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2008-06-09 12:10:00 PM
DiosDiablo: as a chemist, I've always wanted "pHred" (pronounced like Fred).
Or just name the kid Adam, spell normally, but pronounce it weird, like "BOB".

/Not planning on kids anytime soon.


this is my favorite. when my friends talk about naming their spawn ("blaze" and "jet" were two recent suggestions), I use your idea. I suggest a name like "John" but that it should be pronounced "Mike". Or maybe spell the name any way you want, but the pronunciation is a simple sigh, or perhaps a click of some sort.
 
2008-06-09 12:10:29 PM
HBK: idrow: diesel3: Shawanda understands:

My stepdaughter works at the Cheesecake Factory and Shawanda and her family asked to have their 'skrimps' wrapped to go. So she packed them up and wrote 'skrimps' on the styro box. I still giggle at that when I think of it.

From now on, I will refer to all restaurant left-overs as skrimps. That is awesome.


Frankly it's sort of a cool neologism. Maybe she had shrimp for dinner, and it was her way of referring to "shrimp scraps"?

/nah
//doan ax me namor quexshins
 
2008-06-09 12:11:50 PM
Oznog: mtylerjr: When my first son was born 2 years ago, I really wanted to name him "Metatron"

Metatron, although sounding like a saturday morning cartoon character, is actually a jewish talmudic name, and thought to be the name of the angel that prevented Abraham from killing sacrificing his son... Also, some jews believe that he is also the same being that was the prophet Enoch:

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Metatron

I thought it would be "Kind of cool" but my wife said it was "Kind of really really stupid" and "Kind of no way in heck Im letting you name him that"



He also looked a lot like Severus Snape. Weird, huh?

/So, your wife would prefer to do the naming sans seraph?


You're my new hero.
 
2008-06-09 12:19:19 PM
Let's see... Bart, Bart...

Cart, Dart, Eee-art... Nope, no problems here!
 
2008-06-09 12:27:42 PM
I'm going to name my kid Terminator. Or Fluffernutter.


It doesn't matter because at this rate I'll never have 'em!
 
2008-06-09 12:51:34 PM
Lunch Box Hero: HBK: idrow: diesel3: Shawanda understands:

My stepdaughter works at the Cheesecake Factory and Shawanda and her family asked to have their 'skrimps' wrapped to go. So she packed them up and wrote 'skrimps' on the styro box. I still giggle at that when I think of it.

From now on, I will refer to all restaurant left-overs as skrimps. That is awesome.

Frankly it's sort of a cool neologism. Maybe she had shrimp for dinner, and it was her way of referring to "shrimp scraps"?

/nah
//doan ax me namor quexshins


Or what about skrimp as in "scrimp and save"? If you have leftovers, you're scrimping...

/Probably not in this case, but someone being pretentious could try that, I suppose.
 
2008-06-09 12:52:37 PM
aninconvenienterection: DiosDiablo: as a chemist, I've always wanted "pHred" (pronounced like Fred).
Or just name the kid Adam, spell normally, but pronounce it weird, like "BOB".

/Not planning on kids anytime soon.

this is my favorite. when my friends talk about naming their spawn ("blaze" and "jet" were two recent suggestions), I use your idea. I suggest a name like "John" but that it should be pronounced "Mike". Or maybe spell the name any way you want, but the pronunciation is a simple sigh, or perhaps a click of some sort.


Raymond Luxury-Yacht approves. (^)
 
2008-06-09 01:09:25 PM
trapped-in-CH: Correlation != Causation

Yeah, the study author quoted in TFA even said so. I'll quote it here just so everyone is clear that is not waht the authors are saying:

"The findings indicate that while the popularity of a juvenile's name has a correlation with crime, it doesn't necessarily cause the crime, said Lee.

``We're arguing it's not the name per se, that causes the juvenile to behave badly, but it's the family background,'' he said.

So, for parents who are already stressed out trying to find the perfect name for their kid, Lee has a word of advice: ``It's all right to give unique names to your children, but make sure you become a good parent.''
 
2008-06-09 01:16:59 PM
Dating a Metheusela now, he goes my Matt.
 
2008-06-09 01:17:34 PM
Dubai Vol: mtylerjr: Think of the sad children who try and find their name on the pre-made "so and so's room" signs and can't :(

Same for mugs and keychains. My name is Scot, with just the one t, because some stupid nurse asked my mother in her post-labor stupor "one t or two?" and she said "one!" It's rare enough to not get anything with my name on, but not unique. The minister in Doonesbury is Scot with one t,and I have met at least one other. He claimed to have lost the other t in a boating accident.

Half my in-laws still spell my name "Scott," but then my family call Mrs Dubai the wrong name too, because her name is unheard of in the US. But she CAN get a mug with her name in England, even though strictly speaking it is an Italian man's name; the English have taken it for girls: Nicola, pronounced NIC-ah-la, NOT ni-COLE-uh as my relatives just can't stop saying. Luckily, she's also known as "Nic," to the relief of my borderline senile aunts.

/rants, they are good for the soul


I am convinced that Nicola is the british verison of Jennifer in the 1980s. We recently licensed audit software from a firm in Leeds and out of their 15 employees, 3 are named Nicola, I also saw one on a BBC america completing my vague and un-researched opinion.
 
2008-06-09 01:28:38 PM
I went to school with a girl named "Rubina Hardin."

She was our class valedictorian. For some reason, I find that hilarious.

/too much free time
//too few IQ's
///pancakes
 
2008-06-09 01:44:04 PM
FloydA: aninconvenienterection: DiosDiablo: as a chemist, I've always wanted "pHred" (pronounced like Fred).
Or just name the kid Adam, spell normally, but pronounce it weird, like "BOB".

/Not planning on kids anytime soon.

this is my favorite. when my friends talk about naming their spawn ("blaze" and "jet" were two recent suggestions), I use your idea. I suggest a name like "John" but that it should be pronounced "Mike". Or maybe spell the name any way you want, but the pronunciation is a simple sigh, or perhaps a click of some sort.

Raymond Luxury-Yacht approves. (^)


now that is just outstanding. I had not seen that before, thanks.
 
2008-06-09 02:12:29 PM
I dunno, I never met anybody who was named "Brad" or "Brett" that wasn't a little criminal shiat.

/A Chris
 
2008-06-09 02:47:41 PM
wildcardjack: Hmmm....

Penn(y) Jillette

River Phoenix

Orenthal James Simpson

Colin Powell

Chaim Witz (Gene Simmons)

Julius Henry Marx (Groucho)

Not just juvenile delinquents. Adult delinquents to.




It's funny, just last night I learned that River Phoenix's birth name was "River Bottom".

//"You changed your name to Latrine?"
 
2008-06-09 03:35:56 PM
I like unusual names, though.
I've always liked my semi-unusual name. No one around here is named Holly.
Anyways, I plan on naming my daughter Jordis. It's Norse for sword maiden.
 
2008-06-09 03:40:32 PM
portia_srs: Lunch Box Hero: HBK: idrow: diesel3: Shawanda understands:

My stepdaughter works at the Cheesecake Factory and Shawanda and her family asked to have their 'skrimps' wrapped to go. So she packed them up and wrote 'skrimps' on the styro box. I still giggle at that when I think of it.

From now on, I will refer to all restaurant left-overs as skrimps. That is awesome.

Frankly it's sort of a cool neologism. Maybe she had shrimp for dinner, and it was her way of referring to "shrimp scraps"?

/nah
//doan ax me namor quexshins

Or what about skrimp as in "scrimp and save"? If you have leftovers, you're scrimping...

/Probably not in this case, but someone being pretentious could try that, I suppose.


Nope, it isn't that - I personally think it is willful stupidity, coupled with ignorance, a lack of education, and an unwillingness to correct oneself.

My mother-in-law, for instance, is a white woman nearly 70 years old, who grew up in Tennessee, wasn't educated past the 8th grade, married young, and had a ton of babies (all of them girls, which must have been fun for my father-in-law, whom I never met because he died a couple of years before I met my wife, all to my chagrin because although, according to my wife, he would've told me I was a "funny lookin' bastard", he probably would've liked me, given time - and any guy who would help get back money from Sam Meranto's by going over there with my brother-in-law and threatening to rip the bumper off of his car - yes, they had the ole'Chevy revving up, tied to the bumper with trucker chain - can't be that bad of a guy - and yes, they got the money back!).

Back to the point - ahem...

She pronounces "shrimp" as "skrimp" as well - along with a whole host of other words. For instance, it isn't "electrocution", it's "alexicution", nor is it "anal sex" - it's "annual sex" (this last one is something my wife tells me she said late one night over coffee and cigarettes, sitting around the table which she had used for so many years, sitting in the same spot smoking and drinking black coffee, that there were actual grooves eroded in the table for her elbows - I shiat you not).

Damn - sometimes I think I married into the wrong family - but there is a lot of entertainment to be had by the hijinks that follow, let me tell you...
 
2008-06-09 04:10:27 PM
Meh, fark it. Naming my kids Sonja and Kenan, provided those reflect the number and gender of children I have.

/don't what the fark I'll do if I have multiples or more than two chillens
//yipes
 
hnb
2008-06-09 04:33:13 PM
As someone who was a skinny, orange-haired juvenile delinquent named Herbie, I find this thread amusing.
 
2008-06-09 04:47:23 PM
rga184: Did a well child check on a kid named Druid once.

Night Elf or Tauren?

mtylerjr: Think of the sad children who try and find their name on the pre-made "so and so's room" signs and can't :(

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2008-06-09 04:51:36 PM
Lunch Box Hero: "This is my wife Nocturia, and our kids Pellagra, Lupus, Adenoma, Amblyopia, Brucellosis (we call him Bruce), Halitosis (Hal), Cholera, Dyspepsia, Malaria, and Impetigo."

And then when Cholera is at school they're going to go:

"wait, I remember you...you had a weird name"

"not that weird"

"yeah, wait, you have like some kind of disease name, right?"

"something like, lu...lu...lupus?"

"IT'S NOT LUPUS!"

/long setup for a crappy joke, I know
//melanoma, trichimoniasis, amebiasis, colitis, hepatitis, pneumonitis, prostatitis, ectopic, carcinoma, hemangioma, lymphangioma, lymphedema, mixedema, thyrotoxicosis, gynecomastia, and my favorite, cervical motion tenderness (OK, not a disease, but would be a funny name nonetheless).
 
2008-06-09 11:46:56 PM
Did I ever tell you that Mrs. McCave
Had twenty-three sons, and she named them all Dave?

Well, she did. And that wasn't a smart thing to do.
You see, when she wants one, and calls out "Yoo-Hoo!
Come into the house, Dave!" she doesn't get one.
All twenty-three Daves of hers come on the run!

This makes things quite difficult at the McCaves'
As you can imagine, with so many Daves.
And often she wishes that, when they were born,
She had named one of them Bodkin Van Horn.
And one of them Hoos-Foos. And one of them Snimm.
And one of them Hot-Shot. And one Sunny Jim.
And one of them Shadrack. And one of them Blinkey.
And one of them Stuffy. And one of them Stinkey.
Another one Putt-Putt. Another one Moon Face.
Another one Marvin O'Gravel Balloon Face.
And one of them Ziggy. And one Soggy Muff.
One Buffalo Bill. And one Biffalo Buff.
And one of them Sneepy. And one Weepy Weed.
And one Paris Garters. And one Harris Tweed.
And one of them Sir Michael Carmichael Zutt.
And one of them Oliver Boliver Butt.
And one of them Zanzibar Buck-Buck McFate . . . .
But she didn't do it. And now it's too late.
 
2008-06-09 11:54:47 PM
//previous post was Dr. Seuss, just in case that's not obvious


Is Evelyn okay for a girl's name? I've always liked it because it comes with nicknames (Eve, Evey, Lyn) unlike my name. Is it too old lady like? I also like Lillian as a compromise with my bf who wants to name a girl Iris. All the Irises I know are whores and goths.
 
2008-06-10 12:07:34 AM
UpsideDown: //previous post was Dr. Seuss, just in case that's not obvious


Is Evelyn okay for a girl's name? I've always liked it because it comes with nicknames (Eve, Evey, Lyn) unlike my name. Is it too old lady like? I also like Lillian as a compromise with my bf who wants to name a girl Iris. All the Irises I know are whores and goths.


We went with Zoe (Zo, Zozo, Z). It's ancient (Byzantine empresses), means "life" or "lively". and easy to spell.

Evelyn sounds cool on paper, but odds are the nickname would crowd it out as far as spoken conversation goes.
 
2008-06-10 12:12:18 AM
OttoDog:
We went with Zoe (Zo, Zozo, Z). It's ancient (Byzantine empresses), means "life" or "lively". and easy to spell.

Evelyn sounds cool on paper, but odds are the nickname would crowd it out as far as spoken conversation goes.


Zoe is a beautiful name, my friends decided on Zoe when they realized their first choice, Emma, would mean the child's name would be Emma Byrd (I'm a bird). I think their daughter will thank them some day.
I don't think I'd mind calling a nickname like Evey, as long as they were nice nicknames and not torturous ones. I can't think of any but I'm sure some 2nd grader could.
 
2008-06-10 03:19:58 AM
Nope, it isn't that - I personally think it is willful stupidity, coupled with ignorance, a lack of education, and an unwillingness to correct oneself.

I'd say it's a really nonstandard AAVE (Black English, ebonics) form. Most of the time the consonant cluster would get reduced to /srImp/ or something, but something happens (something I'm sure I could explain with fancy linguistics words if I remembered... I think it happens any time two continuants are next to each other) and they throw in an obstruent to break up that awkward cluster. I've usually heard it as /strImp/, but I just looked it up and apparently sometimes in very nonstandard, stigmatized AAVE the /str/ cluster can turn into /skr/.

"Skrimp" might sound funny, and I realize that this flies in the face of everything you know from elementary school English class (I hated the idea at first too), but it really doesn't make a difference how the word is pronounced. It still means the same thing. AAVE is just like any other English dialect, it's just how black people talk. It's how they've talked for hundreds of years. It's not okay to make fun of black people any more, but we can mock their speech patterns. What is that about?
 
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