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(Metro)   New pi-shaped crop circle in English countryside "baffles" mathematicians, so is obviously the work of extra-terrestrials. Or someone who really, really likes pi. Mmmm, pi   (metro.co.uk) divider line 521
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2008-06-18 07:49:03 AM
Math geeks with time on their hands and a sense of humor.
 
2008-06-18 08:04:25 AM
This may cause more controversy in the debate whether crop circles are a result of extraterrestrial activity.

What controversy? There is no credible evidence that these crop circles are anything more than elaborate hoaxes at best.
 
2008-06-18 08:16:55 AM
I thought it was going to be Π, which would have been cute and made me laugh. That is a whole different thing.
 
2008-06-18 08:19:50 AM
"It shows a coded image representing the first ten digits of Pi - the ratio of the circumference of a circle to the diameter...

This may cause more controversy in the debate whether crop circles are a result of extraterrestrial activity.


SnarfVader

What controversy? There is no credible evidence that these crop circles are anything more than elaborate hoaxes at best.

Why are they ignoring natural causes? Maybe it was wind and/or animal damage.
 
2008-06-18 08:35:09 AM
If mathematicians are baffled, who figured out it was pi?
 
2008-06-18 08:45:26 AM
Bevets: "It shows a coded image representing the first ten digits of Pi - the ratio of the circumference of a circle to the diameter...

This may cause more controversy in the debate whether crop circles are a result of extraterrestrial activity.

SnarfVader

What controversy? There is no credible evidence that these crop circles are anything more than elaborate hoaxes at best.

Why are they ignoring natural causes? Maybe it was wind and/or animal damage.


Though I can clearly see how crop circles, stonehenge and evolution are all related, wait, no, that makes no sense...
 
2008-06-18 08:57:39 AM
SnarfVader: This may cause more controversy in the debate whether crop circles are a result of extraterrestrial activity.

What controversy? There is no credible evidence that these crop circles are anything more than elaborate hoaxes at best.


It's even worse than that, because the people responsible for the original crop circles came forward and actually demonstrated how they did it. There's no credible evidence that the people involved in this "debate" are intelligent.
 
2008-06-18 09:17:48 AM
lexnaturalis: It's even worse than that, because the people responsible for the original crop circles came forward and actually demonstrated how they did it. There's no credible evidence that the people involved in this "debate" are intelligent.

I am waiting for the crop circle that contains the coded message that crop circles are fake.

/although that would probably only convince the true believers that that one was fake, all others are still real
 
2008-06-18 09:24:52 AM
Kate Bush wanted for questioning.
 
2008-06-18 09:37:00 AM
SnarfVader: There is no credible evidence that these crop circles are anything more than elaborate hoaxes at best.

Yes, elaborate hoaxes carried off by a secret society of practical jokers, who no one has ever heard of, who never take credit for their elaborate jokes and never get caught.
 
2008-06-18 09:38:37 AM
This may cause more controversy in the debate whether crop circles are a result of extraterrestrial activity.


www.forumammo.com

/Maybe the crew of the USS Enterprise NCC-1701-D went back in time to leave a message to us.
//Makes as much sense as that bit of claptrap in the article.
 
2008-06-18 09:41:29 AM
real shaman: Yes, elaborate hoaxes carried off by a secret society of practical jokers, who no one has ever heard of, who never take credit for their elaborate jokes and never get caught.

Who said anything about a secret society? That's like saying everybody who covers their coworker's desks in tinfoil is a part of a secret society.
 
2008-06-18 09:45:10 AM
3.1415926535897
 
2008-06-18 09:50:58 AM
real shaman: ho never take credit for their elaborate jokes and never get caught.

ORLY?
 
2008-06-18 10:06:43 AM
img262.imageshack.us
 
2008-06-18 10:06:59 AM
As an alien, I'm really getting a kick out of these comments!
 
2008-06-18 10:07:10 AM
How did they get pi from that pattern? Any mathematicians / cryptographers willing to chime in here?
 
2008-06-18 10:07:26 AM
How the hell do you get pi out of that?
 
2008-06-18 10:08:00 AM
Everybody likes Pi!

;)
 
2008-06-18 10:08:45 AM
Wow, space aliens express numbers in base 10 -- just like us!
 
2008-06-18 10:09:12 AM
SnarfVader: This may cause more controversy in the debate whether crop circles are a result of extraterrestrial activity.

What controversy? There is no credible evidence that these crop circles are anything more than elaborate hoaxes at best.


There's no credible evidence that Raptor Jesus existed, but people still believe in him.

Oh snap.
/won
 
2008-06-18 10:09:54 AM
www.boston.com
 
2008-06-18 10:10:22 AM
Ruining an already dwindling supply of Barley in the name of nerdom.

Pricks.
 
2008-06-18 10:10:31 AM
JohDHJ: How did they get pi from that pattern? Any mathematicians / cryptographers willing to chime in here?

The length of each segment is the appropriate digit. It's a fraction of the circle. So the longer the arc, the higher the digit. Notice that the digit for 5 is exactly 1/2 the circle.
 
2008-06-18 10:11:01 AM
Danimal79: How the hell do you get pi out of that?

the number of and distance of the notches around the spiral relative to each other would be my guess.

im impressed how mathematicians know exactly what it is and are confused by it at the same time.

good work to the geeks who pulled this one off.
 
2008-06-18 10:11:14 AM
It's even worse than that, because the people responsible for the original crop circles came forward and actually demonstrated how they did it. There's no credible evidence that the people involved in this "debate" are intelligent.

Yep. They use simple ropes and planks, but it's really cool how they create the larger designs, which involve complex mathematics.
 
2008-06-18 10:11:16 AM
1) There is no extraterrestrial controversy. The guys who did a whole bunch of them a few years ago fessed up already and showed how they did it.

2) The article sort of explains how that is supposed to represent pi, but I don't get it. If anyone can show some sort of diagram that explains how that code works, that would be great. Then I might feel less stupid. Or not.
 
2008-06-18 10:11:42 AM
how did they get pi?

Starting from the center, each arc is a fraction of a circle that corresponds to a digit. Half a circle is a 5, a third of a circle is a 3, a tenth is a 1, etc.
 
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2008-06-18 10:12:03 AM
I keep my dog chained to a tree. She has subsequently formed a crap circle. No, I don't have any pics.

© yet
 
2008-06-18 10:12:20 AM
wow, the extraterrestrials count in base 10 as well! What a coincidence!
 
2008-06-18 10:12:28 AM
math prof: pi r squared.
student: no, pies are round.

/back to work
 
2008-06-18 10:13:01 AM
Bah! Nothing but Earthling lies!
 
2008-06-18 10:13:44 AM
lexnaturalis: real shaman: ho never take credit for their elaborate jokes and never get caught.

ORLY?


I appreciate that believers in, and proselytisers of, imaginary constructs have to tell lies to prop up their beliefs, but expecting the rest of us to uncritically accept those lies is rather sad.
 
2008-06-18 10:14:22 AM
tfa: The geometric pattern shows a perfectly coded image which represents the complex first ten digits of pi

So... It's a circle.
 
2008-06-18 10:15:07 AM
Bevets: What controversy? There is no credible evidence that these crop circles are anything more than elaborate hoaxes at best.

Why are they ignoring natural causes? Maybe it was wind and/or animal damage.


I refuse to acknowledge your hyperlinks, and substitute them with my own. (new window)
 
2008-06-18 10:15:09 AM
jenniferwillow [TotalFark] 2008-06-18 09:41:29 AM
real shaman: Yes, elaborate hoaxes carried off by a secret society of practical jokers, who no one has ever heard of, who never take credit for their elaborate jokes and never get caught.

Who said anything about a secret society? That's like saying everybody who covers their coworker's desks in tinfoil is a part of a secret society.


Or steals pens for that matter.

baka-san
Math geeks with time on their hands and a sense of humor.


I'd figured engineering geeks. The biggest mystery to me is what's particularly baffling about it to mathematicians.
 
2008-06-18 10:15:17 AM
When I make a spaceship and send it to other planets simply to play pranks on the locals, I'm going to ensure that my landing gear is shaped according to a mathematical expression.

It's the only way to be sure.
 
2008-06-18 10:15:19 AM
Beer + science + university students = crop circles.

Plain and simple.
 
2008-06-18 10:15:20 AM
overlord_mike-3.1415926535897

This

/got nothin'
 
2008-06-18 10:15:23 AM
nytmare: Wow, space aliens express numbers in base 10 -- just like us!


Not only that, the also use dots to represent decimals and ellipses to indicate continuation!
 
2008-06-18 10:15:52 AM
Doesn't it seem strange that aliens would have a numeration system based on our own, like nytmare wrote, based on "10"?

This is really intelligent people being clever with one another, whilst sitting back and laughing at the idiots who consider extraterrestrial beings responsible for the patterns.

// putting my tinfoil hat back on...just in case.
 
2008-06-18 10:16:42 AM
I wonder how many people it would take to create something like this with such precision overnight? Impressive regardless...

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2008-06-18 10:17:28 AM
pi-R-squared?

pi R not squared. pi R round.
 
2008-06-18 10:17:40 AM
Crop circles are the work of Xenu.
 
2008-06-18 10:18:20 AM
How sweet of aliens to use our base 10 number system.
 
2008-06-18 10:18:26 AM
SiYkO: wow, the extraterrestrials count in base 10 as well! What a coincidence!

Exactly my thought. Why not do it in duodecimal or something, that would really be clever.
 
2008-06-18 10:18:27 AM
Bevets: "It shows a coded image representing the first ten digits of Pi - the ratio of the circumference of a circle to the diameter...

This may cause more controversy in the debate whether crop circles are a result of extraterrestrial activity.

SnarfVader

What controversy? There is no credible evidence that these crop circles are anything more than elaborate hoaxes at best.

Why are they ignoring natural causes? Maybe it was wind and/or animal damage.


I don't think WIND could make something that precise. Come on, it was math geeks.
 
2008-06-18 10:18:30 AM
clownpenis.fart: how did they get pi?

Starting from the center, each arc is a fraction of a circle that corresponds to a digit. Half a circle is a 5, a third of a circle is a 3, a tenth is a 1, etc.


Actually, 3/10ths of a circle arc represents 3, not 1/3rd of it. ;)
 
2008-06-18 10:18:39 AM
www.thetshirtblog.com
 
2008-06-18 10:18:39 AM
Well, the ones that said they did all those old ones, obviously haven't been around for the 300 odd years that crop circles have been documented. But everything before those guys was OBVIOUSLY natural phenoms.

And these sure travel, since America, New Zealand, the Asiatics, Africa, they all have circles too. Yep. All the work of two old farts with a stick, rope, and a loop on a baseball cap.

Oh, and for some reason, with some of the circles, they manage to sprinkle magnetized buckyballs and iron all over the place, using the very soil under them.


It's a toss up between some really weird, secret society, some unusual phenom, or aliens. At least the Vatican says aliens could exist. Not that they'd know anything about secret societies or unusual phenoms that we can't explain, right God?
 
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