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2008-05-19 11:48:49 PM  
WFern: paulseta: Oh dear God.

I'm centre-left (yes, we spell it that way) and I find this so pathetic that my eyes are bleeding.

The blood I will sell to make black pudding, which I will on-sell to the RNC and the Goodies.

/These smug jerks are what give rational people a very, very bad name. I especially love the fact that I happen to know a lot of people who identify with this wing and eat the most amazing and expensive food you can imagine. This is the public face.

Hypocrisy in my Democratic Party? It's more likely than you think.

//Hey, one thing the Republicans have going for them is that at least they can live well and own up to it - most of the time...

How does THAT work though? There's hypocrisy at times, but the Democrats are the folks attempting to be more sensible about consumption. Yet they are painted as elitist by their Republican counterparts who are busy living a life of monetary and environmental hedonism.


Right, have you seen Hillary's, Gore's, Edwards, Obama's, Kennedy's, Kerry's, etc, lifestyles and homes. Environment is one of the talking points they play against the Republicans, like the Republicans who have their own talking points against the Democrats.
 
2008-05-19 11:49:22 PM  
Hospitality riders are a funny thing.

Once you get everyone going there is no knowing where things will end.

Individuals will ask for certain things....

The person in charge of the rider will try to sort out the various requests and provide the promoter with a concrete list of desires.

Often the subtle nature of the "requests" are lost in the shuffle and absurd sounding items are "demanded" by the talent.

When the wanted items are put into a document they often sound crazy.

This happens to almost every organization that tries and is why TSG has a rider page to provide mirth to us all.


Still, the 1984 Van Halen rider does ask for a bigass bowl of M&M's (No brown ones!)

That is exactly the way it is phrased. (I have an origonal bound copy on my shelf) When DLR spoke of it years later he claimed the request was hidden in a rigging portion of the document to allow the band to know the truss might not be safe if brown candy was found back stage.

But he was lying.

If you want purity look at BB King's rider. He ask's for nothing.

I guess that's one reason he is so beloved everywhere.

/did not read any of the article
 
2008-05-19 11:49:51 PM  
TheCid
Also, if the Dems didn't go crazy with "as much must be local/organic/eco-friendly as possible", the Republicans would endlessly smear them as hypocrites.

I came in here to say this.
 
2008-05-19 11:52:43 PM  
I LOVE how the DNC is pushing organic foods to help save the environment! I also that the DNC's push for organic foods is also allowing people to starve to death all over the world due to low crop yield, low shelf life, higher crop loss, etc. But of course this causes more deaths which helps the environment even more! Geniuses!!!
 
2008-05-19 11:53:14 PM  
Elitists.
 
2008-05-19 11:54:35 PM  
Somacandra: Hey now. Nothing gets in the way between me and my Rush Limbaugh Weekender Pac. (new window)

I was expecting that to include a bottle of Viagra and tickets to a third-world nation.
 
2008-05-19 11:55:36 PM  
bikerific: If they didn't do this, then Sean Hannity and co. would go off on how they are hypocrites.

Yep. Damned either way.
 
2008-05-19 11:56:18 PM  
mofroe: Other than blue potatoes and blueberries, what other fruits and vegetables are naturally blue? I can't think of any off the top of my head.

Lots of blue/purple stuff out there. Some varieties of Quandong. Purple asparagus, Purple cabbage, Purple carrots, Eggplant, Purple Belgian endive, Purple peppers, Potatoes (purple fleshed) and fruit such as Blackberries, Blueberries, Black currants, Dried plums, Elderberries, Purple figs, Purple grapes, Plums and Raisins. (new window)

GIS is your friend.
 
2008-05-19 11:56:35 PM  
paulseta: I probably should have put the whole thing in a tongue in cheek tag. :-)

I guess I was saying that it has always been rather amusing to me that both parties generally live in luxury - the Dems feel guilty about it, and the Republicans thrive on it and admit it...


Oh, I got that part. I'm just not sure it's the norm or a comparable degree for the Democrats and, honestly, guilt is sometimes a positive when it's deserved.

atlanta_ufo: Right, have you seen Hillary's, Gore's, Edwards, Obama's, Kennedy's, Kerry's, etc, lifestyles and homes. Environment is one of the talking points they play against the Republicans, like the Republicans who have their own talking points against the Democrats.

I'm not familiar with their homes or lifestyles at large, but I do know that Clinton Obama drive hybrid vehicles, while, I believe goes beyond that on a personal level of energy consumption. They're certainly not 100% green, which is nearly impossible, especially when maintaining a public presence, but they're at least doing something in addition to their legislation or litigation.
 
2008-05-19 11:57:20 PM  
Somacandra: Quit Yer biatchin'.

At least you're not catering the Green Party Convention:


Green Party Conventions are Pot Luck.
 
2008-05-19 11:57:29 PM  
Why is everyone complaining? It's their party let them do whatever the fark they want. You know US politics suck when republicans and democrats argue about the morality and validity of their convention meals.

What a farking joke.
 
2008-05-19 11:57:59 PM  
Lionel Mandrake: I was expecting that to include a bottle of Viagra and tickets to a third-world nation.

Yeah. It links like a Rickroll, but is served "Medium Asshat."
 
2008-05-19 11:59:17 PM  
towatchoverme: Green Party Conventions are Pot Luck.

Well, I'd get lucky at my conventions if I brought pot too. :)
 
2008-05-19 11:59:40 PM  
steelpeg: I LOVE how the DNC is pushing organic foods to help save the environment! I also that the DNC's push for organic foods is also allowing people to starve to death all over the world due to low crop yield, low shelf life, higher crop loss, etc. But of course this causes more deaths which helps the environment even more! Geniuses!!!

Eating local and organic reduces demand for globalized commodity food, lowering prices, and making it more affordable for people in 3rd world countries.
 
2008-05-19 11:59:51 PM  
steelpeg: I LOVE how the DNC is pushing organic foods to help save the environment! I also that the DNC's push for organic foods is also allowing people to starve to death all over the world due to low crop yield, low shelf life, higher crop loss, etc. But of course this causes more deaths which helps the environment even more! Geniuses!!!

Do you have any idea how much CO2 is put out every time you breath?

I know you weren't being serious, but nothing could be better for the enviroment than less humans screwing it up. The only ones doing a better job are the Republicans who try to starve people right here in America, who are much more wasteful as a rule than people in Africa.

/If you're gonna be a dick anyway
//Be right
 
2008-05-20 12:00:18 AM  
steelpeg: I LOVE how the DNC is pushing organic foods to help save the environment! I also that the DNC's push for organic foods is also allowing people to starve to death all over the world due to low crop yield, low shelf life, higher crop loss, etc. But of course this causes more deaths which helps the environment even more! Geniuses!!!

There is too much retard in this post for me to even start to address.
 
2008-05-20 12:00:32 AM  
WFern: ...Clinton and Obama drive hybrid vehicles, while, I believe, Gore goes beyond...

Yikes, did I butcher that.

steelpeg: I LOVE how the DNC is pushing organic foods to help save the environment! I also that the DNC's push for organic foods is also allowing people to starve to death all over the world due to low crop yield, low shelf life, higher crop loss, etc. But of course this causes more deaths which helps the environment even more! Geniuses!!!

What are you babbling about? When have they ever "pushed" for organic foods on an international scale? If someone serves it at a private function, that does not equate a legal or remotely public policy.
 
2008-05-20 12:00:52 AM  
Shaggy_C: Oh, whatever. The DNC comes once every four years, it's their big party.

I understand that b*tching about it is sauntering into Freeper BS, but it would really be nice if we had an election for once that didn't cost untold millions of dollars. OK, "told" if you believe the tracking. Still, what a waste. You could fund a program on the money collected just to run for office.
 
2008-05-20 12:03:07 AM  
whidbey: You could fund a program on the money collected just to run for office.

This is supposed to be the year of the first billion dollar election...high stakes means big money.
 
2008-05-20 12:03:27 AM  
generaltimmy: Fried scrimps, but no fried foods? No fried chicken? Uhh, I know he is haf black/white, but I know the stereotype about us blacks and chicken...and I always see a ton of white folk in KFC!

No fetuses to suck the stem cells out of?

Th ebest thing about being at the NYC GOP convention was the food an dbooze...omg, i twas free and good!


I think you probably should have stopped drinking long enough to post.

/Your booze will wait. Really. For serious.
 
2008-05-20 12:03:30 AM  
WFern:

I heat Clinton's hybrid is puppy/petrol and Obama's runs on hope and change.

/did a few calls for Obama in Kentucky today
//but I was too nervous to make more than a few
 
2008-05-20 12:04:11 AM  
Shaggy_C: whidbey: You could fund a program on the money collected just to run for office.

This is supposed to be the year of the first billion dollar election...high stakes means big money.


Also, the only way an underdog can win an election is by outspending incumbent. Sad but true. That's actually one of the best argument against McCain-Feingold.
 
2008-05-20 12:08:52 AM  
Churchill2004 2008-05-19 10:54:47 PM
Just remember- these are the people running the country.


First off, no. These are not the people "running the country." That distinction would belong to the Executive branch. Accountability starts at the top. They will be running the country in another 8 months, thanks to the corruption and ineptitude of the current leaders.

Secondly, if this was the worst thing that the people who are running the counry were doing, we'd all be a hell of a lot better off.
 
2008-05-20 12:09:39 AM  
Shaggy_C: high stakes means big money.

That kind of mentality makes an election seem more like The Christmas Season™.

Seriously, not to put too much faith in the Internets, but I'm really hoping that getting the word out is going to be a lot more inexpensive and accessible to the people in the coming years. There is absolutely NO reason why an election should cost anything close to a billion dollars. NONE.

So they'd better start drafting an Internet Act.
 
2008-05-20 12:10:09 AM  
"Blue could be a challenge," joked Ed Janos, owner of Cook's Fresh Market in Denver. "All I can think of are blueberries."v

I've got some old strawberries in my fridge that you can have. They fit the bill!

/sure someone beat me to it.
 
2008-05-20 12:10:44 AM  
CaptainFatass: Secondly, if this was the worst thing that the people who are running the counry were doing, we'd all be a hell of a lot better off.

I wonder if Churchill has ever worked for a large corporation...sustainibility initiatives are the new hotness in the private sector as well. I wouldn't be surprised if my executive team eats all organic etc too.
 
2008-05-20 12:11:13 AM  
HansensDisease: The RNC likely has baby hearts and puppy guts on its menu.

I believe theirs is live babies, puppies and kittens with a trough to catch all the blood (gotta have something for the after dinner drinks).
 
2008-05-20 12:12:08 AM  
whidbey: So they'd better start drafting an Internet Act.

www.enigmacurry.com

Wouldn't want to make it too easy for us, now would they?
 
2008-05-20 12:16:07 AM  
Shaggy_C: Eating local and organic reduces demand for globalized commodity food, lowering prices, and making it more affordable for people in 3rd world countries.

You realize that those crops are taking up land that could produce more food, quicker - hence why it costs so much, right? I have no problem with you growing your own organic food, as I do that in my own little patch of land the would otherwise just be grass. But for these larger producers who operate legitimate farms, I believe the land can be used for even greater world problems like starvation.

My sister is in upper corporate manager of a national grocery store chain and they have a spoilage rate of 34% of organic foods that they end up throwing out. "Normal" produce has a rate of 3-4%. That's at the store...now take in the farm spoilage rates, transportation spoilage rates, etc. Be environmentally friendly and grow your own for your family and friends.
 
2008-05-20 12:19:03 AM  
Behold the whine of some GOP sniveler...the article was pure fail.
 
2008-05-20 12:21:08 AM  
Shaggy_C: Wouldn't want to make it too easy for us, now would they?

I'm just saying they had better come up with something more than 29.99 or the next election's going to go to Joe Blow with his election site on MySpace.

Screw the millions. I'm actually loving it. Too bad it's a little too soon. Can you imagine what 2012 is going to be like? Throw in a little Mayan Calendar paranoia and you have the Election of the Century.
 
2008-05-20 12:34:39 AM  
steelpeg: You realize that those crops are taking up land that could produce more food, quicker - hence why it costs so much, right?

Yes, people realize farms willing to resort to use of hormones, pesticides, genetic engineering, and preservatives can grow food faster and that doesn't spoil. If you don't see the reason why people would willingly pay extra to avoid those things, you're missing the point.

I have no problem with you growing your own organic food, as I do that in my own little patch of land the would otherwise just be grass.

Hey, yeah, that'll work! "I have no problem with you driving an SUV as long as you synthesize your own oil and refine your own gasoline."

My sister is in upper corporate manager of a national grocery store chain

So your sister is the head bagger at the Food King and that makes you an expert on organic farming? Did she get you a discount on your Fillet of Fail?
 
2008-05-20 12:35:21 AM  
WFern: What are you babbling about? When have they ever "pushed" for organic foods on an international scale?

You do realize that people are starving here in the United States don't you?
And Mexico has hundreds of thousands starving and they border many states that grow crops in the US! That is the problem I have with the libtard side of the DNC who think that what you do locally has no effect on the rest of the world. If that were the case, then why worry about the environment in the US at all when China, India, etc. are destroying much more than we are. Go ahead and pick and choose the conversation that you join whether this time it effects only locally, but next time you say it affects internationally.

Of course, you probably never have traveled anywhere outside the US and so everything is only a "local" issue to you and you can't understand the interrelationships of the world..
 
2008-05-20 12:35:42 AM  
whidbey: Screw the millions. I'm actually loving it. Too bad it's a little too soon. Can you imagine what 2012 is going to be like?

You mean where Obama faces reelection against some ceremonial GOP goat?
 
2008-05-20 12:46:58 AM  
Torc: You mean where Obama faces reelection against some ceremonial GOP goat?

Newt?
 
2008-05-20 12:49:58 AM  
FTFA:

Fried foods are forbidden at the committee's 22 or so events, as is liquid served in individual plastic containers.


It's common knowledge that a lib will suffer an immediate heart attack if they have a taste of fried food.
 
2008-05-20 12:51:23 AM  
Torc: So your sister is the head bagger at the Food King and that makes you an expert on organic farming?

HAHAHAHA...you are funny!! Try using that computer to look at the WHO (I'm sorry, the World Health Organization) website, scientific journal websites, charity food organization websites, etc. You can go to this website:
Google (new window)
This site will allow you to "search" for what you are looking for! Just remember, a computer is for more than playing games and looking at porn!
Oh, and a good education and how to research is vital to having a successful life, so stay in school! After you get out of high school at least try to get in a college as it will teach you many things!
 
2008-05-20 12:52:12 AM  
The_Sponge: It's common knowledge that a lib will suffer an immediate heart attack if they have a taste of fried food.

*shrugs*

Makes sense to keep it neutral at the event. I'm sure there's a Long John Silver's somewhere in Denver if they're jonezing...
 
2008-05-20 12:53:38 AM  
FTFA:"I think it's a great idea for our community and our environment. The question is, how practical is it?" asks Nick Agro, the owner of Whirled Peas Catering in Commerce City. "We all want to source locally, but we're in Colorado. The growing season is short. It's dry here. And I question the feasibility of that."

You expect political types to let a little thing like reality stop them from achieving their dreams?
 
2008-05-20 01:03:14 AM  
whidbey: The_Sponge: It's common knowledge that a lib will suffer an immediate heart attack if they have a taste of fried food.

*shrugs*

Makes sense to keep it neutral at the event. I'm sure there's a Long John Silver's somewhere in Denver if they're jonezing...



*Chuckle*

Actually, I stole that observation from P.J. O'Rourke. In his book "The Enemies List", somebody recommended that he put Charlie Rose on the list.

P.J.'s response:

Charlie Rose doesn't belong on the list, because he once saw him eating chicken at Popeye's, and that stuff would immediately kill a lib.
 
2008-05-20 01:15:45 AM  
namatad: these people
they are insane
seriously
wtf????

do these tards have NOTHING better to do?

/sigh
/the nutty left has taken over the dems, just like the nutty right has taken over the gop
/you would think that the non-NUTS could form a thrid party and just tell the nuts to got fark theirselves


Look there are nuts on both sides, just as you have pointed out. But nothing is nuttier than this

www.democraticunderground.com

/shamelessly hotlinked photo
//shut it wing nuts
///glass houses, stones, blah blah
 
2008-05-20 01:32:26 AM  
TheDumbBlonde: HansensDisease: The RNC likely has baby hearts and puppy guts on its menu.

Free range baby hearts and puppy guts, with appropriate condiments.


You forgot the marinade! Crushed hopes and dreams of the oppressed coupled with the tears of the poor!

/Classical conservative Republican type
//You gotta be able to make fun of yourself ;)
 
2008-05-20 01:44:14 AM  
Also:

www.extrememortman.com

Approves
NIGEL: No no no no, look- look this- this miniature bread, its like, I've been working with this for about a half an hour now- I can't figure out...You've got this-
IAN: You'd like bigger bread?
NIGEL: Exactly! I don't understand how...
IAN: You could just fold it though...
 
2008-05-20 01:53:34 AM  
Somacandra: mofroe: Other than blue potatoes and blueberries, what other fruits and vegetables are naturally blue? I can't think of any off the top of my head.

Lots of blue/purple stuff out there. Some varieties of Quandong. Purple asparagus, Purple cabbage, Purple carrots, Eggplant, Purple Belgian endive, Purple peppers, Potatoes (purple fleshed) and fruit such as Blackberries, Blueberries, Black currants, Dried plums, Elderberries, Purple figs, Purple grapes, Plums and Raisins. (new window)

GIS is your friend.


Blue corn tortillas & chips. Red salsa, w/sour cream.
 
2008-05-20 02:00:13 AM  
steelpeg: Torc: So your sister is the head bagger at the Food King and that makes you an expert on organic farming?

HAHAHAHA...you are funny!! Try using that computer to look at the WHO (I'm sorry, the World Health Organization) website, scientific journal websites, charity food organization websites, etc. You can go to this website:
Google (new window)
This site will allow you to "search" for what you are looking for! Just remember, a computer is for more than playing games and looking at porn!
Oh, and a good education and how to research is vital to having a successful life, so stay in school! After you get out of high school at least try to get in a college as it will teach you many things!


Whatever, Sparky. Yeah, use the Google thingy to look up some statistics on farm subsidies and the cost of growing extra food in comparison to the cost of transporting the food to starving nations overseas. Go ahead and find me those reports that say lack of farmland in the United States is a bigger cause of hunger than political causes, and that organic farming is even as remotely responsible for grain shortages as our overconsumption of meat. And while you're there, let me know how much lower the global malnutrition rates were in the 70s before Whole Foods came along, and find those WHO reports that expound on the evils of organic farming. You have the link and know how to spell, much to everybody's amazement, so it should be simple. Then find me those news reports that explain how all the conservatives wanted to grow extra food and give it to the poor free of charge, but they were thwarted by all the selfish liberals who wanted organic food. Until then, just fark off you useless goddamn retard.
 
2008-05-20 02:22:17 AM  
sonnyboy11: namatad: these people
they are insane
seriously
wtf????

do these tards have NOTHING better to do?

/sigh
/the nutty left has taken over the dems, just like the nutty right has taken over the gop
/you would think that the non-NUTS could form a thrid party and just tell the nuts to got fark theirselves

Look there are nuts on both sides, just as you have pointed out. But nothing is nuttier than this



/shamelessly hotlinked photo
//shut it wing nuts
///glass houses, stones, blah blah


The left's nuts believe in giving more money to the poor, eating healthier, and helping the environment. The right's wingnuts believe in internment camps for muslims, more or less permanent war, and monitoring your phone calls for security. Sure, both party have the wingnuts, but the left's are basically harmless to everything but profit margins, and the right's. . . Well, lets just say if I were Iranian I would not be sleeping easy right now.
 
2008-05-20 02:49:47 AM  
Oh God.

I think I'd be more able to stomach the hippy menu if I could eat it without having to listen to the excruciatingly primitive and incorrect nutritional myths that cause them to eat the things they do.
 
2008-05-20 03:02:29 AM  
steelpeg: I LOVE how the DNC is pushing organic foods to help save the environment!

Actually I can't think of any one that advocates organics for "saving the environment", at least at government level. Ironically as your demonizing the DNC(which as far as I know doesn't take a position on organics), the actual source of the boom in organics is purely a function of market forces. There is a market for organically grown produce, there are growers that are providing produce for that market, since the margins at least early on, were large due to scarcity, more people are growing organics to supply a scarce market. Free markets at its best.

BTW not everyone buys organic, because they think it healthier, many do because they feel it tastes better. While I am not an organic nut, I do buy locally grown produce from the farmers in my area when I can and they are in season.

One think I do absolutely think tastes far better is organic(grass fed beef). Cows are not designed to eat corn or soy, they are built to consume grass. Which brings back around, if you really think that organics are the reason we are not growing enough food, lets just stop eating as much meat. Instead of growing vast fields of feed stock, we grew food for human consumption we would easily have enough food to feed the world. Unfortunately it would crush the price of food to the point it would push most growers out of business. That would mean we would have to pay more growers subsidies to not grow food to keep the prices up.
 
2008-05-20 03:33:30 AM  
Shaggy_C: hurt the environment

YAWN
well, if they wanted to NOT "hurt the environment" why the fark are they having a party in RL? why not a virtual convention?
now that would be green

they are hypocrits
local and "organic" is just plain silly, when we are discusing a colossal waste of time and money to pick a candidate
 
2008-05-20 03:44:36 AM  
namatad: Shaggy_C: hurt the environment

YAWN
well, if they wanted to NOT "hurt the environment" why the fark are they having a party in RL? why not a virtual convention?
now that would be green

they are hypocrits
local and "organic" is just plain silly, when we are discusing a colossal waste of time and money to pick a candidate


Ah yes, the grand old notion that any effort to conserve is hypocritical unless you NEVER DO ANYTHING REQUIRING ANY RESOURCES EVER AGAIN.
 
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