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2008-05-18 03:08:46 PM  
quit wanking, you'll pay anything, suck it up.
I haven't paid $4/gal/usd in over a year
EABOD, DIAF etc
 
2008-05-18 03:09:27 PM  
Staggering home drunk in downtown Philly at night. You make a compelling argument. I shall have to think on this.

nah it's not a problem. it's not like i'm walking around north philly. i wouldn't even DRIVE through north philly in broad daylight.
 
2008-05-18 03:11:20 PM  
In order to track down why prices are so high, you'd have to follow the oil from the ground to the pump and and look at the expenses all along the way. BIG OIL is very secretive about that sort of thing.

I am firmly convinced that before November elections, gas prices will DROP and the media will have all sorts of excuses as to why. Plunge Protection Team could be one factor. Former Goldman Sacs CEO turned US Treasury Secretary Paulson got his job around the time the gas prices plummeted in 2006 before the mid-term elections. Goldman-Sacs then dumped billions of oil futures contracts (leading to major loss for the individuals and groups who actually owned the contracts). This dump was supposedly the reason why gas prices dropped.

The price of gold should be much higher than it is. Oil and gold generally have a stable price relationship. With the dollar tanking, and the difficulty of trading in commodities markets, the price of gold should be through the roof. I've read a lot of sources that say the gold market is being manipulated to keep it low. I think after Bush is out, oil prices will drop, and America will forget they were high two months later.

What am I saying? American oligarchic price fixing. I have no proof. Bush going to Saudi Arabia to ask for a supply increase? Genius? Oh its THEIR fault. There is no supply crunch, therefore, there is no economic reason for prices being this high other than outright manipulation by an oil administration that has shown no ethics when it comes to war profiteering via no-bid contracts to their own companies.

Just you wait. Save this post. Gas prices February 12, 2009? $2.79 a gallon.

Gold will probably rise in 2009.
 
2008-05-18 03:11:57 PM  
reggaejunkiejew: THIS SUCKS!!
My Nissan gets about 28mpg as it is, and its payed off... so there is no real way for me to save any money unless i got an old pos that would probably be less reliable. Like a 10 y/o honda civic might get me 35mpg, but so what? Thats only saving maybe 10 dollars a fillup for the same range, and i lose my car that i like for something not as enjoyable. I'd really like to get a smart car, but even if my payments were only 100 bucks a month, that plus gas would be the same as im paying for just gas now, and id have less cargo space.


Yeah, but you could commute in the Smart (it's purpose) and use your Nissan for hauling. It wouldn't be that bad.
 
2008-05-18 03:14:58 PM  
The price fixing could be nothing more than rich people telling their rich friends to print in their oligarchic media that the sky is falling, causing the sky to fall.

THIS is why media regulation is very important, and why the elite of the GOP likes to get rid of it as much as possible.
 
2008-05-18 03:17:33 PM  
Farking Sweet: TeddyRooseveltsMustache: The end of the giant SUV is near. Prepare accordingly.

Yeah, you all can have your aluminum cans. I pray to the gods you never have to encounter one of these driven by an ADD bi polar soccer mom off her meds on the cell phone smacking her kid in the back seat.

Remember folks people were predicting doom and gloom in the early 70s when there were gas lines. How much is your safety worth?


So what, you mean to tell me that you actually think I'm going to get into a collision with the cartoon SUV from the Simpsons. You ACTUALLY think that? Well, then it's time to hand this out:

www.eckernet.com

In recogition of the inclusion of a fictional vehicle in your post, I hereby award you this Red Forman dumbass award for outstanding stupidity. Congratulations, you've earned it.
 
2008-05-18 03:18:34 PM  
Eponymous:
For all of you that get pissed about the price of gas, think about the last time you bought bottled water or a $4 cup of coffee...and ththen think about it's comparative price per gallon.


Hey dumbass, I don't need 10 gallons of bottled water or coffee to get to work each week.

/well mabye the coffee
 
2008-05-18 03:21:32 PM  
cjdusa: I have a Chevy HHR SUV. I get 31 miles to the gallon on the highway.

I haven't been able to make up my mind about those until 5 seconds ago
 
2008-05-18 03:23:50 PM  

Need any more proof that Bush is an oil crook?


Dubya gets his start in oil


We're being shafted America. Turn off your RICH MAN MEDIA, and ignore the propaganda and lies. We are getting the shaft. It is not Hummers and it is not the Middle East.

 
2008-05-18 03:27:25 PM  
Farking Sweet: Remember folks people were predicting doom and gloom in the early 70s when there were gas lines. How much is your safety worth?

I wasn't there for the 70's. I put my safety in the hands of products that are actually manufactured and tested for this very purpose instead of just surrounding myself with a giant chunk of metal, where instead of making sure it would be structurally sound in an accident the manufacturer just said "okay that will probably be enough metal to keep any other vehicle from entering the passenger area" and praying they wouldn't get sued as they watched the crash tests and saw the reality of the situation while biting their nails nervously. The American companies have been selling rolling wrecking balls for years and nobody's called them out on it because it gives people a false illusion of safety.
 
2008-05-18 03:29:23 PM  
Thunderpipes this is for you buddy. epic troll of this thread. also, excellent use of the words liberal, libtard and emo whenever you clearly have nothing else to back up your points

cdn-www.answerbag.com
 
2008-05-18 03:30:34 PM  
Ford F-150:
www.vmunix.com

Mini Cooper:
www.unixville.com

Yeah, I'd rather be in the Mini.
 
2008-05-18 03:57:21 PM  
a675.ac-images.myspacecdn.com

55 mpg

And I live 1.7 miles from work so I usually walk.
 
2008-05-18 03:59:49 PM  
Headso: Shaggy_C: Headso: maybe Alex Jones is right!

jews did wtc

no, the one about the "global elite" pushing up oil prices as a means of population control and to pull wealth out of the middle class and bring it back to the rich...


When you destroy the middle class you have plenty of soldiers to fight the wars you need to keep the world in turmoil and people in their place. Comfortable, secure middle class means no one wants to fight for their nation anymore (damned cowards!). That obviously cannot be allowed. The nerve of the middle class to use their new fangled internets and have their voice heard!!! just who do they think they are?
 
2008-05-18 04:07:19 PM  
JonBuck: If this really is a bubble, the price is going to crash really hard at some point. But if that point is $130 or $150 a barrel, I can't say.

It happened in 2006, Google "Amaranth Advisors". Lost 6.5 Billion. Some of these so called investment funds (casino cartels) are going to wash down the drain with untold billions of speculator money.
 
2008-05-18 04:10:17 PM  
I can't wait for Barak Obama to become President because you know, he and a Democrat controlled Congress will fix everything...

Cheap gas and food and free healthcare for all!!!!!!


Well....that's what a bunch of idiots tell me anyway......

Obama '08!

yeah baby....it's gonna be so great
 
2008-05-18 04:19:19 PM  
theredsea1 2008-05-18 03:23:50 PM
Need any more proof that Bush is an oil crook?



Why YES!!!! I need more proof, but first your dumbass needs to know the history or gas prices based on inflation. Yes, they're at their highest point ever right now, but they have been exceptionally high in the past, including during the terms of Harry Truman, Dwight Eisenhower, Jimmy Carter and Bill Clinton.

Are all of those men " oil crooks " too?

Now before your dumbass tries to answer you need to know that at NO time in our history before now have we had to compete for oil supplies with countries like China and India.

So how do you explain the " high prices " during these other points in our history.

I expect a cogent, thoughtful and ( most especially ) TRUTHFULL response. Let me rephrase that, I HOPE for a cogent, thoughtful and ( most especially ) TRUTHFULL response. I expect nothing of the sort.

Obama '08...he'll fix everything!!!

or so the idiots tell me anyway......
 
2008-05-18 04:20:13 PM  
TeddyRooseveltsMustache: Ford F-150:


Mini Cooper:


Yeah, I'd rather be in the Mini.


That is a 1996 Ford F-150. The new one is stronger in bending and twisting than a railroad truss. Yet that crash test is one reason to keep from hitting trees or brick walls.

I think the F-150 into the Mini would be a much more reasonable senario.
 
2008-05-18 04:32:11 PM  
Does Thunderpipes actually believe what he says?

It sounds as if he's on a quest for some sort of troll award.
Some of your comments are blatantly stupid man. You've been called out on every single point you make and you still won't shut up.

how old are you?
 
2008-05-18 04:42:37 PM  
Farking Sweet: TeddyRooseveltsMustache: Ford F-150:


Mini Cooper:


Yeah, I'd rather be in the Mini.

That is a 1996 Ford F-150. The new one is stronger in bending and twisting than a railroad truss. Yet that crash test is one reason to keep from hitting trees or brick walls.

I think the F-150 into the Mini would be a much more reasonable senario.


I don't really care. Ford makes junk. They just recalled all of their F-150's for a brake problem. To hell with them and their fan base.
 
2008-05-18 04:43:17 PM  
miltoncharles: Fuggin Bizzy: I've often wondered how much oil & gas we could save if everyone just used some common sense on the road:

1. Slow down. Why are you in such a damn hurry anyway?
2. Stop commuting with an 8-cylinder engine. I know big engines are needed for big jobs, but a Ford Expedition isn't necessary for commuting.
3. Don't let your car idle for 20 minutes while you're picking up your kid at daycare.
4. Park and go into the fast-food joint instead of idling for another 20 minutes in the drive-thru line.
5. Carpool, goddammit.
6. If the errand you're running is within six blocks, and no heavy cargo is involved either way, walk or bike.

Realistically, the only thing that'll force people to change their driving habits is expensive gas. So good on it.

7. Complain to someone until they fix the farkin' traffic lights. I can't tell you how many times I'm sitting at some dumbass light that has turned red for NO cross traffic. So, I sit there and burn off a dollar's worth of gas for phantom cars.

/anal about traffic lights
//doubly anal about stop signs on thru streets put there just to slow traffic down.


Play a couple marathon sessions of GTA4. Your perception about traffic will .. change.
 
2008-05-18 04:55:23 PM  
ZzeusS: miltoncharles: Fuggin Bizzy: I've often wondered how much oil & gas we could save if everyone just used some common sense on the road:

1. Slow down. Why are you in such a damn hurry anyway?
2. Stop commuting with an 8-cylinder engine. I know big engines are needed for big jobs, but a Ford Expedition isn't necessary for commuting.
3. Don't let your car idle for 20 minutes while you're picking up your kid at daycare.
4. Park and go into the fast-food joint instead of idling for another 20 minutes in the drive-thru line.
5. Carpool, goddammit.
6. If the errand you're running is within six blocks, and no heavy cargo is involved either way, walk or bike.

Realistically, the only thing that'll force people to change their driving habits is expensive gas. So good on it.

7. Complain to someone until they fix the farkin' traffic lights. I can't tell you how many times I'm sitting at some dumbass light that has turned red for NO cross traffic. So, I sit there and burn off a dollar's worth of gas for phantom cars.

/anal about traffic lights
//doubly anal about stop signs on thru streets put there just to slow traffic down.

Play a couple marathon sessions of GTA4. Your perception about traffic will .. change.


You're an idiot. GTA 4 is a videogame.
 
2008-05-18 04:59:01 PM  
And none of this is because India and China are using more oil as their economies expand
 
2008-05-18 05:03:11 PM  
It's just training for the apololypse.
 
2008-05-18 05:05:50 PM  
This (new window)

Compelling evidence also suggests that the oft-cited geopolitical, economic, and natural factors do not explain the recent rise in energy prices can be seen in the actual data on crude oil supply and demand. Although demand has significantly increased over the past few years, so have supplies.


Over the past couple of years global crude oil production has increased along with the increases in demand; in fact, during this period global supplies have exceeded demand, according to the US Department of Energy. The US Department of Energy's Energy Information Administration (EIA) recently forecast that in the next few years global surplus production capacity will continue to grow to between 3 and 5 million barrels per day by 2010, thereby "substantially thickening the surplus capacity cushion."

 
2008-05-18 05:13:41 PM  
Dear Rural and Suburban America: your lifestyle depended on cheap gas, and yet you voted overwhelmingly for an oil man, and then voted for him again after he disrupted one of the largest competing oil reserves on the planet.

And NOW you're complaining about the high price?

You got exactly what you voted for.

Hey, here's an idea...you've lost at the casino by doubling down...go for a third time and vote McCain!

My energy portfolio will thank you from its bottom line.
 
2008-05-18 05:13:49 PM  
Thunderpipes: But it is still highly amusing to watch emo liberals cry and cry and cry over things they praised under Clinton. Liberals are simply weak minded people raised being spoon fed, of course you hate anything that doesn't appease you!

And conservatives DON'T?

Freakin' mouth-breather zealots....ALL of you.
 
2008-05-18 05:24:57 PM  

I love these threads. I love how thunderpipes always posts his under the hood porn. I ride bicycles too, but this is my daily driver.

iampix.bmezine.com

60mpg and I'll still blow your muscle car off the line. Hit the twisties and you'll lose sight of me.

 
2008-05-18 05:25:51 PM  
Aside from the troll surge in this thread, it is a necessary thread.

I live in a North East US suburb. Ya there are a lot of hummers and rovers and F350s in town. But I've noticed a few things recently.

1. I live on a really busy street. Today I counted five mopeds/scooters drive by. Today was the first time I had even seen one in my neighborhood.

2. Many people are trying to sell their gas hogs here.

3. As I was waiting for the bus the other day, I noticed a big Range Rover fill up and then drive away. The hilarious thing was how slow he pulled away from the station. It was 6am and he was driving like a little old lady. Hitting the pedal hard does eat gas, no?

I'm pretty lucky though, I just landed a dream job five miles from my house. I walk it. Or take the bus on rainy days. This Summer I'll probably ride my bike. I hope everyone who has this option takes it. Spend the money on what matters: music and booze.
 
2008-05-18 05:27:32 PM  
theredsea1: We're being shafted America. Turn off your RICH MAN MEDIA, and ignore the propaganda and lies. We are getting the shaft. It is not Hummers and it is not the Middle East.

Speak for yourself. I spent 40% less on gas this year to date than I spent last year. It's down 60% from the year before that. If you're getting the shaft, I'd suggest you get a bicycle/bus pass/Smartcar like the rest of the intelligent people...
 
2008-05-18 05:31:44 PM  
Elfich:

Goldman-Sachs recently adjusted its price forecasting for the rest of the year. It was predicting an average oil price of $141/barrel for the second half of the year. That runs to about $4.75-$5.00/gallon. Start budgeting now.

you don't have a clue what you are talking about. the only reason gasoline prices are as high as they are is because GWB is allowing his buddies in big oil to get rich before he leaves office.

barack obama will bring oil down to $30/bbl and once he is president, gasoline will be under $1/ gal.
 
2008-05-18 05:43:38 PM  
Music, Booze, Pawt and MGS4

It's gonna be a good summer
 
2008-05-18 05:44:50 PM  
chuggernaught 2008-05-18 04:59:01 PM
And none of this is because India and China are using more oil as their economies expand



OMG....." none of this ?? "

wow, you couldn't possibly know less about commodities could you?

You REALLY believe that countries the size of China and India, with economies growing exponentially and with that, a ravenous hunger for crude oil will have absolutely NO effect on the per barrel price?

You may believe it, but you're COMPLETELY WRONG.


See, as long as there is this type of ignorance out there, there will be no shortage of dumbasses that buy into the " Bush the crooked oil man " nonsense as the reason for the high price of gas.

Obama '08 - he'll fix everything!

Or that's what a bunch of idiots tell me anyway.
 
2008-05-18 05:47:32 PM  
chuggernaught 2008-05-18 04:59:01 PM
And none of this is because India and China are using more oil as their economies expand



OMG....." none of this ?? "

wow, you couldn't possibly know less about commodities could you?

You REALLY believe that countries the size of China and India, with economies growing exponentially and with that, a ravenous hunger for crude oil will have absolutely NO effect on the per barrel price?

You may believe it, but you're COMPLETELY WRONG.


See, as long as there is this type of ignorance out there, there will be no shortage of dumbasses that buy into the " Bush the crooked oil man " nonsense as the reason for the high price of gas.

Look, I don't mind seeing fools suffer for their ignorance. In fact, I rather enjoy it. I just don't think the rest of us should have to.

Obama '08 - he'll fix everything!

Or that's what a bunch of idiots tell me anyway.
 
2008-05-18 05:52:49 PM  
PunGent 2008-05-18 05:13:41 PM
Dear Rural and Suburban America: your lifestyle depended on cheap gas, and yet you voted overwhelmingly for an oil man, and then voted for him again after he disrupted one of the largest competing oil reserves on the planet.

And NOW you're complaining about the high price?

You got exactly what you voted for.



Excuse me Mr. Smart guy. Can you please explain in detail how Bush " the oil man " is responsible for the high price of crude on the WORLD MARKET???

And can you also explain why gasoline was only slightly lower than it is now ( adjusted for inflation ) during the Truman, Eisenhower, Carter and Clinton Administrations????

Are they all " oil men ? "


In other words, you are an ignorant fool.

There is one question however that you can answer as an expert:

I've always wanted to know exactly HOW someone " talks out of their ass " and does it hurt?
 
2008-05-18 06:00:37 PM  
We've already passed the breaking point on Diesel prices ($4 a gallon), and small trucking companies are folding left and right. Owner operators are selling their rigs because they cannot afford to drive them any more.

This summer will see a destruction of tourism from Americans (but a rise from foreigners, if they don't mind having their DNA sampled and fingerprints taken) 100x as devastating as the anti-smoking ban sweeping across America.

Mark my words, bad times are coming. Scratch that.

Bad times are here.
 
2008-05-18 06:02:35 PM  
ThinBlueLine:Stop biatching. Start a revolution.

To accomplish what? The current situation is largely a result of poor decisions made in the past. Simply changing the leadership won't undo the problems that have been created. For decades, our entire society is designed to be dependent on oil -- regardless of who is in charge at any given moment.

Also, I'm afraid (and hopefully I'm wrong) that the long-term "solutions" to the finite-nature of petroleum reserves will be not only more expensive, but they'll require the diversion of at least a portion of the land required for food production. In short, I don't believe that (in the long run) it will be possible to sustain 6.5+ billion people w/o essentially "free" energy that you can pump from the ground.

As a chemical engineering undergrad student at the University of Wisconsin, our senior design project was to design a biomass -> natural gas/gasoline plant using the Fischer Tropsch process. It was certainly possible, and the economics weren't really all that bad (I think the break-even price was ~3.something/gallon), but it would require a fair amount of fast-growing poplar/aspen trees as raw materials.

/we would have been able to make Wisconsin energy independent
//but it would have taken the diversion of a portion of the crop land to do it
///hence less food for export, higher prices, etc -- effects that wouldn't be critical locally, but (if this happened on a large scale) would probably ripple out & affect the poorer nations severely
 
2008-05-18 06:06:49 PM  
Farking Sweet: How much is your safety worth?

SUVs aren't safe. They're manly and sexy and you can keep your kids real far away from you because you hate your kids. You can also drive on the shredded asphalt caused by a combination of other SUVs and lack of infrastructure funding.

www.tsc.berkeley.edu

SUVs and pickups are no safer than many cars half their size, and it depends on which specific model you buy. The Ford F150, for instance, used to have the highest driver injury rating of any vehicle made. The engine would come through into the passenger compartment. SUV frames are not made like car frames, they pass the energy of the crash directly into the cabin. On top of that, they brake and handle like dogs, resulting in getting in accidents you could have avoided in another car.

SUV drivers think they're being safe at the expense of other cars on the road (which is psychopathic if you think about it), but they're not even doing that. They are sacrificing everyone's safety, including their own, for the privilege of paying more for gas.
 
2008-05-18 06:07:48 PM  
libbynomore2:Obama '08 - he'll fix everything!

His miraculous "manipulate reality" ray seems to be working quite well already -- I'd say it's possible.

/ okay, probably not
// but I cannot vote for McCain -- that would just be waiting another 4 years to begin dealing with our problems
/// for some reason, Republicans seem to ignore problems that can't simply be bombed
 
2008-05-18 06:26:13 PM  
jshine: His miraculous "manipulate reality" ray seems to be working quite well already -- I'd say it's possible.

/ okay, probably not
// but I cannot vote for McCain -- that would just be waiting another 4 years to begin dealing with our problems
/// for some reason, Republicans seem to ignore problems that can't simply be bombed



some people are soooo stupid. don't you pay attention to ANYTHING that has been discussed during the primaries?

the only reason things are bad in this country is because karl rove and dick cheney told george bush to hate black people. as a result, george bush created global warming and also created diseases to kill black people ('god damn america' is in the bible. trust me. the press has checked out everything jeremiah wright said and the only bad things were made up by white people who hate blacks).

once obama is president, the government will quit making diseases to kill blacks, the jews will let the palestians have their land back and we will start talking with bin laden, chavez, etc and we will agree on everything before we do it.

once the leaders of world's nations agree on things before we do them, the iranians will love us and they will have a big 4th of july party and decide to lower oil prices to $30/bbl. gasoline will be cheap again and global warming will go away. oh, and the polar bears will be saved so they will come to the 4th of july party, because they will like us again.

only white people will have to pay taxes and poor people will not only not have to work, but they will also get a raise. and free health benefits. and three weeks vacation. and i think free cable tv.
 
2008-05-18 06:55:43 PM  
Yes, thank you Republicans. Can't wait for gas to hit $6/gallon by December. And please, vote wisely again in November because I want 4 more years of this crap.
 
2008-05-18 07:12:25 PM  
More people need
to carpool. This will lower the price of gas. RideSearch.com is a free nationwide carpool matching web site.
 
2008-05-18 07:18:04 PM  
senseiknight: Yes, thank you Republicans. Can't wait for gas to hit $6/gallon by December. And please, vote wisely again in November because I want 4 more years of this crap.

With a Republican president and Republican Congress, gas prices doubled in 6 years.

With a Republican president and Democrat Congress, gas prices doubled again in just 2 years.

Democrats are much more efficient, it seems.
 
2008-05-18 07:20:49 PM  
Obama needs to be shot in the streets by a pro-Republican group or a Hillary maniac so that McCain can win the election so that Exxon stock keep rising. Obama is nothing but the anti-Christ. I want four more years of this crap so that I can spit on the poor and people whine about gas prices. Why should gas prices be low? Things aren't free. I want the elite to rule the world and take over Heaven. Republican Jesus will rise again. Yeeeaaahhh!
 
2008-05-18 07:25:00 PM  
nerfball:the only reason things are bad in this country is because karl rove and dick cheney told george bush to hate black people

Bush caused the most harm to the country not by outlandish schemes or overly-aggressive military invasions, but through simple inaction. Sure, Iraq is a SNAFU, but it's nothing compared to what may be around the corner.

By ignoring the issues that really matter -- or will matter in a few years -- he has exacerbated the problems that we're just now starting to be confronted with. ...and I don't hear anything from McCain that makes me thing he has a firm grasp on reality either.

For instance, a leader with wisdom and foresight would have done more to address the impending (present?) energy crisis. Simply allowing the market to act is irresponsible, given that the magnitude & long-term nature of the problem.
 
2008-05-18 07:27:56 PM  
Saturn5:Democrats are much more efficient, it seems.

Regardless of who sits in the White House, there's less oil in the ground every day.

It should be no surprise that prices increase as we deplete a vital but finite resource.
 
2008-05-18 07:34:34 PM  
Saturn5: senseiknight: Yes, thank you Republicans. Can't wait for gas to hit $6/gallon by December. And please, vote wisely again in November because I want 4 more years of this crap.

With a Republican president and Republican Congress, gas prices doubled in 6 years.

With a Republican president and Democrat Congress, gas prices doubled again in just 2 years.

Democrats are much more efficient, it seems.



Welcome to the after shocks from the Republican Congress. (new window)
 
2008-05-18 07:36:06 PM  
mccallcl:
SUV drivers think they're being safe at the expense of other cars on the road (which is psychopathic if you think about it), but they're not even doing that.


If people choose to ride with their shoulders and heads at bumper height of what is currently the majority of vehicles on the road that is their choice. Ford and GM were selling over 700k full size pickups annually and there are millions more used on the road right now. That is not counting SUVs. Millions more on the used car lots right now, low enough in price for "buy here, pay here" financing. We are coming up on an era of poorly maintaned SUVs. Like that 1998 Exploder in the other lane on original Firestone tires. Or that 2002 Expedition tailgating your Smart Car with grinding rear brakes and worn out shocks.

I would like to see the US more like Europe with sporty small fun turbodiesel cars but for the next 10 years we will see these large vehicles as the majority of traffic.

From what I have heard Firefighters and Police Officers usually only put their famlies in big trucks. They respond to these tragedys on the highways on a daily basis, and if it is good for them it is good for me. How is that psychopathic to want to protect ones self?

My last vehicle was a 2004 Mazda RX-8 and I have always been a sports car kind of guy. I even had a '92 Miata. I am just glad I survived those days. Only thing worse than that in an accident would have been a motorcycle.

/Kid free
 
2008-05-18 07:42:18 PM  
Thunderpipes: 14.8 mpg last tank. Gas prices don't bother me at all. Just posting this because I love reading hippies screaming and crying about a few bucks a week, who still have no idea how to manahe their money or energy use.

Oddly enough, the second gen (late 80s) RX-7's are supposed to get something like 15mpg on 1.3L engines, and make crap for power to boot. I think they produce more hippie tears per gallon than your car does, or at least they should.

Besides, at least you can see over it. Most my hatred of SUVs is the ponderous bulk. This lady at work drives this empty land yacht in every day. One of those $8,000 late-comer status symbols that we're all "jealous" of. She can barely maneuver the thing, and has to do 3 point turns just to get into a parking space.

It's near impossible to safely u-turn when one is opposite you in the median.
 
2008-05-18 07:43:29 PM  
nerfball: Elfich:

Goldman-Sachs recently adjusted its price forecasting for the rest of the year. It was predicting an average oil price of $141/barrel for the second half of the year. That runs to about $4.75-$5.00/gallon. Start budgeting now.

you don't have a clue what you are talking about. the only reason gasoline prices are as high as they are is because GWB is allowing his buddies in big oil to get rich before he leaves office.

barack obama will bring oil down to $30/bbl and once he is president, gasoline will be under $1/ gal.


"you don't have a clue what you are talking about."


Followed up with silly conspiracy theory to replace rational market explanation...Hmmm... I see you in there troll!
www.sideshowtoy.com
 
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