rhcmom: Kids are vaccinated too often and too early. This compounds the allergy problem, I'm willing to bet.

i'm pretty skeptical about the whole childhood-vaccines-causing-serious-medical-problems thing. From what I gather they're pretty specific and, as mentioned before, they've been doing it for a while.

"When I was a kid, I didn't know anybody that had any food allergies," said Adkins. "We're doing something to our babies that are causing them to develop these allergies."

THIS.

This would be a good research project for all you ditto-heads out there who eat up all of Rush's crap that there is no causality between human activity and environmental problems.

/Yeah right, I forgot, there is no research in the Rush world
//"Rush Is Right" is the universal answer for all problems!

SoothinglyDeranged: Damn it, just let the wussy little allergic farks die and save us all a lot of damn trouble. If you can be killed by sniffing a peanut you farking well deserve death.

I don't know if you were trolling or what, but I sort of agree with you. Genetics like those should definetly not be passed on in the gene pool. How hasnt the kid been Darwined yet?

I just want to say that I'm proud of the Fark community's insightful, topical, and compassionate discussion of this matter.

LOL, J/K, EXCELENT TROLL THREAD!! XD

I'm severely allergic to bananas, peaches and all related pitted fruits (nectarines, cherries, etc), almonds, walnuts, apples (skin only, the inside seems OK) and pears (skins only as well). I also have bananas, apples, pears, almonds, peaches, etc in my house. I just minimize my contact with them to prevent issues.

That said, I almost believe this kid's mom about her going into shock because someone across the table is eating a Resees Cup. I do think that's partially a helicopter parent fearmongering for their precious snowflake angel baby. However, I've seen a kid at my mom's preschool that got a little wobbly after sitting at a table to eat snack at the same seat another kid had eaten a peanut butter cookie at 5 minutes earlier. That was contact based though, I'm just not sure there's enough stuff getting airborne when you eat a handful of Resses Pieces to cause a reaction.

I do agree with the folks saying that these kids should be given special consideration in the form of a separate lunch period at tables that have been specially cleaned, NOT by banning common food items from the rest of the school population. That's a sledgehammer solution to a screwdriver kind of problem.

/Not allergic to Poison Ivy, though
//I can chew on that stuff, seriously. I've done it.

You know, if my kid could die from smelling someone else's peanut butter candy, I wouldn't take the chance on sending her to public school. Wouldn't be worth the risk to me to be sure everyone followed the rules the mom seems to be insisting be enacted.

I would just like to add that from early child hood I suffered severe allergies. I was tested for 100 items and was allergic to 80. I had to eat a highly specific diet but I never had a problem with some one else eating an artificially dyed and colored piece of candy in the lunch room next to me. (Could eat nuts, eggs, soy, and milk, I was allergic to artificial coloring and flavorings. The doctors said so, not my mom.)

Thankfully allergy shot exist. Between the shots and children's ability to outgrow allergies I can eat what ever the hell I want now.

Also my mother is allergic to rabbits but allowed me to have pet bunnies. She just couldn't take care of them for me so I HAD to take the responsibility.

If she's that sensitive, why doesn't her mom home school her? I have a pretty severe food allergy to a common food, but I didn't pitch a fit until the school banned it.

lady_nocturne: b>mmagdalene: Also, I teach in a poor Title I school - and there is not a single kid labeled as having a peanut allergy through at least grade 3 (all I can personally attest to). However, friends who work in wealthier schools report that generally 1/4 to 1/3 of their students have some potentially life-threatening food allergy (according to their parents).

Make of that anecdotal evidence what you will.

None of our town's schools (4 elementary schools, 1 jr high, 1 high school) ban nut products. All six schools are Title 1 schools.

Go figure.

/must be them hardy immigrant genes

What is a title 1 school?

In the same train of thought, I live in rural Ontario, in a small town that's pretty low income. My mother is a teacher at the primary school here. This was the first year they had a student with peanut allergies and he had moved here from a private Toronto school.

"Having peanuts in my face is like having a loaded gun held to your head," said Danielle

Really? Really? A loaded gun? You should talk to some veterans suffering PTSD and compare/contrast the experiences. Somehow, I think the results will surprise you Snowflake.

Bitter Barn: Like a lot of people here, I went to school with a couple of kids with severe allergies to peanuts. I never heard about any "airborn" peanut allergy (I'm not being snide; I really never heard of this)- these kids sat with us at lunch and never minded anyone eating peanut butter. In fact,our favorite school provided lunch was PB&J and our favorite desert was a peanut butter cookie. How, in one generation, do all these kids pop up with such severe allergies that they can't even interact with anyone eating peanuts? I'm sure it's possible, but you have to admit it's kind of extreme.
- and please, no stories about your niece who goes into a coma if she sees a picture of a peanut. We get the idea already.

I think Darwin is getting pissed. Dying because someone nearby ate peanuts, that does seem kind of far fetched? There comes a point where it becomes impossible to protect someone. Seriously, peanuts are used in a lot of stuff, not just food. If she actually is so allergic to peanuts that airborne peanut smell can kill her, what happens when she comes across peanut containing medications or cosmetics?

BolognaSandwich: Even if it is the parents' fault. The poor kids did nothing wrong. So let's have a bit of sympathy for them.

That being said, there needs to be some more research done on this upswing in allergies-if indeed it is one.

There has been it is we are too bloody scared of everything. We are told not to introduce foods too early, not to give teething rusks because of wheat but guess what the countries that do introduce foods early, having teething rusks i.e like those in Israel with peanut products have lower cases of allergies. Also if you breastfeed beyond 6 months there has been links to increased likelyhood of getting allergies.
As someone else said stop worrying so much.

It seems to me that parents have two choices: homeschool or separation. They want this to be seen as a disability things, but it is different. Being paralyzed and in a wheelchair doesn't prevent others from leading a "normal" life, by adding a few ramps and such those with disabilities can be integrated.

This is more akin to those with mental problems whose presence disrupts the normal learning environment. They need a separate classroom.

As above, I feel badly about this, but at some point these kids are going to have to learn about protecting themselves. If they are not mature enough to do this, they need to be kept separate until they are. Partly this is for their own protection. Many of those foods are contained in things that might not be readily obvious. Unless they are going to monitor everyone's lunchbox, the kids need to be kept separate. If a separate table is not sufficient then they need to be removed from the environment.

Nepherym: Hmm... I wonder where little "precious"

Begoggle: 3felines: Wouldn't it be cheaper to have one school per district where all the allergy kids can go?

Yes, and that one school would, on average, consist of less than 1 student.

If you're taking one classroom into account, maybe. At my kid's school, I think there are six kindergarten classrooms, and I think three or four of them have "no peanut" rules for snacks because of active peanut allergies, and it covers two allergic kids in her class. So. That's one grade level out of four (Montessori), and if the older kids have the same rate, it'd indicate roughly 16 kids from our one school. I live in a mid/larger city, so we could easily fill one or two grade schools/junior highs, so kids could even choose between which end of town they'd end up at.

Even in smaller towns/burbs, if the sample is normal, you'd still have a viable school going on, with like 50-65 kids attending.

anonimo: "Having peanuts held up to my face is like having a gun held to my head"

No, it is not. Anyone can have gun held to their head. You, on the other hand, are broken and a naturally occurring foodstuff can kill you. Why do we have to play God and help these broken humans live?

...Not to mention that the mere act of holding a gun to your head won't kill you, whereas holding a peanut to your head will... I feel bad for kids with these problems, Darwin or no. Oh, and to answer the question, I will utter the dreaded phrase: "Nanny state" :)

/I don't have kids
/still think that if children in the care of our government brain farts farms, they had better be protected (Somebody PLEASE think of the CHILDREN!).
/Otherwise, give the parents a tax break to help cover the cost of home schooling.
/humble opinion, subject to change

Wow, fun reactions in here going both directions.

When I was still in school I had to deal with friends and family being allergic to my favorite foods and pets I've had. Peanut products, CORN (Which is in almost everything these days and actually caused my friend's tongue to swell if he ingested it), certain types of dairy products, cats, dogs and certain aspects of what reptiles can leave on your skin/clothes... Then my mother is allergic to strawberries and shellfish and one of my girlfriends I dated more than once and am still friends with is allergic to raspberries. I also have a cousin allergic to pesticides. Organic food only for them. Even the slightest bit causes hives and swelling, and that's if they don't swallow. I myself am allergic to penicillin. Nothing else in the world effects me personally, not even rash inducing plants like poison ivy and oak effect me, something that gets proven every time I encounter the plant or a rash covered person that encountered in some way. Almost all allergies normal and exotic are represented by the list of allergies I've had to watch out for with friends and family.

My favorite foods are shellfish, strawberries, peanuts, corn chips and raspberries.

Despite all that we've never had to live without anything because we all learned how to be careful around the people with the problems, to notice if something wasn't quite right and get help if we or someone else needed it. In a few cases no matter how careful we were sometimes one of my friends had a reaction. Here's the kicker, some of my friends eventually found out they weren't allergic anymore. There's only one way to figure that one out.

One of my friends used to avoid seafood because he'd been put in the hospital a few times, now he goes out at least once a month to eat it. Took us four months for him to realize it when we were pointing out he was eating foods that used certain types of oils in them. Another was allergic to peanuts, now she enjoys Reese's candies like it's a food group.

Some of those comments in that article did tick me off. I'm a veteran that never saw combat time as an aircraft maintainer, but I did manage to get shot at and stabbed once as a kid, without picking the fights, and got to deal with explosives and even a car bomb once while living in American hostile areas of Europe in the early eighties. Equating an allergy to the experience isn't right. Yeah, it might be life threatening, but a gunshot to the head is a lot more fatal and less treatable than licking a nut. Dead is dead, but there's at least the chance for treatment with an allergy.

*BANG* done
*lick* Uh oh, where's my meds? Someone call 911!

And I say that having also done search and rescue with triage and survival training and serving on a special team for the new england area as a result of all that training.

I think we need to keep an eye out for the problems, but parents need to learn to relax before you scare your kids into the nuthouse. You can't control every aspect of a child's life. The minute they step out of your home they're at the mercy of the world outside. All you can truly do in the end is teach yourself and your children how to react to a problem. It's ultimately up to your child to safeguard themselves. Even in a place where something is banned, there's chance someone will sneak it in to be a bad boy/girl. That's especially true in schools.

And I also agree with the breastfeeding comment some folks make. Sometimes a kid can't because the mother has an illness related to the breasts. My mother had some sort of infection move in after having my baby brother. The vast majority of kids that aren't breastfed though don't get mother's milk because the parents simply don't want to do it for some reason, like a doctor pushes some new formula on them stating that it has vitamins the baby needs, instead of saying the kid can have breast milk AND the formula. Then they whine about the fact they're kids aren't as willful or strong against the environment as their friends. Small wonder listening to horror stories about death and pain on top of whatever problem there is.

There's more to my take on this arguing FOR the defensive parents, but they kind of pale in comparison to what I think of those overprotective parents. The whining and simpering they put out kind of drowns out my agreements with them until I wanna smack them and say "SHUT UP! I AGREE! You just need to teach your kids to be careful though, not afraid."

Fear makes people panic, and panic is bad for almost any kind of bad reaction, allergy or not. Anyone with even the slightest bit of medical knowledge can tell you that one. The only reason one of my friends is still alive today is that we kept him calm during a reaction, which kept his heart rate close to normal, until the paramedics got on the scene. Rush hour is not the best time to have a reaction.

Oh, and as much as I harp on about Darwinistic methodology in cleansing the gene pool, I only consider some allergies to truly be a weakness. Have at least a little sympathy guys, your (future) kids might have some obscure allergy that relates to almost everything in the environment(corn). I'm sure you'd love to see your little snowflake bite the big one. I say that being aware that some of the comments really are just meant to poke fun and aren't the true opinion. heh

dionada: Y'ever notice that the kids with the don't-give-a-rip Billy Bob and Bubba Jane parents, are never the ones with the serious allergies? It's always Suzie Soccermom and Polly PTA who have the kids who can't be in the same room as a legume for fear of a horrible grisly death.

Hm. I wonder if this is causal based on income, or causal based on lack of insurance/health care/access to allergy specialists.

I'm picturing you taping peanuts to the underside of every chair and table in the cafeteria, cackling with glee.

I'm training an army of evil monkeys for that very purpose... but perhaps I've said too much...

Here is an idea for you. you know that salty powder shiat in the bottom of a jar of peanuts? Put that shiat in the AC duct and let the fun begin.

so no peanut butter on her doorhandle trick then? damn. how about cheese whiz in her shoes? if she is in a dorm, she is going to get pranked byt alot of drunk people.

Typhoid: At this point, my best guess is that there is either a voluntary immunization that the poorer kids don't get, or the richer kids are coddled to the point that they never develop a good immune system. The poor kids are the ones that go play outside in the dirt, the richer kids are playing inside in recirculated air, Mr. Clean'ed floor, organic veggies and antibacterial soap.

Maybe lead paint or industrial metals in the air helps temper peanut allergies. 'Scuse me, I need to google something.

Kevin72: MOOPS

"Researchers can't say why food allergies have increased, but one theory is that society has become too hygienic, which deprives children's immune systems from building up their defenses, Burks said."
-FTFA

The kids are gettin' sick because the parents don't want to have them confused for damned, dirty hippies. If we end the hippie scourge, then regular bathing won't be so important, and kids with get exposed to normal crap in their environment and develope an immune system.

/We saw in the East River.
//We were tempered in liquid shiat!

Your child can't be within 100ft of peanuts. Your child has ADHD. Your child is dyslectic. Your child is poor. so your child has special needs. Deal with your child and leave my child out of your drama.

okami36: "Researchers can't say why food allergies have increased, but one theory is that society has become too hygienic, which deprives children's immune systems from building up their defenses, Burks said."
-FTFA

The kids are gettin' sick because the parents don't want to have them confused for damned, dirty hippies. If we end the hippie scourge, then regular bathing won't be so important, and kids with get exposed to normal crap in their environment and develope an immune system.

/We saw in the East River.
//We were tempered in liquid shiat!

As I understand it, the leading theory is that in the past, these failure-babies would have died before leaving the hospital, or SIDS/Crib death shortly after.

It is only with the high level of modern medical technology that we have been able to kick Darwin in the teeth this hard.

Take that! Mr.Peanut.

BlippityBleep
I just wonder how much of her allergies are due to psychosomatic reasons. I can just see her mother freaking out all the time about it till the kid was as farked up as a football bat. Instead of suffering from an initial slight tingly feeling for an allergy it blew up into all of this crap.

I have at least two sets of perfectly normal friends who do everything every know-it-all here has said: breastfeed, kids play outside, etc.

Both couples have kids who started reacting to various foods at 2-3 years old and they had no idea what was going on. In one case, the 3-year kid's throat swelled and he was passing out from lack of oxygen. Only later did they figure it out.

So maybe you can get the hell off your high horse.

If you think that parents and kids with this problem should just deal with it, OK. But don't add your goddam mockery to what is a pretty tough thing to deal with already.

What kind of parent continues to send their child to a place where she could go into shock every day?

If your kid is medically unable to mingle with other kids because her allergies to what's in their lunchboxes are too severe, it's time to consider home-schooling or getting the district to send a home tutor to your house.

Instead, these jerk*ffs want to make sure that nobody elses' kids get to eat their favorite foods because their kid is too sick to be around the ingredients. Obviously, these parents are not doing such a great job of parenting. Again, I ask, what kind of parent demands the right to send their child into danger every day, just because they don't want to take the trouble to make safer arrangements to accomodate their child's severe medical disabilities?

You're guaranteed a free public education, but that doesn't mean that you're guaranteed said education in a communal setting with normal (non-sickly) kids. Every school district in the country has the resources to send a teacher/tutor to your house if your kid is medically unable to attend for fear of going into shock or a seizure at any given moment.

I've got news for these selfish parents: your child will one day grow up, and they'll be in for a lot of unpleasant surprises if they expect the rest of the world to change in order to accomodate their allergies.

Teachers are there to teach, not to act as paramedics for your little snowflake, and not to act as dietary cops. This mother clearly feels zero responsibility for the health and safety of her own child.


Parents like this really have a distorted sense of entitlement.

Wow, what I already knew is confirmed.
There are soooo many uniformed nasty entitled idiots on this thread it boggles the mind.

YOUR KID'S "FAVORITE FOOD ITEM IS NOT A GODDAMNED CIVIL RIGHT. GOT THAT?!
MY KID'S HAVING A SAFE LEARNING ENVIRONMENT IS.

YOUR KID HAS A CHOICE ABOUT WHAT THEY CAN EAT. THEY CAN SIT--> OVER THERE AND EAT IT, THEN WASH THEIR FREAKING GOOEY HANDS AFTERWARD.
MY KID SHOULD NOT HAVE TO EAT ALONE BECAUSE OF YOUR SPOILED ENTITLED BRATS CHOICE OF FOOD!


What people don't understand about peanut allergy is that peanuts are GREASY and get onto surfaces. It is not just about telling your kid not to eat those things.

Bill_Wick's_Friend 2008-06-08 04:17:38 PM
When this girl reaches adulthood, how is she expecting to be able to go grocery shopping? My grocery stores are filled with peanut products, raw peanuts, bulk peanuts and products which contain peanuts including baked goods and processed foods which are made with peanut oils.

....or is her mom going to lobby the local Safeway store to remove all peanut products so that grocery shopping is a safe experience for her daughter?

Of course that is a risk, but no other place is so guaranteed to be loaded w/nut/peanut oil/grease than a school. I wouldn't send my kid to a peanut factory, yet due to circumstances, have to send her to the equivalent.

This is not the same as say most other allergies where the items are not greasy and INGESTION is required.
I get the sense that so many are uniformed in that they think it's like a choice whether to eat these things or not, when it is often a contact allergy as well.

And these days it is rare for a decent sized school to just have one serious peanut allergy.

Anyway I digress, I'm so fed up w/the callousness of the administration of schools & the idiot teachers and parents who act like public schools are their own personal living rooms/latrines we are in the process of lawyering up. You wouldn't believe the horseshiat they've put our girl through.

Hey, after everything we've witnessed in ineptitude and apathy in our area I'd welcome to have GQ public pay for a private tutor!

FOAD to the ignorant morons on this thread, your idiocy and stubborn entitlement is soon going to cost a school district near you.

The rest who aren't know who you are and we BTDT, watch out for your kids because schools aren't going to get off their asses and wake up until their feet are on the fire and it starts coming out of their fund$$$$$$$$. Be careful there are a lot who give lip service but are asleep at the wheel when it comes to your child's safety.


/breastfed

//am glad at least one person on this thread made the soy/peanut allergy connection

JWideman: I wonder how much of it is actually psychosomatic. I mean, someone 20 feet away eating peanut butter gives you a reaction?
I grew up with a milk sensitivity that my kids inherited. Like me, they grew out of it after a few years. But, unlike them, I also had a mother who told me I was allergic to a lot of other things. All of which turned out to be lies.

Me too. I was "allergic" to corn syrup, chocolate, cheese. Why did they do this anyway???

Babaloo: Wow, what I already knew is confirmed.
There are soooo many uniformed nasty entitled idiots on this thread it boggles the mind.

YOUR KID'S "FAVORITE FOOD ITEM IS NOT A GODDAMNED CIVIL RIGHT. GOT THAT?!
MY KID'S HAVING A SAFE LEARNING ENVIRONMENT IS.

Agreed. Why don't you find them one, such as home schooling with a tutor?


YOUR KID HAS A CHOICE ABOUT WHAT THEY CAN EAT. THEY CAN SIT--> OVER THERE AND EAT IT, THEN WASH THEIR FREAKING GOOEY HANDS AFTERWARD.
MY KID SHOULD NOT HAVE TO EAT ALONE BECAUSE OF YOUR SPOILED ENTITLED BRATS CHOICE OF FOOD!

So you are saying that it is better for the entire school to bow to the unreasonable needs of a vast minority of defective students when the very reasonable accommodation of segregated lunch rooms and/or tutoring is available? The right to a safe education does not equate to the right to the same communal education as everyone else, and this has been shown repeatedly.

You are saying that the alternative lunches many schools provide is no longer an option and the schools must jack up lunch prices to accommodate a small minority of people?

I am unsure how you can hate your own child so much as to send them into what you describe as equivalent to a peanut factory, when it comes to danger. Even accounting for the hyperbole, you must not care for your child much if you are unwilling to take reasonable steps to keep them safe. Instead you demand that the world takes steps to make them safe, so you can send them into an unsafe environment -- with everyone resenting them.

You want to drive the prices of school lunches up, take away many favorite foods and restrict the rights of others dietary choices why? Because your little snowflake cannot be responsible to wipe down a table prior to eating, and is too precious to take their friends and eat in a special area, that is specially cleaned and protected.

The reason people with allergies are getting ridiculed in this thread is people with attitudes like yours: unwillingness to compromise and demanding an obscene level of special treatment and accommodation by hundreds, if not thousands of others. People tend to get annoyed by this attitude.

Recently a national radio talk show host talked about the lady who is sueing the airline for serving peanuts. They must have had a great call screener, as just about all the parents and allergy sufferers calling in stated that a simple painters mask, some wet-wipes, and an epi-pen or two allow their children or themselves to lead a normal life and that these mass bannings seemed unreasonable, even to them. Some of them even resented the activists, as it was putting a negative connotation to the allergies, and the extremists and fanatics made them all look like crazies.

Even the allergist that called in to discuss the issue stated that he has never seen, nor seen medical proof of allergies so bad as to require a sterile zone around a plane or school. He seemed to think a simple painters mask on the plane would be fine even if their was a substantial amount of dust in the ventilation system of a plane.

I don't know where you get your sense of entitlement, but you might want to return it, as all it is doing, along with your vocal outrage is making people indiferent to your point of view, at best, and making actual ideological enemies at worst.

As many people stated in the airplane/peanut thread, they are much MUCH more willing to accommodate reasonable requests, and much much more likely to violate unreasonable ones -- even if the difference is simply how you ask. Request I not eat my peanut products, and I won't. Demand it and I will actively find more to eat.

Babaloo: Wow, what I already knew is confirmed.
There are soooo many uniformed nasty entitled idiots on this thread it boggles the mind.

YOUR KID'S "FAVORITE FOOD ITEM IS NOT A GODDAMNED CIVIL RIGHT. GOT THAT?!
MY KID'S HAVING A SAFE LEARNING ENVIRONMENT IS.

YOUR KID HAS A CHOICE ABOUT WHAT THEY CAN EAT. THEY CAN SIT--> OVER THERE AND EAT IT, THEN WASH THEIR FREAKING GOOEY HANDS AFTERWARD.
MY KID SHOULD NOT HAVE TO EAT ALONE BECAUSE OF YOUR SPOILED ENTITLED BRATS CHOICE OF FOOD!


What people don't understand about peanut allergy is that peanuts are GREASY and get onto surfaces. It is not just about telling your kid not to eat those things.

Bill_Wick's_Friend 2008-06-08 04:17:38 PM
When this girl reaches adulthood, how is she expecting to be able to go grocery shopping? My grocery stores are filled with peanut products, raw peanuts, bulk peanuts and products which contain peanuts including baked goods and processed foods which are made with peanut oils.

....or is her mom going to lobby the local Safeway store to remove all peanut products so that grocery shopping is a safe experience for her daughter?

Of course that is a risk, but no other place is so guaranteed to be loaded w/nut/peanut oil/grease than a school. I wouldn't send my kid to a peanut factory, yet due to circumstances, have to send her to the equivalent.

This is not the same as say most other allergies where the items are not greasy and INGESTION is required.
I get the sense that so many are uniformed in that they think it's like a choice whether to eat these things or not, when it is often a contact allergy as well.

And these days it is rare for a decent sized school to just have one serious peanut allergy.

Anyway I digress, I'm so fed up w/the callousness of the administration of schools & the idiot teachers and parents who act like public schools are their own personal living rooms/latrines we are in the process of lawyering up. You wouldn't believe the horseshiat they've put our girl through.

Hey, after everything we've witnessed in ineptitude and apathy in our area I'd welcome to have GQ public pay for a private tutor!

FOAD to the ignorant morons on this thread, your idiocy and stubborn entitlement is soon going to cost a school district near you.

The rest who aren't know who you are and we BTDT, watch out for your kids because schools aren't going to get off their asses and wake up until their feet are on the fire and it starts coming out of their fund$$$$$$$$. Be careful there are a lot who give lip service but are asleep at the wheel when it comes to your child's safety.


/breastfed

//am glad at least one person on this thread made the soy/peanut allergy connection



Your kid belongs in a special needs school side by side with the other retards. Public schools are for normal people. Normal is what you, by attitude, and your kid, by physical defiency, are not.

Soy is now in just about everything. So there may be something to the soy/peanut thing, as stated earlier in this thread. Heck, soy is in any peanur burr that is not natural. That having been said. As I got into my late 40's I started noticing that when I ate any soy or peanut products, my heart rate would increase. I made the decision to avoid them at all costs, and added wheat gluten and MSG in for good measure. My blood pressure is down, and I feel better. I know that I am not seriously allergic, but I am sure given enough time that could well occur. I think the paramount reason is the overuse of soy. I was not born with these allergies. By the way, there is a reason you get a headache after eating in a Chinese restaurant. It's the MSG killing brain cells. Check it out. It is true.

anonimo: "Having peanuts held up to my face is like having a gun held to my head"

No, it is not. Anyone can have gun held to their head. You, on the other hand, are broken and a naturally occurring foodstuff can kill you. Why do we have to play God and help these broken humans live?

Exactly. Also, if this is a genetic defect, they shouldn't be allowed to breed either. Survival of the fittest, natural selection, Darwin anyone?

Had allergies of all sorts for most of my life. As a child and an adult I had hayfever and at certain times of the year I would get terribly sick from it. I dealt with it by taking meds for any symptoms.

I became a dental assistant, and years later developed a severe allergy to latex. I took long distance college courses while winding down my assisting career and became a medical transcriptionist so that I could work out of my home.

At the same time I started allergy shots. Took them for 10 years. It cost alot of out of pocket $$ and also alot of time.

Worth every single penny. It has been almost 10 years now since I had the allergy shots, and I have no allergic symptoms whatsoever.

I can even handle being around latex, and having people use latex gloves while working on me.

Before getting out of dentistry and the going through allergy shots, I would use an asthma inhaler at least 3-4 times a day and a couple of times had to use my epipen for bad allergic reactions.

Bottom line - it was my problem, not anyone elses. And I dealt with it and have recovered from it.

/Allergy shots for the win!

Cake Hunter: letting toddlers loose to see who dies and who is worthy of carrying on the genes.

I think I just found the new halftime show during the upcoming Superbowl.

Nocens: Babaloo:

Of course that is a risk, but no other place is so guaranteed to be loaded w/nut/peanut oil/grease than a school. I wouldn't send my kid to a peanut factory, yet due to circumstances, have to send her to the equivalent.

This is not the same as say most other allergies where the items are not greasy and INGESTION is required.
I get the sense that so many are uniformed in that they think it's like a choice whether to eat these things or not, when it is often a contact allergy as well.


So, again, why is it that you want to send your child to a toxic environment? Have you actually petitioned the school and/or school board to send a teacher to your home? They will happily do so if your child has a compelling and/or life-threatening illness which prevents them from attending school like a normal kid. I hate to be the one to point this out to you, but your child is NOT normal. Your child is so abnormal that being in a regular school setting is potentially life-threatening to her. Again, I ask: what kind of parent demands to send their kid off to a place where normal involvement with other kids can end their kid's life? Faulty parenting. If the mother smeared peanut butter on her allergic kid's lips, we'd call it Munchauser's Syndrome by Proxy. Instead, she sends her kid to school to let her come into constant contact with peanut butter and peanut-oil-based ingredients from other kids. Someone needs to have this mother evaluated by CPS. She's determined to send her kid to a toxic environment, and hoping to win some cash from the school system, to boot.

Watch out for me.

I just have to shake my head to some of you ill-informed people on this thread who know next to NOTHING about food allergies but still chime in on all these idiotic "cures". ha, ha, ha

"Pack them a lunch"...OMG...why didn't their parents think of that!

Do some research before you post.

//niece is deathly allergic to just about all foods

doober3: I just have to shake my head to some of you ill-informed people on this thread who know next to NOTHING about food allergies but still chime in on all these idiotic "cures". ha, ha, ha

"Pack them a lunch"...OMG...why didn't their parents think of that!

Do some research before you post.

//niece is deathly allergic to just about all foods


The cure is to keep your child out of an environment which is toxic and potentially fatal to them. It's called "common sense" and "good parenting."

By the way, research would show you that every school district in every county in every state in America will send a teacher to the home or hospital if a child has a longterm medical disability which interferes with the child's ability to attend school with other children. The guarantee of a free education doesn't mean it has to be done in a school setting.

Okay, I'm late coming to the game but I'm going in, Coach.

So, if someone had a dangerous and communicable disease (TB, Typhoid, whatever), there wouldn't be much hesitation to quarantine them. We wouldn't have Typhoid Mary walk down the street and just tell people to adapt and stay indoors, would we? This is the individual being a danger to their environment (populace).

Why would it be so different if the situation is reversed? If the environment is dangerous to a very small minority, why should it be forced to change? Shouldn't some aspect of quarantine still come into play? Shouldn't the endangered individual be the one to take steps to protect themself, beit a mask, gloves, distance or what have you?

This is getting so ridiculous. If I ever have children that are that deathly ill that they cannot be around a normal food product, they will be homeschooled. Peanut products are EVERYWHERE, and they are going to have to live in a world where these products are present anyway. They are going to be around in college, in the workplace, in a restaraunt, supermarket, the mall... etc etc etc. It's just not realistic to remove them. I used to babysit a kid who was allergic to peanuts... I don't think he was nearly as sick as this kid because he could be in the same room with them, but it's amazing at how young an age kids can learn to find out what's in food and if it's safe for them, if their parents teach them! He knew even before he could read to show something to an adult and ask them to check the ingrediants for nuts!