I used to fly every few months because it was quick, relatively inexpensive and easy. I gave that up after everything changed. I've got no patience to deal with idiots that landed themselves a career groping people while wearing rubber gloves and a tin badge. Since they've got the power cause people to miss their flight (or have them arrested for any reason they care to make up), it's just not worth the hassle or risk.

Sorry airline industry; TSA killed ya.

AndreMA: Beyond establishing that you're a pussy, I fail to discern the point of your post.

and the monkey flings the poo.

You know what TSA is? I'll tell you what it is. It's the most boring ass job you'll ever want to do, made worse by the gung-ho farkwads telling mothers to take booties off their newborn.

It's doing bag checks for a .5 oz bottle of Visine simply because it wasn't in a clear zip-lock.

It's dealing with the same idiotic questions/ comments from passengers?

"Where do I check in for Delta?"

"ahhhh...right there at that counter with the huge lettered icon DELTA 25 feet in front of you."

It's reading ITG comments here from guys who would rip into any TSA officer for any slight whatsoever, and yet never in the 6 years of TSA'ing have I ever seen an ITG stand up for any of his so called stolen civil rights, pouting not with standing.

And to answer the obvious question as to why I'm still there, retirement benefits, semi-ok pay, and I work with some awesome people.

When you fly on official ordes for work you automatically get tagged to be searched.

/Wierd being in the USCG "Department of homeland security"
and getting searched by some foreigner that barely speaks english.
// You would think that they would let me pass so not to waste my time and others behind me.
///since I am trusted with government equipment and secrets

phillydrifter: Fluffy_the_cactus: reacted without thinking

That's where you lose me. I don't 'react without thinking' (unless it's reflexive action like someone throwing a ball at my head) and no one i know 'reacts without thinking.'

It's entirely possible to simply react on instinct. It's also entirely possible to react, I suppose a better way to put it would be, without thinking ahead of the possible consequences.

Oh, and my sole joy isn't making people miserable, either (I know you didn't say that Phillydrifter), and I really resent being stereotyped because of someone's ignorant perception of an entire group of people. I am intelligent, I am reasonable, and I also resent the idea that the reason why I chose my job was to grope people. Jesus, how the fark did some of you crotchfruits come into existence?

SouthernManDunWrong: Silly man, you should have known that the nazis have quit their jobs to work at airport security. Didn't you know that you have no more rights? At least in the USA!

Scotland genius, Scotland.

This is kind of stupid. Haven't we all known that shouting bomb in an airport can get you in trouble for years and years even before 9/11? And TFA says he continued to shout about bombs after they asked him to stop and THAT is when security was called.

I mean you can dislike the rules or whatever but you can't pretend they don't exist and this seems kind of excessive. There are signs everywhere.

So I guess the "sneaking a box cutter and a Koran into your buddy's backpack" prank is out now?

Terrorists have been using commercial aircraft as targets for years. They are now using them as delivery systems for explosives and perhaps even gas, chemical, biological and nuclear weapons.

I think that a little delay and inconvenience is a small price to pay to do what we can to combat this. If you, "I'm too important to wait in line" Farkers want someone to blame then blame Militant Islam.

That's interesting. IRTFA.

flown a lot in the US after 2001 and haven't had a problem
took my shoes off once

I wonder what the courts would say to a person who was arrested for refusing to disrobe their normal attire for airport "security."

I can't help but think it's a guaranteed payday (albeit delayed) for the right person with the right clothes.

No, no, don't get adamant, simply refuse, get denied your flight, then take your fight to the courts. (Helps if you didn't want to go on the trip anyway!)

Samsaran: Terrorists have been using commercial aircraft as targets for years. They are now using them as delivery systems for explosives and perhaps even gas, chemical, biological and nuclear weapons.

I think that a little delay and inconvenience is a small price to pay to do what we can to combat this. If you, "I'm too important to wait in line" Farkers want someone to blame then blame Militant Islam.

I blame people in charge of making such processes who have never heard of the Law of Diminishing Returns.

Barbecue Bob: Ever notice nobody hijacks aircraft anymore?

Happened somewhere on Earth rather often when I was a kid. Now, not so much.

Hate airport security, but whatever, I'm over it.

New type of problems require an evolution of solutions.

Dude, the reason nobody hijacks planes anymore is that since 9-11, instead of riding it out and figuring they'll probably be released eventually, the passengers will farking bumrush the terrorists. In the old days, you'd figure you'd probably be released eventually. Now, everyone would figure they're going to be crashed into something if they don't charge.

The changes to security haven't been solutions for the most part; they've been security theater, intended to make us think something substantive is actually being done.

phillydrifter: The contracts manager ... yelled at staff "I have got a belt, not a bomb".

If I heard that from 50,100 feet away I wouldn't be sure of what I heard, but I'd know i heard the word 'bomb' and would summarily cancel my flight.

If you heard that from better than fifty thousand feet away you'd have really damned good hearing.
/Yes, I know what you meant. This is much funnier.

Lordmontu: DgtlCalm: And or common sense dictates that certain things may get you in trouble, and or treated differently and generally are not good thing to say out loud. Getting upset and declaring "Its not like I have a bomb" while in an airport may not be one of the most brilliant things to declare. Kind of like getting pulled over by a cop and declaring "Its not like I have a drugs" when he asks for license and registration...don't be to shocked if you get treated differently.

The difference: You will be arrested and fined for saying "It's not like I have a bomb."

The cop still needs to find drugs on you to be able to do anything.

The difference: You are not actually getting "arrested" 9 times out of 10 at an airport. You won't be taken to jail, you won't have charges filed against you. At the airport, you will be taken to some security office and told you cannot be on this or that flight unless they do find a bomb on you.

I don't have a problem with this.

If a grown man can't make it through a security line without using the word "bomb" then he is too stupid to fly. I've flown dozens of times without saying "bomb" or "raping your children".

""There was an exchange of views after which he (Bjoennes) removed the belt and threw it into the receptacle for it to go through the X-ray machine," said Mr Allan.

Bjoennes went through the metal detector but was then stopped for a random security search."


The guy's an asshat but an understandable one. Airport security started it though. Everyone involved needs to be fined.

Barbecue Bob: Ever notice nobody hijacks aircraft anymore?

Nobody hijacks aircraft anymore because there isn't a reasonable assumption of safety on the part of the hijacked. In the past, generally you were flown around and would be released. Since 9/11, if you're involved in a hijacking, you're going to assume that you're going to die, and this have nothing to lose by fighting back.

If you were robbed at gunpoint, you'd hand over your wallet. If you were robbed at gunpoint and had a pretty good idea that your assailant was going to rape and murder you, you would fight back as well.

This isn't the only reason of course- hijackings were down before 9/11- but you bet we won't see any more successful hijackings because people will fight against their captors.

Sooner or later, somebody, somewhere, is going to snap going through airport security theater.

VegasVinnie: I used to fly every few months because it was quick, relatively inexpensive and easy. I gave that up after everything changed. I've got no patience to deal with idiots that landed themselves a career groping people while wearing rubber gloves and a tin badge. Since they've got the power cause people to miss their flight (or have them arrested for any reason they care to make up), it's just not worth the hassle or risk.

Sorry airline industry; TSA killed ya.


Unfortunately, the train system won't get off their asses and take advantage of it. I looked up taking a train instead and the bastards wanted a two day layover in Chicago from east to west coast. I'd rather be groped by a leprosy infected Mexican at the airport than spend two days in Chicago.

VegasVinnie: I used to fly every few months because it was quick, relatively inexpensive and easy. I gave that up after everything changed. I've got no patience to deal with idiots that landed themselves a career groping people while wearing rubber gloves and a tin badge. Since they've got the power cause people to miss their flight (or have them arrested for any reason they care to make up), it's just not worth the hassle or risk.

Sorry airline industry; TSA killed ya.

I have no clue who you are, what you do, or what you take with you.

But my company flies people and goods (10k+ us$) every week. None of our employees have ever reported having any problem getting out of the US, regardless of what they looked like, what they carried, what they baggaged, etc. Even the 1 day employees, who have never flown, never have problems. Our employees range from Whitest-white-bread to 'omg jihad blow up plane' darkies.

Perhaps...just perhaps...the people who cannot understand clearly posted (multiple times!!) rules...are the idiots. Not TSA employees.

But please, resume your blind bashing of things.

/Notice I said 'getting out of the US'. Getting in requires sick bribes. No kidding
//Idiots

Unfortunately, the train system won't get off their asses and take advantage of it. I looked up taking a train instead and the bastards wanted a two day layover in Chicago from east to west coast. I'd rather be groped by a leprosy infected Mexican at the airport than spend two days in Chicago.


I think you revealed a lot about the average American "value system" in your post more than you think you did. We're willing to endure almost anything except a temporary inconvenience. And when it comes to choosing between two conveniences, the greater doesn't matter, it's which one is more time consuming that's important. That isn't good or bad, that's just the way it is.

jonr:Sooner or later, somebody, somewhere, is going to snap going through airport security theater.

It would be a bit amusing to see "terrorism" directed at the airport Nazis, rather than the aircraft -- very ironic (in the true sense of the word).

jshine: jonr:Sooner or later, somebody, somewhere, is going to snap going through airport security theater.

It would be a bit amusing to see "terrorism" directed at the airport Nazis, rather than the aircraft -- very ironic (in the true sense of the word).

There are Nazis at the airport?! OMG! And I work there! My Grandmother's German-Jew, do you think I should make sure she never visits me at work again???

h to the 'ojo
The word Bomb has never killed anyone

You and half the people here are farking nuts. Screaming about bombs in an airport is the same damn thing as screaming about fire in a crowded movie theatre.

I see there are many on this thread that have succumbed to the Authority of the airports. What a sad world we live in indeed.

Better watch out, don't say hello to Jack, cause the big bad government will throw you under the jail cause you mad them ascared. If the morons had been doing their jobs on the morning of 9/11 instead of thinking about last night's sports game, we wouldn't have to go barefootin in the airport.

Fluffy_the_cactus: Unfortunately, the train system won't get off their asses and take advantage of it. I looked up taking a train instead and the bastards wanted a two day layover in Chicago from east to west coast. I'd rather be groped by a leprosy infected Mexican at the airport than spend two days in Chicago.


I think you revealed a lot about the average American "value system" in your post more than you think you did. We're willing to endure almost anything except a temporary inconvenience. And when it comes to choosing between two conveniences, the greater doesn't matter, it's which one is more time consuming that's important. That isn't good or bad, that's just the way it is.


Not entirely. I also did the math and ended up driving. It was cheaper than the plane ticket and faster than the train. When you can drive coast to coast faster than Amtrak can get you there, there's a problem.

VegasVinnie

Since they've got the power cause people to miss their flight (or have them arrested for any reason they care to make up), it's just not worth the hassle or risk.

Yeah, TSA personell are the only people with arrest powers. The paranoia in here is fascinating.

Lots43: VegasVinnie

Since they've got the power cause people to miss their flight (or have them arrested for any reason they care to make up), it's just not worth the hassle or risk.

Yeah, TSA personell are the only people with arrest powers. The paranoia in here is fascinating.

When did we get the power to arrest someone? Can I use that power on some of my co-workers? Please???

Nocens, yeah, I agree that's pretty messed up. I'm with you on the driving thing. I love driving wherever I'm going. I can stop at any point and take pictures (I'm a bit of a photographer), and I can just... do what I please. I don't like the airport hassle (and I'm not talking about security. That part's easy as logging onto fark). It's also expensive, and I enjoy spending relaxed time with my family, which is more likely to happen on the road than on the air. The journey is the experience, the destination is a side-track. ;)

than in the air, not on the air. Damn, I'm tired.

Here's some more on this Judge when he was a prosecutor and the county. Fairly long and a pretty outrageous read. On one hand, I can't believe he was made a judge and on the other with the reputation of the county in this article it's not surprising at all.

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Nocens: Here's some more on this Judge when he was a prosecutor and the county. Fairly long and a pretty outrageous read. On one hand, I can't believe he was made a judge and on the other with the reputation of the county in this article it's not surprising at all.

Link (new window)

Whoops, wrong thread!

DrForrester: The father-of-two, who is teetotal...

Well, there's the problem. He's teetotal.

Would it have made a difference if he'd been a guy who went home and had a couple of beers in the evening, or a glass of wine with dinner?

I love British newswriters. They thrive on unimportant details.

TFA: Sheriff John Horsburgh QC said the fine would have been £1,000 if Bjoennes had not pled guilty at the first opportunity.

Piss on you. People like you shouldn't be working in the public sector. In fact, you should be stuck in a small room filing papers, where you will have little to no contact with the civilized world.

Asshole.

SouthernManDunWrong: Silly man, you should have known that the nazis have quit their jobs to work at airport security. Didn't you know that you have no more rights? At least in the USA!

Holy shiat. When did we take over the UK? Do they have oil?

/Heathrow

Fluffy_the_cactus:There are Nazis at the airport?! OMG! And I work there! My Grandmother's German-Jew, do you think I should make sure she never visits me at work again???

I would recommend that no one visit an airport unless absolutely necessary.

jshine: Fluffy_the_cactus:There are Nazis at the airport?! OMG! And I work there! My Grandmother's German-Jew, do you think I should make sure she never visits me at work again???

I would recommend that no one visit an airport unless absolutely necessary.

I'm trying to cut back, but these damned bills just won't go away. It's almost like having a wife and kids is expensive or something. Isn't that a crock of shiat?

jshine: Fluffy_the_cactus:There are Nazis at the airport?! OMG! And I work there! My Grandmother's German-Jew, do you think I should make sure she never visits me at work again???

I would recommend that no one visit an airport unless absolutely necessary.


Oh, and no, it would not be amusing if a terrorist directed an attack at security personnel. Because that would include me, and I want my kids to have something I didn't when I was a kid: A father that was around.

Anyone who trades liberty for security deserves neither liberty nor security.

natas6.0: celery_stalker

I gotta tell you man, that statement can only come from someone who has never had to put his arse on the line.

But using quotes from people smarter than yerself must be good fer linking up with chicks who don't shave

That isn't even the accurate quote, either. He butchered it. It's: "They who would give up an essential liberty for temporary security, deserve neither liberty or security"


Here, let me repeat that with certain words emboldened. "They who would give up an essential liberty for temporary security, deserve neither liberty or security"

Just once, I'd love to hear about a burger-flipper recognizing a TSA agent buying a burger and performing a little turn-about.

TSA Agent: I'd like a burger, large fries, and a large coke, please.

McCashier: Yes, sir. please empty your pockets into this basket. I'll be needing your shoes and belt as well.

TSA Agent: WTF?!? This isn't an airport!!

McCashier: No sir, but there are as many people here as you'd find on your typical flight. We have to take precautions too, you know. If you don't have anything to hide, there shouldn't be any problem. Now please cooperate, or I'll be forced to call the local police.

etc.

my palms were slick with sweat. I choked back the adrenaline rush tasting the fear, feeling, knowing that every eye in the place was focused on me. But the mission, the mission was the only thing that mattered. I felt as if my legs were going to shake themselves apart, I was almost paralyzed with fear. Somehow I willed myself to go on. I knew that this was it. I was going to the airport without a bomb. If they caught me, it would be the end.... THE END!

/cue "Brazil"

Fluffy_the_cactus:Oh, and no, it would not be amusing if a terrorist directed an attack at security personnel. Because that would include me, and I want my kids to have something I didn't when I was a kid: A father that was around.

Dude, chill. I was being facetious -- I'm not seriously advocating anyone go postal on the checkpoints. I'm sorry if you missed that rather important bit, but perhaps you should check the batteries in your sarcasm detector.

jshine: Fluffy_the_cactus:Oh, and no, it would not be amusing if a terrorist directed an attack at security personnel. Because that would include me, and I want my kids to have something I didn't when I was a kid: A father that was around.

Dude, chill. I was being facetious -- I'm not seriously advocating anyone go postal on the checkpoints. I'm sorry if you missed that rather important bit, but perhaps you should check the batteries in your sarcasm detector.

Sorry 'bout that. I haven't had much sleep recently, since I have college finals this next week, so I've been a bit on edge. Again, my apologies. My sarcasm detector was turned off at 7 this evening. lol

It there a Seinfeld episode about bombs? I might remember one, or atleast there should be one.

/"What do you mean you can't say 'bomb' in an airport? I'll say whatever I want to say, "Bomb, bomb, bomb""