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2008-06-09 06:18:58 PM
I'm quite happy my verizon contract ends at the end of June. I was pissed that I had another year left, but now I'm happy I didn't have to talk myself out of buying a 1st get iPhone last year.

I also just found out that my employer subsidizes AT&T cell phone contracts as well.

What a glorious day!

/need to start saving for two of the 8 gig models for me and the wife
//was seriously considering a Black Jack II for $50...no longer
 
2008-06-09 06:21:18 PM
we'll need to sign for a 3 year contract to get the iphone in Canada.... the data rates will probably be huge as well.
 
2008-06-09 06:26:36 PM
Dinobot: did I mention I don't spend hundreds on superficial gadgets that make me look like a douchebag as well?

So that just comes natural?
 
2008-06-09 06:30:14 PM
baraqel
I love the people who accuse others of being a "douche" for being able to afford the phone.

What makes you think you make more money than they do? Seems like most of the people I know with iPhones work at the bottom end of retail and hospitality. If my bar-back has one, it certainly isn't an issue of socioeconomic class...at least not in the direction you think it is.
 
2008-06-09 06:32:01 PM
Arnold T Pants: submitter: 3G iPhone is official and half the price of your crappy first gen iPhone

Lost in all of the excitement about the newer, cheaper iPhone 3G is this little nugget: AT&T is raising the cost of iPhone data plans from $20/month to $30/month for consumers (the plan price stays at $45/month for business users). Considering that you have to sign a two-year contract for voice and data to get iPhone 3G for $199 (8 GB) or $299 (16 GB), that new "lower" priced iPhone 3G will actually cost you more in the long run than the current "more expensive" iPhone (EDGE version)


... unless they do a raise of every current iPhone user's fees to 30 a month for data. It's not like they haven't done -that- before...

... but your point is well-made. I don't personally see it is that much of a difference, though.
 
2008-06-09 06:33:32 PM
equusdc: What makes you think you make more money than they do?

Generally, there is only one reason to actually get mad at people that have something nicer than you do.

If you HONESTLY don't want something nicer, you don't give a shat when others have something nicer.
 
2008-06-09 06:33:49 PM
So how will this effect iPod Touch prices, I wonder.

My guess is that they'll drop 8GB model and make the 16GB $199 and the 32GB $299
 
2008-06-09 06:42:14 PM
ChadManMn So what is the connection speed of 3G these days? 10 years ago, when it was being developed, 384k was the target. What was actually implemented in a typical US city?

Newest 3G speed ratings are: 755Kbps-1.6Mbps
 
2008-06-09 06:47:15 PM
If Apple lets me use another MP3 app to copy mp3s to the phone, then I'm sold.

Otherwise, let it be known that iTunes should die in a fire.

At least they moved away from iTunes to migrate your email contacts, and can allow Exchange and/or Outlook. No company is going to be a pure Apple environment.
 
2008-06-09 06:47:57 PM
Lt. Cheese Weasel: I know a bunch of VIPs drooling over this stupid device.
It's a farking phone people, not a status symbol. 90% of them have no clue how to use what they have now.
/blackberry admin
//1% of the people cause 99% of the problems.


What's in Your Pocket?
//I would estimate IT headcount at well over 1.5% on average. Ridiculous. You have a guy just for blackberries?
 
2008-06-09 06:49:35 PM
Leishu: Lost in all of the excitement about the newer, cheaper iPhone 3G is this little nugget: AT&T is raising the cost of iPhone data plans from $20/month to $30/month for consumers (the plan price stays at $45/month for business users).

... unless they do a raise of every current iPhone user's fees to 30 a month for data. It's not like they haven't done -that- before...


You forgot the part where they are also removing the included text messages from the plan, so you pay $10 more, and lose the old 200 text messages, which will cost you $5/mo to get back (assuming you text), so the price is actually much higher than the old one.
 
2008-06-09 06:50:55 PM
I spent $400 on my iPhone. When the new one gets here, I'll spend $400 on that one. Big deal.
 
2008-06-09 06:53:44 PM
impaler

If someone thinks a couple hundred bucks is significant enough to immediately conclude that others must be poor for not making the same purchase, they're probably poor. I mean, we're not talking Bugattis, yachts, wintering in Gstaad, summering in Nice. We're talking about a farking CELLPHONE.

i23.photobucket.com

$200 Cellphone is mines.
 
2008-06-09 07:02:06 PM
If someone thinks a couple hundred bucks is significant enough to immediately conclude that others must be poor for not making the same purchase

There is usually only one obstacle to acquiring something that makes one jealous of someone else: money. While $400 isn't much, for some people it is way too much for a phone.
 
2008-06-09 07:16:41 PM
I have a cheap, perfectly well-functioning alternative mp3 player with more than enough space for my music and no extra gimmicks and useless bullshiat, so I'm getting a kick out of these replies.

/do people honestly watch movies on those things?
//seriously?!
 
2008-06-09 07:19:44 PM
I'll keep my Blackberry.
 
2008-06-09 07:25:16 PM
I just want to know if i will have to pay more a month or not if not i will get one and give my old one away

/must know
// mario kart FTW
 
2008-06-09 07:25:48 PM
impaler
While $400 isn't much, for some people it is way too much for a phone.

Some might say that about $200 ballcaps.

i23.photobucket.com

Still meaningless.
 
DD0
2008-06-09 07:29:11 PM
X_Rated_Shennanigans: I have a cheap, perfectly well-functioning alternative mp3 player with more than enough space for my music and no extra gimmicks and useless bullshiat, so I'm getting a kick out of these replies.

/do people honestly watch movies on those things?
//seriously?!


I watched both seasons of Dexter on 2 business trips I had the other week. Watched a few on the plane and a lot more in the hotel.

Its also a lot faster to put a movie on it than to burn a DVD and I can just plug it straight into the TV. So ya, quite often.

But I know where you are coming from, it certainly isn't the best way to watch a movie.
 
2008-06-09 07:32:28 PM
One word: Airplane.

The iPhone was a godsend when I had to travel, because I could watch movies on it. The screen is just big enough to make it practical.

I was totally engrossed in Borne Ultimatum, and when the plane landed I was kinda disappointed.

Plus I keep my collection of Family Guy DVDs on it, so I can always get 5 mins worth of laughing during a break.
 
2008-06-09 07:33:19 PM
Archie Godwin: I don't hate Apple. I'm just smart enough ...
... to go into Apple threads and call Everyone Idiots.
 
2008-06-09 07:34:25 PM
MMS? Still not for me.

/iphone user
//viewmymessage.com is blowtastic for hot chickity MMS badness
 
2008-06-09 07:44:57 PM
t3knomanser: Lt. Cheese Weasel: It's a farking awesome phone handheld computer people, not a status symbol.

FTFY.




Right. A handheld computer with a great screen but no real keyboard, no removable storage, and limited support for 3rd-party apps. And of course the fact that 3G is over a year late. Does the iphone have GPS yet? Microsoft exchange?
 
2008-06-09 07:58:07 PM
J777D: ChadManMn So what is the connection speed of 3G these days? 10 years ago, when it was being developed, 384k was the target. What was actually implemented in a typical US city?

Newest 3G speed ratings are: 755Kbps-1.6Mbps


In what cities?

3.6Mbps just rolled out in Johannesburg. I was getting about 90% of the theoretical rate on the 1.8Mbps version. Most devices on sale now support 7.2, the max of the first gen HSDPA spec is 14.4Mbps.
 
2008-06-09 08:06:12 PM
WOOFYSF: I just want to know if i will have to pay more a month or not if not i will get one and give my old one away

/must know
// mario kart FTW


Yes, it is an extra $15 a month for the cheapest plan. Totally negates the point of lowering the cost if it ends up being more expensive after 2 years.
 
2008-06-09 08:07:02 PM
I'm all for mac fanboy bashing but if you can find a wifi enabled, full web browser phone with gps and $60 a month service for unlimited data PLEASE point me in the right direction. Otherwise you can stamp sheep on my head as I hand apple my stimulus check.
 
2008-06-09 08:07:57 PM
milo_rules: A handheld computer with a great screen but no real keyboard

Where the hell do you propose to put the keyboard?

milo_rules: no removable storage

It's called the Internet. I haven't used removable storage on anything aside from my camera for years.

milo_rules: and limited support for 3rd-party apps

Well, unlimited support for third party apps. But the apps themselves are limited thanks to the operating environment. Kinda like the XBox360. farkin' XBox.

milo_rules: And of course the fact that 3G is over a year late.

Late would imply that it was promised at a certain time and not delivered at that time. Since it was never promised, it can't be late.

milo_rules: Does the iphone have GPS yet? Microsoft exchange?

This release does. farking GPS. Waste of battery.
 
2008-06-09 08:08:21 PM
This is pretty tempting due to the fact my 1st gen had a dead spot on the screen and I havnt sent it in for warranty yet.

/I dont know if they will fix my current one for free.
//$200 isnt that bad.
///Must not burn money on a new Iphone.
 
2008-06-09 08:32:02 PM
Leishu: Arnold T Pants: submitter: 3G iPhone is official and half the price of your crappy first gen iPhone

Lost in all of the excitement about the newer, cheaper iPhone 3G is this little nugget: AT&T is raising the cost of iPhone data plans from $20/month to $30/month for consumers (the plan price stays at $45/month for business users). Considering that you have to sign a two-year contract for voice and data to get iPhone 3G for $199 (8 GB) or $299 (16 GB), that new "lower" priced iPhone 3G will actually cost you more in the long run than the current "more expensive" iPhone (EDGE version)

... unless they do a raise of every current iPhone user's fees to 30 a month for data. It's not like they haven't done -that- before...

... but your point is well-made. I don't personally see it is that much of a difference, though.



Not sure what you're talking about here. Been with Cingular for years. My contracts have never been raised on me nor have I ever heard of it happening to a current subscriber. Has to do with why they call it a "contract." They can try to raise rates and that gives me an out of my contract. Verizon has better service in my area anyway. I have a 160G iPod, and would be perfectly happy going back to a devoted cell phone. I do have a 1st gen iPhone and it's good at a great many things but for its primary function of being a phone it sucks some serious ass.

New people getting on the iPhone plan? Yea, you're farked.
 
2008-06-09 08:40:20 PM
X_Rated_Shennanigans: I have a cheap, perfectly well-functioning alternative mp3 player with more than enough space for my music and no extra gimmicks and useless bullshiat, so I'm getting a kick out of these replies.

/do people honestly watch movies on those things?
//seriously?!


I've watched a few movies on mine. I travel a lot and it's great on the plane or in the airport. Plus it's small enough that you can shield the screen when watching The Hills Have Eyes and similar.
 
2008-06-09 08:45:43 PM
someguyinfla: X_Rated_Shennanigans: I have a cheap, perfectly well-functioning alternative mp3 player with more than enough space for my music and no extra gimmicks and useless bullshiat, so I'm getting a kick out of these replies.

/do people honestly watch movies on those things?
//seriously?!

I've watched a few movies on mine. I travel a lot and it's great on the plane or in the airport. Plus it's small enough that you can shield the screen when watching The Hills Have Eyes and similar.


Yea, it's a pretty sweet mobile movie player.

Any time I have to wait, I pull it out and start watching a movie. Comes in real handy at the airport, waiting on a car work at the shop, get dragged shopping...

Still my biggest gripe is that it's just awful as a phone. Yea, it's great and all that you can use a BT earpiece but it's just idiotic to not have voice activated dialing you can get on a cheap pos RAZR and up from Motorola.
 
2008-06-09 09:15:39 PM
t3knomanser: milo_rules: A handheld computer with a great screen but no real keyboard

Where the hell do you propose to put the keyboard?

milo_rules: no removable storage

It's called the Internet. I haven't used removable storage on anything aside from my camera for years.

milo_rules: and limited support for 3rd-party apps

Well, unlimited support for third party apps. But the apps themselves are limited thanks to the operating environment. Kinda like the XBox360. farkin' XBox.

milo_rules: And of course the fact that 3G is over a year late.

Late would imply that it was promised at a certain time and not delivered at that time. Since it was never promised, it can't be late.

milo_rules: Does the iphone have GPS yet? Microsoft exchange?

This release does. farking GPS. Waste of battery.


Apart from the screen (and just the screen), the features on the iphone don't come close to those on the ATT Tilt. Such as: real keyboard, removable battery, membership in the open handset alliance (read: Android support). I love the removable storage because I can put the microSD in my Nikon D80 (via adapter), shoot photos on the card, then upload the photos via my phone's 3G to flickr or other photo sites.

Apple's strategy: make OK products that are heavy on design but light on features, then double the price and market the hell out of it. On that note, does the iPod have an FM radio yet?
 
2008-06-09 09:18:23 PM
hyuganet: taurusowner: Still not enough space for me. Once they come out with an 80GB or 120GB version, maybe I'll bite. The internet and all that is pretty cool, but my Dash can do that too. With Flash. AS for all of the media player stuff, I don't see the point in getting an 8 or 16GB media player when I have 60+ GB of media. I'll just a take a regular iPod for the media and my Outlook compliant Dash for the phone internet stuff. Combining them together is a neat idea. Nice try Apple. But not good enough until the storage space catches up to the iPod.

Flash is faster and requires a crapton less battery while also not breaking down from heavy use after a year.



Strange, my iRiver ihp-120, which has a 20gb 1.8" hard drive, is now 4 years old and still working great. The battery still holds about 8-hours worth of charge (which is about half the original capacity, but great after 4 years).
 
2008-06-09 09:20:50 PM
J777D: ChadManMn So what is the connection speed of 3G these days? 10 years ago, when it was being developed, 384k was the target. What was actually implemented in a typical US city?

Newest 3G speed ratings are: 755Kbps-1.6Mbps



In my area I get speeds up to 3.6Mbps. Sometimes I am in a lousy coverage area and I get stuck with EDGE, which is just garbage.
 
2008-06-09 09:24:35 PM
t3knomanser:
milo_rules: Does the iphone have GPS yet? Microsoft exchange?

This release does. farking GPS. Waste of battery.


You DO realize that GPS does not transmit but receives only? My GPS doesn't seem to eat up the battery too bad, even with 11 satelites in view. With GPS on, the phone is simply 'listening' for a GPS signal, not broadcasting anything. Of course with my ATT Tilt I can change the radio ROM for the most optimum battery/reception balance.

Too bad VisualGPSce won't work on iphone...
 
2008-06-09 09:30:20 PM
milo_rules:
Apart from the screen (and just the screen), the features on the iphone don't come close to those on the ATT Tilt. Such as: real keyboard, removable battery, membership in the open handset alliance (read: Android support). I love the removable storage because I can put the microSD in my Nikon D80 (via adapter), shoot photos on the card, then upload the photos via my phone's 3G to flickr or other photo sites.

Apple's strategy: make OK products that are heavy on design but light on features, then double the price and market the hell out of it. On that note, does the iPod have an FM radio yet?



I do like the keyboard on the iphone a lot better than a hard keyboard. I do not like not having a way to turn off the autocorrect. The camera takes great pictures but is admittedly lacking some standard features like zoom and such. Getting pictures off is a matter of hooking up the computer. As far as the OS goes, beats the living hell out of the windows crap. Fighting that shiat for a couple years got ooooolllld.

There is a $50 Apple addon to make the iPod into a radio. The iPod is lacking in features too in comparison to equivalent media players. I have a 160G and was more than happy to sacrifice the features for capacity and durability. It did everything I needed it to and I don't worry about breaking it.
 
2008-06-09 09:38:48 PM
Nocens:
There is a $50 Apple addon to make the iPod into a radio. The iPod is lacking in features too in comparison to equivalent media players. I have a 160G and was more than happy to sacrifice the features for capacity and durability. It did everything I needed it to and I don't worry about breaking it.


As Nocens pointed out, it's not all about the features but rather overall presentation. For 200, what you get with the new Iphone is a steal. I was thinking about getting a blackberry but depending on what the contract is with AT&T (switching from verizon) I might get one of these instead.
 
2008-06-09 09:43:27 PM
milo_rules: On that note, does the iPod have an FM radio yet?

What's FM radio?

milo_rules: real keyboard

Not a feature, it's a waste of space. Especially because I have yet to find a phone with a real keyboard that supports alternate keyboard layouts well. You QWERTY typing bastards can go hang.

milo_rules: removable battery

Not a feature. Battery case, door hinge, etc. would make the phone too large. Thus far, the only reason I've had to remove the battery in my phone is to force it to reboot after a nasty crash. The iPhone has a hardware reset button, which is a far better solution.

milo_rules: membership in the open handset alliance

Right now, that's vapor ware. But it's a great potential feature. Maybe. I hear those OpenMoko phones are gonna be awesome any day now.

milo_rules: then upload the photos via my phone's 3G to flickr or other photo sites

Okay, I could see how that would be desirable. I don't upload shots to my Flickr until I've gone over them a few times in Aperture or the Gimp, but I can see why that might be desirable.

milo_rules: make OK products that are heavy on design but light on features

The design is a feature. And an important one.

milo_rules: You DO realize that GPS does not transmit but receives only?

You do realize that (for me) it's utterly useless? And "listen only" still takes battery power. I want GPS in my real camera (D40), not my phone.
 
2008-06-09 09:56:37 PM
images.apple.com


Looks kinda like a Borg ship to me....
 
2008-06-09 10:06:36 PM
nathimuspr1me: -image of Helio Ocean-

When my contract runs out, I'm getting one. The iPhone lacks actual, physical buttons, which automatically turns me off. The Oceans, though? Sexay.
 
2008-06-09 10:18:01 PM
HobbularModule: The iPhone lacks actual, physical buttons

It has a few.

On a computer, I'd agree with you completely. Physical keyboards are great for typing. On a computer. Those Crackberry thumb-assaults on the other hand- they make the device big, ugly and really aren't all that great as keyboards go. Ditto on the Ocean. Sure, it's hidden behind the slider- but that slider makes it much thicker and is a mechanical hinge. I hate mechanical hinges on devices that I keep in my pocket. My cellphone, for example, has a sliding cover over the camera which activates the camera software when opened (even when the phone is locked). 3 times out of every twenty, I open that while rooting around in my pocket for something else.
 
2008-06-09 10:28:07 PM
Hot Carl To Go:
Here you go

Here you go:

img241.imageshack.us



FTFY
 
2008-06-09 10:34:52 PM
Dammit! Why can't we have it in Thailand yet?
 
2008-06-09 10:41:37 PM
stinky_pete
Why do 4 GB nanos cost the same as the new 8 GB phone w/GPS?
because you're paying for the brand

The 2 GB shuffle for $69 is a start, but kinda overpriced.


I personally recommend anything by Creative-why you ask?

An 8GB creative zen would only cost you $129.99 and has the ability to expand memory via SD cards. Compared to $299.99 for the Ipod touch-which is stuck at 8 GB and does not feature a radio, voice recorder, or expandable memory(or four other features creative has). And the creative is smaller than the ipod(credit card sized)

Battery life-Up to 30 hours of continuous audio or to 5 hours of video playback
Audio Playback Format: MP3, WMA, non-protected AAC, WAV and Audible 2,3 and 4
Photo Format: JPEG and (with transcoding - GIF, TIFF, PNG and BMP)
Video Playback Format: MJPEG, WMV9 and (with transcoding - MPEG1 and 2, MPEG4-SP, DivX 4 and 5 and XviD)
Organizer: Syncs with and views Microsoft Outlook® Contacts, Calendar and Tasks
additional Features:
Album Art
FM radio with 32 presets-not on ipod
Voice recorder-not on ipod
Clock and alarm function
Volume restriction-not on ipod
Customizable main menu-not on ipod
Functions as an external hard drive
8 EQ settings (Acoustic, classical, disco, jazz, new age, pop, rock and vocal)
Memory capacity expandable via SD cards-not on ipod
Most have video out to tv capability-not on ipod
transfer pics from your SD card to a zen-helpful if you run out of space-not on ipod

and awards include the Consumer Electronics Show "Best of CES" awards for three consecutive years for ZEN Portable Media Centre (2004), ZEN MicroPhoto MP3 player (2005) and ZEN Vision:M MP3 player (2006). The ZEN Micro MP3 player also won the Ziff Davis Media "Best of DigitalLife 2004" award.
Apple cannot say that-plus Creative created the very first portable MP3 player. A full 4 years before the ipod

//has a creative zen vision w-my screen is the size of your ipod=plus I can carry an extra battery-it's external- and I have a radio, and external speakers built in-suck it sheep
 
2008-06-09 10:42:57 PM
t3knomanser: HobbularModule: The iPhone lacks actual, physical buttons

It has a few.

On a computer, I'd agree with you completely. Physical keyboards are great for typing. On a computer. Those Crackberry thumb-assaults on the other hand- they make the device big, ugly and really aren't all that great as keyboards go. Ditto on the Ocean. Sure, it's hidden behind the slider- but that slider makes it much thicker and is a mechanical hinge. I hate mechanical hinges on devices that I keep in my pocket. My cellphone, for example, has a sliding cover over the camera which activates the camera software when opened (even when the phone is locked). 3 times out of every twenty, I open that while rooting around in my pocket for something else.



I dunno, I really like the virtual keyboards on a very good and responsive screen. If I could find a full-size keyboard that was as responsive as the iPhone's I'd buy one for my computer. Laptops with it would be even better.
 
2008-06-09 11:29:40 PM
Nocens: Leishu: Arnold T Pants: submitter: 3G iPhone is official and half the price of your crappy first gen iPhone

Lost in all of the excitement about the newer, cheaper iPhone 3G is this little nugget: AT&T is raising the cost of iPhone data plans from $20/month to $30/month for consumers (the plan price stays at $45/month for business users). Considering that you have to sign a two-year contract for voice and data to get iPhone 3G for $199 (8 GB) or $299 (16 GB), that new "lower" priced iPhone 3G will actually cost you more in the long run than the current "more expensive" iPhone (EDGE version)

... unless they do a raise of every current iPhone user's fees to 30 a month for data. It's not like they haven't done -that- before...

... but your point is well-made. I don't personally see it is that much of a difference, though.


Not sure what you're talking about here. Been with Cingular for years. My contracts have never been raised on me nor have I ever heard of it happening to a current subscriber. Has to do with why they call it a "contract." They can try to raise rates and that gives me an out of my contract. Verizon has better service in my area anyway. I have a 160G iPod, and would be perfectly happy going back to a devoted cell phone. I do have a 1st gen iPhone and it's good at a great many things but for its primary function of being a phone it sucks some serious ass.

New people getting on the iPhone plan? Yea, you're farked.


It hasn't happened to me on Cingular, yet, but it happened to me both on Verizon and Sprint, hence why I use Cingular now.
 
2008-06-09 11:30:29 PM
Or, rather, I use AT&T now.
 
2008-06-10 12:02:52 AM
Velveeta_Poindexter: When the iPhone holds 80+ gigs, has a 10 MP camera, and records video, I'll buy one.

Not until.



img104.imageshack.us

"So I guess we'll see in you about...20 years?"
 
2008-06-10 12:56:03 AM
Archie Godwin: stinky_pete: Why do 4 GB nanos cost the same as the new 8 GB phone w/GPS?

I was hoping for some announcement for the rest of the ipod line... Guess I'll hold on to my rebabe money for a while longer.

The 2 GB shuffle for $69 is a start, but kinda overpriced.

especially when the sansa 2 gig is like 20 bucks and..wait for it...plays mp3's also.

-----------------------------
Okay, i agree with you that the shuffle is overpriced. But... for god's sake... why the hell do people still think iPods can't play MP3s? they can play them! They have always been able to play them! My 5th gen. iPod has 6,500 songs on it, of which about 6,400 are MP3s. The difference is that it's CAPABLE of playing AAC files as well, just like the other guys sell players that play WMA files in addition to MP3s.
 
2008-06-10 01:32:34 AM
OSULugan: So how will this effect iPod Touch prices, I wonder.

i doubt it will effect change much, as the new lower price is a carrier subsidy, not a price drop.
 
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