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(Boston Globe)   Fuel economy myths debunked: Even if you keep your windows up, your AC off, lose 50 pounds -- you're going to get the same crappy mileage   (boston.com) divider line 338
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2008-06-05 12:21:47 PM
Multi-page quiz in TFA.

DO NOT WANT!
 
2008-06-05 12:27:38 PM
The miles per gallon I get in my Olds Convertible doesn't vary much when my Big Green Buddy is riding in the back seat for the 4th of July parades either ...

www.komar.org
 
2008-06-05 12:27:50 PM
Seriously, 24 pages? I could see 2, but this is just stupid.
 
2008-06-05 12:35:14 PM
DarthBrooks: It's all about smooth aerodynamic lines, good suspension, proper inflation, and keeping things cool.

WOW. Want.

In other news, I'll take the Mythbusters over Stephanie Peters, Boston.com Correspondent any day of the week.
 
2008-06-05 12:35:55 PM
What JackRazz said.

And now DarthBrooks has made the thread actually worth visiting!
 
2008-06-05 12:36:57 PM
DarthBrooks: It's all about smooth aerodynamic lines, good suspension, proper inflation, and keeping things cool.

Who is she?
 
2008-06-05 12:38:47 PM
Fuel economy is old and busted.

New hotness is living close to work.

/fark off all of you hippies, I can drive my gas-burning 306 hp sports sedan as fast as I want because I live just a few short miles from work!
 
2008-06-05 12:39:55 PM
dj_bigbird: Who is she?

Obviously, a victim of global warming.
 
2008-06-05 12:40:59 PM
DarthBrooks: Obviously, a victim of global warming.

WANT
 
2008-06-05 12:44:32 PM
DarthBrooks: It's all about smooth aerodynamic lines, good suspension, proper inflation, and keeping things cool.

I like the headlight treatment on that model.
 
2008-06-05 12:49:37 PM
DarthBrooks:

Oh the ways in which I would hit that.

/there are many
 
2008-06-05 12:55:41 PM
Fuel economy myths debunked: Even if you keep your windows up, your AC off, and lose 50 lbs - you're going to get the same crappy mileage

The headline is false: Windows up/AC on = Windows down/AC off, but windows up/AC off does result in better mileage.

So does minimizing the weight the car has to haul.

Want to minimize your gas usage?

1. Slow the fark down. You're biatchin' about gas being $4/gallon while you blow past me doing 75+ MPH in your SUV. I don't care if you are late. That's piss-poor planning on your part, not mine.

You don't have to be a 50 MPH in a 65 MPH zone hypermiling asshole in a Toyota Priapus, but slowing down to, say, the actual farkin' speed limit might save you some cash.

2. Keep your tires inflated to the proper pressure. I mean come on, even my mechanically inept wife does this. It's not hard, and air is free (at least, it is where I go).

3. Don't use the AC unless you are about to go into heatstroke. Hell, mine busted about 90,000 miles ago. Never bothered to get it fixed because I was saving money. Even on the worse days I can just turn the cabin fan on full and just *CRACK* the window an inch, and I get enough airflow to keep me from passing out.

4. Try to buy gas that has the minimum amount of ethanol in it, preferably none. If your gas has 10% ethanol, your mileage will be about 3% less than it would be with straight gas.
 
2008-06-05 01:17:48 PM
DarthBrooks: It's all about smooth aerodynamic lines, good suspension, proper inflation, and keeping things cool.

I see you opted for the sport package.
 
2008-06-05 01:22:36 PM
edmunds.com


Aggressive Driving vs. Moderate Driving
Up to 37 percent savings, average savings of 31 percent (for moderate)

Lower Speeds Saves Gas
Up to 14 percent savings, average savings of 12 percent

Use Cruise Control
Up to 14-percent savings, average savings of 7 percent

A/C On, Windows Up vs. A/C Off, Windows Down
No measurable difference (unless you open the sunroof, too!)

Check Your Tire Pressure
No measurable effect on the vehicles we tested

Avoid Excessive Idling
Avoiding excessive idling can save up to 19 percent
 
2008-06-05 01:23:49 PM
1. Walk more often.

1b. Come on, seriously.

1c. It's less than a mile away, it won't kill you.

1d. Put some better shoes on and get going.

1e. If you're off to get a bagel, a loaf of bread, and three cans of soup, walk. Save the car for trips when you're buying something heavy or frozen.

1f. I don't care how 'ghetto' you think it looks to walk and carry a grocery bag. Buy a tote.
 
2008-06-05 01:24:54 PM
My God, can't they just put all the answers in the back? You know, like the bible?
 
2008-06-05 01:41:56 PM
DarthBrooke

you should have posted that in the Alzheimer's thread, because I've totally forgotten what this current thread is about.
 
2008-06-05 01:42:32 PM
Slow down. Get a tuneup. Drive the speed limit. No jackrabbit starts. If you have a manual, skip 2nd & 4th - it helps prevent fuel-sucking acceleration, and you're in a higher gear earlier (don't lug it though).

Added 6-8 miles a gallon for me. (Only been doing it a week, so I'm not dead sure.)
 
2008-06-05 01:42:37 PM
i'd keep it in my garage and wash it four times year!
 
2008-06-05 01:42:55 PM
Bah, all cars are going to be getting around 100mph to the ounce of H2O in a little while anyway.

Praise Jebus
 
2008-06-05 01:43:07 PM
Actually, the old urban legend was if you put your windows down to keep cool instead of running the A/C would save you money...which turned out to be the opposite. A/C with windows up uses less gas.

BTW, that picture from DarthBrooks is...AMAZING
 
2008-06-05 01:43:48 PM
3. Don't use the AC unless you are about to go into heatstroke.

Let me introduce you to South Texas summers. 100 degree temperatures, 65% humidity. I kiss the feet of the people who invented air conditioning.

You can pry my AC from my sweaty dead hands.
 
2008-06-05 01:43:58 PM
My gf disproved a gas myth for me at the beach over the weekend. Apparently, when you're shiat-faced drunk, it's not a good a idea to play with the can of gas you found on the abandoned pier.
 
2008-06-05 01:45:04 PM
24 clicks? No way!
 
2008-06-05 01:45:29 PM
tvmedia.ign.com

"Haha! We already went there!"
 
2008-06-05 01:46:07 PM
+90 degrees in the Alabama summertime, AC is a must, not an option!

/drives a civic w/ 33 mpg
//not a hybrid
///still does 70ish on interstates
 
2008-06-05 01:46:10 PM
My trusty 02 prius gets slightly lower milage in the cold months than in the warm months. I can't figure out whether it's the effect on the cold or the aero effects of the snowboard rack.
 
2008-06-05 01:47:41 PM
I officially stopped ragging on Hummer drivers this morning when I saw one hop the traffic divider in one of the Greater Boston Area's myriad retarded merge points and beat the rest of us to the wide open lanes on the other side while we wrestled with the gridlock of roadways built to handle 1920's traffic.

I actually clapped for the guy.
 
2008-06-05 01:48:13 PM
I was going to post something, but I've completely forgotten what it was now.

It was probably humorous and insightful and would have gotten a bunch of "I owe you a new keyboard" comments too. Damn you DarthBrooks!
 
2008-06-05 01:48:16 PM
Chariset: 1. Walk more often.

Not everyone lives walking distance to the storeor work or, in my case, anything but my mailbox.
 
2008-06-05 01:48:46 PM
Lt. Cheese Weasel: DarthBrooks: It's all about smooth aerodynamic lines, good suspension, proper inflation, and keeping things cool.

You're not getting any mileage outa that one unless you have some serious high maintenance bills for it.


or chloroform.
 
2008-06-05 01:49:25 PM
another myth busted--pickup trucks are designed to operate with the TAILGATES UP.

driving with the tailgate down, with them off, or with some tennis court net hanging off the back of your truck does not improve your gas mileage.

i've wanted a pickup since i was a child. i own one and i'll be damned if i let the bush administration, exxon, or anyone else deprive me of the right to own it and drive it.
 
2008-06-05 01:50:32 PM
Sue Dunham: 24 clicks? No way!

What, you on a dial-up? Your finger broken? It took you a click to get in here... do you need some water?
 
2008-06-05 01:50:40 PM
In my trip to college-town, I use up about 1/2 a tank of gas. I go about 120-125km/h on average. One time I went about 100-110 km/h and used up 1/4 a tank of gas.

You do the math, Mr. Acura-Integra-With-Shiatty-Soupcan-Exhaust. Wasting $15-$20 a tank to save 5 minutes? I guess that's the same thought logic that helps make the decision to keep that annoying rattling high-pitched exhaust on there because it sounds sooo good.

/No, I'm not an old man.
 
2008-06-05 01:50:44 PM
Nothing mentioned was really news to me. I do wish I had that episode of Mythbusters on my computer (the tailgate issue one) so I could burn it to 50 DVDs and put them under the wiperblade of every truck I see in the parkinglot with their tailgates down (exception for those who's tailgates are down because they are hauling stuff), and for those with that netted tailgate.
 
2008-06-05 01:51:14 PM
dittybopper: 3. Don't use the AC unless you are about to go into heatstroke. Hell, mine busted about 90,000 miles ago. Never bothered to get it fixed because I was saving money. Even on the worse days I can just turn the cabin fan on full and just *CRACK* the window an inch, and I get enough airflow to keep me from passing out.

Do you steal the silverware at restaurants and split your 2 ply toilet paper too?
 
2008-06-05 01:51:22 PM
But I've been turning off and restarting my car in rush hour traffic for like a week now! You're saying that isn't helping???
 
2008-06-05 01:51:28 PM
Dubya's_Coke_Dealer: Slow down. Get a tuneup. Drive the speed limit. No jackrabbit starts. If you have a manual, skip 2nd & 4th - it helps prevent fuel-sucking acceleration, and you're in a higher gear earlier (don't lug it though).

Added 6-8 miles a gallon for me. (Only been doing it a week, so I'm not dead sure.)


i always thought it was avoid 1st gear

of course, you'll do wonders to shift sooner and drive slower too instead of revving it up to 3000rpm like some friends of mine do

also where i live i HAVE to have AC on, it gets very hot and very very humid here if you don't have AC on you'll pass out
 
2008-06-05 01:52:06 PM
recoil: 3. Don't use the AC unless you are about to go into heatstroke.

Let me introduce you to South Texas summers. 100 degree temperatures, 65% humidity. I kiss the feet of the people who invented air conditioning.

South Texas? Summers? Hell, I was just in North Texas for a week on business and it was pushing upper 90's and 90% RH (of course I got to spend time on the roof where it was measuring 115F, but only 50% RH - is that a dry heat?). I tell you, that state is just not right.

/Efficient air conditioning designer for big facilities (100 million kWh/yr+)
//They don't kiss my feet, but they pay well enough I could afford to get a specialist for that service
 
2008-06-05 01:52:39 PM
If gas is too expensive, why don't you get a job that pays well?

Duh!
 
2008-06-05 01:52:45 PM
Since beer is cheaper than gas I just keep drinking until I feel like I am at my destination
 
2008-06-05 01:53:08 PM
You heard about the 3 brothers who invented auto air conditioning, Herman, Max and Norman Campbell. They sold it to Henry Ford with the priviso that at least one of their names appear on every automobile air conditioners.

To this day, at least one of their names appears but frequently, all 3 still appear. Norm, Hi and Max.
 
2008-06-05 01:53:08 PM
You can also uglify your civic with aerodynamic mods
 
2008-06-05 01:53:33 PM
GBmanNC: dittybopper: 3. Don't use the AC unless you are about to go into heatstroke. Hell, mine busted about 90,000 miles ago. Never bothered to get it fixed because I was saving money. Even on the worse days I can just turn the cabin fan on full and just *CRACK* the window an inch, and I get enough airflow to keep me from passing out.

Do you steal the silverware at restaurants and split your 2 ply toilet paper too?


He can't spare a square!
 
2008-06-05 01:53:54 PM
Fun fact: my Celica GT convertible gets about 10% better mileage with the top down. I don't know if other softtops behave similarly, but this week I've been getting 30-31 mpg rather than the 27 I hit regularly.

// fark the AC
 
2008-06-05 01:55:22 PM
I am idling my van as I type this.
So I am getting a kick out of these posts

/Company van so I don't pay for gas
//Gets 10 mpg on a good day
 
2008-06-05 01:55:57 PM
SwallowTheKnife: In my trip to college-town, I use up about 1/2 a tank of gas. I go about 120-125km/h on average. One time I went about 100-110 km/h and used up 1/4 a tank of gas.

You do the math, Mr. Acura-Integra-With-Shiatty-Soupcan-Exhaust. Wasting $15-$20 a tank to save 5 minutes? I guess that's the same thought logic that helps make the decision to keep that annoying rattling high-pitched exhaust on there because it sounds sooo good.

/No, I'm not an old man.


I get about 6 mpg more at 80 than I do at 70. But then again my car doesn't suck.
 
2008-06-05 01:56:10 PM
Normally, I am an "aggressive" driver.

Because of gas prices, I decided to baby my 3.5L Maxima (6 speed manual transmission) on the last tank of gas to see what would happen to my mileage. I put in the clutch and coasted as often as possible. (I can coast the last mile to my house, all the way into the garage.) I made slow starts from lights. I skipped gears while shifting up. I drove very reasonable speeds. I never downshifted to use engine braking on curves. All of this was city driving, with no freeway driving at all.

I got 18.5 miles per gallon, which was no improvement at all. In fact, it was a little less than my normal mileage, but that slight reduction is probably because I never got on the freeway that week. My car computer says my normal average is 21.6 mpg. I admit this was the first week it got really hot outside.

Now I'm back to my old driving style, and will see what happens on this tank.
 
2008-06-05 01:56:58 PM
A fuel saving tip that I have found to work is to cut holes in the floorboard and use your feet to accelerate. The downside is an uncontrollable impulse to scream 'yabba dabba doo' everywhere you go.
 
2008-06-05 01:57:08 PM
BobtheFascist: DarthBrooks: It's all about smooth aerodynamic lines, good suspension, proper inflation, and keeping things cool.

I see you opted for the sport package.


Nah... with those airbags, she's built for comfort and safety.

THIS is the sport package:
cache.bordom.net
 
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