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(ABC)   Pennsylvania official who introduced new tax on booze surprised to find that it's made him only slightly less popular than Osama bin Laden among Pennsylvanians who drink to try and forget that they have to live in that shiathole   (abcnews.go.com) divider line 165
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2008-06-15 06:47:27 PM  
Subby is made of teh fayl,

LOL
 
2008-06-15 06:50:36 PM  
Get over it, people. It's a dime for every watered-down dollar draft. If that's a financial hardship, you probably need to cut back for other reasons!
 
2008-06-15 06:50:38 PM  
We live in a nanny state so it is normal and perfectly acceptable to put sin taxes on immoral things like booze and cigarettes.
 
2008-06-15 06:51:57 PM  
fenian-: I love it when people post an endless series of oversized graphics that take more than 2 pages to scroll by. I bet dialup users love it even more.

Is anyone still on dialup anymore?
 
2008-06-15 06:52:10 PM  
pghjetta: Get over it, people. It's a dime for every watered-down dollar draft. If that's a financial hardship, you probably need to cut back for other reasons!

Too bad it isnt the first dime of tax on that drink.
 
2008-06-15 06:52:24 PM  
New Hope is nice.

I don't much care for the rest of the place.
 
2008-06-15 06:52:41 PM  
too2ez: I live in God-forsaken Flori-duh and even I can attest to the fact that Pennsylvania is indeed a shiathole.

Of course, the fact that I am from Butler may have something to do with that outlook. Anyone who has even driven past Butler knows what I mean. It can suck the life from your soul even in a car doing 70 MPH.

But then again, I did live all over the state (Pittsburgh, Stroudsburg, Pottstown, Sunbury and several other places - Dad was in the hotel business - kind of like being an Army brat). None of the other places are much better.


I for one think my move from Butler to Pittsburgh was a hell of an improvement.
 
2008-06-15 06:53:15 PM  
Go fark a meat grinder, subby. I love this state.

I couldn't give a shiat about the liquor laws here, anyway. Can't stand the stuff.
 
2008-06-15 06:53:47 PM  
pghjetta: Get over it, people. It's a dime for every watered-down dollar draft. If that's a financial hardship, you probably need to cut back for other reasons!

I say the same thing about houses, cars, and dollars that go to public schools.
 
2008-06-15 06:54:06 PM  
That whole system confused the hell outta me the first time I dealt with it. Trying to find some Iron City for a friend while on a road trip, went to a state liquor store, no beer. Ask the manager, he tells me (after asking if i was after a 6-pack or more) to go find the "beer wholesaler" down the street.

Seriously, how hard is it to put all your booze in one spot like the rest of the world???
 
2008-06-15 06:54:18 PM  
rocinante721: I cannot attest for anything outside of the general Philly area, but:

Where's Yuengling?
 
2008-06-15 06:54:45 PM  
blkhwk86: My brothers and i went insane there. It...is farking...BORING. Nothing to do, nothing to drink(since everything is closed by 8), and you're left with being sober and walking around(if you can). Not surprised at this guy being unpopular. Maybe they should allow grocery stores to sell liquor and beer and allow them to sell past 8pm.

I read, "You can't buy booze and when I'm sober, I'm boring."
 
2008-06-15 06:56:12 PM  
neitherman:
I for one think my move from Butler to Pittsburgh was a hell of an improvement.


I have no doubt you are correct. Moving from Butler to HELL is an improvement.
 
2008-06-15 06:56:34 PM  
I Fark: I read, "You can't buy booze and when I'm sober, I'm boring."

Most people I know are.

/guilty
 
2008-06-15 06:56:41 PM  
I live right across the Allegheny county line, and the bars around here are getting more business. People will just drive across the river to pay less. The bars in Allegheny county on the borders are the ones who are being hit hardest, I guess.

Still, I think the overall economy is what is effecting bar sales, the drink tax is just the icing on the cake.

And yea, Port Authority needs to hire a new accountant.
 
2008-06-15 06:59:28 PM  
CelesX: Still, I think the overall economy is what is effecting bar sales, the drink tax is just the icing on the cake.

If the economy got better, effecting may work. For now, they are affecting them.
 
2008-06-15 07:02:28 PM  
Reading this tag-line made my brain hurt.
"Pennsylvania official who introduced new tax on booze surprised to find that it's made him only slightly less popular than Osama bin Laden among Pennsylvanians who drink to try and forget that they have to live in that shiathole"

Here is a suggestion: Your tag-line doesn't have to be a single sentence.
Multiple coherent sentences are preferred to a confusing run-on sentence.
 
2008-06-15 07:07:27 PM  
tonesskin: CelesX: Still, I think the overall economy is what is effecting bar sales, the drink tax is just the icing on the cake.

If the economy got better, effecting may work. For now, they are affecting them.


Touche
 
2008-06-15 07:11:38 PM  
Dude, subby, way to insult the entire state of Pennsylvania...

/West Virginia, I could understand...
 
2008-06-15 07:16:20 PM  
The 10 percent drink tax, in effect since January, was pushed along by Allegheny County Executive Dan Onorato to subsidize public transit. The two-term Democrat says he had no choice; swallow that, he said, or property taxes would have to be hiked.

Yes, because heaven forbid the government do what ordinary citizens do when their expenses rise: find ways to cut back. No, why be fiscally responsible when you can demand more money from the taxpayers no matter how badly you waste the money you already have?
 
2008-06-15 07:18:28 PM  
tbernot: rocinante721: I cannot attest for anything outside of the general Philly area, but:

Where's Yuengling?


Made in Tampa
 
2008-06-15 07:21:38 PM  
I hope he dies soon in a car crash with a beer truck
 
2008-06-15 07:22:13 PM  
www.popcitymedia.com

"i said two cases of vodka, not gin you moron!"
 
2008-06-15 07:22:55 PM  
Wow, I never knowed there was so many Pennsyltukians on Fark. This is really a great state, Philthydelphia aside. Sure our roads aren't the smoothest, the scenery is mostly farmland, and our state beer is Yuengling, which by the way is just Budweiser strained through an old sock. But we have the best food at our festivals. Halupki, halushki, belinis, pierogies, and spiced corn on the cob.
 
2008-06-15 07:24:41 PM  
"Seriously? You think I want to go back to Pennsylvania? Nonono.

I'll just stay here playing Russian roulette, thank you very much."
 
2008-06-15 07:24:52 PM  
They did not have to do that to ease public transit. All they had to do was clean up the county a bit and get rid of the dead weight.
 
2008-06-15 07:28:56 PM  
kennett square, PA born and bred, baby, and lemme tell ya, after living in boston for 4 years, i miss that south east corner of pennsylvania SO BAD!!

/even miss the smell of mushroom farms in the morning sometimes :sniff:
 
2008-06-15 07:29:32 PM  
Opponents say the county is likely to get considerably more than the $32 million it needs to subsidize mass transit. The county executive says any surplus can be used for transportation capital projects.

Why does "more than expected revenue" mean automatically that additional new spending must be found to spend it when I am sure there is debt someplace in the same government that could be paid?

He isn't a liberal, is he?
 
2008-06-15 07:30:08 PM  
rocinante721: tbernot: rocinante721: I cannot attest for anything outside of the general Philly area, but:

Where's Yuengling?

Made in Tampa


Still made in Pottsville I believe, second brewery is located in Tampa.
 
2008-06-15 07:39:17 PM  
Nevermind that Pittsburgh is America's most livable city...or that we have attractions such as the Carnegie & Warhol Museums, the historic South Side, the inclines, or that we have the Penguins, Steelers, and Pirates. I love it here. I moved back after spending a little under 2 years in Phoenix. You can walk down the street here and say hello to people and they actually say hello back.

/ Subby, I'd like to know what part of the country your from?
// Gimme an Iron.
 
2008-06-15 07:42:24 PM  
The problem is that the Port Authority generated $64 million in revenue in 2005 while spending $234 million in wages, pensions and benefits.

Unfortunately, we can't seem to get the city officials to declare the Port Authority bankrupt and start all over.

And it, of course, is criminal to ask people that actually use the bus to pay more for the service. When gas goes up, I have to pay more to put it in my tank, why can't the passengers pay more?

I should also mention that there was a story in Pittsburgh a few months ago that informed us that the Port Authority has dozens of barrels of money lying around that they haven't counted because, "it's hard to get union workers to count it."

I say that all the bar owners should pay the 10% drink tax in loose change.

Fark Dan Onorato
 
2008-06-15 07:47:20 PM  
SteelCityKid: Nice troll fag. Headline sucks +1. Pittsburgh is full of win fail.

FTFY
 
2008-06-15 07:49:46 PM  
PsychoPhil: Oh, duh:
The 10 percent drink tax, in effect since January, was pushed along by Allegheny County Executive Dan Onorato to subsidize public transit.

Here's a better idea: Get rid of the deadwood at SEPTA. Seriously, a 3 car train doesn't need 5 people running it...


I do believe that you spilled some FAIL in this thread. To be fair, SEPTA does need work, but I will give you a hint.

(Allegheny County = Pittsburgh which = Western edge of PA, SEPTA = South Eastern Pennsylvania Transit Authority)
 
2008-06-15 07:52:23 PM  
As one who pays the 10% tax, I'm all for it. And, I very, very rarely use the mass transit here. There's an easy way to avoid the tax: Drink at home. The Port Authority has been sucking money left and right. This will help pay for and if there is a surplus we can build a few things that it needs to become a world class service. Right now it's OK if you're heading into the city from the suburbs or the other way around. Heaven forbid, though, if you need to get from the South Hills to the East Hills. We're talking about serious time. In a car it'd be at 25 minutes. By bus it would take over two hours.
 
2008-06-15 07:56:09 PM  
i125.photobucket.com

The Gang would like to have a word with you, Subby...
 
2008-06-15 07:56:50 PM  
Frau Doctor Girlfriend: /even miss the smell of mushroom farms in the morning sometimes :sniff:

That's the kind of odor that follows your sense of smell down the street and beats it up for pocket lint.
 
2008-06-15 07:59:41 PM  
Just remember folks, between United States Steel, H.C. Frick Company, Pittsburgh Plate Glass, and Westinghouse Electric, my city built yours.

So yinz can sit dahn and shut the fark up.
 
2008-06-15 08:01:31 PM  
www.proudpittsburgh.com
 
2008-06-15 08:05:20 PM  
Well, I don't know about beer snobbery in PA, but I have personally banged the shiat out of some hot Meadville babes in my day....
 
2008-06-15 08:09:20 PM  
We have no business presence in PA but the department of taxation says we have to pay PA business tax.

I told the tax agent to suck my ballz.
 
2008-06-15 08:16:44 PM  
The microbrews in central PA, from what I gather, are some decent stuff. Victory (see rocinante721's post) is great. I'm assuming that all these PA-haters found themselves lost in Pittsburgh or out in the farmland somewhere.
 
2008-06-15 08:17:32 PM  
FTFA: County Executive Dan Onorato

I read "Odorono" of course...

/She ripped her glittering gown
//Couldn't face another show, no
///Her deoderant had let her down
////She should've used Odorono!

//It's smooooooth sailing with the highly successful sound of wonderfullllll radiooooo Londonnnnnn!!
 
2008-06-15 08:21:50 PM  
So, how are PA homebrew supply stores doing these days?

/Working on my very first batch right now!
//Airlock's gurgling every 1 to 2 minutes now in secondary...
 
2008-06-15 08:23:13 PM  
PsychoPhil: Oh, duh:
The 10 percent drink tax, in effect since January, was pushed along by Allegheny County Executive Dan Onorato to subsidize public transit.

Here's a better idea: Get rid of the deadwood at SEPTA. Seriously, a 3 car train doesn't need 5 people running it...


Considering that SEPTA doesn't exist in Allegheny County (on the other side of the state, friend), your idea seems to be missing something...
 
2008-06-15 08:29:43 PM  
You came for my ∏ and told me it was only 3.0,

Now they come for your liquor and I will laugh



Which framework of morality should be to blame? For the matter does not seem to be optimally resolved and thus logical interference has occured
 
2008-06-15 08:32:05 PM  
As someone who has lived in PA most of his life and doesn't drink, I am getting a kick out of your poor farkers who can't figure out how to keep stocked up on booze without being able to get it 24/7.

/idiots
 
2008-06-15 08:32:13 PM  
strangeguitar: Just got done playing a great round of gold w/ my father at Westover CC, then went to Iron Hill Brewery in Montgomeryville for drinks. That's all I need.

Any recommendations for Iron Hill? Shame on me for living five minutes away and never going there.
 
2008-06-15 08:37:03 PM  
love-m'-beer
Well, I don't know about beer snobbery in PA, but I have personally banged the shiat out of some hot Meadville babes in my day....


hot chicks in Meadville?

where?


oh and...
we need a western Pennsyltucky Fark/cornfield party
 
2008-06-15 08:43:52 PM  
Hagbardr: strangeguitar: Just got done playing a great round of gold w/ my father at Westover CC, then went to Iron Hill Brewery in Montgomeryville for drinks. That's all I need.

Any recommendations for Iron Hill? Shame on me for living five minutes away and never going there.


Get the 12 piece sampler. Should help you figure out what you like and what you don't.

As for the actual thread... I am a pittsburgher and while the 10% tax sucks, it's still an order of magnitude cheaper to drink in Pgh than other cities (from what I've seen).
 
2008-06-15 08:48:39 PM  
Just wait until they manage to finish taxing cigarettes out of existence. It is a toss up who the health nazis will come after next. Fast food or alcohol? Your guess is as good as mine, but the phrase "second hand alcohol" has been tossed around already.

/shrug
 
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