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(CBS News)   The generation that "always won a trophy, win or lose" and were coddled by their parents are now entering the workforce. Corporate America: "Oh %$#@..."   ( cbsnews.com) divider line
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2008-06-03 02:19:26 PM  
We had an intern last year who used to brag about how she'd be making six figures right out of college.

She's gone through three entry-level jobs since she graduated, and this week she came back begging for a job.

She was told "no" and there was much rejoicing. Now she can go to Sizzler and make six figures -- assuming we're including both sides of the decimal point.
 
2008-06-03 02:23:31 PM  
That funny I only got trophies when I won and I am part of this group.
 
2008-06-03 02:25:35 PM  
They are young adults and have been coddled by their parents to the point of being ill prepared for a demanding workplace. Morley Safer reports on the generation called "Millenials."

I'm in this generation and I don't know ANY people who've been coddled to the point of being ill prepared for a demanding workplace. I know some people who prefer to not let work become their life and will not take jobs that require 60+ work weeks, but that's not really the same.
 
2008-06-03 02:27:12 PM  
Young folks have seemed aghast at the notion that they may be fired for not doing their jobs.
 
2008-06-03 02:27:41 PM  
Hmmm. Funny. My workplace's idjits are all of the Baby Boomer persuasion.
 
2008-06-03 02:32:05 PM  
Only way you are making six figures out of undergrad is if you have an engineering degree.
 
2008-06-03 02:33:34 PM  
Gunny Highway: That funny I only got trophies when I won and I am part of this group.

Evidently not for punctuation.
 
2008-06-03 02:41:23 PM  
I wonder about all these workplaces that are filled by these clueless, helpless "millenials".

I think it speaks worse of the Boomers who are hiring worthless pieces of shiat who are unqualified for the job than it does the worthless pieces of shiat who are unqualified for the job.
 
2008-06-03 02:42:07 PM  
i definitely think that...

1. dress code should be up to the employer. they started the company, they should run it how they have envisioned, and the employees should respect that.

2. work ethic is not being taught to many of the younger generations. especially in the school system. "we don't wanna write the F in red ink cause it might hurt their feelings. we don't wanna let them play kickball cause they might not get picked. we should raise the passing grade level so more children pass and aren't discouraged. etc...".

granted, work ethic is more of a responsibility of the parents than the schools, but the schools aren't helping.
 
2008-06-03 02:42:26 PM  
How come almost everyone I directly work with are from my generation yet are 10x more competent than the dinosaurs that contacts us?

Oh I understand. We are just on their lawns.
 
2008-06-03 02:42:56 PM  
cheshirecatsmileyface: They are young adults and have been coddled by their parents to the point of being ill prepared for a demanding workplace. Morley Safer reports on the generation called "Millenials."

I'm in this generation and I don't know ANY people who've been coddled to the point of being ill prepared for a demanding workplace. I know some people who prefer to not let work become their life and will not take jobs that require 60+ work weeks, but that's not really the same.


I know plenty. Have friends who seem unable to create resumes or get jobs. however, I know lots more who are plenty prepared for the workforce, for life, etc, but are just quieter about it. They don't want demanding jobs, they're happy to have a life. Or they're looking for jobs in a career they actually like and aren't willing to sacrifice that.
 
2008-06-03 02:43:29 PM  
I work with college students.

I can't tell you how farked you all are.
 
2008-06-03 02:45:56 PM  
tgregory: i definitely think that...

1. dress code should be up to the employer. they started the company, they should run it how they have envisioned, and the employees should respect that.

2. work ethic is not being taught to many of the younger generations. especially in the school system. "we don't wanna write the F in red ink cause it might hurt their feelings. we don't wanna let them play kickball cause they might not get picked. we should raise the passing grade level so more children pass and aren't discouraged. etc...".

granted, work ethic is more of a responsibility of the parents than the schools, but the schools aren't helping.


1) I couldnt agree with you more.

2) School has no bearing. I resented school and disliked doing work. So I did terrible.

As soon as someone pays me to do work however... thats a different ballgame and I will always step up and do a good job.
 
2008-06-03 02:47:01 PM  
EdMon: ... dinosaurs that contacts us?

No farking idea...
 
2008-06-03 02:48:21 PM  
OlafTheBent: EdMon: ... dinosaurs that contacts us?

No farking idea...



contracts

ohh the irony..
 
2008-06-03 02:48:57 PM  
dahmers love zombie: Gunny Highway: That funny I only got trophies when I won and I am part of this group.

Evidently not for punctuation.


Nope. I never got any awards for academic achievement.

I feel cheated. I want a losers trophy.
 
2008-06-03 02:50:23 PM  
Yeah "non-technical" upper management is a bigger problem than whiny Millennial at my company.

Whiny millennials can be taught to function better, they're young. When you try to teach an "old dog" non-techie upper manager, you get fired or a bad review at best... and they still screw up the tech.
 
2008-06-03 02:51:20 PM  
Cool, anything that makes me look better in comparison in case I need to go there.

/avoids corporate America
 
KIA
2008-06-03 02:57:10 PM  
The good news is the disaffected will probably migrate to radical or revolutionary groups. The bad news is they might actually do something with them.
 
2008-06-03 02:59:41 PM  
Isn't this like saying boomers, who were all spoiled and drug-addled drop-outs, are entering the work force? Or Gen-Xers, who are all depressed slackers, are entering the work force?
 
2008-06-03 03:02:49 PM  
As a member of this generation I would like to thank all those who proceeded us as we save your ass from three collective generations of terrible decision making. Not that we would have made the right choice if we were in your shoes. You just reduced it to an existential choice.

/Thanx brb
 
2008-06-03 03:20:42 PM  
cheshirecatsmileyface: I'm in this generation and I don't know ANY people who've been coddled to the point of being ill prepared for a demanding workplace. I know some people who prefer to not let work become their life and will not take jobs that require 60+ work weeks, but that's not really the same.

This. I'd be shocked if no other generation ever had to accelerate their maturation at that stage of their lives.

Can submitter take Bitter Old Farts for $1,000, Alex?
 
2008-06-03 03:24:30 PM  
We didn't get trophies for losing, we got lame certificates, and everybody knew that if all you ended up with was the 'participation' certificate, you were a farking loser.
 
2008-06-03 03:30:32 PM  
I have no problem with this. Less competition that's qualified. Works for me.
 
2008-06-03 03:33:18 PM  
pnjunction: We didn't get trophies for losing, we got lame certificates, and everybody knew that if all you ended up with was the 'participation' certificate, you were a farking loser.

exactly, I think all the stupid "trophies for the losers too" taught us was that people in authority are not to be trusted and watch out for those losers in life cause you're going to be stuck with them forever.
 
2008-06-03 03:42:24 PM  
Who decided to hand out the 'participation awards' anyway? Surely it wasnt the kids who were getting them.
 
2008-06-03 03:56:47 PM  
I work with quite a few people that are around my age and we're all motivated and willing to get the job done. Everyone in my department is that way no matter the age. It makes me very proud of my company. My last job at an ISP, everyone my age was hard working. The guys(it was tech support, female techs were rare) that were in their 30's and 40's who were obviously at a dead end job were the ones always screwing up.

The one thing I've noticed that is getting terrible at companys? HR and Accounting. I think that's where the people with useless BA's end up.
 
2008-06-03 03:57:55 PM  
Their idealistic souls will be crushed within a year of entering the workforce just like everyone else in history
 
2008-06-03 04:01:29 PM  
b2theory: As a member of this generation I would like to thank all those who proceeded us as we save your ass from three collective generations of terrible decision making. Not that we would have made the right choice if we were in your shoes. You just reduced it to an existential choice.

/Thanx brb


FAIL.

You prove the point of the article.
 
2008-06-03 04:08:51 PM  
letdogsvote:

FAIL.

You prove the point of the article.


How? I have witnessed two decades of conspicuous consumption for people of both political parties and an absolute willingness to deal with energy, environmental, and the social security/medicare crisis. They openly acknowledge that my age group is going to be the one to pay for it with a 70 percent tax increase. How am I wrong?
 
2008-06-03 04:09:24 PM  
letdogsvote: b2theory: As a member of this generation I would like to thank all those who proceeded us as we save your ass from three collective generations of terrible decision making. Not that we would have made the right choice if we were in your shoes. You just reduced it to an existential choice.

/Thanx brb

FAIL.

You prove the point of the article.



there was a point to the article?
 
2008-06-03 04:17:23 PM  
I think these fears are overblown in the macro sense, but in the micro sense, it's not inconceivable.

The fact that people want a work-life balance is not unreasonable. Now, that may mean that you have to work more on certain days to acheive that, or perhaps take less pay...whatever. But again, it all comes down to results. If you're producing them, I think you earn a little carte blanche. It's up to the employer, plain and simple.
 
2008-06-03 04:22:24 PM  
I put the blame squarely on the backs of the Baby Boomers. :P
 
2008-06-03 04:37:56 PM  
tbn0.google.com


Just as it was with the killer bees, the super-efficient Japanese, and robots taking over our jobs, I say meh.


We'll adapt (people and/or companies) or we'll die. Same as always.
 
2008-06-03 04:39:10 PM  
They said that about the class of 84.

1884
 
2008-06-03 05:01:03 PM  
I guess there's this massive group of snowflakes out there somewhere but, in my experience, this new generation entering the workforce are pretty diligent for the most part, and anxious to learn and get things right. There are definitely duds out there but I think that's been the case with pretty much every generation. I guess my take is this - meet the new crowd, same as the old crowd, and someday they'll be the old crowd saying this shiat about the new crowd, who are presently the still shiating in their pants crowd, which is interesting because that's the crowd that the old crowd is about to become again in a few years. So, basically, no matter what happens in the middle, we're all going to start and end life covered in our own shiat.
 
2008-06-03 05:16:05 PM  
Doctor Funkenstein: I....meet the new crowd, same as the old crowd, and someday they'll be the old crowd saying this shiat about the new crowd...

Well, I used to be with it. Then someone changed what it was. And now what I'm with ain't it. And what *is* it frightens and confuses me. And you know what....this will happen to *YOU*.......
 
2008-06-03 05:47:07 PM  
Mr. Coffee Nerves: We had an intern last year who used to brag about how she'd be making six figures right out of college.

I make a six figure salary...in pesos
 
2008-06-03 05:47:14 PM  
So I have 4 kids, and EVERY season (Baseball 2x a year, basketball, etc) they want to give the kids a participation trophy. I always decline and the 'team mom' looks at me like I'm the farkin devil. I've had at least two order the trophies anyway and mail them to us.

Around the house, we call them 'loser trophies'.
 
2008-06-03 05:47:38 PM  
In other news, the media and people bitter about getting old have manufactured another bullshiat name and image so they can pretend they have a valid reason to hate the young.
 
2008-06-03 05:48:13 PM  
Here's a ribbon for participating. Wear it to the unemployment office.
 
2008-06-03 05:48:20 PM  
Ugh, video. Warn me.
 
2008-06-03 05:48:47 PM  
Cagey B: Hmmm. Funny. My workplace's idjits are all of the Baby Boomer persuasion.

THIS.
 
2008-06-03 05:49:12 PM  
This just in: People ALWAYS think the generations behind them are dumber and lazier. When there's a generation that DOESN'T think that, we'll have a real story.

From what I've seen, this generation is no different from any other, except that they have been subject to FAR greater demands than previous generations. Life is infinitely more complex now than it has ever been, and these people are growing up in that complex environment. Some have risen to the challenge, some haven't. Big deal.
 
2008-06-03 05:49:34 PM  
It's not news, it's generational BS.
 
2008-06-03 05:49:53 PM  
Gunny Highway: That funny I only got trophies when I won and I am part of this group.

ditto

Don't rule this generation out. I know so many people who are floating from entry level to entry level, but then I know so many who have had one job since graduation and are working hard and are quite successful. Some parents actually did a good job.
 
2008-06-03 05:50:54 PM  
The only trophy I won is atrophy.
 
2008-06-03 05:50:59 PM  
KaponoFor3: Only way you are making six figures out of undergrad is if you have an engineering degree.

And get hired by a company too stupid to realize that most of your classmates would be more than happy to do the same job for $70k/year and some free Pepsi.
 
2008-06-03 05:51:08 PM  
"Around the house, we call them 'loser trophies'."

haha. funny shiat right there.
 
2008-06-03 05:51:34 PM  
Doctor Funkenstein: I guess there's this massive group of snowflakes out there somewhere but, in my experience, this new generation entering the workforce are pretty diligent for the most part, and anxious to learn and get things right.

The last group of co-ops and interns we had here were great. They worked hard and late and they did good work. I have no idea where this article is coming from. Old people just need a reason to biatch and moan I suppose.
 
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