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(CNN)   Air ambulance pilots concerned that military is getting all the night vision goggles. If only there was some portable source of artificial illumination they could use   (cnn.com ) divider line
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2008-06-05 04:47:50 PM  
If only there was some portable source of artificial illumination they could use

do you have any idea what you're talking about, smitty ?
 
2008-06-05 06:30:34 PM  
submittard: Air ambulance pilots concerned that military is getting all the night vision goggles. If only there was some portable source of artificial illumination they could use

Presumably you are referring to a source of light that illuminates everything in a sphere for hundreds of yards around the aircraft? Yeah, that's called "the sun" douchemitter, and it is notably absent when it is dark out.

/when snark is attempted by half-witted mongoloids, bad things happen.
 
2008-06-05 06:30:36 PM  
If only there was some portable source of artificial illumination they could use

It's not the lightbulb in subbys head.
 
2008-06-05 08:46:30 PM  
I see my point has already been made. Multiple times.
 
2008-06-05 08:46:44 PM  
you can crack open someone's head with a maglight. can't do that with your fancy goggles. maglight ftw
 
2008-06-05 08:46:47 PM  
I was expecting a "HURRR" at the end of this headline....
 
2008-06-05 08:47:08 PM  
Only terrorists use night vision goggles anyways.

/Sarcasm?
 
2008-06-05 08:47:25 PM  
I see my point has already been made. Multiple times.

THIS
 
2008-06-05 08:48:18 PM  
Sir Roderick Glossop: Yeah, that's called "the sun" douchemitter, and it is notably absent when it is dark out.

hahaha! Well played.

The problem with using a floodlight (assuming that's what the Submitter was referring to) is they only illuminate what they're pointing at. You miss a lot of detail when you can't see the entire terrain, much the same way you can't see that deer jumping across the road until you're practically on top of it (or it's on top of you).
 
2008-06-05 08:48:59 PM  
Experience from GTA IV, helicopters are obsolete for anything productive.

/live it
//love it
///kill hookers
 
2008-06-05 08:49:03 PM  
Global Citizen: you can crack open someone's head with a maglight. can't do that with your fancy goggles. maglight ftw

I've killed a few rats with mine.

However I'll bet a decent NVG beats a chopper mounted floodlight when flying at night.

Not that I have any idea how to fly a chopper.
 
2008-06-05 08:49:30 PM  
cunning_linguist_dc: If only there was some portable source of artificial illumination they could use

do you have any idea what you're talking about, smitty ?


Obviousy he doesn't
 
2008-06-05 08:49:35 PM  
submitter: night vision goggles. If only there was some portable source of artificial illumination they could use

yeah...subby...this "artificial illumination" stuff you speak of...if my working knowledge of things serves me correctly, "artificial illumination" would completely defeat the purpose of night vision.

Feel free to correct me if I'm wrong however. Feel free...
 
2008-06-05 08:49:41 PM  
I thought the googles...they do nothing.
 
2008-06-05 08:50:38 PM  
Serenity Now!: I see my point has already been made. Multiple times.

Profile stalking, threadjacking, apologies. Do you fly with Hortman out at KPNE?
 
2008-06-05 08:50:46 PM  
Serenity Now!: I see my point has already been made. Multiple times.

This.

-1
 
2008-06-05 08:52:15 PM  
cretinbob: Obviousy he doesn't

who says it's a he? If subby wasn't a guy...it would explain everything...as no woman could conceivably understand how night vision goggles work.

/escapes to a dark corner
 
2008-06-05 08:52:17 PM  
Sir Roderick Glossop: submittard: Air ambulance pilots concerned that military is getting all the night vision goggles. If only there was some portable source of artificial illumination they could use

Presumably you are referring to a source of light that illuminates everything in a sphere for hundreds of yards around the aircraft? Yeah, that's called "the sun" douchemitter, and it is notably absent when it is dark out.

/when snark is attempted by half-witted mongoloids, bad things happen.


I'm sure the submitter knows more about flight than the expert pilots with their huge array of knowledge. Many of them are ex-military. But, gee, I guess they never thought of a spotlight! Wow.
 
2008-06-05 08:53:11 PM  
If only there was a place that you could type in "Night Vision Goggles Buy" and find all kinds of stores that sell NVG's. Oh yeah, there is, it is called google.
 
2008-06-05 08:53:11 PM  
 
2008-06-05 08:53:40 PM  
blicero: I thought the googles...they do nothing.

It would seem they are doing something for once.
 
2008-06-05 08:54:05 PM  
Night vision and FLIR can see through FOG. It's as if it's not even there. This would allow the medflight pilots to land more safely in low visibility. It works in the daytime as well.
 
2008-06-05 08:54:05 PM  
These pilots should just use their spotlights...

/'cause vertigo is like a legal high.
 
2008-06-05 08:54:14 PM  
It has not occurred to subbitard that night vision goggle could help spot someone in the dark more more readily (using the heat seeking variety) than simply shining some light around a wooded area.
 
2008-06-05 08:54:23 PM  
'cause a flash lights's just what you want to be holding when you've got to land a critically injured person on top of a low building surrounded by high buildings in a crosswind in the middle of the night.
 
2008-06-05 08:56:38 PM  
qdaniels79: Night vision and FLIR can see through FOG. It's as if it's not even there. This would allow the medflight pilots to land more safely in low visibility. It works in the daytime as well.

Uh, no. You're thinking of radar.
 
2008-06-05 08:57:57 PM  
Fark submitter can't think of an original headline, and so uses a stupid cliche. If only there was some way for subby to be subjected to ridicule and scorn...
 
2008-06-05 08:58:53 PM  
We need a photoshop of farkers with torches and pitchforks going after stupid subbys.
 
2008-06-05 08:59:07 PM  
Wow. Not ONE comment on topic. You hold your reputation, farkers and farkettes.
 
2008-06-05 08:59:54 PM  
hey subby,

next time your ass needs an airlift somewhere for better treatment, see what exactely they have to deal with.
 
2008-06-05 09:00:05 PM  
Ed Willy: It has not occurred to subbitard that night vision goggle could help spot someone in the dark more more readily (using the heat seeking variety) than simply shining some light around a wooded area.

FTFY

/just a peeve of mine
//maybe you meant it like that?
 
2008-06-05 09:01:00 PM  
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You rang?
 
2008-06-05 09:02:22 PM  
Since dogpile on the subby is so fun, here's yet another reason "some portable source of artificial illumination" does not do the job as well as the goggles. Light gets in peoples eyes. You get a helicopter crew relying exclusively on their flood light, you'll see them ruining their ability to see anything outside the artificial light, possibly dazzling people and causing accidents, and pissing overflown residents the hell off.
 
2008-06-05 09:02:34 PM  
I guess nobody thought of trying Ebay
 
2008-06-05 09:04:26 PM  
ninjamech
Wow. Not ONE comment on topic. You hold your reputation, farkers and farkettes.

You ain't seen nothin' yet!

THIS THREAD IS USELESS WITH PICS!
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2008-06-05 09:04:59 PM  
I see two sides to this....

There are slightly less capable less expensive night vision goggles availible much less expensively. Some of the older light amplification models can be had for alot less than quoted there though are markedly less expensive than what was listed. I guess I just have a problem with the way the article was written.
 
2008-06-05 09:09:39 PM  
The U.S Military should give them some of their NVG's. I served in the Army before and I know in Iraq (and I"m sure this applies to Afghan as well) the only people who use those damn things is infantry/pilots,scouts etc. There is absolutly no need for the army to issue this things to groups like Supply, cooks, maintaince, etc, who do nothing but stay on FOB's (Forward Operating Bases). If the Military just issued them to people who needed them only then there wouldn't be such a damn shortage of them.

/Also, guards on bases need them as well but that still limits their use.
 
2008-06-05 09:09:45 PM  
Civilian pilots have no need for NVG's.
 
2008-06-05 09:09:56 PM  
Get your own damn goggles. Don't take mine.

Also unless those EMS pilots are willing to undergo intense NVG training giving them to untrained pilots is a horrible idea! Flying unaided is vastly different than aided. It takes some intense getting used to. In fact in helicopter advanced the flight with the highest number of airsick / medical downs was the first NVG hop because they make you sick as hell if you dont know how to scan properly.

Im not saying they shouldn't get nvg's everyone should have them. But i think the military needs them more than ambulance drivers. I mean i would rather have them to see someone who wants to shoot me than some dude in northern florida who is worried about hitting a telephone line.
 
2008-06-05 09:10:25 PM  
I can see it now, in a few days CNN will run a new article saying "5 year old child dies because chopper pilot couldn't fly at night because the war is using all the night vision goggles" Then they will say "Think about the children!!!"
 
2008-06-05 09:11:48 PM  
Backstory;

A couple of weeks ago MedFlight (out of Madison) crashed killing three crew (and just about the cutest doctor ever) due to CFiT* just outside LaCrosse.

Typical liberal bullshiat has to spin this into something other than pilot error (gain alt dumbshiat there is bluffs there) to martyr-ize the dead.

Thus the story, "Bush's war keeps med flight from flying safely" bullcrap. Total spin.

/Yes, I am a liberal and this bullshiat pisses me off.
// * Controlled Flight Into Terrain, i.e. same crap that killed Stevie Ray Vaughn. You gotta go OVER the hills. Durrr.
 
2008-06-05 09:13:00 PM  
godiluvbeer: submitter: night vision goggles. If only there was some portable source of artificial illumination they could use

yeah...subby...this "artificial illumination" stuff you speak of...if my working knowledge of things serves me correctly, "artificial illumination" would completely defeat the purpose of night vision.

Feel free to correct me if I'm wrong however. Feel free...


Yeah, that covered what I was going to say.
 
2008-06-05 09:15:52 PM  
If only there was some portable source of artificial illumination they could use

Yeah, but wouldn't the candles blow out because of the wind?
 
2008-06-05 09:27:26 PM  
Has anybody said submitter is an asshat because night vision goggles and spotlights work completely different from each other?
 
2008-06-05 09:32:58 PM  
Oh noes! We don't have enough NVG's for the helicopters! I don't understand... its like we're at war or something!

Oh, that's right. The military is at war. The rest of America is at the mall.
 
2008-06-05 09:33:20 PM  
Single White Male: Yeah, but wouldn't the candles blow out because of the wind?

Not if it was one of those Elton John candles.
 
2008-06-05 09:33:48 PM  
In my day, all we had was the explosions from Chinese Artillery on the 38th parallel to illuminate our medivac flights for those brave god fearing souls who bled to fight the red mennace!

Damn kids these days. Learn how to fly by instruments and read a terrain map, you spineless wimps! No one teaches the yung'uns anymore to do their homework.

/stay off my lawn
//stay off my helipad
 
2008-06-05 09:45:46 PM  
I'm here just wondering if everyone's sarcasm meter is broken or everyone that has bashed smitty has sand in their coonts tonight.

/not subby
 
2008-06-05 09:46:05 PM  
lemming42: Single White Male: Yeah, but wouldn't the candles blow out because of the wind?

Not if it was one of those Elton John candles.


Yeah, it would suck and blow at the same time.
 
2008-06-05 09:47:14 PM  
domo-kun007: Get your own damn goggles. Don't take mine.

Also unless those EMS pilots are willing to undergo intense NVG training giving them to untrained pilots is a horrible idea! Flying unaided is vastly different than aided. It takes some intense getting used to. In fact in helicopter advanced the flight with the highest number of airsick / medical downs was the first NVG hop because they make you sick as hell if you dont know how to scan properly.



Didn't they manage to get a few military pilots killed figuring out this very fact?
 
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