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		Norwegian man fined $1300 for not having bomb when passing through airport security. Maybe he should've brought one (news.bbc.co.uk)		166
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SouthernManDunWrong		2008-06-07 02:50:29 PM

Silly man, you should have known that the nazis have quit their jobs to work at airport security. Didn't you know that you have no more rights? At least in the USA!

ultrachronic		2008-06-07 04:53:45 PM

Ah sweet, it went green.

My drought of Greenlit articles is over! (for the time being).

Back on topic: Removing your belt when going through security's standard, isn't it?

Now, it's the removal of shoes when going through Heathrow security that pisses me off

eldopa		2008-06-07 05:52:09 PM

"He overreacted, he cannot explain it. He's appalled by his own conduct and is genuinely sorry," the lawyer added.

I can: He is a human being living in a cage he can't see. Ever go to a zoo and look at how happy the animals are? Same thing.

Solty Dog		2008-06-07 05:52:23 PM

Security made me take my belt off when I went to the Washington monument. It was cool cause I looked all ghetto.

Fluffy_the_cactus		2008-06-07 05:56:58 PM

What a complete idiot.

FTFA: Police were called after Bjoennes continued to shout about bombs and he was arrested.

Airports are stressful, no matter what country you're in. Sounds like this guy just had a bad day. He offered an apology, they should let it go at that.

DrForrester		2008-06-07 05:57:29 PM

The father-of-two, who is teetotal...

Well, there's the problem. He's teetotal.

Norad		2008-06-07 05:59:02 PM

A buuuuh..???

jabbedxorz		2008-06-07 05:59:03 PM

Airport security is just as bad as customs.

benwa		2008-06-07 05:59:25 PM

"The father-of-two, who is teetotal,"

I sees the problem.

Fluffy_the_cactus		2008-06-07 06:00:28 PM

jabbedxorz: Airport security is just as bad as customs.

I always thought we were worse. LOL

Archie DeBunker		2008-06-07 06:03:05 PM

What ever happened with that guy who got in trouble for wearing the Transformers t-shirt? Did he get an official apology from anyone? I know that the story was picked up by quite a few news sites.

AndreMA		2008-06-07 06:03:45 PM

Sheriff John Horsburgh QC said the fine would have been £1,000 if Bjoennes had not pled guilty at the first opportunity.

Perhaps the titles have a different meaning in the UK, but since when is it proper for a "Sherrif" to say what a fine is or would have been? Isn't that what judges are for?

"I think conduct of this sort in an airport is extremely disruptive," said the sheriff.

Whereas arresting someone for no good reason isn't disruptive. I guess they hire the retarded on the other side of the pond, too.

theoutlaw		2008-06-07 06:04:09 PM

I think any rational person knows it's not a good idea to shout 'BOMB' in an airport =\

AndreMA		2008-06-07 06:06:01 PM

Yes, I know "Sheriff" is the correct spelling. Dyslexia caused me to read it in the misspelled form I put in quotes.

Farkistani		2008-06-07 06:07:02 PM

theoutlaw: I think any rational person knows it's not a good idea to shout 'BOMB' in an airport =\

He was dealing with people who see 4oz of water as a threat to national security. I don't think "rational" fits into their job description.

cretinbob		2008-06-07 06:09:22 PM

//unavailable for comment

Farkistani		2008-06-07 06:09:24 PM

Sorry, that would be 100ml for you metric type folks across the pond.

Scorched Colon		2008-06-07 06:09:58 PM

AndreMA
Perhaps the titles have a different meaning in the UK, but since when is it proper for a "Sherrif" to say what a fine is or would have been? Isn't that what judges are for?

This may answer your question. It's from wikipedia

In Scotland, a sheriff is an analogous to a judge and sits in a second-tier court, called the Sheriff Court. The Sheriff is legally qualified, in comparison with a lay Justice of the Peace who preside over the first-tier District Courts in Scotland.

The sheriff court is a court of first instance for the majority of both civil and criminal cases. However, the court's powers are limited, so that major crimes such as rape or murder and complex or high-value civil cases are dealt with in the High Court (for criminal matters) or the Court of Session (for civil matters).

h to the 'ojo		2008-06-07 06:10:08 PM

The word Bomb has never killed anyone

The problem is airport security can't even pretend to handle more than the absolute simplest tasks

AndreMA		2008-06-07 06:10:57 PM

His mistake was saying "don't make your jobs more important than they are". Burger-flippers and people of similar skill level insist on being considered gourmet chefs.

DgtlCalm		2008-06-07 06:12:57 PM

Well no shock he got fined, don't go to an airport and mention the word 'bomb' in a loud hostile manner. Everyone thinks the checks are annoying but the minute 'bomb' leaves your lips be prepared to be treated differently.

wearfe		2008-06-07 06:13:09 PM

AndreMA: His mistake was saying "don't make your jobs more important than they are". Burger-flippers and people of similar skill level insist on being considered gourmet chefs.

cheap bastard probably didn't even tip.

AndreMA		2008-06-07 06:14:25 PM

Scorched Colon: Thank you for a polite and informative reply. Though it seems to me that in the present case, the Sheriff in question (presumably acting in a court of first instance (hearing the initial plea following arraignment in US jargon)) is still presuming what another, higher-ranking judge would impose as a fine should the defendant be found guilty at trial.

h to the 'ojo		2008-06-07 06:15:25 PM

Edinburgh Aiport Security, testimonials (poptarts)

This is a regular occurrence at that airport apparently

jimmy26_07		2008-06-07 06:16:03 PM

Where are the Focker pics?

h to the 'ojo		2008-06-07 06:16:24 PM

Fark stripped the link from my post, the URL is

http://www.geocities.com/hpmoonen/edigb.html

Doc Batarang		2008-06-07 06:18:13 PM

I've always wanted to go to the DMZ in Korea and lock eyes with the first Marine I see and sprint towards the North Korean border.

They'd stop me, right?

/Right?!

Konataism		2008-06-07 06:18:36 PM

The father-of-two, [...] was arrested, said Mr Smith.

"He had been [...] a fuss [...]," said Mr Smith.

"He [...] is genuinely sorry," the lawyer added.

So, this mysterious Mr Smith is the man's lawyer? Don't you normally introduce people first? Or does this rule only apply to Fiscal depute Neil Allan.

/ too perfectionistic to be a journalist

ctobio		2008-06-07 06:21:34 PM

SouthernManDunWrong: Silly man, you should have known that the nazis have quit their jobs to work at airport security. Didn't you know that you have no more rights? At least in the USA!

From TFA:

Kjell Bjoennes, 52, became upset when asked to remove his belt as he passed through the security area at Edinburgh [Scotland] Airport on Thursday.

In other words, you fail at being relevant.

Gordon Bennett		2008-06-07 06:25:26 PM

Archie DeBunker: What ever happened with that guy who got in trouble for wearing the Transformers t-shirt? Did he get an official apology from anyone? I know that the story was picked up by quite a few news sites.

He's on b3ta, and like everyone there, has been enjoying the media attention.

theoutlaw		2008-06-07 06:26:29 PM

Farkistani: theoutlaw: I think any rational person knows it's not a good idea to shout 'BOMB' in an airport =\

He was dealing with people who see 4oz of water as a threat to national security. I don't think "rational" fits into their job description.

Sometimes restrictions are there for a reason. Personally, I would rather take a little plastic bag with less than 100ml of water onto a plane than DIE on it.

ImJustaTroll		2008-06-07 06:26:59 PM

I'd go in with the transformer shirt, and my alternate shirt would have in big red letters:

TSA'S biatch.

unfiltered, of course.

DgtlCalm		2008-06-07 06:28:25 PM

And or common sense dictates that certain things may get you in trouble, and or treated differently and generally are not good thing to say out loud. Getting upset and declaring "Its not like I have a bomb" while in an airport may not be one of the most brilliant things to declare. Kind of like getting pulled over by a cop and declaring "Its not like I have a drugs" when he asks for license and registration...don't be to shocked if you get treated differently.

SonOfSpam		2008-06-07 06:41:13 PM

theoutlaw

Sometimes restrictions are there for a reason. Personally, I would rather take a little plastic bag with less than 100ml of water onto a plane than DIE on it.

That's very sensible, because more than 100ml of water will KILL you.

Here, have some koolaid instead.

blacksun		2008-06-07 06:45:16 PM

SonOfSpam: That's very sensible, because more than 100ml of water will KILL you.

Here, have some koolaid instead.

100ml of VX sure can though.

Benjimin_Dover		2008-06-07 06:45:32 PM

Doc Batarang: I've always wanted to go to the DMZ in Korea and lock eyes with the first Marine I see and sprint towards the North Korean border.

They'd stop me, right?

/Right?!

Not really. We didn't care if you wanted to go north. Coming back, you'd have a problem.

Belltower		2008-06-07 06:46:19 PM

Maybe he should've brought one

"I hope you brought enough for everyone."
"I didn't know there was gonna be so many!"

Have a care, sir, or I shall take off my belt, and by God! My trousers will fall down!

qqqq		2008-06-07 06:48:27 PM

SouthernMan:

There is no such thing as a 'Bill of Rights' in EUnuchland.

Lordmontu		2008-06-07 06:49:44 PM

DgtlCalm: And or common sense dictates that certain things may get you in trouble, and or treated differently and generally are not good thing to say out loud. Getting upset and declaring "Its not like I have a bomb" while in an airport may not be one of the most brilliant things to declare. Kind of like getting pulled over by a cop and declaring "Its not like I have a drugs" when he asks for license and registration...don't be to shocked if you get treated differently.

The difference: You will be arrested and fined for saying "It's not like I have a bomb."

The cop still needs to find drugs on you to be able to do anything.

celery_stalker		2008-06-07 06:50:00 PM

Has anyone every said 'Bomb' at an airport and actually have one? If someone had one wouldn't that be the last thing they bring up?

Paused Broken Stop		2008-06-07 06:50:57 PM

AndreMA: It would have been the same Sheriff handling the disposition. It would be entirely up to the Sheriff, assuming no appeal is made to the HCJ, whether or not to refer the case to them, and he would only do so if for some reason he felt incarceration in excess of six months or a fine in excess of £5,000 ($10,000) were indicated, which I believe would be outwith the statutory limit regardless.

jshine		2008-06-07 06:52:21 PM

TFA:Sheriff John Horsburgh QC said the fine would have been £1,000 if Bjoennes had not pled guilty at the first opportunity.

So there are varying degrees of guilt for a given act in Britain? Interesting, if a bit fascist.

/ "Your fine is £500."
// "But I didn't do it!"
/// "Okay, £1000 -- shall we keep going?"

scottydoesntknow		2008-06-07 06:53:29 PM

blacksun: SonOfSpam: That's very sensible, because more than 100ml of water will KILL you.

Here, have some koolaid instead.

100ml of VX sure can though.

Woohoo!! Irrational fears FTW!

stewbert		2008-06-07 06:53:50 PM

I'm torn. If I were behind this guy in the airport, I'd be pissed that he was holding up the line (sorry, queue). But airport security needs a beatdown these days, IMHO.

Sometimes I get the immense pleasure of flying out of my local airport on our corporate jet. Our own security greets me, calls me Sir, and in general, treats me decent. Although we all get to keep our shoes and belts (and dignity) in tact, we have never been hijacked by irate employees.

I wish all air travel was this nice, and I'm sure Congress would agree if they ever were to fly commercial...

skinink		2008-06-07 06:53:52 PM

I wish there was a better answer to airport security than everything various countries use at this point. I feel like such a homer, because I haven't flown anywhere since 9/11. I afraid the first time they pull me out of line for an "extended random search", I'll wind up in Federal prison for mouthing off at airport security.

Or maybe I'll just ship ahead as much as I can by Fedex, and only carry necessities.

Paused Broken Stop		2008-06-07 06:53:56 PM

My mistake, it was BoP he was charged with, which is a common law offence and therefore lacking a formal sentencing guide, at least beyond executive policy.

Mattyb710		2008-06-07 06:54:03 PM

Bjoennes went through the metal detector but was then stopped for a random security search.

Yeah, how random was it really? Security jerks with over inflated egos and the person they hassle is the one that has to pay the fine?

Paused Broken Stop		2008-06-07 06:58:26 PM

jshine: It's more understandable if you look at it the other way around, the £1,000 is the fine he would have been handed if he had plead not guilty and then eventually been found guilty anyway, and the £650 is the same amount, reduced as a reward for sparing the court time and the taxpayer money. It's an oft-criticised practice which is about as close as Britain can get to the American jurisprudential invention of party-party plea-bargaining.