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(Deadspin)   In a column that's surely her well-reasoned opinion and not an attempt to get cheap publicity by being "contrarian", a columnist for the SF Gate rips Tiger for being an "idiot" for playing in the US Open injured   (deadspin.com) divider line 29
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2008-06-19 11:51:20 PM
I hate to say it, but I kind of agree. What Tiger did was amazing and spectacular, but also inspiring, which is the problem. There's gonna be idiot kids out there, along with their idiot parents turning down or delaying needed surgery because 'Tiger was fine', especially if they are headed into a championship game. The results could be devastating to the kids future.
 
2008-06-20 12:38:18 AM
That is the stupidest thing I've read tonight.
 
2008-06-20 12:59:04 AM
Mercutio879: I hate to say it, but I kind of agree. What Tiger did was amazing and spectacular, but also inspiring, which is the problem. There's gonna be idiot kids out there, along with their idiot parents turning down or delaying needed surgery because 'Tiger was fine', especially if they are headed into a championship game. The results could be devastating to the kids future.

Sapient: That is the stupidest thing I've read tonight.

This is why I love Fark.
BTW I agree that it was a stupid move.
 
2008-06-20 01:18:50 AM
Mercutio879: There's gonna be idiot kids out there, along with their idiot parents turning down or delaying needed surgery because 'Tiger was fine', especially if they are headed into a championship game.

Aw, they'd have found an excuse either way to have their kids play through pain, if their priorities really are that out of whack.
 
2008-06-20 02:52:31 AM
Mercutio879: There's gonna be idiot kids out there, along with their idiot parents turning down or delaying needed surgery because 'Tiger was fine', especially if they are headed into a championship game.

stupid tiger. what a bad role model.
 
2008-06-20 02:57:54 AM
Wow, what a big farking surprise that someone would write a big, controversial, scathing article that calls out the best golfer in the world. Does no one realize that the best way for an obscure, know-nothing writer to be thrust into the limelight is to write an article that goes against everything that conventional thinking supports?

Wake the fark up, Tiger just had his "flu-game", which only adds to the mystique of his legend, like it did some other guy... Let history judge this performance, and stop greenlighting every dipshiat article that criticizes his decision just because the writer wants to be in the limelight by going against the grain. The guy wanted to win the US Open on a fractured leg and a bum knee, which he did. It cost him the rest of one season- boo farking hoo that it deprived him of the rest of the year. We'll always remember his performance in this tourney, and no obscure writer can minimize it.
 
2008-06-20 03:04:20 AM
Nothing controversial here. It's not very smart to jeopardize your entire career over one tournament. You can't seriously compare a torn ACL and a stress fracture to the flu.
 
2008-06-20 03:06:59 AM
Bertsura: It's not very smart to jeopardize your entire career over one tournament.

i honestly think thats what separates tiger from everyone else. if he has a chance at all to compete, he will. and he will win.
 
2008-06-20 03:10:26 AM
shaddup, biatch.
 
2008-06-20 03:14:08 AM
DerekSD: shaddup, biatch.

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2008-06-20 03:14:57 AM
also... i would like to say this...
why is tiger an "idiot?" he doesnt owe anything to anyone. its not like a basketball player who owes his team to playing the next few games. he plays for himself. no one is paying him to play the next tournament except for his sponsors. and his not playing the next 8 months certainly isnt going to kill his stock. he doesnt have an owner paying him a certain dollar amount a year. he plays when he wants to play, and when he plays well, he makes money. tiger did what he wanted to do, and thats that. its an individual sport.
 
2008-06-20 04:12:10 AM
I think the Deadspin doucebag's over-reaction to what the columnist wrote is stupid and self-serving.
 
2008-06-20 04:12:35 AM
Tiger's an idiot in this instance (which has nothing to do with whether his decision affected anyone else or not), as is the author of the link (who, if you didn't RTFA, is not the writer of the article criticizing Woods, but a blogger criticizing the writer criticizing Woods).
A golf swing is powered by the hips shifting forward, moving weight from one knee to the next and putting considerable lateral pressure on the knees. It's a very dangerous thing to do with any sort of knee or leg injury, and a stupid thing to try.

Tiger showed up for work with an injury that prevented him from safely doing his job. Unless he made the choice with a clear head that he'd be alright never playing competitively again, it was stupid to play in the Open.

Now, maybe he did. Maybe he said to himself "I've had a great run, so I'm going to give this one last tournament a try and happily fade into retirement and movie cameos if that's what my leg forces me to do after it". In that case, that's his choice and with the money he's made it's not at all a stupid choice. If he made the decision with anything less that the full willingness never to compete again, it was a stupid choice.

Yeh, he played through the pain and won. Whoopty-farking-do. There are people who get up every working day of their lives and go to a job they hate because it's what they have to do to provide food, clothing, shelter, and health care for their children. They show more courage and character every single day than a star athlete does by "playing through the pain" and they make less in a year (or 5 or 10) than that star athlete does playing through the pain that one time. So, yeh, I have no problem calling an athlete and idiot when he farks himself up. Tiger's worse than most, because he's not even willingly sacrificing himself for his team.
 
2008-06-20 08:17:10 AM
may he catch a hockey puck in the other knee.
 
2008-06-20 08:20:48 AM
Of all the "role model" athletes out there, Tiger doesn't even come in the top 100.

OJ Simpson
Pacman Jones
Michael Irvin
Most of the NBA

Tiger's accomplishment was inspiring. Maybe parents should start taking responsibility for themselves and their children and not follow in the footsteps of other athletes.
 
2008-06-20 08:23:09 AM
bingethinker: I think the Deadspin doucebag's over-reaction to what the columnist wrote is stupid and self-serving.

Awwwww, someone can't get a comment invite. Here's the extent of his "overreaction":

San Franciso Gate columnist Gwen Knapp appears to have gone a little overboard with her contrarianism.

Honestly, take it easy, lady.


If that sort of writing upsets you try not to let any of your tears fall on your skirt, Nancy.
 
2008-06-20 08:42:27 AM
If gutting it out on one bad leg to win the US Open is wrong, I don't want to be right. Dude it's Tiger Freaking Woods. He'll be back next year dominating.
 
2008-06-20 09:05:28 AM
I am not a Red Sox fan, but I will post this:
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Sometimes winning is that important to a person - I can't fault Tiger, if I was him (which would be a pretty good deal) I would probably have done that too.
 
2008-06-20 09:24:10 AM
This along with the article by Jemela Hill (spelling?) leads me to believe that there are very few intelligent female sports writers in this world. Sure there are some male trolls that make idiotic essays from time to time, however, just about every female sports writer writes like this all the time.
 
2008-06-20 10:28:19 AM
Christ, people, it's an ACL, not an aorta.

The surgically repaired ACLs are as good, if not better, than the originals. That hasn't always been the case, even as recently as 10 years ago. But it is now. His risk of exacerbating the injury or shortening his career was basically ZERO. And after rehab, that knee will most likely be stronger than it ever has been.

It's not like he'll be having the surgery at some county hospital with a first-year ortho resident.

From all the coverage and commentators' comments, one would think Tiger is about to have a heart transplant.
 
2008-06-20 10:41:24 AM
Comment invites? The user comments are the stupidest part of their site, they're never worth reading. They make such a big deal about who gets to do it but I never saw what standard they were trying to uphold.
 
2008-06-20 10:44:10 AM
abillmann: Christ, people, it's an ACL, not an aorta.

The surgically repaired ACLs are as good, if not better, than the originals. That hasn't always been the case, even as recently as 10 years ago. But it is now. His risk of exacerbating the injury or shortening his career was basically ZERO. And after rehab, that knee will most likely be stronger than it ever has been.

It's not like he'll be having the surgery at some county hospital with a first-year ortho resident.

From all the coverage and commentators' comments, one would think Tiger is about to have a heart transplant.


Seriously, it's getting annoying hearing every sports commentator's opinion on this, as if they are looking at Tiger's MRIs playing amateur orthapedist. Tiger is not beholden to anyone but himself. He will have the surgery by the best doctors in the world and will come back and break Nicklaus's record. I mean, he beat everyone playing through pain and a ruptured ACL; what will keep him from beating everyone with no pain and a repaired knee? Everyone calling him an idiot just wants to find fault with the guy's decisions because now they won't be able to care or write about golf for a year, oh and because their jealous.
 
2008-06-20 10:45:38 AM
they're jealous. FTFM
 
2008-06-20 11:22:58 AM
I think everyone one forgets the one important piece of fact that Tiger's doctors told him prior to the Open...

He had asked if he played in the Open, could the damage get any worse. His doctors told him that the damage could not get any worse, only the pain could. So if he could manage the pain he couldn't damage the knee any more than it already was.

So Tiger manned up, popped some Celebrex and brought his best "one-legged A game" that he could.
 
2008-06-20 02:49:39 PM
NU41: He had asked if he played in the Open, could the damage get any worse. His doctors told him that the damage could not get any worse, only the pain could. So if he could manage the pain he couldn't damage the knee any more than it already was.

I had seen this as well.

If Tiger's doctors told him that he could permanently damage his knee beyond repair by playing... he wouldn't have played. If Tiger had been an NFL running back... he wouldn't have played.
Maybe he made the right decision, maybe he didn't. All indications are that nothing other than a freak accident would have made his knee worse than it was. He went out there through the pain... that's not being an idiot.

The writer of the whine fest, and the people who know nothing other than "Tiger's knee hurts" are the idiots.
 
2008-06-20 02:50:51 PM
But I do enjoy Fark's resident "I know what everyone in the world is thinking, even though they have already stated otherwise" approach. Take some courses at the local community college, and you, too, could be writing crap articles in the Chronicle.
 
2008-06-20 03:24:33 PM
Whatever...all Tiger accomplished was proving he is even more better than anyone in golf than we even knew already. It will be great when his first tournament back is winning the Open again...only by 8-9 strokes next time.

BTW, even if his career was over due to this...he would be all right. The fact is though...it won't be so STFU and go back to writing about shiat no one is going to read anyway. If you were a real journalist, you could do it with carpal tunnel too.
 
2008-06-20 03:25:29 PM
Oh yeah, and anyone winning a major in the next three or four should have a * next to the result.
 
2008-06-20 11:14:42 PM
Bertsura: Nothing controversial here. It's not very smart to jeopardize your entire career over one tournament. You can't seriously compare a torn ACL and a stress fracture to the flu.

Unless you have a temp. of 106, like my teammate did.
 
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