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(National Post)   "An abundance of choice may actually make people unhappy." We're miserable because we have too much stuff and too many options. Call the pimped-out Whaaambulance   (nationalpost.com) divider line 114
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2008-06-09 11:12:19 AM
 
2008-06-09 11:26:44 AM
"An abundance of choice may actually make people unhappy."

Pirates, global temperature
 
2008-06-09 12:27:28 PM
Link to a book on the subject. Very accessible to the average person.
 
2008-06-09 12:39:50 PM
Seems more likely to me that a lack of self control is what's making people unhappy. If you buy shiat you don't need and can't afford, it's not the marketing's fault, it's YOUR FAULT.
 
2008-06-09 12:39:54 PM
People lose focus easily. People like focusing.
 
2008-06-09 12:40:08 PM
I know.
It's always, which hole do I want to use tonight?
 
2008-06-09 12:40:28 PM
I see why this might be true.
 
2008-06-09 12:40:50 PM
I believe WAAAAMbulance is spelled incorrectly. (without an H, i don't care how many A's are in it)
 
2008-06-09 12:41:00 PM
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/stand aside, please
 
2008-06-09 12:41:04 PM
Nah, unhappy because everyone is constantly bombarded with what everyone else HAS.
 
2008-06-09 12:41:04 PM
I may not be very focused, but at least I haven't lost my focus.
 
2008-06-09 12:41:26 PM
I love having a variety of choices.

It's easy to get all fuzzy and nostalgic about the Good Old Days when things were limited choice wise, but here's the big clue. Those people from the Good Old Days HATED having such a limited amount of choices, both in consumer goods AND life choices. That's why they invented THIS society.

Nobody is forcing anybody to wade through choices. Find a brand that works for you, then stick to it and the adds for other choices will melt into oblivion. I like Guiness, for example, so when I go into a store that has a variety of American crap beer I don't struggle with the choices, I pick up the lone import Guiness with a smile on my face, worry free.

If you think choice sucks try being without it for a while.
 
2008-06-09 12:41:35 PM
I hate having to chose between 20 brands of toilet paper so I just go with the generic.

With respect to beer, on the other hand, the more choices the better.
 
2008-06-09 12:41:44 PM
Ted talk on this: LINK - pops
 
2008-06-09 12:41:50 PM
That was a stupid article that made no sense at all and went no where. I'm never reading that article again!
 
2008-06-09 12:42:21 PM
The_Wilde_Yoh: I believe WAAAAMbulance is spelled incorrectly. (without an H, i don't care how many A's are in it)

Maybe it's what arrives if these guys get hurt
i278.photobucket.com
 
2008-06-09 12:42:38 PM
Freedom of Choice is Slavery to your own will.

a fancy way of saying "ignorance is bliss", basically.
 
Oak
2008-06-09 12:42:48 PM
An abundance of choice does seem to make stupid people unhappy.

Fark 'em. And hard.
 
2008-06-09 12:43:04 PM
debug: Seems more likely to me that a lack of self control is what's making people unhappy.

I don't think that as a species we're all that big on self-control.

And hearing/seeing/smelling ads 10,000 times a day that say "YOU'VE GOT TO HAVE THIS!" might convince/hypnotize even the least impressionable minds after a while to believe that they just might need the latest, shiniest piece of crap out there.
 
2008-06-09 12:43:06 PM
You mean that time when my dad let me pick a stripper for my 12th birthday and I couldn't decide between the redhead and the brunette so I got them both is the downfall of my happiness!?
 
2008-06-09 12:43:10 PM
Move to Socialist utopias like China or Cuba Vladimir!
 
2008-06-09 12:44:44 PM
seminole87: I hate having to chose between 20 brands of toilet paper so I just go with the generic.

so does my mother in law. i hate it when we visit. the stuff she buys is used in only the finest prisons and mental institutions
 
2008-06-09 12:44:58 PM
I choose not to decide.
 
2008-06-09 12:45:00 PM
People are happy...
 
2008-06-09 12:45:15 PM
Donald_McRonald: I choose not to decide.

If you choose not to decide, you still have made a choice.
 
2008-06-09 12:45:16 PM
The Socialist Ric Romero has called in to duty. It's true if you've ever lived in a communist or socialist country in the 80s. I remember having only two choices for shampoo - red (strawberry) and yellow (banana). So basically shampoo with the same crap they put in ice cream, cakes, soda drinks, etc.

/I get dizzy choosing shampoo now.
/simplicity FTW
 
2008-06-09 12:45:39 PM
Freedom of Choice - Devo

A victim of collision on the open sea
Nobody ever said that life was free
Sink, swam, go down with the ship
But use your freedom of choice

Ill say it again in the land of the free
Use your freedom of choice
Your freedom of choice

In ancient Rome there was a poem
About a dog who found two bones
He picked at one
He licked the other
He went in circles
He dropped dead

Freedom of choice
Is what you got
Freedom of choice!

Then if you got it you dont want it
Seems to be the rule of thumb
Dont be tricked by what you see
You got two ways to go

Ill say it again in the land of the free
Use your freedom of choice
Freedom of choice

Freedom of choice
Is what you got
Freedom of choice!

In ancient Rome
There was a poem
About a dog
Who found two bones
He picked at one
He licked the other
He went in circles
He dropped dead

Freedom of choice
Is what you got
Freedom from choice
Is what you want
(repeat)
 
2008-06-09 12:45:46 PM
I think this is probably the root cause of the Western disaffection with democracy. We have too many choices for public office, too many parties to consider. We're bound to become unhappy. A problem in the United States, but particularly so in places like Italy and Germany. They have so many political parties there, hence it's no surprise that the Germans and the French (not to mention the Italians) are a lot less happy than Americans.

One wonders if people will finally see the light and give up all this nonsense. 'Life, liberty and the pursuit of happiness' is all well and good, but how can it be accomplished under a system which, by definition, makes us unhappy?
 
2008-06-09 12:46:12 PM
Manage credit card debt!
 
2008-06-09 12:46:39 PM
Man On Fire: Freedom of Choice is Slavery to your own will.

a fancy way of saying "ignorance is bliss", basically.


*facepalm*
 
2008-06-09 12:47:15 PM
I didn't RTFA but there was a great article in Scientific American a few years back called "The Paradox of Choice", in which the thesis was basically people seek out and crave choice as the zenith of personal satisfaction and freedom - but each choice comes with a cost because making the best choice only leads to a small amount of satisfaction, while making a sub-optimal choice leads to an overwhelming amount of dissatisfaction.

Years ago, one had limited choices and with time, could always pick the best ones. Now, with so many choices, people are making more best choices for them, but overall, they are less happy because they are also making more sub-optimal choices.
 
2008-06-09 12:47:28 PM
albo: seminole87: I hate having to chose between 20 brands of toilet paper so I just go with the generic.

so does my mother in law. i hate it when we visit. the stuff she buys is used in only the finest prisons and mental institutions


I like that kind because it is not perfumed. I want to wipe my ass, not make it smell good.

/allergic to a lot of perfumes
 
2008-06-09 12:48:00 PM
We're miserable because we have too much stuff and too many little time to explore all of our options.

Sleep: ~8 hours
Work: ~8 hours
Commute: ~1 hour
shiat shower shave: ~ 1 hour
Cook, eat, wash dishes: ~1.5 hours
Laundry: ~.25 hours (amortized through the week)
Food shopping: ~.5 hours (amortized through the week)


20.25 hours gone, leaving just 3.75 hours per day of free time. Granted, you could skip on sleep, but that shiat catches back up to you. I'm sure there's a few things that I didn't add in as well (for example, playing with the cats, cleaning the house).

/glad I don't have a lawn to mow or a pool to clean.
 
2008-06-09 12:48:02 PM
squeky: Ted talk on this: LINK - pops

came here to link to that talk. Awesome one, btw.


/glad not to be the only tedster around here
 
2008-06-09 12:48:39 PM
Arbeit macht frei
 
2008-06-09 12:48:54 PM
I choose Veronica Zemanova; well that was easy.

On a serious note, the book "Data Smog: Surviving the Information Glut" - David Shenk, is quite good. I recommend it along with "The End of Patience".
 
2008-06-09 12:49:55 PM
lordargent: We're miserable because we have too much stuff and too many little time to explore all of our options.

Sleep: ~8 hours
Work: ~8 hours
Commute: ~1 hour
shiat shower shave: ~ 1 hour
Cook, eat, wash dishes: ~1.5 hours
Laundry: ~.25 hours (amortized through the week)
Food shopping: ~.5 hours (amortized through the week)


20.25 hours gone, leaving just 3.75 hours per day of free time. Granted, you could skip on sleep, but that shiat catches back up to you. I'm sure there's a few things that I didn't add in as well (for example, playing with the cats, cleaning the house).

/glad I don't have a lawn to mow or a pool to clean.


What about fapping time?
 
2008-06-09 12:50:12 PM
LowPlainsDrifter: Donald_McRonald: I choose not to decide.

If you choose not to decide, you still have made a choice.


I will choose freewill...
 
2008-06-09 12:50:44 PM
"There's the assumption that human beings make the best choices for how to lead a happy life,..."

Q: Can't make choices for yourself and other human beings would be just as farked up?

A: ROBOTS!
 
2008-06-09 12:51:02 PM
Man On Fire: Freedom of Choice is Slavery to your own will.

a fancy way of saying "ignorance is bliss", basically.



img297.imageshack.us

Slavery is Freedom, Asshat.
 
2008-06-09 12:51:11 PM
Decide for yourself how to live your own life.
 
2008-06-09 12:51:28 PM
samimgreen: LowPlainsDrifter: Donald_McRonald: I choose not to decide.

If you choose not to decide, you still have made a choice.

I will choose freewill...


:)

Well, you can choose from phantoms, fears and kindness that can kill, too, you know.
 
2008-06-09 12:51:34 PM
If you're depressed then I recommend you start up a good drinking habit. I'm drunk nearly half the week and I feel great.
 
2008-06-09 12:51:43 PM
So THATS why Richard Cory shot himself?
Ive always wondered.
 
2008-06-09 12:51:50 PM
thaduke: I think this is probably the root cause of the Western disaffection with democracy. We have too many choices for public office, too many parties to consider. We're bound to become unhappy. A problem in the United States, but particularly so in places like Italy and Germany. They have so many political parties there, hence it's no surprise that the Germans and the French (not to mention the Italians) are a lot less happy than Americans.

One wonders if people will finally see the light and give up all this nonsense. 'Life, liberty and the pursuit of happiness' is all well and good, but how can it be accomplished under a system which, by definition, makes us unhappy?


I agree. How soon can I be sworn in as dictator?
 
2008-06-09 12:52:49 PM
"An abundance of choice may actually make people unhappy." We're miserable because we have too much stuff and too many options. Call the pimped-out Whaaambulance

Would you like a basic EMT WAAAmbulance, a paramedic WAAAmbulance, or a Critical Care WAAAmbulance?
Boxy-style or van style? We also have a bariatric WAAAmbulance available if you'd like.
Would you like a mixed crew?
What special equipment do you need?
Emergent or nonemergent?
Do you need an air WAAAmbulance?
 
2008-06-09 12:53:53 PM
I'm glad I can choose between 20 brands of toilet paper that all work as advertised.

I'd be happy if I could elect a politician who would actually do his job as advertised.
 
2008-06-09 12:54:50 PM
I dunno. I kind of have to agree, though I think it's more the sense of entitlement that occurs with this bombardment that's more to blame. There are so many options and so much, many people feel they're entitled to shopping for the best of everything in life but ultimately can't focus on what's important and are always waiting for something better. This leaves them feeling unsatisfied.

My grandmother, who was happy to provide a stable life for my mom as a single parent and thrilled to simply be able to go to college part time between two jobs would laugh at kids who think their lives are over if they don't get into Yale and then spend six years at $40k a pop trying to decide what to do with their lives.

Ultimately, I side with the ability to choose (as I'm sure she would as well), but it does make it harder in some ways to stay grounded and actually MAKE the choice.
 
2008-06-09 12:55:06 PM
img75.imageshack.us
Choices are dangerous. Take the red pill today. Be happy in your work.
 
2008-06-09 12:55:37 PM
LowPlainsDrifter: samimgreen: LowPlainsDrifter: Donald_McRonald: I choose not to decide.

If you choose not to decide, you still have made a choice.

I will choose freewill...

:)

Well, you can choose from phantoms, fears and kindness that can kill, too, you know.


Better to live it now that to wait for the return of the Elder Race to set things right...
 
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