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2008-05-20 03:35:16 PM
The 1996 John McCain would be absoultely disgusted by his 2008 campaign.
 
2008-05-20 03:49:46 PM
The 1996 McCain might have made a decent president. The 2008 McCain is still trying to figure out how he lost to that idiot Dubya in 2000.
 
2008-05-20 03:56:09 PM
big_pth: The 1996 McCain might have made a decent president. The 2008 McCain is still trying to figure out how he lost to that idiot Dubya in 2000.

It's depressing. I at least hope that the pre-2000 vintage McCain would be appalled by this year's. I voted for him in 2000, and I would hate to think that I voted for the guy I see today.

Also, he lost to Bush in 2000 because Bush had a campaign team that expertly played on the racism of South Carolina voters, and because Bush was backed by the vast majority of the party and its donors.
 
2008-05-20 03:59:40 PM
But Lobbyist are people too!
 
2008-05-20 04:12:49 PM
His constant foreign policy gaffes would've already crippled his 2008 campaign, but alas, we've got a weirdo black preacher to talk about.
 
2008-05-20 04:13:19 PM
...and Obama's, too.

/the number of lobbyists in Washington is directly proportional to the power of the Federal Government
 
2008-05-20 04:45:00 PM
MasterThief: ...and Obama's, too.

Obama has over 1.5 million donors, averaging contributions around $100. McCain's 96 legislation would not have affected that at all. Even if you souped it up to include former lobbyists, family members of lobbyists, etc. etc.... how many of that 1.5 mil do you think would be excluded?

Like him or now, Obama is running a clean campaign.
 
2008-05-20 04:47:43 PM
MasterThief: ...and Obama's, too.

Thank you for linking that article. While I don't think it quite reaches OMG HIPPOCRYTE proportions, it's good to see that the Obama campaign isn't above using sneaky lawyer tricks and semantics.

/Obama or Barr '08
//yes I realize that seems odd at first
///social liberal, financial moderate
 
2008-05-20 04:56:58 PM
eabod: Like him or now

Doh! That should have said "Like him NOW!

/j/k/lolz
 
2008-05-20 04:57:38 PM
gundamtsubasa: MasterThief: ...and Obama's, too.

Thank you for linking that article. While I don't think it quite reaches OMG HIPPOCRYTE proportions, it's good to see that the Obama campaign isn't above using sneaky lawyer tricks and semantics.

/Obama or Barr '08
//yes I realize that seems odd at first
///social liberal, financial moderate


If you're a social liberal, Barr does indeed seem odd to me.
 
2008-05-20 05:00:59 PM
When did Fark turn into Huffington Post Lite?

This site is getting more liberal then Al Franken at a Transgendered Atheist convention!
 
2008-05-20 05:07:54 PM
1996, oh to be a dozen years younger again.
 
2008-05-20 05:18:24 PM
Overfiend: When did Fark turn into Huffington Post Lite?

This site is getting more liberal then Al Franken at a Transgendered Atheist convention!


And, therefore, a reflection of the larger nation as a whole.

img183.imageshack.us
 
2008-05-20 05:29:36 PM
submitter: The 1996 bill Senator McCain introduced would have crippled his 2008 campaign

I think what you are all forgetting is that John McCain will put the national interest ahead of partisanship, he will work with anyone who sincerely wants to get this country moving again. If John McCain is elected President, the era of the permanent campaign will end. The era of problem solving will begin.
 
2008-05-20 05:52:05 PM
Skleenar: I think what you are all forgetting is that John McCain will put the national interest ahead of partisanship, he will work with anyone who sincerely wants to get this country moving again. If John McCain is elected President, the era of the permanent campaign will end. The era of problem solving will begin.

I tend to agree, and I think this statement is also true for Obama.

I'm pretty happy about our choices this time around.
 
2008-05-20 06:07:55 PM
amishrakefight.org
 
2008-05-20 06:10:28 PM
MasterThief: ...and Obama's, too.

OMG! I heard from a friend that Obama knows a guy who talked to a lady who thinks about lobbyists!
 
2008-05-20 06:12:50 PM
eabod:
Like him or not, Obama is running a clean campaign.



www.clevelandleader.com

Tony and Barak hope you keep the " clean campaign" message out there too!
 
2008-05-20 06:14:18 PM
MasterThief: ...and Obama's, too.

Or more likely, neither Senator McCain's nor Senator Obama's, as they both would have approached their campaigns differently from the beginning if this law had passed.

I mean, really. 'OMG, someone's not following a 10-year-old non-law!' Call the non-cops and have the non-DA have a non-press conference.
 
2008-05-20 06:14:34 PM
I thought Alzheimer's disease crippled his campaign.
 
2008-05-20 06:15:17 PM
img1.fark.net
 
2008-05-20 06:17:02 PM
eabod: I tend to agree, and I think this statement is also true for Obama.

I'm pretty happy about our choices this time around.


No shat!

Remember 4 years ago when it was Kerry V Bush? Jesus that sucked!
 
2008-05-20 06:17:47 PM
Manfred J. Hattan:
I mean, really. 'OMG, someone's not following a 10-year-old non-law!' Call the non-cops and have the non-DA have a non-press conference.


Except McCain was the one who wanted to make it law, shiathead.
 
2008-05-20 06:17:48 PM
Overfiend: When did Fark turn into Huffington Post Lite?

This site is getting more liberal then Al Franken at a Transgendered Atheist convention!


Judging by the ever-tightening of the censorship belt on this site, I can't see how Fark could be getting MORE liberal.

Unless you are talking about the liberal reaction to having freedoms taken away.
 
2008-05-20 06:18:04 PM
politech: eabod:
Like him or not, Obama is running a clean campaign.
Tony and Barak hope you keep the " clean campaign" message out there too!


Oh please. Shall we start posting photos of McCain's ties no matter how remote?
 
2008-05-20 06:19:07 PM
Overfiend: This site is getting more liberal then Al Franken at a Transgendered Atheist convention!

I see a higher percentage of super conservative people on Fark than I encounter in real life, and I'm a lifelong "red state" resident. It's ironic when they post on political threads complaining about how liberal Fark is, since the frequency of their posts indicates otherwise.
 
2008-05-20 06:19:10 PM
Manfred J. Hattan: I mean, really. 'OMG, someone's not following a 10-year-old non-law!' Call the non-cops and have the non-DA have a non-press conference.

That's not the point. the point is that McCain has flip-flopped on his campaign finance position. Flip flop flip flop.
 
2008-05-20 06:19:31 PM
Sammy Jenkins: Except McCain was the one who wanted to make it law, shiathead.

And it isn't one.

So he should handicap himself to appease morons like you?
 
2008-05-20 06:20:17 PM
Who cares? Haven't you heard? Barack Obama's wife wrote an essay back in college!
 
2008-05-20 06:21:07 PM
Sammy Jenkins: Manfred J. Hattan:
I mean, really. 'OMG, someone's not following a 10-year-old non-law!' Call the non-cops and have the non-DA have a non-press conference.

Except McCain was the one who wanted to make it law, shiathead.


Obama's co-authored the new lobbying reform law that requires lawmakers to disclose the names of lobbyists who "bundle" contributions for them. Names like Antoin Rezko spring to mind...
 
2008-05-20 06:22:03 PM
jaylectricity: Overfiend: When did Fark turn into Huffington Post Lite?

This site is getting more liberal then Al Franken at a Transgendered Atheist convention!

Judging by the ever-tightening of the censorship belt on this site, I can't see how Fark could be getting MORE liberal.

Unless you are talking about the liberal reaction to having freedoms taken away.


It's possible he's one of the people who label all anti-Bush people as "liberals". Of course, by that definition most of the country is "liberal" now. In reality just as many are moderates and true conservatives as liberals. Mainstream Democrats in this country are NOT liberals, either, by the way.
 
2008-05-20 06:23:31 PM
impaler: Sammy Jenkins: Except McCain was the one who wanted to make it law, shiathead.

And it isn't one.

So he should handicap himself to appease morons like you?


He should follow his convictions, regardless of what the law actually says. Or else, he should just say that he's been doing nothing but wasting time in finance reform, because he doesn't really believe in it.

But given his Alzheimer's I doubt he even remembered introducing that bill in 1996.
 
2008-05-20 06:23:34 PM
no shiat...you needed HufPo to figure that one out?

libs are a tad slow I guess.
 
2008-05-20 06:23:42 PM
StillH2O: It's possible he's one of the people who label all anti-Bush people as "liberals". Of course, by that definition most of the country is "liberal" now. In reality just as many are moderates and true conservatives as liberals. Mainstream Democrats in this country are NOT liberals, either, by the way.

shutup! The reality of which you speak is far too complex for my simple mind to handle!
 
2008-05-20 06:24:09 PM
Ninja Wicked: That's not the point. the point is that McCain has flip-flopped on his campaign finance position. Flip flop flip flop.

No, he didn't flip flop. Having lost the battle to get this thing enacted (you caught that, right -- it didn't pass) he chose not to unilaterally disarm. That doesn't make him a flip-flopper, it makes him not an idiot.

As it happens, I believe that Senator McCain is hugely and tragically wrong about his approach to campaign finance reform. But I don't expect him to adhere a non-law unilaterally.
 
2008-05-20 06:24:12 PM
Sammy Jenkins:
I thought Alzheimer's disease crippled his campaign.

i65.photobucket.com
 
2008-05-20 06:24:50 PM
Sammy Jenkins: He should follow his convictions, regardless of what the law actually says. Yeah, try that with taxes and see how far it gets you...
 
2008-05-20 06:25:19 PM
Skleenar: Overfiend: When did Fark turn into Huffington Post Lite?

This site is getting more liberal then Al Franken at a Transgendered Atheist convention!

And, therefore, a reflection of the larger nation as a whole. (graphs)


How dare you drag facts and objective reality into this thread! That's just what we've all come to expect from you libs...

/sarcasm
//McCain will kill us all if we let him
 
2008-05-20 06:25:53 PM
Flip flops are over-rated.
 
2008-05-20 06:26:25 PM
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I sense a photoshop in the near future.
 
2008-05-20 06:26:28 PM
Manfred J. Hattan: As it happens, I believe that Senator McCain is hugely and tragically wrong about his approach to campaign finance reform. But I don't expect him to adhere a non-law unilaterally.

I have to agree.

Saying he should follow the law, even though it didn't pass, when his opponents aren't going to follow - is to admit you're flat out retarded. Sorry, but no one cares about retards' opinions...
 
2008-05-20 06:26:59 PM
Rug Doctor: //McCain will kill us all if we let him

no, just you, but we've all agreed you have it coming.
 
2008-05-20 06:28:30 PM
politics thread lame war
 
2008-05-20 06:29:08 PM
Manfred J. Hattan: Ninja Wicked: That's not the point. the point is that McCain has flip-flopped on his campaign finance position. Flip flop flip flop.

No, he didn't flip flop. Having lost the battle to get this thing enacted (you caught that, right -- it didn't pass) he chose not to unilaterally disarm. That doesn't make him a flip-flopper, it makes him not an idiot.

As it happens, I believe that Senator McCain is hugely and tragically wrong about his approach to campaign finance reform. But I don't expect him to adhere a non-law unilaterally.


So you're saying he doesn't have to practice what he preaches then.
 
2008-05-20 06:29:22 PM
jaylectricity: Flip flops are over-rated.

Tell me about it.

McCain - No Timetable for Iraq, 100 more years of Iraq, Iraq will end by 2013! Against torture, for torture!
 
2008-05-20 06:29:58 PM
3 liberals running for president.
I have no one to vote for, only 3 people to vote against.

I would much prefer to have a candidate I support rather than a "I hate him/her the least" vote to cast.

Sigh....
Where is Ronald W. Reagan when you need him......
 
2008-05-20 06:30:07 PM
Ninja Wicked: So you're saying he doesn't have to practice what he preaches then.

Stop being a retard
 
2008-05-20 06:31:23 PM
QuitWhileYoureAhead: politech: eabod:
Like him or not, Obama is running a clean campaign.
Tony and Barak hope you keep the " clean campaign" message out there too!

Oh please. Shall we start posting photos of McCain's ties no matter how remote?


Remote? Obama's dealings with Tony may have never been prosecuted by the law, but despite his high-minded politics, Barack is no purer - and no smarter - than any other sleazy Illinois political hack. In Illinois every politician's greatest weakness is for the "generous contributor". Savory or not, they want the cash.

Barack wouldn't even say no when Rezko cooked up a deal to help Barack buy his Georgian-revival home.

Barack lived in the house that Tony swindled for him, and you call that "remote".
 
2008-05-20 06:32:25 PM
eabod: I tend to agree, and I think this statement is also true for Obama.

Boy, do I have a job for you.
 
2008-05-20 06:33:44 PM
politech: Barack wouldn't even say no when Rezko cooked up a deal to help Barack buy his Georgian-revival home.

Barack lived in the house that Tony swindled for him, and you call that "remote".


THIS

Obama is just another corrupt Illinois politician...it's only time before the shiat hits the fan.
 
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