough of those lately. i just saw bush's speech. i just laughed at him.

on a totally unrelated note, i just saw an ad for a portable, electronic hemmer (not hummer) thingie, and it showed a scene where the woman was hemming an American flag. Now, isn't it proper flag etiquette to burn any flag that's torn and buy a new one? That's all.
 
2002-12-02 03:39:53 PM  
Face it, republicans are the worst form of scum. They are destroying our nation.

A second civil war may be necessary to purge our great country of this evil.
 
2002-12-02 03:42:36 PM  
I vaguely sort of agree with what he's saying, but this made me almost ill:

John regards it as a badge of honor to have left the United States as a poor young man from the South Side of Chicago when the country embarked on the pointless murder of something like three million Vietnamese in their own land because they happened to embrace the wrong economic loyalties. He lives in Canada, which he is fond of calling "the peaceable kingdom."

I read this as: "Rather than take a moral or ideological stance against a war he felt was wrong, John is proud of the fact that he instead chose to flee the country like a scared little girl. He now carps about the shortcomings of the his native government from the relative safety of Canada, where he can live without actually having to DO anything about the system he feels is so screwed up."

He lost all credibility with me when I read that paragraph above. What an utter asshat.
 
2002-12-02 03:45:32 PM  
Isn't reading the Yellow Times one of Saddam Hussein's Nine Favorite Tortures?
 
2002-12-02 03:49:44 PM  
 
2002-12-02 03:54:31 PM  
Being poor he either had to go and die or to flee. He did not have the money(like those currently in power) to stay in this country and be whisked off into the Texas Air National Guard.
 
2002-12-02 03:58:55 PM  
"A second civil war may be necessary to purge our great country of this evil."

Yes.. because the first one was so wonderful.
 
2002-12-02 04:00:06 PM  
Braaains...
 
2002-12-02 04:09:12 PM  
For once I agree with Ironbar:

Main Entry: fas·cism
Pronunciation: 'fa-"shi-z&m also 'fa-"si-
Function: noun
Etymology: Italian fascismo, from fascio bundle, fasces, group, from Latin fascis bundle & fasces fasces
Date: 1921
1 often capitalized : a political philosophy, movement, or regime that stands for a centralized autocratic government headed by a dictatorial leader, severe economic and social regimentation, and forcible suppression of opposition

It's just what we avoided in the US by not electing ultra-lefty farkoids like the nutbars that spew from YellowTimes. Just ask Tom Daschle about forcible suppression of opposition...
 
2002-12-02 04:16:08 PM  
Yeah Gator (and please forgive me if I've taken you out of context), damn those Republicans for reacting to a threat in order to keep the American populace safe.

I hardly think Republicans are the problem/cause for a "second civil war" here.

Ummm.... let's see... I don't remember Republicans flying air-liners into sky-scrapers, straping explosives to themselves and walking into a mall/resort or other similar highly populated area and pressing the detonator, or taking close to 1,000 civilians hostage in a theater.

DBCooper...

You're close with the YellowTimes/Saddam Hussien Torture Method parallel there. Personally, I think listening to the liberal left piss, whine, & moan about the temporary infringement (until we finish Al Qaeda) of liberties & freedoms that they had previously taken for granted is a far greater ass-whipping.

Please note the use of the word "temporary", as I feel a great many things will go back to normal once we get through this.

Schief2...

Made me ill as well & I'm glad he's out of the country. If only Alec Baldwin would join him.

Yellow draft-dodger writing for YellowTimes=appropriate
 
2002-12-02 04:22:55 PM  
Republicans are too busy appeasing their Saudi Arabian masters to keep us safe. The primary concern of the republicans is not avoiding further terrorist attacks, but deflecting criticism of the Saudi royal family.

They have been bought and paid for.
 
2002-12-02 04:23:38 PM  
CAP811: Who has Tom Daschle ever forcibly suppressed? Someone tried to forcibly suppress -him- by mailing him anthrax. Meanwhile, the party which is in favor of removing the "fair trial before a jury of your peers" from the Constitution is on the other side of the aisle, and in the White House. Where's Joe? Oh, he was an evil terrorist. He's in Gitmo now. Don't ask any more questions unless you want to join him.
 
2002-12-02 04:26:10 PM  
One by one, in the dead of night, they push ghastly, rotting fingers through dank earth in an effort to grasp something solid and pull themselves up from moldering graves, figures of long-dead flesh, blank-eyed, capable of no feeling save an unnatural hunger that animates and drives them shakily forward. They are the gruesome remains of an earlier time, mysteriously returned to life, once more to exercise their malevolent influence on the planet.


At this point I was thinking, "Great description of Lautenberg and Mondale being resurrected and sent out to roam the political earth." Imagine my surprise to find out that they're talking about members of the Bush administration. Fooled me again. Ah, Yellowtimes, you rascals you.
 
2002-12-02 04:30:48 PM  
Yeah, good catch on the Mondale and Lautenberg ones. That was gonna be my post. The Republicans bringing back political zombies from ancient times? Oh, my! The Democrats would never do that!!!
 
2002-12-02 04:38:21 PM  
Yellowtimes may not be the *least* biased source, but this is widely reported. Is there anybody out there who doesn't get the creeps that the 2 latest administration "experts" are Poindexter and Kissinger? Does the administration really not care about its domestic image any more now that it has control of all branches?
 
2002-12-02 04:40:10 PM  
Mr. Burns says farewell to a distinguished guest.

Burns: Thank you so much for visiting our plant, Dr. Kissinger.
Henry: It was fun.
Smithers: We'll let you know if your glasses turn up.
Henry: Er, yes, well, I'm sure I left them in the car. [sotto voce] No one must know I dropped them in the toilet; no I, the man who drafted the Paris Peace Accord.
 
2002-12-02 04:50:58 PM  
H8red - puh-leeze!
Attacking the 'left' or 'right' is utterly useless as most of us know. Those lines are fuzzy and grey as a schnauzer. I never expect to hear an accurate definition of either side. As far as building-destroying, suicide-bombing, or FOP hostaging terrorists, sure, none of them were republicans, but were any of them democrats? I could make the same illogical assumption about cats, or horses, since, niether of those animals flew an airliner into a building, right? Besides, just because republicans didn't deliberately kill a bunch of people does not do anything to justify the fact that they (and by they, I mean the current administration) are taking away our RIGHTS as FREE citizens of the DEMOCRACY in which we grew up.
As far as a 'temporary infringement' on civil rights goes, do you even realize what you're saying? As an American citizen, you are garunteed a SET of civil liberties and should live without fear that you have said rights till the day you die or defect. There should never be any sort of infringement upon those liberties. That is what FREEDOM IS. Do you think that when you're voted MORE power by the people, or the body of government that was installed to prevent you from abusing the power you were voted, that you're capable or willing to give that power up? Do you really think that the administration is going to "give back" the rights they've stolen and continue to steal from innocent civilians? Anyone who can applaud, or even accept the actions of the current administration is either completely ignorant to the effects of their actions, or is so caught up in the PHONY MADE UP GIMMICK of a war on terrorism that they'll never actually recognize what the president and co. are doing behind the scenes. All of you who think that what we're doing to our newfound empire is good....Turn a fvcking light on, it's gotta be pretty fvcking dark in there.
 
2002-12-02 04:57:28 PM  
 
2002-12-02 04:57:38 PM  
H8red: You're close with the YellowTimes/Saddam Hussien Torture Method parallel there. Personally, I think listening to the liberal left piss, whine, & moan about the temporary infringement (until we finish Al Qaeda) of liberties & freedoms that they had previously taken for granted is a far greater ass-whipping.

I don't know how long you're planning on living, H8red, but with your typical, two-party politician in office, you shouldn't count on the infringement being in any way temporary. You see, as long as anyone really thinks that Al Quaeda and its sympathizers can be "finished" by waging the "War on Terrorism" in its current form, then there will be no restoration of the freedoms that were summarily flushed down the crapper in the aftermath of 9/11. Those that know more of the world than, say, Shrubya, know that close to a third the world's population could potentially align themselves (politically if not militarily) with Osama and his marauding band of thugs. With our current set of tactics in this "war to rid the planet of evil," the planet will have to either be rendered un-liveable or we'll have to find a more quiet way of slaughtering 2 billion people for resisting our imperial urges. Anyway, at the rate we're headed, you won't be getting your freedoms back in your lifetime.

I don't think I jive very well with the political bias of the Yellow Times. While I'm quite sure they would admit to being left-leaning, I consider myself a classical conservative (low taxes, heaps of civil liberties...if the government could just leave me alone, that would be great). Still, I think the article was a valid critique of the legacy left by Henry Kissinger to date. Can anyone think of another figure in American history who has screwed things up so royally while going almost completely un-criticized?

-b
 
2002-12-02 04:58:20 PM  
H8red

Personally, I think listening to the liberal left piss, whine, & moan about the temporary infringement (until we finish Al Qaeda) of liberties & freedoms that they had previously taken for granted is a far greater ass-whipping.

Did Congress consult with you prior to enacting this legislation? You must know something the rest of us don't, because I don't think anyone believes these infringements are "temporary".
 
2002-12-02 05:14:39 PM  
Okay, I hear ya Gator, & somewhat see your point. They have indeed been deflecting totally warranted criticism of the Saudi Royal family, but you've got to remember what kind of position the House of Saud is in right now. They've created a monster in wahabism (if that's how you spell it), bin Laden, & his followers that threatens to overthrow them without US military protection. In return, we basically get oil at "fair market value". Face it, if it weren't for the US military, they'd have been ousted long ago (which might not be such a bad thing). I would venture to guess that the majority of Saudi citizens feel the same way about their Royal Family as you do about the Republican party.

Just to play "devil's advocate" here for a minute, did you also find it odd that Democrats (and many law-makers aligned with the political left) were recently too busy appeasing their master (special interest groups) by pork-barreling the Homeland Security legislation, thereby bogging the bill down in the Senate as opposed to doing the right thing and getting the bill passed to protect Americans? I think Americans picked up on it. Look at the election results. Also, see how the bill has been passed & it's now more difficult for Al Qaeda to pull any more of their shenannigans on US soil.

Funny how that show fits both feet eh?

Wait a minute! Did we just have a level-headed exchange of ideas here on Fark?
 
2002-12-02 05:18:07 PM  
Who the hell is Kissinger?
 
2002-12-02 05:20:51 PM  
Oh good-they're only going to infringe on our supposedly garaunteed rights until we defeat Al Qaeda...no, no, really...they promise. Pull your head out of the sand. Regaining lost freedoms is far more difficult than losing them, and no government left, right, or center is going to give them back voluntarily. Again: this "infringment" is far from temporary and is a fine example of Nixonian government...which should amaze no one considering all of the old timers that keep popping up.
 
2002-12-02 05:26:07 PM  
Don't forget, Culebra, we've still got to win the drug war.

After all, Bush decided drugs are way worse than Taliban. That's why he gave Taliban money to fight drugs.

So after we win the drug war, then you can have your rights back.
 
2002-12-02 05:33:47 PM  
H8red:

Wasn't income tax also supposed to be a temporary war measure?
 
2002-12-02 05:37:39 PM  
H8red: "Just to play "devil's advocate" here for a minute, did you also find it odd that Democrats (and many law-makers aligned with the political left) were recently too busy appeasing their master (special interest groups) by pork-barreling the Homeland Security legislation, thereby bogging the bill down in the Senate as opposed to doing the right thing and getting the bill passed to protect Americans? I think Americans picked up on it. Look at the election results. Also, see how the bill has been passed & it's now more difficult for Al Qaeda to pull any more of their shenannigans on US soil."

Just to get terms square here. The Dems and Reps were fighting over the design of the Homeland (*ugh*) Security legislation and were both in thrall to their respective special interests. Republicans were the ones who threw the pork into the bill at the last minute before Congress voted on it.
 
2002-12-02 05:38:13 PM  
Very true. Of course we all know that the WOD has already been won in a blowout. Drugs win big. I like being a winner.
 
2002-12-02 05:40:47 PM  
Or at least smoking a winner.
 
2002-12-02 05:43:35 PM  
Tekbot...

"I never expect to hear an accurate definition of either side. As far as building-destroying, suicide-bombing, or FOP hostaging terrorists, sure, none of them were republicans, but were any of them democrats?"

You missed my point. I wasn't attacking the 'left' or the 'right' nor was I trying to infer that they were Democrats, just that there are bigger fish to fry than the Republican party, namely terrorists.

SpiralTech & Doc...

I do feel like it's temporary. Once this has passed, and it will pass (remember the only sure things are death and taxes), a lot of things will go back to normal. If they don't, we're likely to see another house-cleaning like what we saw last month, where we had a legislative body whose majority was more concerned with pimping their special interests as opposed to passing legislation that will help keep a great deal of us safe during this trying time.

Regardless, the people still have the power to put their candidate of preference in office to get the job done (whatever that job may be). That is, unless we've lost our right to vote recently and if that happens, Gator will surely get to see the second civil war that he wrote about earlier. Maybe I'm just not as pessimistic as y'all.

And DrBreRuthlessVillain, I'm right there with you on the "classic conservative" stance.
In other news, I just heard that TEXAS A&M has just fired RC Slocum. How 'bout that shiat? Not really that big a surprise seeing as how the Horns schooled 'em on Friday.
 
2002-12-02 05:44:16 PM  
Oh come on, the infringitations are only temporaneous.
 
2002-12-02 05:46:54 PM  
I-yam: The Dems and Reps were fighting over the design of the Homeland (*ugh*) Security legislation and were both in thrall to their respective special interests.

I for one feel a lot safer now that there are an additional 170,000 government employees now tasked with spying on my friends and me so that we can all be safer. Furthermore, I'm cheered that I'll eventually get to foot the bill and that I can always go to jail if I decide I don't want to pay. Really, it's a win-win situation.
 
2002-12-02 05:47:20 PM  
Come on, look on the back of America's techspec. See the quote? Yeah, "Peace through Tyranny" people
 
2002-12-02 05:48:08 PM  
Just for the record, H8red, it was the Republicans (specifically the Reagan White House) who illegally used CIA propaganda specialists to influence the American people in the 80s (as found by the House Foreign Relations Committee, Congress' General Accounting Office, and others). They were also the ones in office when we were found guilty by the World Court of violating the sovereignty of Nicaragua. Then Bush Sr. wages a 'war' against Iraq to reinstate a corrupt regime in Kuwait and slaughters 100,000 Iraqis in the process (compared to 148 U.S. casualties) and celebrates beating the 'Vietnam Syndrome' on the day the war ends. Both parties are corrupt, of course, so get your head out of your ass, look at what 'your' party is responsible for, and instead try to get back what 'your' party has now taken away from us, some of the few things that really matter in our everyday lives, the rights we've lost.
 
2002-12-02 06:10:33 PM  
"Anyone who can applaud, or even accept the actions of the current administration is either completely ignorant to the effects of their actions, or is so caught up in the PHONY MADE UP GIMMICK of a war on terrorism that they'll never actually recognize what the president and co. are doing behind the scenes."

Well said, if a bit harsh :)

"The greatest dangers to liberty lurk in insidious encroachment by men of zeal, well-meaning but without understanding." - Justice Louis D. Brandeis
 
2002-12-02 06:25:58 PM  
I am so excited that Fark is running YellowTimes.org articles again. The last two were great, but this one takes the cake! I mean, this was absolutely hilarious!
 
2002-12-02 06:26:28 PM  
Because there wasn't enough partisan bickering on yesterday's YellowTimes thread...
 
2002-12-02 06:26:57 PM  
Anonymous3637...

Just for the record, I'm not a Republican or a Democrat & like you, I feel that neither party has it all figured out. Unlike you, I do feel that Republicans as well as Democrats do some good by the masses.

How is the regime of Iraq any better than the Kuwati regime? The last time I checked, the Kuwati army didn't invade a neighboring country. As for the 100,000 Iraqis that were "slaughtered"; I think you've made a really poor choice of words. "Slaughter" has the connotation of killing someone who is defenseless. I do believe the Iraqi army was armed in that conflict (that's why they're called an Army ya' dipshiat) and they had the opportunity to surrender to US troops. I'm also aware that in an armed conflict or a war, if you choose not to surrender, you're likely to get your ass shot, especially if you're one of Saddam's "elite" Republican Guard who hides in a bunker as the A1's go by, only to come up to fire at them from behind. But alas, Saddams "elite" forces were blissfully unaware of the fact that Pattons were coming up right behind the A1's to keep that shiat from happening. Sure is a lot of sympathy for a sociopathic dictator coming from you there chief. I've got no sympathy for the Iraqi army. They wanted to play ball with the big boys & got their asses handed to them. 100,000 to 148 is a pretty damned effective showing if you ask me.

While we're at it, please enlighten me as to how CIA propaganda specialists were illegally used to influence the American people in the 80's, and show me some proof of whatever the hell it is that you're talking about. I'm really interested to see what you cite. When you're done with that Einstein, why don't you remove your ass-cheeks from your shoulders and tell me exactly what it is that you're unable to do since 9/11. Really, tell me how your civil liberties have been infringed upon.
 
2002-12-02 06:27:17 PM  
"...I am inclined to agree with Mark Miller who has observed that Bush's speech and gestures are better explained by a personality disorder than a lack of intelligence"
Nice article.
 
2002-12-02 06:31:18 PM  
H8red:

You need a history lesson. The United States doesn't care when countries invade each other, unless that invading country somehow threatens U.S. interests. How come the U.S. supported Iraq's invasion of Iran?

The only reason Hussein invaded Kuwait was because he thought that it was in U.S. interests for him to do so. The conflict with Kuwait was very old, and Hussein, even admittedly, had stated that he had no idea the U.S. would intervene.

So, please, hold the moral arguments. The U.S. can never claim some kind of "moral" credibility. Years of supported coups, atomic weapon releases, giving chemical weapons to rogue leaders, etc. destroyed that notion.
 
2002-12-02 06:32:05 PM  
Great point Jewing.
 
2002-12-02 06:37:59 PM  
Remember when he choked on the pretzel?
 
2002-12-02 06:45:56 PM  
The idiots who voted for Bush would not understand a word!
Bush is a sick man and getting sicker every day!

God help America and it's young
 
2002-12-02 06:47:16 PM  
I love to hear the liberal media whine! More article like this one!!

After listening to the whine, my favorite thing to do is substitue 'Bill Clinton' for the name of whoever it is they are attacking. It works nicely!
 
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