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(USA Today)   It takes them a while, but some Americans are starting to learn that maybe, possibly, in a roundabout sort of way, living in a hurricane zone might not be the best idea   (usatoday.com) divider line 194
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2008-05-30 08:38:34 AM
But remember, you're a racist if you'd rather your tax money help people move to higher ground instead of living below sea level with a giant river on one side and the Gulf on the other.
 
2008-05-30 08:45:43 AM
I think George Carlin already covered this.
 
2008-05-30 08:54:41 AM
Gulper Eel: But remember, you're a racist if you'd rather your tax money help people move to higher ground instead of living below sea level with a giant river on one side and the Gulf on the other.

I'd rather my tax money not help anybody move, thankyouverymuch.
 
2008-05-30 09:07:29 AM
ThatGuyGreg: Gulper Eel: But remember, you're a racist if you'd rather your tax money help people move to higher ground instead of living below sea level with a giant river on one side and the Gulf on the other.

I'd rather my tax money not help anybody move, thankyouverymuch.


Oh, then you'll definitely be considered a racist. Not wanting your money to be spent to solve other peoples' self-created problems. For shame.

More on topic: So where should people live? I move from FL to...the Midwest? Sudden shrieking killer tornadoes. West coast? Gonna fall into the ocean. Up north? Blizzards, floods, Canadians. A cave somewhere? Bat poo.

I'll take my chances with big slow-moving storms that I can see coming days away, thank you very much.
 
2008-05-30 09:13:06 AM
ThatGuyGreg: I'd rather my tax money not help anybody move, thankyouverymuch.

Sure beats bailing them out again and again and again and...
 
2008-05-30 09:31:51 AM
dahmers love zombie: Oh, then you'll definitely be considered a racist. Not wanting your money to be spent to solve other peoples' self-created problems. For shame.

I was born in a hurricane zone. Everything I know and care about is here in a hurricane zone. This problem is not self created. I did not move here, I did not create hurricanes, I did not create this problem.

This line of thinking, shared by many, is just plain stupid.

/A caveat to my statement; I know (or at least I am pretty sure) that this isn't your opinion.
 
2008-05-30 09:32:29 AM
Gulper Eel: ThatGuyGreg: I'd rather my tax money not help anybody move, thankyouverymuch.

Sure beats bailing them out again and again and again and...


Where do you live? Just a general ball park area will suffice...
 
2008-05-30 09:47:23 AM
dahmers love zombie: Midwest? Sudden shrieking killer tornadoes. West coast? Gonna fall into the ocean. Up north? Blizzards, floods, Canadians.

Tornado's are scary yes, but they affect only small areas when they do hit.

As for up north Where I live. If you do any basic prep work and are not an idiot you will survive a blizzard just fine. Have plenty of AA and AAA batteries, some blankets and basic foodstuff and things will be OK. As for floods, after the 1997 flood we wised up and moved the dikes back to give the river some room. We bulldozed entire neighborhoods that were too close to be saved, something that New Orleans refuses to do despite the fact that it is the only realistic option. (BTW, when we saw that the SHTF we GTFO of town. We didn't wait for the Fed to come bail our sorry butts out.) So now we are much better prepared.
 
2008-05-30 09:49:54 AM
My guess is that the increasing insurance prices are causing them to move more than any Pavlovian response to getting smacked repeatedly by hurricanes.
 
2008-05-30 09:52:15 AM
MrKraclenutz: Gulper Eel: ThatGuyGreg: I'd rather my tax money not help anybody move, thankyouverymuch.

Sure beats bailing them out again and again and again and...

Where do you live? Just a general ball park area will suffice...


Him? Me? Me? Him?

blogs.eurielec.etsit.upm.es
 
2008-05-30 09:52:59 AM
SchlingFo: My guess is that the increasing insurance prices are causing them to move more than any Pavlovian response to getting smacked repeatedly by hurricanes.

Isn't Capitalism great. Once again the market will sort things out. Government just screws it up more. (Like paying people to repeatedly rebuild properties that get destroyed because of location.)
 
2008-05-30 09:56:42 AM
Crosshair: Isn't Capitalism great. Once again the market will sort things out.

Yup, I'd say that Capitalism is good for 99% of the problems we have here in the U.S. :)
 
2008-05-30 09:56:42 AM
MrKraclenutz: I was born in a hurricane zone. Everything I know and care about is here in a hurricane zone. This problem is not self created. I did not move here, I did not create hurricanes, I did not create this problem.

This line of thinking, shared by many, is just plain stupid.


I'm directing my comments mainly at people in the New Orleans area, who are in a situation that's geographically unique: big-ass river on one side, Gulf of Mexico on the other, and lots of it below sea level and sinking - where instead of providing people with a way out to start over in a more sustainable place, we're throwing money at more of the same old hack non-solutions.

If you're living someplace like Florida, it's one thing to have to anticipate and insure for just a hurricane. If you've got the scratch to stay there, go for it.
 
2008-05-30 09:59:33 AM
The amount of houses and condos going up on the West end of Galveston island is mind-blowing. On the very west end, there are million+ houses and countless expensive condos sitting on foundations that are *TWO* feet or less above normal high-tide. A *weak* and *nearby* (not even direct) tropical storm will put water in these people's driveways. One hit from a cat-3 hurricane on that end of the island, and there will not be as much as a toothpick-worth of wood left down there. Also, there are people building neighborhoods on top of intercoastal waterway dredge material in west bay. I'm curious to know who will pay for it when these people lose their expensive *permanent* residence....are we helping pay their insurance now?
 
2008-05-30 10:02:33 AM
Hey we could give the land to the Indians from a few threads down!
 
2008-05-30 10:03:51 AM
nawlins can handle their liquor, but not their cat 5 hurricanes. though homestead, fl didn't fair too well in andrew. wasn't much out there then, anyway. but, in a manner of speaking, most of the houses built around or before the 60's have seen worse.
 
2008-05-30 10:04:26 AM
Nagin better get off is A$$ and do something about it before it happens then.
 
2008-05-30 10:04:27 AM
dahmers love zombie: Up north? Blizzards, floods, Canadians.

AND tornadoes.

But seriously, tornadoes aren't the threat that hurricanes are. They're lightning strike rarities. Yeah, they do damage, but so do collapsing cranes in the middle of NYC. Shiat happens. With hurricanes, when they come through everything in a 200 mile swath is getting farked up.
 
2008-05-30 10:06:23 AM
As long as they don't move too far north, I'm happy about this.
/we don't want those kinds of people up here
//by "those" I mean southerners
 
2008-05-30 10:07:14 AM
Yeah, but how many hot Brazilian whores are you going to find in Wichita, subby?


/south Florida
//married
///no Brazilian whores for me :(
 
2008-05-30 10:07:37 AM
This thread blows.

/gulf coast native
//moved to avoid the heat, not the hurricanes
///rode many a hurricano out, pretty impressive stuff
 
2008-05-30 10:08:27 AM
wallytacker: As long as they don't move too far north, I'm happy about this.
/we don't want those kinds of people up here
//by "those" I mean southerners


Too late, Yankee douche. My trailer is on cement blocks, I'm here to stay.
 
2008-05-30 10:09:26 AM
I call bullshiat, its not specifically hurricane zones causing this.

Every area of the country has its share of natural disasters, tornados, earthquakes etc.

Hurricanes are the one deviant natural disaster which causes either wind damage, or flood damage. A lot of residents don't realize you need both coverage. Not to mention insurance companies are NOTORIOUS for looking for loopholes to get out of paying on hurricane claims which they don't normally do for the more straightforward disasters.

So blame scummy insurance companies, not the disaster itself, on people not wanting to risk living there.
 
2008-05-30 10:09:33 AM
Interesting. It looks like Brownsville has moved north and replaced Corpus Christi. Must have missed the memo.
 
2008-05-30 10:09:54 AM
Everyone laughed when I told them I was going to invent a weather machine.

Who's laughing now?

Today the lower east coast! TOMORROW THE WORLD!!!!
 
2008-05-30 10:09:56 AM
MrKraclenutz:

I was born in a hurricane zone. Everything I know and care about is here in a hurricane zone. This problem is not self created. I did not move here, I did not create hurricanes, I did not create this problem.

www.charlestoncounty.org

easy fix: GTFO

/ Sam Kinison covered this also
 
2008-05-30 10:10:30 AM
uh huh. that's why the map shows the popluation in the coastal counties of florida is increasing. there's a decline in population around new orleans, but we already knew about that.

in sum: the headline - meh. the article - whatever.
 
2008-05-30 10:11:19 AM
Meh. There are natural risks anywhere you go, so using that logic, it isn't the best idea to live anywhere. You have ice storms, you have tornadoes, you have volcanoes, earthquakes, hurricanes, etc.
 
2008-05-30 10:11:26 AM
Guysmiley: dahmers love zombie: Up north? Blizzards, floods, Canadians.

AND tornadoes.

But seriously, tornadoes aren't the threat that hurricanes are. They're lightning strike rarities. Yeah, they do damage, but so do collapsing cranes in the middle of NYC. Shiat happens. With hurricanes, when they come through everything in a 200 mile swath is getting farked up.


Exactly. I live in Tornado Alley here in OK. I know people who have had barns blow over, or a little damage to roofs/windows from flying objects, but I have never personally known anyone to be killed or injured.
Tornado's are pretty rare, and rarely do any damage at all. I have seen a statistic of how many tornado's are produced each year vs how many hit populated area's, and it was extremely low (something like 5% total). Google is failing me now, so no linky.
 
2008-05-30 10:11:59 AM
Hawnkee:

Nagin better get off is A$$ and do something about it before it happens then give me all that free shiat he promised.

www.lizandmarc.com

/ FTFY
 
2008-05-30 10:12:17 AM
wallytacker: As long as they don't move too far north, I'm happy about this.
/we don't want those kinds of people up here
//by "those" I mean southerners


Rest assured that I will stay in my beach house. But may we please send some of "those (transplanted) people" back to you?

/not all
//just the whiny ones
 
2008-05-30 10:12:26 AM
Since when does fark sell popup ads??

No, I don't want to take a survey and in fact, the unobtrusive ads were one of the main reasons I came to fark for nearly 10 years.

Now this is the second user ID I am forced to retire and it looks like it's goodbye forever.

So long, Drew...and thanks for all the fish! Sincerely.
 
2008-05-30 10:13:46 AM
dahmers love zombie: ThatGuyGreg: Gulper Eel: But remember, you're a racist if you'd rather your tax money help people move to higher ground instead of living below sea level with a giant river on one side and the Gulf on the other.

I'd rather my tax money not help anybody move, thankyouverymuch.

Oh, then you'll definitely be considered a racist. Not wanting your money to be spent to solve other peoples' self-created problems. For shame.

More on topic: So where should people live? I move from FL to...the Midwest? Sudden shrieking killer tornadoes. West coast? Gonna fall into the ocean. Up north? Blizzards, floods, Canadians. A cave somewhere? Bat poo.

I'll take my chances with big slow-moving storms that I can see coming days away, thank you very much.


THIS. Hurricanes are wind, rain, and water. You have time to prepare.

But if it keeps more people from moving to FL, hey, that's fine with me.
 
2008-05-30 10:13:51 AM
One state did the opposite, can you guess which one?

here's a hint

adirolf
 
2008-05-30 10:14:40 AM
ThatGuyGreg: Gulper Eel: But remember, you're a racist if you'd rather your tax money help people move to higher ground instead of living below sea level with a giant river on one side and the Gulf on the other.

I'd rather my tax money not help anybody move, thankyouverymuch.


Ditto
 
2008-05-30 10:16:44 AM
Captain Obvious: Since when does fark sell popup ads??

Firefox + AdBlock Plus = WIN
 
2008-05-30 10:17:39 AM
If you think the hurricanes are bad, try interacting with a Haitian some time.
 
2008-05-30 10:18:25 AM
Guysmiley: dahmers love zombie: Up north? Blizzards, floods, Canadians.

AND tornadoes.

But seriously, tornadoes aren't the threat that hurricanes are. They're lightning strike rarities. Yeah, they do damage, but so do collapsing cranes in the middle of NYC. Shiat happens. With hurricanes, when they come through everything in a 200 mile swath is getting farked up.


hurricanes have tornadoes, too. that's what farked broward during wilma. my parents' house was the only one not hit on the block.
but anywho, a 200 mile radius is a bit of an exaggeration. maybe during francis of 2004, but that's pushing it.

further two cents: it's not the storm that worries me. it's the panic before and afterwards that's the most dangerous. most especially by recently emigrated "northerners."
 
2008-05-30 10:18:38 AM
veedeevadeevoodee: Firefox + AdBlock Plus = WIN

I don't even use the adblock plus, and firefox is the shizzle against popups.
 
2008-05-30 10:18:40 AM
Captain Obvious
Since when does fark sell popup ads??

No, I don't want to take a survey and in fact, the unobtrusive ads were one of the main reasons I came to fark for nearly 10 years.

Now this is the second user ID I am forced to retire and it looks like it's goodbye forever.

So long, Drew...and thanks for all the fish! Sincerely


Lots of caffeine today?
 
2008-05-30 10:19:10 AM
veedeevadeevoodee: Firefox + AdBlock Plus = WIN


THIS.


Christ, the ads are getting bad here. Too bad I can't use Adblock or Firefox at work.

/extra IE windows to upload images FTL
//tabbed adblocked browsing FTW
 
2008-05-30 10:19:30 AM
I don't recall Sam Kinison covering hurricanes...

I recall a rant on deserts....

"MOVE WHERE THE FOOD IS"
 
2008-05-30 10:19:55 AM
veedeevadeevoodee: Captain Obvious: Since when does fark sell popup ads??

Firefox + AdBlock Plus = WIN


What pop-ups?

The only pop-ups I got today were in the Swedish Lesbian thread.
 
2008-05-30 10:20:29 AM
This may surprise some people, but hurricane zones are fairly important, economically. The Gulf Coast is the location of many of our busiest sea ports.

And I definitely haven't noticed a reduction in population in Houston. Granted, most development is on the North and West sides of town, but there hasn't been any kind of mass exodus from those areas near the Gulf.

Look, all areas of the world are at risk from some potential catastrophe. It's just a risk we take in life. Every time you drive your car, there is a small chance you will be injured or killed. I don't have a problem with my tax money going to save your life, because your risk was rational.

It's the same with natural disasters. People everywhere have a small chance of losing their homes and lives in hurricanes, tornadoes, earthquakes, whatever. But it's a cost of doing business. We're all better off, economically, if we help rebuild when it happens.

This stupid "don't rebuild New Orleans; people shouldn't live on the coast" shiat is potentially destructive to the economy. I agree that people should have insurance to cover this, but some people can't afford it. With New Orleans, many didn't have flood insurance because they were told the levees would hold. If they can't rebuild their homes, or if businesses need government grants to get going, I'm fine with that.

Just hope your shiat city is never hurt and you lose your home. You might have to look critically at your dumbass belief systems.
 
2008-05-30 10:20:38 AM
cubsfan07: If you think the hurricanes are bad, try interacting with a Haitian some time.

my best friend is haitian. they are generally hard working people. congrats, you've made my shiat list.

/i know it's a joke
//but it wasn't funny
 
2008-05-30 10:21:27 AM
SchlingFo: My guess is that the increasing insurance prices are causing them to move more than any Pavlovian response to getting smacked repeatedly by hurricanes.

This

When Hurricane Insurance almost doubles your mortgage payment (for escrow purposes, there's something wrong. And any home in Florida that you'd want to move into (i.e. within sight of the water), Insurance companies won't touch. If I'm going to buy a tract home in the hills, it doesn't need to be in Florida.

Also the problem with hurricanes isn't so much the storm itself, but the panic leading up to it (No gas available for 48 hours leading up to a storm's landfall) and the slow recovery afterwards (2 weeks to restore power, stores not restocking vital supplies, etc.)
 
2008-05-30 10:22:33 AM
cubsfan07: veedeevadeevoodee: Firefox + AdBlock Plus = WIN


THIS.


Christ, the ads are getting bad here. Too bad I can't use Adblock or Firefox at work.

/extra IE windows to upload images FTL
//tabbed adblocked browsing FTW


I'm alright with the ads as long as they involve Kat von D's tits in some way.

/hot? yes. man voice? yes.
 
2008-05-30 10:23:23 AM
So are we going to all vacate the Eastern Seaboard of the U.S.?

That should be interesting.
 
2008-05-30 10:23:23 AM
I say you let people live where they want to live and have Drawin take care of the rest.
 
2008-05-30 10:23:50 AM
Arent they expecting a Super Volcano to erupt in the California region soon, or is that Jellystone National Park? I think avoiding the edges of techtonic plates is quite a good idea as well when considering living arrangements.
 
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