Norad:A buuuuh..???

No, not a buuuh, a bomb.

Lordmontu: The difference: You will be arrested and fined for saying "It's not like I have a bomb."

The cop still needs to find drugs on you to be able to do anything.

Like I said "Don't be to shocked if you get treated differently."

If you did not mention the the possibility of having drugs on you when pulled over, would the cop do a random search for said drugs? Treating you differently for making a stupid comment?

"Sheriff John Horsburgh QC said the fine would have been £1,000 if Bjoennes had not pled guilty at the first opportunity."
Most disturbing thing in this whole article. Fessing up to your mistake and saving everyone's time = greater punishment???

TSA:

These Shoes Attack.

Mattyb710
Damn! You beat me to it!

/oh and this

theoutlaw:
Sometimes restrictions are there for a reason. Personally, I would rather take a little plastic bag with less than 100ml of water onto a plane than DIE on it.

Yes... those are the two choices. Fly under completely irrational security requirements or die. I don't know why I didn't see that earlier.

*sigh*

There is no scientific reason for the current liquid ban. TATP can only be formulated under lab conditions and is highly unstable. There's no good way to mix up a batch in the plane's lav, nor is it feasible to make it in a home lab and transport it to the airport.

He was fined £650 rather than the £1,000 otherwise indicated...


...£650 < £1,000

"I think conduct of this sort in an airport is extremely disruptive," said the sheriff.



but asking random people to undress when they're on a schedule is just smooth sailing.

tonguedepressor: Hey Fluff, haven't seen you in a TSA bashing thread for a while. You still at the same end of the whip as I am?

That I am. Good to see you're still around. Thought maybe I could join in and have some fun at my own expense. You know, like old times.

I got the bomb, son!

mmmmm, I love California, we got the God's Gift strain.

He was acting like a jerk and he really deserves a hassle for yelling "Bomb" in an airport, but the fine is a bit much. Especially since he apologized.

If you did not mention the the possibility of having drugs on you when pulled over, would the cop do a random search for said drugs? Treating you differently for making a stupid comment?


Interesting comment. If a soccer mom joked about having a kilo of coke in the back of the SUV the cop would laugh it off. If a person of color made the same joke there would be a K9 and several backup units at the scene.

As far as airport security, I think it has been made very clear that any jokes or comments about certain items or activity will not be tolerated. Remeber that episode of Three's Company where Chrissy said "Hi, Jack" on the airplane? That was a long time ago. They were uptight then and even more so now.

Never shout "Hi, Jack!" when greeting a colleague in a crowded airport.

/the more you know

Paused Broken Stop:the £650 is the same amount, reduced as a reward for sparing the court time and the taxpayer money.

I do see the logic in it -- don't get me wrong -- but it still strikes me the wrong way (as does plea-bargaining). An innocent person with a weak case is forced to decide between either pursuing what he/she knows to be right or an expedient guilty plea to (probably) save a few quid.

/ I can't imagine being wrongly-accused of a serious crime and having to play this game with years of my life rather than money.

Such fine reporting! The contractor whom makes 100k a year after tax..etc etc... who cares? Is that brought up as to state "he's a classy guy, he makes a decent living, this is an outrage!"

My son, the lawyer, who drives a Lexus...

I meant to quote DgtlCalm in the first part of my comment.

Ever notice nobody hijacks aircraft anymore?

Happened somewhere on Earth rather often when I was a kid. Now, not so much.

Hate airport security, but whatever, I'm over it.

New type of problems require an evolution of solutions.

"Hey, hey, If you would take a second, take the little sticks out of your head, clean out your ears, and maybe you would see that I'm a person who has feelings, and all I have to do is do what I wanna do and all I want to do is hold on to my bag and not listen to you! And the only way that I would ever let go of my bag would be if you came over here right now and tried to pry it from my dead, lifeless fingers, okay? If you can get it from my kung-fu grip then you can come and have it, okay? Otherwise, step off, biatch."

MisfitDoctor: "I think conduct of this sort in an airport is extremely disruptive," said the sheriff.



but asking random people to undress when they're on a schedule is just smooth sailing.

I'm just willing to bet that, if you consider going through security to be "undressing", you've been going to the wrong clubs.

The right clubs, let me show them to you.

karl2025: Especially since he apologized.

Right. After I shoot your mom i'll just apologize and that'll make it all better. You eat a bowl of stupid for breakfast or were you being sarcastic having not realized sarcasm doesn't carry well over the innertubes?

Who knows how many flights had to be delayed for hours over the scare.

SouthernManDunWrong: nazis

Damn man, godwinned on the Boobies. Nice work.

I flew out of Edinburgh 13 months ago, and was 'randomly' searched twice. I should've played the lottery that day.

/maybe looks arab
//really hispanic
///has never been randomly searched before or since and I fly a lot.

ultrachronic:
Back on topic: Removing your belt when going through security's standard, isn't it?

No. I've never removed mine, because there's nothing in it that sets off the metal detectors. They always say "that buckle might set off the detector" but never question me when I walk through and it doesn't.

Someone set us up the bomb!

/sorry, I still love that old meme.
//Make your time.

phillydrifter: karl2025: Especially since he apologized.

Right. After I shoot your mom i'll just apologize and that'll make it all better. You eat a bowl of stupid for breakfast or were you being sarcastic having not realized sarcasm doesn't carry well over the innertubes?

Who knows how many flights had to be delayed for hours over the scare.

SouthernManDunWrong: nazis

Damn man, godwinned on the Boobies. Nice work.


Come on though, let's use some common sense here, though. He wasn't yelling that he *had* a bomb. If that were the case, I'd say he got what he deserved by getting the fine, and maybe should've gotten worse off. But that isn't what he said, and anybody with two brain cells could easily understand this. Now, granted, I don't know 100% what else he said, but the article never mentions that he yelled that he had a bomb on him or in his bags or whatnot, which is pretty important, I'd think. One would then think that the article would make mention of that if that were the case. I think the fine in this instance was a bit over the top.

theoutlaw: Farkistani: theoutlaw: I think any rational person knows it's not a good idea to shout 'BOMB' in an airport =\

He was dealing with people who see 4oz of water as a threat to national security. I don't think "rational" fits into their job description.

Sometimes restrictions are there for a reason. Personally, I would rather take a little plastic bag with less than 100ml of water onto a plane than DIE on it.

Yes, but your reasoning is false. First, there odds of them actually pulling off a binary liquid attack with acetone and muriatic acid (what started all this) is slim, 'cause (a) if you prematurely detonate then the yield isn't that worthwhile and (b) they need large quantities. HOWEVER! If you know what you're doing its not hard to prep more powerful explosives (including binary liquids) that would EASILY do the job with less than 3 fl oz. of liquid (nitroglycerine would be SIMPLE, and anyone who knows plastics could mold that into the soles of their shoes). The liquid thing is there just to make you think you're safe... it wouldn't do a damned thing.

scottydoesntknow: blacksun: SonOfSpam: That's very sensible, because more than 100ml of water will KILL you.

Here, have some koolaid instead.

100ml of VX sure can though.

Woohoo!! Irrational fears FTW!

1 ml is sufficient to kill several planeloads of people.

Fluffy_the_cactus: Come on though, let's use some common sense here, though. He wasn't yelling that he *had* a bomb. If that were the case, I'd say he got what he deserved by getting the fine, and maybe should've gotten worse off. But that isn't what he said, and anybody with two brain cells could easily understand this. Now, granted, I don't know 100% what else he said, but the article never mentions that he yelled that he had a bomb on him or in his bags or whatnot, which is pretty important, I'd think. One would then think that the article would make mention of that if that were the case. I think the fine in this instance was a bit over the top.

lets use a little common sense: you don't utter the word 'bomb' when you're in an airport.

lets use a little common sense: stop responding to Fluffy, he's a lost cause.

Airport security take their jobs very seriously and if you even wrote the word bomb in a notebook and someone saw it, you wasted money on an airplane ticket you won't be using.

/and you people call this 'intelligent' life

I'm puzzled by the lack of Gaylord Fokker references...

phillydrifter: Fluffy_the_cactus: Come on though, let's use some common sense here, though. He wasn't yelling that he *had* a bomb. If that were the case, I'd say he got what he deserved by getting the fine, and maybe should've gotten worse off. But that isn't what he said, and anybody with two brain cells could easily understand this. Now, granted, I don't know 100% what else he said, but the article never mentions that he yelled that he had a bomb on him or in his bags or whatnot, which is pretty important, I'd think. One would then think that the article would make mention of that if that were the case. I think the fine in this instance was a bit over the top.

lets use a little common sense: you don't utter the word 'bomb' when you're in an airport.

lets use a little common sense: stop responding to Fluffy, he's a lost cause.

Airport security take their jobs very seriously and if you even wrote the word bomb in a notebook and someone saw it, you wasted money on an airplane ticket you won't be using.

/and you people call this 'intelligent' life

WTF? Seriously, a big, neon, WTF? I didn't say he was smart for saying "bomb" in an airport, but let's take it in context and look at what was going on. He was clearly agitated (after all, why should anyone do what they don't want to do?), and reacted without thinking. He didn't even make a threat. Whoop-dee-fark.

/What do you mean by "you people"?

The contracts manager ... yelled at staff "I have got a belt, not a bomb".

If I heard that from 50,100 feet away I wouldn't be sure of what I heard, but I'd know i heard the word 'bomb' and would summarily cancel my flight.

He appeared at Edinburgh Sheriff Court and pled guilty to breach of the peace.

Even HE knew he was wrong. Why can't you?

/still no cure for teh stoopid

Fluffy_the_cactus: reacted without thinking

That's where you lose me. I don't 'react without thinking' (unless it's reflexive action like someone throwing a ball at my head) and no one i know 'reacts without thinking.'

I'm not gonna argue with you any more, fluff so you can stop wasting your time cuz you're not gonna waste any more of mine.

phillydrifter: Airport security take their jobs very seriously and if you even wrote the word bomb in a notebook and someone saw it, you wasted money on an airplane ticket you won't be using.

I think what you meant is "Airport Security is staffed by rejects who really wanted to be cops but were too fat and stupid to pass the entrance test, and now have a huge chip on their shoulders which they use their new-found power to compensate for their feelings of inadequacy."

More importantly, they don't actually make airports any more safe, as evidenced by the many studies released since the new security measures were put in place that show just how easy it is to smuggle simulated explosives onto a plane.

So what we have here is a huge drain on the public, staffed by morons whose sole pleasure is making people miserable, and we don't even get any benefits out of it.

Police were called after Bjoennes continued to shout about bombs and he was arrested.

"There was an exchange of views after which he (Bjoennes) removed the belt and threw it into the receptacle for it to go through the X-ray machine," said Mr Allan.

Yeah! Way to go, asshat! First you walk thru a metal detector and get pissed cuz your heavy belt buckle sets it off, THEN you throw a temper tantrum and throw the belt at the machine and shout at the staff about bombs.

What a retard. I'm glad I was raised better.

/thx 4 da pic, oldscotch...mind if i throw it in my fark 'bucket?
//'Bjoennes'...isn't that like, Portuguese for 'brass balls'?

"There was an exchange of views after which he (Bjoennes) removed the belt and threw it into the receptacle for it to go through the X-ray machine," said Mr Allan.

Bjoennes went through the metal detector but was then stopped for a random security search.

Sounds like they asked him to take off his belt, he threw a fit, and when he got through the detector, they farked with him to teach him a lesson about being a dick.

/epic fail

OldScotch

So if you can be arrested for making statements, does this mean that one should never speak to a TSA agent?

Lusiphur: So what we have here is a huge drain on the public, staffed by morons whose sole pleasure is making people miserable, and we don't even get any benefits out of it.

Morons who can't follow the very clearly stated rules. (See OldScotch's pic.

/sounds like someone couldn't get a job with airport security

/Understands the fuss...

I don't understand why any of you who are defending this retard are defending him. You must be retards yourselves and feel threatened that one of your brethren was arrested.

phillydrifter: I'm not gonna argue with you any more, fluff so you can stop wasting your time cuz you're not gonna waste any more of mine.

I'll argue with you philly, what seems to be the counter-points?

There's nothing to argue about.

phillydrifter: I'd know i heard the word 'bomb' and would summarily cancel my flight.

Beyond establishing that you're a pussy, I fail to discern the point of your post.

phillydrifter: There's nothing to argue about.

There's always something to argue about, that's why we have filters.

phillydrifter: Morons who can't follow the very clearly stated rules.

The "stated rules" are stupid and counterproductive. A rule is not always correct by virtue of being a rule. That's alright though. We can't all have higher reasoning skills. If we did, who would we get to flip our burgers and keep the chrome rim industry afloat?

The contracts manager, who earns £120,000 a year after tax

So factoring in the exchange rate he makes about $1 million?

scottydoesntknow: You're right, but show me when it's been used, or threatened use, on a commercial flight. I could also say "OMG ANTHRAX WILL BE UNLEASHED ON A FLIGHT IF THEY DON'T CONFISCATE YOUR SHAMPOO!",

More importantly, 1ml of VX can be smuggled so easily on a plane, even WITH all the security procedures in place, that banning shampoo would be like banning the sale of holsters in the hopes that it would reduce gun violence.