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2008-05-21 09:00:24 AM  
dude3129: First, let me say an Obama presidency will do more to help race relations in American than probably anything else since the abolition of slavery. But, I'm sorry, it's not going to matter.


This is a good point.


But I hope certain members of the America's African American community remembers McKinnon's gesture while they are deciding whether or not to riot in the streets because Barack lost. More importantly, when Barack doesn't win and goes on TV and is shows he's a very poor loser and starts whining because he didn't get into the white house.

/just you wait, it'll happen


This is idiocy to the nth degree. I'm not saying riots wont happen, but I don't see where you get the idea that Obama is somehow a poor loser. NOTHING so far suggests that.
 
2008-05-21 09:06:30 AM  
What the article doesn't say is that he only quit after McCain rejected his all-blackface presidential campaign.

/keedink
 
2008-05-21 09:17:26 AM  
Empty Signal Gray: Obaaaaammmmmaaaa...He poops sunshine, burps Beethoven and sweats the sweetest honey. He can cure cancer with a mere glance. If you're ever blessed enough to touch him, you'll never know sorrow again. I have glimped God himself, and He is called Barack.

And don't you forget it buddy.
 
2008-05-21 09:20:47 AM  
Rather than campaign against Obama? lol


The republicans have this presidential campaign in the bag. The sad thing is, if the democrats had considered running someone remotely normal (say a John Kerry or an Al Gore), they might have been a sure thing.

Now this is just a circus that's gone on way to long.
 
2008-05-21 09:37:39 AM  
what? no, thats the real story. or, like the rest of GOP leadership, he's a coward.
 
2008-05-21 09:40:36 AM  
Captain Obvious Quote 2008-05-21 09:20:47 AM


Rather than campaign against Obama? lol


The republicans have this presidential campaign in the bag. The sad thing is, if the democrats had considered running someone remotely normal (say a John Kerry or an Al Gore), they might have been a sure thing.

Now this is just a circus that's gone on way to long.


I think you're right, the dems who believe in ObamaClaus are gonna get coal in their stockings in November. But I still think his campaign has been remarkable and he has done a decent job weathering the storm so far. He's only made a few slip ups like the "guns and religion" comment that sort of opened the skirt for everyone to see his ivory-tower liberal legs. He's not the unifier he claims to be. But he's a great speaker.
 
2008-05-21 09:59:23 AM  
Shrugging Atlas: Empty Signal Gray: Obaaaaammmmmaaaa...He poops sunshine, burps Beethoven and sweats the sweetest honey. He can cure cancer with a mere glance. If you're ever blessed enough to touch him, you'll never know sorrow again. I have glimped God himself, and He is called Barack.

And don't you forget it buddy.


Sarcasm: lost on most Dems.
 
2008-05-21 10:01:57 AM  
The Flexecutioner: Getting Barack Obama elected will only pave the way for this guy:

I'm Not Sure about that.

/Did you know you can watch Idiocracy on YouTube (pops), in 10 minute segments?
 
2008-05-21 10:03:11 AM  
mcsestretch: Shrugging Atlas: Empty Signal Gray: Obaaaaammmmmaaaa...He poops sunshine, burps Beethoven and sweats the sweetest honey. He can cure cancer with a mere glance. If you're ever blessed enough to touch him, you'll never know sorrow again. I have glimped God himself, and He is called Barack.

And don't you forget it buddy.

Sarcasm: lost on most Dems.


Sarcasm?

No, that is bitterness I smell.

You repubs positively reek of it.
 
2008-05-21 10:06:37 AM  
Captain Obvious: Rather than campaign against Obama? lol


The republicans have this presidential campaign in the bag. The sad thing is, if the democrats had considered running someone remotely normal (say a John Kerry or an Al Gore), they might have been a sure thing.

Now this is just a circus that's gone on way to long.



I want to know what you mean by that, and I pray it's not what I think you mean.
 
2008-05-21 10:08:36 AM  
mcsestretch: Shrugging Atlas: Empty Signal Gray: Obaaaaammmmmaaaa...He poops sunshine, burps Beethoven and sweats the sweetest honey. He can cure cancer with a mere glance. If you're ever blessed enough to touch him, you'll never know sorrow again. I have glimped God himself, and He is called Barack.

And don't you forget it buddy.

Sarcasm: lost on most Dems.


And apparently humor as a whole is lost on your.
 
2008-05-21 10:10:13 AM  
ciocia: Empty Signal Gray: Obaaaaammmmmaaaa...He poops sunshine, burps Beethoven and sweats the sweetest honey. He can cure cancer with a mere glance. If you're ever blessed enough to touch him, you'll never know sorrow again. I have glimped God himself, and He is called Barack.

And Chuck Norris shines his shoes. Don't forget that.


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Would like a word with you.....
 
2008-05-21 10:15:14 AM  
huszar!:

The problem is, I think many Americans are having existential crises for many reasons and Obama's campaign is tapping into it by offering a vague promise of "making things better", when things aren't as bad as people make them out to be. This campaign could not have happened before the rise of mass consumerism and the decline of religion in the US.


Decline of religion?

What freaking America are YOU living in? Have you SEEN the current Administration's push to put books in the Grand Canyon gift shops that say it's as a result of the Great Flood?

It cracks me up. religion certainly isn't on the wane, but it sure is weak.

Look at the numbers.

You have dozens of religion-based TV stations in the country. Hundreds of similar radio stations. Broadcasting tens upon tens of thousands of hours of religion to millions of people that send in hundreds of millions of dollars.

And yet they're still 'fighting' evil? And that could take the form of, say, some musicians that tell kids to play their music backwards?

I think of it like an arm-wrestling match. You have religion, fighting on its hundreds of media outlets every day. Throwing millions of dollars at the fight every year. And they still can't beat the combined efforts of a few weird looking basement-dwellers wearing 'guy-liner' that flash the occasional two-horned hand sign? If you saw an arm-wrestling match like that, where one guy was throwing everything he had against someone hardly trying at all, and still never winning, who would YOU say was in the most trouble?
 
2008-05-21 10:15:51 AM  
mcsestretch: Sarcasm: lost on most Dems.

That's a whole lot of fail packed into one small sentence. If that's what you were shooting for, then I congratulate you on your great success.
 
2008-05-21 10:23:08 AM  
Cubist Robot Party: $5 says there's no way he actually votes for McCain in November.

yeah, that's like telling a girl you'll call her as you leave her apartment in the morning.
 
2008-05-21 10:26:18 AM  
aerojockey: Oh, please. If an Obama advisor had quit rather than campaign against McCain, you would all be calling him scum of the Earth. You don't care about "honesty", you only care about anything that supports your guy.

arguing in hypotheticals is fun because there is absolutely no chance of being proven wrong.

very brave of you.
 
2008-05-21 10:31:10 AM  
log_jammin: Goodfella: Action Jackson would kick Apollo Creed's ass.

Carl Weathers could take them both out


Don't make me summon Zombie Kung Fu Joe to kick all their asses...

/I'm Gonna Git You Sucka
 
2008-05-21 10:41:19 AM  
It seems rather unprofessional of him to have ever accepted a job he's unwilling to do. ...and an Obama candidacy in the general election has been a distinct possibility for many months now, so it's not as though this is a recent development...
 
2008-05-21 10:47:27 AM  
Kevin72: McCain, sec of state. Edwards, atty gen. Blomberg, VP. Hilldawg, sen majority leader.

Why? What the hell is your reasoning for thinking McCain would be a good secretary of state? If his recent string of gaffes about who's fighting who in a war he helped start isn't bad enough, he admitted he doesn't know jackshiat about foreign affairs, which is, the last time I checked, the prerequisite for the job. Give McCain a silly jacket and let him give tours around the White House but that's as close as I'd be comfortable having him near it.
 
2008-05-21 10:48:31 AM  
From the comments section of the article:

Jose May 20th, 2008 8:13 pm ET

I am not bit bashful to say that we can't have a big drinker as a nominee. Hillary takes shots of whiskey on the road and drinks beers.

She has seriusly compromised herself as a candidate with her drinking . I wish she would retire now!!


Oh noes, she had some alcohol in celebration! *eye roll*

It's one thing if she drinks, yes, but it's not like she's getting wasted on the campaign trail. She has a little alcohol and is totally fine and still in control of herself. Get over it buddy.


/Still wants Obama to win.
//GObama '08!
 
2008-05-21 10:53:59 AM  
burndtdan:arguing in hypotheticals is fun because there is absolutely no chance of being proven wrong.

He has a point though. I don't recall ever reading a Fark thread where the majority of opinions supported/favored anything that would reflect negatively on Obama. It does appear that any event is seen through a pro-Obama filter on Fark, and opinions are then formed accordingly.

Don't get me wrong -- if Hillary isn't nominated, which is looking increasingly unlikely, I'll probably vote for Obama (unless I hear some seriously impressive energy & health care positions from McCain). ...but the cult of personality / hero worship that seems to have formed around him is, to me, completely inexplicable & more than a bit nauseating.

/though I'll certainly give the man credit, he knows how to play his audiences with more skill than I've ever seen from a politician in my lifetime -- a true master of oratory
 
2008-05-21 10:55:50 AM  
is this the same guy who said some time ago that he wouldn't campaign against obama, but would "burn his house down" to attack hillary?
i'm looking for the original article, it was in some texas newspaper blog...
 
2008-05-21 11:00:18 AM  
how is this cool, subby??

I like McCain far better than Hillary or Obama.

[crosses arms, goes "hmmmph".]

[goes and sulks in corner]
 
2008-05-21 11:01:24 AM  
hyperspacemonkey: furiousxgeorge: McCain should do the same, for his own good.

Indeed. campaigning against Obama, whether he wins or loses, will look awful in the history books. Race does matter.

Gender does too, but Hillary lied to much to get treated well by historians.


Wow. Talk about RACISM. "We can't say anything bad about Obama because he's black and that therefore would automatically be racist."

Holy farking shiat. Do you even HEAR what you're saying???
 
2008-05-21 11:02:13 AM  
aerojockey: Oh, please. If an Obama advisor had quit rather than campaign against McCain, you would all be calling him scum of the Earth. You don't care about "honesty", you only care about anything that supports your guy.

Not everyone is like you, some of us do actually care about honesty and integrity.
 
2008-05-21 11:05:19 AM  
k, i guess the original article is gone, but the wonkette link survived:

Link (new window)
 
2008-05-21 11:08:34 AM  
Christian Republican Gun Slinger: FetusAGoGo: My hard-working, working class candidate begs to differ

He's not black. Therefore, I'm not inclined to vote for him.


Neither is Obama numbnuts.

/not voting for any of your skeeves
 
2008-05-21 11:09:55 AM  
aerojockey: Oh, please. If an Obama advisor had quit rather than campaign against McCain, you would all be calling him scum of the Earth. You don't care about "honesty", you only care about anything that supports your guy.

Annnnnnnnd.... no.
 
2008-05-21 11:11:02 AM  
jshine: He has a point though.

no he doesn't.

jshine: I don't recall ever reading a Fark thread where the majority of opinions supported/favored anything that would reflect negatively on Obama.

i don't recall ever reading a fark thread where the criticism was well founded in facts or not complete nonsense. most (if not all) fark submissions that would try to discredit obama are railed against not because of obama, but because of the stupidity of the argument being presented.

if you remember, the exact same thing happened in ron paul threads. it's not that ron paul was unassailable, some of his positions were truly radical. it's that the only way people would attack ron paul was through ad hominem and strawman, both against him and his "cult". sound familiar?

i wasn't planning on voting for paul, but i was in those threads tearing apart those strawman attacks because they aren't valid arguments. and i'd be doing the same for the stupid arguments made against obama whether or not i was going to vote for him.

hell, i do the same in threads about mccain when the attack is unfair. so do most of the obama "cult". remember the thread about cindy mccain's investments being connected to burma? i read a lot of "there are plenty of reasons to not vote for mccain, this isn't one of them" and the like... are we in a mccain cult now too? that would make the third cult i've personally joined this election season, if that's the case.
 
2008-05-21 11:16:31 AM  
Believe!
/or else
 
2008-05-21 11:20:41 AM  
Obviously the media hasn't the same affection for McCain as they do ObaMao.
 
2008-05-21 11:21:33 AM  
danlpoon: Obviously the media hasn't the same affection for McCain as they do ObaMao.

With so much practice you'd think you would be getting better at this. You're not.
 
2008-05-21 11:28:47 AM  
cameroncrazy1984: With so much practice you'd think you would be getting better at this. You're not.

What are you talking about? He's great at being an attention whore; And I assume that's all he tries to be, since he fails on every other level.
 
2008-05-21 11:33:34 AM  
With so much practice you'd think you would be getting better at this. You're not.

A dozen reporters and editors were guests on this morning's National Press Club Breakfast and they all criticized themselves for going easy on Obama because they like him.

Just because you're ill-informed doesn't make you stupid. I think that comes naturally to you.
 
2008-05-21 11:35:26 AM  
Apparently I found the cave where you two hide from the rest of Fark who have turned on your dreamboat.
 
2008-05-21 11:54:57 AM  
The Flexecutioner: Getting Barack Obama elected will only pave the way for this guy:

You know what's funny about this comment. Even that president knew he had to get the right people in place to turn things around. Hopefully we can do the same.
 
2008-05-21 12:00:09 PM  
Old enough to know better: Class? In MY politics?

/its more likely then you think (i.e. Obama)
 
2008-05-21 12:00:58 PM  
He probably needs to be at the gym in 26 minutes.
 
2008-05-21 12:02:30 PM  
If someone called me by my middle name, I'd look at them funny.

If someone called me by my middle name to make fun of me, I'd probably punch them in the nose. Which is why I will never be President of the United States.

/Am I the only Farker that hates people making fun of their name(s)?
 
2008-05-21 12:06:35 PM  
jshine:He has a point though.
burndtdan:no he doesn't.

Yes he does.

resim.urlax.net
 
2008-05-21 12:09:49 PM  
moothemagiccow: I can't believe the headline wasn't a joke.

This.
 
2008-05-21 12:13:28 PM  
malphious: Its starting to feel like Aaron Sorkin is writing this election.

West Wing, Season 7, there is a long-serving, elderly Republican candidate (McCain) with extensive foreign policy experience running against a relatively junior Hispanic (half-black) Congressman (Senator) Democratic candidate (Obama), with little to no foreign policy experience. Furthermore, when the Democrats nominate an Hispanic candidate, one of the Republican candidate's aides quits.

So if this election turns out like his TV show, Obama will win, and choose McCain to be his Secretary of State.

Actually, that doesn't sound half bad.


Yeah that actually sounds good. It's not McCain I'd mind in the White House it's all the worthless cronies that will be whispering in his ear influencing decisions. I doubt he would accept it but I'd like to see Obama offer him a position in his administration.
 
2008-05-21 12:15:02 PM  
RockyMtnMan:
If someone called me by my middle name to make fun of me, I'd probably punch them in the nose. Which is why I will never be President of the United States.


HA HA Mountain! What type of silly and hilly name is that!

/someone had to do it
 
2008-05-21 12:16:11 PM  
What type of silly and hilly name is that!

Ask Leslie West.
 
2008-05-21 12:25:19 PM  
Maybe he just doesn't want to be called a racist for the rest of his life. You know that MSM would be watching him for even the slightest hint that something said could, when viewed at a certain angle, through a certain lens, at a certain distance, be construed as racist. They would find something no matter what, and then they would feed on him.
What are the chances that he could come away clean, even if he plays it clean?
 
2008-05-21 02:08:45 PM  
Interesting article from 2006 about Dem primaries. It was fairly prescient.
Its a NY times article so it won't link.

http://www.nytimes.com/2006/12/04/washington/04candidates.html?pagewanted=1&adx n nl=1&adxnnlx=1211393044-abKlFGaMjYgYYjCSsawXLQ

Mark McKinnon, who was a top adviser to President Bush in his two White House runs and who is a senior adviser to Senator John McCain, Republican of Arizona and a likely presidential candidate in 2008, said, "I think Barack Obama is the most interesting persona to appear on the political radar screen in decades." He added, "He's a walking, talking hope machine, and he may reshape American politics."
 
2008-05-21 03:08:24 PM  
Mark McKinnon, who was a top adviser to President Bush in his two White House runs

McCain is purging his links to Bush.
 
2008-05-21 03:14:42 PM  
moothemagiccow: Illidan: I don't follow why this is a good thing. Why did he sign on for the job in the first place if he wasn't willing to do it? If all is accurate and there are no major relevant circumstances, this would fall under the "dishonorable" category to me. The most likely exception: he was simply taking a moral stand against the tactics the campaign preferred.

I can only assume he was hoping to campaign against Clinton, the media favorite last year.


That is indeed the case. In an article that was posted here a while ago he was quoted as saying something along the lines of "I'd burn my own house down to bring down Hillary." To the best of my knowledge he has no outside connections to Obama and based this decision solely on being unwilling to smear a good person.
 
2008-05-21 03:23:49 PM  
danlpoon: Mark McKinnon, who was a top adviser to President Bush in his two White House runs

McCain is purging his links to Bush.


I doubt this is the motive. McKinnon said he'd do this months ago before it was apparent that Obama was likely to be the nominee, and it was conditional on Obama specifically being the democratic nominee. It seems if they were really trying to cut ties to Bush, they'd still do it if Hillary was the nominee. He expressly stated that he'd stay on if Clinton was the nominee.
 
2008-05-21 03:29:04 PM  
Fun and Prizes: Maybe he just doesn't want to be called a racist for the rest of his life. You know that MSM would be watching him for even the slightest hint that something said could, when viewed at a certain angle, through a certain lens, at a certain distance, be construed as racist. They would find something no matter what, and then they would feed on him.
What are the chances that he could come away clean, even if he plays it clean?


If that were true, I think everyone on McCain's campaign would be at risk, and we'd see far more advisors leaving for reasons like this.
 
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