guess what

Reading that hurt my head.

I was digging around in my closet the other day and I found the same thing, what a coincidence.

so, it's faster than fiber????? hmmmmmmmmmm....

Aww... I was hoping it would lead into John Malkovich's head.

something I can remember: guess what

Chicken butt?

Yeah, right. This thing is attached to somebody's network someplace even if it is connected to a backbone directly. The backbones are owned and operated by somebody. You think that nobody is going to notice a large bump in traffic on it and start locating the source?

More likely it is a former spam-company building. In the early days when spammers actually bought connections they used to be centered there. Now they just use botnets and save tons on internet connection fees.

The line was put in via bribes and lies, so the phone company doesn't know it's there.

Benjimin_Dover: Yeah, right. This thing is attached to somebody's network someplace even if it is connected to a backbone directly. The backbones are owned and operated by somebody. You think that nobody is going to notice a large bump in traffic on it and start locating the source?

Erm... you've still got a fast fibre connection installed on the cheap - I don't think they're suggesting the future occupants aren't going to have to pay to use it.

I'm sure they will have to pay for the connection, the point is they don't have to pay to have the connection installed, I believe. I could be wrong.

It's a sad that they consider this "buried treasure". We gave the telcoms billions so that we could have these types of connections in to every home. Instead, the average most can get is a 768k DSL connection.

So there is a mux in the basement. Who cares.

Yeah, whatever did happen to all those taxes and fees we paid to have fiber optic to the curb by the year 2000?

Spud Boy: So there is a mux in the basement. Who cares.

Hah!

I love that they're getting all excited over something that's "several times faster than a T1". Congratulations, welcome to 1999.

jafiwam:
The line was put in via bribes and lies, so the phone company doesn't know it's there.

So, the telco has a self-managing network where no one would notice. Must be nice. I'm going to go work for that company.

Having worked in a few Boca Raton datacenters, I'm disappointed they don't include any real info on the type of line they have to this building. Faster than a T1, you don't say... meh, with as many OC3 has I've seen hooked up we have to have at least a OC12 worth of connectivity at the Boca POP (an OC3 is about 100 times as fast as a T1, OC12 is ~400 times as fast). And the fact they say it is private and connected to the internet doesn't make much sense unless they are talking about a VPN over it. If it really is private, whoopie do, they can only use it in there building, or where ever it is connected. If it is connected to the internet, they will have to have made some kind of peering arrangements, somewhere, or a network admin is going to notice some usage sooner or later and go investigating.

dark fiber or metro ethernet. either way, it's not as uncommon as they think, and you still would need to setup the network gear and peering relationship. The network gear and peering relationship is a much bigger nut than having the line. if it's dark fiber, the lasers might run ya 25k per site.

tynin: Having worked in a few Boca Raton datacenters...,

Yipes was very big on dark fiber. I think that's what it probably is. The article says yipes is 'defunt', which they aren't. They were bought out and still offer metro and dark fiber.

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lahuman8: Chicken butt?


Fried shut?

Cooked in grease... Wanna piece?

/I think the last time I ever uttered those words was jr high.. heh.

FASTER than a T-1 ?! OMG!! And here I am posting to fark on my useless 15Mbps DSL connection.. If only I could aspire to T-1 speeds..

It's greased lightning!

A real estate agent is trying to make a sale. 'Free super fast intertubes - faster than a T1. Did I mention that it is free? The roof is good for 225mph winds guaranteed.'

tynin: Having worked in a few Boca Raton datacenters, I'm disappointed they don't include any real info on the type of line they have to this building. Faster than a T1, you don't say... meh, with as many OC3 has I've seen hooked up we have to have at least a OC12 worth of connectivity at the Boca POP (an OC3 is about 100 times as fast as a T1, OC12 is ~400 times as fast). And the fact they say it is private and connected to the internet doesn't make much sense unless they are talking about a VPN over it. If it really is private, whoopie do, they can only use it in there building, or where ever it is connected. If it is connected to the internet, they will have to have made some kind of peering arrangements, somewhere, or a network admin is going to notice some usage sooner or later and go investigating.

The article dances all around it, but it sounds like they've got a connection on an OC12 ring. The telco wouldn't take it down just because one customer or location stopped service. The "private" connection means it terminates in an edge router. From the customer's perspective, that's the Internet right there. This setup is pretty standard for larger business and ISPs running off the bigger ISP. Peering is handled by the telco for them just like any other customer.

Some marketing dweeb got that story placed in order to help the owner peddle his building. The wire that powers my lamp is faster than a T-1.

Are YOU a MODERN MAN?!

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jjorsett: Some marketing dweeb got that story placed in order to help the owner peddle his building. The wire that powers my lamp is faster than a T-1.

winner.

What is the fastest type of (commonly available) internet connection? Cable? DSL? Satillite? Fiber thingy?

/ not tech smrt

As other have stated, Yipes spent millions building dark fiber metro ethernet networks all across the country. I worked for one of the companies that purchased a lot of their assets post-bankruptcy. In fact, Host.net was once one of my customers, and my company sold our Florida operations to Host.net in 2007 because we were sick of supporting the clusterfark that it was. Yipes did everyone a favor by building an awesome network and then selling it off for pennies on the dollar.

Basically, all this likely is is standard single-mode fiber which places this building on a ring of some type. It likely connects this building to a major peering point.

The author obviously has no idea what it is or what its capable of. Natively it is capable of gigabitethernet speeds (1000mbps) but with some additional hardware (10gbps gbics, CWDM or DWDM multiplexors) it could carry tens of gigabits/sec. Of course that equipment is really expensive and would only be of use if you were peered with another location that could handle that much bandwidth. It would be much more useful for a MAN than it would for a WAN.

As for who was paying for it all of this time? Well, in some markets Yipes built and managed their own physical network. In other worlds they were not leasing the fiber from anyone - it was theirs. So when they closed the doors the fiber stayed put.

If this building wants to use this network they are going to have to shell out cash to get it operational once again, and setup peering contacts. It will be worth it, but not a whole lot better than "traditional" connectivity. And it certainly is NOT "buried treasure" - its just a fiber line, people.

FTA: George Sacks, a Commercial Florida principal, said the discovery of the superfast Internet speedway would be a benefit to companies needing fast Web access and virtually unlimited bandwidth. Financial service firms, for instance, or professional service firms are prime candidates.

Boca is my hometown and George Sacks is my uncle! lol

MBA Whore: What is the fastest type of (commonly available) internet connection? Cable? DSL? Satillite? Fiber thingy?

/ not tech smrt

For that list (fastest to slowest, Fiber>Cable>DSL>Satellite. Had a few friends that had satellite, were lucky to hit ISDN speeds (128k down) during peek hours and maybe 256kb down on off hours. Ive seen DSL/ADSL packages up to 20mbps and cable up to 30mbps, I've seen fiber for business up to 5gbps.

You know those ads that appear in Time magazine or Popular Science. The ones that seem like a news story they have news headlines like "science discovers miricle cure for ED". They have interviews and sometimes even other ads on the page to fool you into thinking its an actual article.

That whole article was like an advertisement for the building management company. They should have to have the little advertisement text up in the corner like they do in the magazines when advertisers do a news like ad.

shiat, I've probably got a few of these in my office. Better issue a press release disguised as a legitimate news article.

Anyone who REALLY cares about fast intertubes would be installing their own crap anyway, so this press release^H^H^H^H news article is probably not written for them.

(sponsored link)?

Thing reads more like a plea for money than anything else.

freakdiablo: MBA Whore: What is the fastest type of (commonly available) internet connection? Cable? DSL? Satillite? Fiber thingy?

/ not tech smrt

For that list (fastest to slowest, Fiber>Cable>DSL>Satellite. Had a few friends that had satellite, were lucky to hit ISDN speeds (128k down) during peek hours and maybe 256kb down on off hours. Ive seen DSL/ADSL packages up to 20mbps and cable up to 30mbps, I've seen fiber for business up to 5gbps.

Wouldn't fibre be the fastest out of all available technologies, not just the list provided, with the limiting factor being the gear at the end of it?

Wow.. I can't believe it.. they got that intarnet everywhere these days.. I heard you can connect the phone to your computer and it will dial up to connect an other computer.. they can exchange text information at superhuman typing speeds.

Wow.. and it you can select text which is a portal to related information... I think it's like some sort of link, a "hyper-link", if you will, which creates a web of information linked together in such a way that you can get information about everything, some say even pictures of nude women..

/can't wait to grow old and tell the kids about it!

sofa_King_2006: something I can remember: guess what

lahuman8: Chicken butt?


Fried shut?

Cooked in grease... Wanna piece?

/I think the last time I ever uttered those words was jr high.. heh.

Everybody wanna piece of my chicken
Southern friend chicken
Finger licken
You hear me? (new window)

Jesus built my hybrid:
You know those ads that appear in Time magazine or Popular Science. The ones that seem like a news story they have news headlines like "science discovers miricle cure for ED". They have interviews and sometimes even other ads on the page to fool you into thinking its an actual article.

That whole article was like an advertisement for the building management company. They should have to have the little advertisement text up in the corner like they do in the magazines when advertisers do a news like ad.

Journalism-by-press-release. It's the new black, the cheapest and easiest way to fill column inches.

moof: FASTER than a T-1 ?! OMG!! And here I am posting to fark on my useless 15Mbps DSL connection.. If only I could aspire to T-1 speeds..

T1s arent that fast on DL speeds, but what most people pay for is the upload speed, you cant tell much of a difference going from DSL at 3-6mbs DL to 1.5 mbs DL, but you can tell a huge difference when you go from 128kbs upload to 1.5mbs upload.

Most people never have a need for it unless you run a lawyers office, real estate office, or an office that is the main connection for users. But T1 speeds are cheap now compared to what they were 10 years ago, I can get a T1 into an office for under $400/month easy.

No Such Agency: Journalism-by-press-release. It's the new black, the cheapest and easiest way to fill column inches.

Apparently you've never heard of Thomas Edison.

Well, it ain't Kinakuta, but...

/Obscure?

Is this a news organization or the press arm of the Boca Chamber of Commerce?

I'm moving my business to Boca ASAP! They have buildings with free connections right onto the valve stem of the intertubes and hardened data centers! This must be the high tech capital of the world.

What a pathetic paper.

I think it's funny that so many farker's felt the need to post an elaborate story about what they think is in this building, and how big of a deal this isn't.

If you don't know what fiber optics is, maybe it's because this Boca Raton HS teacher didn't teach that in her class

real shaman: so, it's faster than fiber????? hmmmmmmmmmm....

Tachyon pulse. The packets gets there before you send them.