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(AP)   Cardinals catcher trampled on a tag play and removed on a stretcher. YOU'RE DOING IT WRONG   (hosted.ap.org) divider line 47
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2008-06-15 07:49:44 PM  
i100.photobucket.com

Q+D
 
2008-06-15 07:54:31 PM  
He should have just let Bruntlett score.
 
2008-06-15 09:49:42 PM  
He did it right, dumbmitter: he held onto the ball.
 
2008-06-15 10:22:35 PM  
Has anyone found a video of the play?
 
wib
2008-06-16 12:14:57 AM  
he held up the ball after the play. OUT!
 
2008-06-16 12:43:53 AM  
Paul Pierce not impressed.
 
2008-06-16 01:20:39 AM  
Never made the tag, but you can't really tell a dude that when he's nearly unconscious.
 
2008-06-16 01:28:32 AM  
img210.imageshack.us
 
2008-06-16 01:30:01 AM  
mcwebe0: Has anyone found a video of the play?

Link (^)

/Yadi rocks
 
2008-06-16 01:30:25 AM  
As he was carted off, he looked to Pujols and Ankiel and screamed "AVENGE ME, BOYS! AVENGE ME!"
 
2008-06-16 01:32:28 AM  
Dinty Moore's Law: Link (^)

1. Looks like he made the tag on the right knee before getting creamed

2. How much of an ass is charlie manuel for coming out within 45 seconds and arguing the call
 
2008-06-16 01:34:03 AM  
Good god, another injured cardinal.
 
2008-06-16 01:42:02 AM  
lolmadillo: As he was carted off, he looked to Pujols and Ankiel and screamed "AVENGE ME, BOYS! AVENGE ME!"

And Pujols was like, "Dude, not for another three to four weeks. I'm on the DL." Only he said it with a heavy Latin accent.
 
2008-06-16 01:54:16 AM  
It's ironic that the backup catcher drilled his back straight down into the ground. That"s why he got hurt. Fundamentals.
 
2008-06-16 02:03:38 AM  
Phelyx: Good god, another injured cardinal.

Amen.

That said, and after viewing the video, is it really necessary to have "St. Louis Cardinals" printed on the farking spineboard they carted Yadi off with? WTF?!
 
2008-06-16 02:08:06 AM  
Let's see, making the tag, holding onto the ball, and sacrificing his body during the 9th inning of a tie game is wrong, Subby?

Really?
 
2008-06-16 02:40:54 AM  
He got the out and his team won the game. I'd say he did something right, though his head might disagree.
 
2008-06-16 02:53:01 AM  
peterstork670: "Dude, not for another three to four weeks. I'm on the DL.

thanks for reminding me AND ruining my cultural reference in one fell swoop

i was basically referring more to pujols ability to cripple one third of a lineup in one inning...

/dl be damned
 
2008-06-16 03:26:13 AM  
Subby, he blocked the plate and held onto the ball. HE DID IT RIGHT.

/former catcher.
 
2008-06-16 07:19:17 AM  
peterstork670: lolmadillo: As he was carted off, he looked to Pujols and Ankiel and screamed "AVENGE ME, BOYS! AVENGE ME!"

And Pujols was like, "Dude, not for another three to four weeks. I'm on the DL." Only he said it with a heavy Latin accent.


farm1.static.flickr.com
 
2008-06-16 08:37:58 AM  
Dinty Moore's Law: Phelyx: Good god, another injured cardinal.

Amen.

That said, and after viewing the video, is it really necessary to have "St. Louis Cardinals" printed on the farking spineboard they carted Yadi off with? WTF?!


hehe. I thought the same thing. Maybe they were afraid the Phillies would steal their spineboard, seeing as they have none.
 
2008-06-16 08:41:22 AM  
Wadded Beef: Subby, he blocked the plate and held onto the ball. HE DID IT RIGHT.

I came here to say this. The guy saved the game for the Cardinals. By sending Bruntlett home on contact, Charlie Manuel made the decision to force the Cards to make the perfect play to get him out, and they did. The first baseman made a great fielding play, and Molina did an UNREAL job of catching the ball on one hop, tagging Bruntlett, and then holding onto the ball after being steamrolled. Sometimes you just have to give the other team credit where credit is due.

Not sure what submitter was going for here with that trollerific headline. -1

/Phils phan
//watched the play live
///Gordon gave that game away
 
2008-06-16 08:44:46 AM  
antrat00: Maybe they were afraid the Phillies would steal their spineboard, seeing as they have none.

1/10
 
2008-06-16 08:47:35 AM  
submittard is probably a cubs fan.
 
2008-06-16 09:25:37 AM  
Tartan69: ///Gordon gave that game away

He should be practicing covering first base non-stop for the rest of the season for that.
 
2008-06-16 09:30:24 AM  
a) the guy should have slid seeing as the catcher had his back turned and would be blindly swiping to tag him.

b) not to bag on a guy who got hurt, but bad footwork put him in that dangerous position.
 
2008-06-16 09:41:51 AM  
Tartan69: Wadded Beef: Subby, he blocked the plate and held onto the ball. HE DID IT RIGHT.

I came here to say this. The guy saved the game for the Cardinals. By sending Bruntlett home on contact, Charlie Manuel made the decision to force the Cards to make the perfect play to get him out, and they did. The first baseman made a great fielding play, and Molina did an UNREAL job of catching the ball on one hop, tagging Bruntlett, and then holding onto the ball after being steamrolled. Sometimes you just have to give the other team credit where credit is due.

Not sure what submitter was going for here with that trollerific headline.


I came in here to figure this out then. Who's at fault? I figured he was disoriented and put himself in the wrong spot over the plate, but you guise say it's ok to block the plate (I don't know the 'finer' rules of baseball). So is that runner to blame in any way for driving his body right through that guy's head, or is this just one of those things that happens in baseball from time to time. Looks like the runner could have slid or something. Are the Cards pissed, or are they like "tough luck, bud"?
 
2008-06-16 09:43:19 AM  
antrat00: Dinty Moore's Law: Phelyx: Good god, another injured cardinal.

Amen.

That said, and after viewing the video, is it really necessary to have "St. Louis Cardinals" printed on the farking spineboard they carted Yadi off with? WTF?!

hehe. I thought the same thing. Maybe they were afraid the Phillies would steal their spineboard, seeing as they have none.


Gayest statement EVAR!!!!!
 
2008-06-16 10:10:02 AM  
Obviously submitter was talking about the photoshop opportunity of the picture. A year from now when people start posting, "you're doing it wrong" pics, this will be there right next to the guy who gets hit with the soccer ball and the dog that missed the tennis ball.

Not many people will remember why the catcher was in that position.
 
2008-06-16 10:26:46 AM  
Um. One could make the case that Chris DunKan made a really poor throw and Yadi had the nutz to hold on...
 
2008-06-16 10:44:36 AM  
Dinty Moore's Law: mcwebe0: Has anyone found a video of the play?

Link (^)

/Yadi rocks


Thanks. I did some looking, but I couldn't find it.

A few thoughts on the play. I'm not sure if he made the tag, but given the view in the first replay angle, it would be tough to overturn the ruling on the field, because he had the glove in the right spot to make the tag as the collision happened and the ump was looking right at them from the same spot. Even if he never quite made the tag, he got really close and paid the price. I'd give it to him.

As for Charlie Manuel coming out more or less immediately and arguing the call, what else is he gonna do? The ump's just standing there talking with his player about the call. He did the right thing and made sure that he was the one arguing with the ump, not the base runner. That way if anyone gets kicked out, it's him. It's not like he and the ump were in a shouting match or anything. He just went, "Did he actually make the tag?" The ump went, "Yup." Then he walked away. (This conversation was imagined by examining their body language.)

The announcers were wrong about whether the runner touched up, though. In the live view, you can clearly see him walk around Molina and touch up. He did his job, too.
 
2008-06-16 11:05:19 AM  
Dear Jerk:It's ironic that the backup catcher drilled his back straight down into the ground. That"s why he got hurt. Fundamentals.

Uhhh... what?

What backup catcher? What are you talking about?
 
2008-06-16 11:30:17 AM  
Man, in Little League, your ass would be tossed if you didn't slide on a close play at home. Not that LL and MLB need the same rules, but it was kinda shady for the runner to plow Molina instead of sliding. Yeah, I know, I know... hope to knock the ball out of his hands and all.
 
2008-06-16 12:23:04 PM  
The runner did nothing wrong. Molina should know better than to turn his back on someonoe coming home.
 
2008-06-16 01:01:42 PM  
fark the molina brothers.
 
2008-06-16 01:48:39 PM  
stormmaster83: Man, in Little League, your ass would be tossed if you didn't slide on a close play at home. Not that LL and MLB need the same rules, but it was kinda shady for the runner to plow Molina instead of sliding. Yeah, I know, I know... hope to knock the ball out of his hands and all.

shady? Do you watch baseball? If he slides in that situation he risks injuring himself. Steamrolling the catcher while he's blocking the plate is part of the game. Hell, even LaRussa didn't have a problem with the play.

Get a clue, moran.

/Mets fan
//a concussion would be a nice reprieve from watching my overpaid prima donnas get their butts kicked night in, night out.
///if only we can get someone to run over Willie Randolph.
 
2008-06-16 02:11:23 PM  
S.A.S.Q.U.A.T.C.H.: Tartan69: Wadded Beef: Subby, he blocked the plate and held onto the ball. HE DID IT RIGHT.

I came here to say this. The guy saved the game for the Cardinals. By sending Bruntlett home on contact, Charlie Manuel made the decision to force the Cards to make the perfect play to get him out, and they did. The first baseman made a great fielding play, and Molina did an UNREAL job of catching the ball on one hop, tagging Bruntlett, and then holding onto the ball after being steamrolled. Sometimes you just have to give the other team credit where credit is due.

Not sure what submitter was going for here with that trollerific headline.

I came in here to figure this out then. Who's at fault? I figured he was disoriented and put himself in the wrong spot over the plate, but you guise say it's ok to block the plate (I don't know the 'finer' rules of baseball). So is that runner to blame in any way for driving his body right through that guy's head, or is this just one of those things that happens in baseball from time to time. Looks like the runner could have slid or something. Are the Cards pissed, or are they like "tough luck, bud"?


The problem started with the throw from first base. It is bounced and to the right of Molina. If it had been in the air and to his left he would have been facing the runner and in the proper position to make the tag. He tried to spin 360 to make the catch and tag, but the runner got him just past 180. Also the spin lowered Molina's shoulder so the runner's elbow caught him on the head instead. Cards understand it is part of the game.
 
2008-06-16 02:14:45 PM  
Wow, cheering an injury. Stay classy, subby.

/yes, I know it's Fark, still lame
 
2008-06-16 03:21:15 PM  
Crewmannumber6: The runner did nothing wrong. Molina should know better than to turn his back on someonoe coming home.

In fairness to Molina, I do believe he turned his back to the runner because that was the only way to stop the ball from going to the backstop. It was a terrible throw.
 
2008-06-16 03:40:45 PM  
stormmaster83: Man, in Little League, your ass would be tossed if you didn't slide on a close play at home. Not that LL and MLB need the same rules, but it was kinda shady for the runner to plow Molina instead of sliding. Yeah, I know, I know... hope to knock the ball out of his hands and all.

Granted you admitted it already, but the idea that millionaire professionals should be held to the same rules designed for relatively fragile 11-year-olds is absolutely retarded. Congratulations, here's a pile of FAIL.
 
2008-06-16 04:46:52 PM  
exno: fark the molina brothers.

Awww, someone's jealous because their team doesn't have one of the 3 wonder-catchers. Seriously, what did their parents feed them?

/I miss Bengie and José on the Angels
 
2008-06-16 05:01:22 PM  
That was a seriously horrible throw from the first baseman, which forced Molina to turn his back to the play. Who the hell is the Phillies 1st baseman, Mark Wohlers?
 
2008-06-16 05:11:13 PM  
he should have slid to avoid the tag, the guy running to home looked like a pregnant gazelle
 
2008-06-16 05:58:34 PM  
Moses To Sandy Koufax: That was a seriously horrible throw from the first baseman, which forced Molina to turn his back to the play. Who the hell is the Phillies 1st baseman, Mark Wohlers?

Only former MVP and ROY Ryan Howard

/I'm guessing you meant the Cards 1st baseman
//it was Chris Duncan
 
2008-06-16 07:21:16 PM  
I didn't know Sarah Jessica Parker watched the Cardinals
 
2008-06-16 08:04:10 PM  
Maybe this year Yadier will get a well deserved Gold Glove. He's been robbed the last couple years.
 
2008-06-19 02:20:11 AM  
Damn Spixicans comin' in and stealin' our jobs. Can't get Amurrican insurance, either, can you, ese?


/Mexickish?
 
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