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(Sun Sentinel)   "You are all in contempt of court. Can you hear me now?   (sun-sentinel.com ) divider line
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2008-06-08 12:03:22 PM  
Just say no to cell phones!

Just like the moron last week end texting during a movie, those screens are bright in the dark!
 
2008-06-08 12:07:32 PM  
Mentat Sloooowly ...
davynelson I'm with Judgey-wudgey.

Stooges version (Not a rickroll, promise)

/big Curley fan
 
2008-06-08 12:13:31 PM  
Cormophyte: It calls punishing innocent people "inexcusable."

So punishing innocent people in the name of getting the people responsible for cell phones is unacceptable, but punishing every single person who drinks almost any amount of alcohol (cause it don't take that much to hit .08, folks) and then enters their car for any purpose is?

/being nitpicky
//the law is nitpicky
///pegs people in front of him at theaters who are responsible for more than one unnecessary noise
////is deadly with malt balls


Full of Fail.
 
2008-06-08 12:17:04 PM  
Probably used to be a 4th grade teacher, or POTUS
 
2008-06-08 12:22:30 PM  
Alt_Login: He did what he had to do... The courtPublic places isare no place for a cell phone

FTFY.

/Cell phone hater
 
2008-06-08 12:39:24 PM  
AT our daughter's 8th grade graduation Mass, some fool's cell phone rang during the homily.

The padre never missed a beat, just looked in the direction of the offending ring and said, "Hey, tell 'em Father John says hello, OK?" and kept going.

THAT's class.

Jailing 46 people, not so much.
 
2008-06-08 12:40:11 PM  
CasperImproved: Alt_Login: He did what he had to do... The court is no place for a cell phone and the obvious cover-up of the perp in this case made everyone complicit in this most heinous crime! Jail 'em!

I agree. If the four or five people around the perp could not turn him in, then they were either family, or chose to not comply with the judge's order to oust the perp, and because of that, all deserved to sit in jail for a few hours.


Well it would seem that the state Commission on Judicial Conduct as well as the New York State Court of Appeals disagrees with you learned individuals. It is my sincere hope that BOTH of you get caught up in one of these police state style arrests, that should adjust your attitude. I would guess that many, if not most judges consider themselves above the law in situations like this and it will happen again. The concept is simple, lock up innocent people and you lose your job....That's all.

/You want power? Live with the responsibility!
 
2008-06-08 12:43:04 PM  
Okie Cynic: many people with no prior history of assholiness become assholes when they put on judicial robes.

many people with no prior history of assholiness become assholes when they acquire cellular phones.


I say we pit 'em all against each other in rush hour traffic -- that'll separate the real assholes from the posers.

/won't talk loudly even on business calls at the office for fear of offending
//will gladly shout "Hey! Asshole! Drive it or park it, fa Christ's sake!" in traffic
 
2008-06-08 01:02:10 PM  
Nothing wrong with what he did. He should have stuck to his guns.
 
2008-06-08 01:11:07 PM  
So, let me get this straight, someone else's phone rings, and I am arrested?

Hello, MASSIVE LAWSUIT TIME?
 
2008-06-08 01:13:50 PM  
Been working on a bumper sticker that has "HANG UP AND DRIVE" on it, and it comes in pairs, but one is written in a mirror image...

Judge is deservedly no longer a Judge.

/It isnt 6th grade
 
2008-06-08 01:34:06 PM  
Wow. Lot of bootlickers in here. I'm surprised!

I didn't realize judges could be removed this way. I'm kinda happy about that.
 
2008-06-08 01:36:27 PM  
I'm sorry, but court is one of the places where you HAVE to shut your farking phone OFF. I'm sure it happened every day in this guy's courtroom and he just got sick of it. Can you imagine trying to concentrate or talk to parties and some a-hole's phone keeps going off? CoC is pretty steep, but if I were a judge I would have taken the time to give a speech about decorum in a court of law and make the guy or girl (whomever it was) feel as embarrassed as possible. Humiliation is the perfect way to teach someone proper phone etiquette.
 
2008-06-08 01:48:35 PM  
MonkeyAngst: Wow, GOOD JOB Fark. A racist troll appears and only two people took the bait. Congratulations, everyone. skinink and Hubert Sumlin, try to do better next time.

Oops, sorry, I meant skinink, Hubert Sumlin, and MonkeyAngst. Because after all, I say jackandwater is a pathetic racist douche, whose self-validating anecdotal idea of ethnic behavior is weaker than the drink from which he takes his name.

/remember kids, the price of food is going up, but Troll Food is still CHEAP.



Oh, you are sooo funny!!! Obviously you have never observed life around you. You should try it!
 
2008-06-08 01:51:01 PM  
Bwahahah.....the judge's name is Restaino. Restraino??
 
2008-06-08 02:10:11 PM  
JeffreyScott: Your plan might work except for the 4th Amendment protections against unreasonable search and seizures.

IAmNotALawyer, however.... with everyone having just heard the cell phone ring, "unreasonable search" would (a) not stop a bailiff, (b) if claimed by the searchees, would give the judge pause only long enough to put every witness present under "oath or affirmation" to issue "probable cause" warrant on the spot AND make him lengthen the contempt sentence time from increased irritation, (c) tend to get laughed out of court if you sued for a civil rights violation afterward, because the cell phone disruption is an offense against the defendant's right to speedy trial, and (d) be far less likely to get the judge canned than jailing someone who is technically innocent.

The local ACLU would probably still be willing to take it up (and good for them, if so). They'd also probably expect to lose.

wwtsomifitsd: Nothing wrong with what he did. He should have stuck to his guns.

Err, it's "better ten guilty go free than one innocent should be punished", not the other way around.
 
2008-06-08 02:15:26 PM  
CasperImproved: If the four or five people around the perp could not turn him in, then they were either family, or chose to not comply with the judge's order to oust the perp, and because of that, all deserved to sit in jail for a few hours.

Um, the judge can give alot of lawful orders, but I'm pretty sure demanding you testify for any old crime isn't one of them. Otherwise he could force everyone who shows up to jury duty to report any illegal activity they know about.
 
2008-06-08 03:10:02 PM  
FormlessOne: He should've made them answer, individually, under oath. That way, he could've jailed them for contempt with more justification (or, snagged the one asshat who thought he was not only too self-important to turn his phone off, but that he could also lie to a judge with impunity.)

Dude, plead the fifth?
 
2008-06-08 03:24:36 PM  
Ok, what this judge did is extreme, but how else was he supposed to maintain order in his court? I'm not a lawyer either, but my understanding is that a judge can pretty much do whatever he needs to in order to keep his courtroom under control, up to and including charging everyone in the room with contempt and throwing them in jail. What sort of signal does it send criminals, both alleged and convicted, when a judge's authority is flouted in this way? Also, being in court is an aggravating enough experience without having to deal with endless stupid interruptions such as this. Just turn your damn phone off.
 
2008-06-08 03:38:50 PM  
He says he was wrong and under personal stress at the time.

Hey Judge - when you're a total asshole to people and you get caught doing it, there are real consequences.

/good luck driving in rush-hour traffic.
 
2008-06-08 04:46:58 PM  
jackandwater: Same at my credit union, sign says "No hoods, no sunglasses, no hats" and "please refrain from using your cell phone while in the building". And yet, it seems like it is always the members of a particular race that CONSTANTLY break these rules.

Haha, I'm white and I like to go into banks wearing a hat and sunglasses. I get great service because they ask me right away if they can help me etc (guess they want to end the suspense if they are gonna get robbed). Then I say "yes thank you" and take off the hat in a mannerly fashion and go about my banking.

/prescription sunglasses
//still wear the sunglasses through the door when wearing contacts
///lately i go in with the motorcycle helmet still on and the dark face shield, carrying a big duffel
////fark your stupid rules, you are welcome to ask me to leave and i will gladly close my accounts
 
2008-06-08 04:48:49 PM  
BTW did you ever consider that you only notice the Negroes and other coloreds (come on, that's what you meant) flaunting the rules because you see a white guy wearing sunglasses and you (like a normal person) say "oh, he came from outside, it's bright there" but with a darkie you always assume they are up to no good?

Racist.
 
2008-06-08 05:05:14 PM  
vsync: Here is how to handle the surveillance society:

Thank you, that was very relevant. Especially the last picture.
 
2008-06-08 08:26:58 PM  
Okie Cynic: many people with no prior history of assholiness become assholes when they put on judicial robes.

many people with no prior history of assholiness become assholes when they acquire cellular phones.


many people with no prior history of assholiness become assholes when they purchase a BMW.
 
2008-06-08 09:18:04 PM  
BTW did you ever consider that you only notice the Negroes and other coloreds (come on, that's what you meant) flaunting the rules because you see a white guy wearing sunglasses and you (like a normal person) say "oh, he came from outside, it's bright there" but with a darkie you always assume they are up to no good?

Racist.

No, I an not a racist. But I do observe that the "white folk" have their sunglasses hanging on their shirts or their hats tucked into their pockets. I wear prescription sunglasses and I take them off as soon as I hit the door. Last time I checked, the sun doesn't shine in a building with very few windows.
 
2008-06-09 12:20:56 AM  
abb3w: JeffreyScott: Your plan might work except for the 4th Amendment protections against unreasonable search and seizures.

IAmNotALawyer, however.... with everyone having just heard the cell phone ring, "unreasonable search" would (a) not stop a bailiff, (b) if claimed by the searchees, would give the judge pause only long enough to put every witness present under "oath or affirmation" to issue "probable cause" warrant on the spot AND make him lengthen the contempt sentence time from increased irritation, (c) tend to get laughed out of court if you sued for a civil rights violation afterward, because the cell phone disruption is an offense against the defendant's right to speedy trial, and (d) be far less likely to get the judge canned than jailing someone who is technically innocent.


It is clear you are not a lawyer by your response. Each and every one of your points contain huge flaws. I will address only the probable cause issue as that is most on-topic. It is clear there was no probable cause by the fact that 46 people were arrested when only one mobile phone sounded. Probable cause for an arrest must meet a "more likely than not" standard. In other words for each person arrested there had to be at least 51% chance that a person committed the offense. If the judge couldn't narrow it down between only two people then probable cause would not have existed. Here we are dealing 46 people.
 
2008-06-09 12:57:49 PM  
midnite_farker: Too bad these are illegal in the US. Would be great in court, theaters, churches....

And I would just laugh hilariously as my phone beeped because it wasn't getting service.
 
2008-06-09 09:59:33 PM  
Jammers might be illegal, but they're in use all the time, by a lot of people, in places you least expect.

Next time you walk into a Starbucks and see NOONE talking on their phone, there's a jammer in the store.

If you like, I can provide links to several excellent models, but not here. EIP
 
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