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(Guardian)   Sixty-eight per cent of Italians want gypsies expelled. You know who else hated gypsies?   (guardian.co.uk) divider line 340
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2008-05-17 11:49:08 AM  
Driver: the voices in your head: Tramps and thieves are still ok, though?

wanago bob: What about the tramps and thieves?


Looks like you two are Cher-ing the same idea.


Came in here to make a comment about the people of the town, and the somewhat ambivalent reaction of the men, every night.
 
2008-05-17 11:49:24 AM  
Raskolnikov's Angst: Guidos marginalizing others because they're different?



That's rich coming from them.


That hair...

images.jupiterimages.com

But yeah, despite everything, I don't think generalization is a good thing. Ever.

/There has to be decent gypsies
//Just like everyone else we're not a freaking mold
 
2008-05-17 11:49:40 AM  
bikkurikun: hate for gypsies blacks hasn't got much to do with ethnicity, it has to do with the fact that many of the motherfarkers are thieves.

Do you agree with that statement as well?
 
2008-05-17 11:50:08 AM  
looking to make the population... ummmm... Thinner?

www.thebuzzbin.com
 
2008-05-17 11:50:09 AM  
When I was in Rome, I saw female Gypsies hold dolls being for money to help feed her "baby"; four young Gypsies also had the same silly note saying she needed help getting her sister out of the Ukraine.
I laughed and said no; they left me alone.
 
2008-05-17 11:50:45 AM  
i231.photobucket.com
 
2008-05-17 11:50:52 AM  
Raskolnikov's Angst: Guidos marginalizing others because they're different?

Guidos are only guilty of bad taste. Gypsies are guilty of picking pockets, scamming tourists, and deforming their children's feet so that as beggars they get more sympathy from passers by.
 
2008-05-17 11:51:10 AM  
dahmers love zombie: Came in here to make a comment about the people of the town, and the somewhat ambivalent reaction of the men

Well lay you money down
 
OZZ
2008-05-17 11:51:26 AM  
When you are hated and despised as thieves and criminals throughout all of history and in multiple geographic regions maybe there is some truth in it.
 
2008-05-17 11:51:40 AM  
Italian: Not competant enough to be Nazis, not successful enough to be Communists.
 
2008-05-17 11:52:23 AM  
Britain fights back.
 
2008-05-17 11:52:52 AM  
OZZ: When you are hated and despised as thieves and criminals throughout all of history and in multiple geographic regions maybe there is some truth in it.

Yeah, like the Jews, and the Irish!

If enough people are assholes to you, it makes you a jerk!

Wait, what?
 
2008-05-17 11:53:37 AM  
I am a direct descendant of the Roma (Y-DNA haplogroup H) so I'm getting-a kicked-a outta Italy.
 
2008-05-17 11:54:30 AM  
Commander Lysdexic: Italian: Not competant enough to be Nazis, not successful enough to be Communists.

I don't think they're that either. They're into football (soccer) and life, and ride around in vespas going "ciao!".

/Nnnnnnnnnnnn!
//Obscure?
 
2008-05-17 11:54:34 AM  
Suicidal Writer: lcmino: I'm pretty sure everyone in Europe hates gypsies, at least everyone I've ever talked to about it.

There is no hate in Europe anymore.


Correct me if I'm wrong, but no other region in the World has seen so much war and hate in the last few centuries than Europe, we've got no one to point a finger at.
That said, people here would never mingle with Gypsies, since they are often mistrusted, but what is happening in Italy is beyond reason. That pic in TFA isn't showing half of what is happening there now.
I suspect it has a lot to do with the baby that was almost stolen, governments that have too little control over illegal immigration, illegals going into crime because "they don't have a choice", and age-old myths about "traveling" people (travelers as they're called in England). Anyone speak Italian?
 
2008-05-17 11:57:38 AM  
"First they came for the gypsies..."

/sad
//very sad indeed
 
2008-05-17 11:58:47 AM  
I'm of Romani descent so I am definately not getting a kick out of this...


/Hate Cher
?? Hexes for all you prejudicial farkers~
 
2008-05-17 11:59:05 AM  
"thinner!"
www.cbmphoto.co.uk
 
2008-05-17 11:59:34 AM  
Oh oh! I think I know -- Hitler, right?

If I'm wrong, may lightning strike my crystal balls
 
2008-05-17 11:59:50 AM  
iccky: Yup. And Americans hate black people because they're a bunch of thugged out crack heads who want to sleep with our white women.

All the same I wouldn't want to stroll through Watts at midnight.
 
2008-05-17 12:00:08 PM  
I was attacked by gypsies in Roma and was saved by an Italian who made them scatter like roaches.

no offense to actual roaches with the comparison.
 
2008-05-17 12:00:12 PM  
My ex-girlfriend was mugged by gypsies when she visited Rome, so I'm getting a kick out of these replies...
 
2008-05-17 12:01:21 PM  
Those "&" should be slashies...

/Note to self, no picking pockets before my first cup of coffee...
 
2008-05-17 12:01:39 PM  
MeanJean: "First they came for the gypsies..."

/sad
//very sad indeed


if they ever did come for the gypsies, they did a pretty bad job, and might need to try it again. this time, no mistakes.

: )
 
2008-05-17 12:01:56 PM  
In a second poll, 81% of Italian respondents said they found all Gypsies, Romanian or not, "barely likeable or not likeable at all", a greater number than the 64% who said they felt the same way about non-Gypsy Romanians.

What the hell is this? Do you like so-and-so, check yes or no? We did this in gradeschool. Ugh. Stop the world, I wanna get off.
 
2008-05-17 12:02:31 PM  
quiet_american: if they ever did come for the gypsies, they did a pretty bad job, and might need to try it again. this time, no mistakes.

Lol! Laughing about genocide is funny!

You're scum.
 
2008-05-17 12:02:35 PM  
Obdicut: OZZ: When you are hated and despised as thieves and criminals throughout all of history and in multiple geographic regions maybe there is some truth in it.

Yeah, like the Jews, and the Irish!

If enough people are assholes to you, it makes you a jerk!

Wait, what?


Yeah!

I mean, NO!

I mean....

Ah, God; why does hatred so often trump everything else as the cardinal value? Sometimes I'm embarrassed to be human.

/Irish
//Not fond of tales of persecution based on heritage or religion
///We're a gentle and sensitive lot, see, "Crying Game, The"
 
2008-05-17 12:03:39 PM  
Commander Lysdexic: Italian: Not competant enough to be Nazis, not successful enough to be Communists.

I bet they can spell "competent", you stupid f-(k
 
2008-05-17 12:03:46 PM  
I really need the coffee, apparently, would any of you fine folks perchance be willing to help a poor gypsy? ~holds out his mug.~
 
2008-05-17 12:03:50 PM  
They should move the Gypsies to their native country Serbia.


/Two great movies by Kusturica:
Time of Gypsies (NSFW)
Black Cat, White Cat
 
2008-05-17 12:06:29 PM  
Hey Aeonic_Blue - Is that who I think it is?

"Gypsies! Ptah! We will speak of them no more!"
 
2008-05-17 12:07:10 PM  
gypsie tears are the best jew deterrant
 
2008-05-17 12:07:24 PM  
Back in January there was a Gypsy kid in Hungary who knifed another kid, but due to Hungarian laws, he couldn't be charged with a crime since he was 12, so after realizing he was from Romania, the authorities deported him. Then a Hungarian camera crew went to the kid's village, and was mugged on camera.
 
2008-05-17 12:07:29 PM  
CygnusDarius: The girl bit her hand but still she wouldn't let go. The people around her would yell that she gave the bag back, and suddenly it flew away. She took it and the girl ran off.

I hate when some farker starts with a story that I bother to read, and then closes with a line or two that are so effed up I have to read them seven times, and still can't quite figure out what the hell they meant.

Don't tease me with your poorly proofread anecdotes!
 
2008-05-17 12:08:10 PM  
Obdicut: quiet_american: if they ever did come for the gypsies, they did a pretty bad job, and might need to try it again. this time, no mistakes.

Lol! Laughing about genocide is funny!

You're scum.


I'm going to cremate a million Jews and one clown.
 
2008-05-17 12:08:35 PM  
CygnusDarius

Izzard, anyone?
 
2008-05-17 12:11:22 PM  
How about just making it socially / legally acceptable to beat muggers and pickpockets to within an inch of their lives?

/regardless of age
 
2008-05-17 12:12:03 PM  
Italians (I mean people living/born and raised in Italy, I don't care about your ancestry) are pretty racist. As are most Euro-folk. Common misconception that racism in America is any worse off than over there.


I should know. My Italian friend is hilariously racist/nationalist, and she's still pretty open minded compared to most people.

But yeah, the Gypsies, no one wants 'em.
 
2008-05-17 12:12:42 PM  
Obdicut: quiet_american: if they ever did come for the gypsies, they did a pretty bad job, and might need to try it again. this time, no mistakes.

Lol! Laughing about genocide is funny!

You're scum.


I'll laugh at the gypsies as I avenge the genocide of a million wallets taken, a billion hustles, and apparently quite a few lawnchairs and home invasions avenged.

I can haz gypsy home addresses?
 
2008-05-17 12:13:12 PM  
the voices in your head: I'm going to cremate a million Jews and one clown.

Why the million Jews?
 
2008-05-17 12:14:31 PM  
Skyrmion: the voices in your head: I'm going to cremate a million Jews and one clown.

Why the million Jews?


They taste delicious.
 
2008-05-17 12:15:20 PM  
Skyrmion: How about just making it socially / legally acceptable to beat muggers and pickpockets to within an inch of their lives?

/regardless of age

And what do we do when you go an inch too far and there is no life left in the 8 year old pickpocket?
 
2008-05-17 12:15:24 PM  
Just listened to a Dutch correspondent who was there, 4 camps were "burned to the ground so to speak" (quoting). A few reasons she mentions:

- Italians are very family-oriented, and there's general talk in Italy that "Gypsies steal babies to sell them", so this effectively happening inside someone's house was what fired off the hate.
- Italy, together with countries like Spain and Portugal are one of the first countries where immigrants go to; there's a continuous influx from Moroccans, Romanians (lots of them Gypsies), ... since Romania joined the EU, 500.000 illegals from that country alone are often staying in shabby camps ... which scares local people a tad bit.
- Amongst the illegals there's lots of prostitution, dealing, drugs, criminality, ... .
- Lega Nord is proposing to make illegality punishable through law; if you don't come in through regular means you could then be arrested (prisons are full).
- Berlusconi would love to make this a welcome opportunity.
 
xav
2008-05-17 12:17:42 PM  
We hate foreign criminals because they take away work from our own. The current government is full of outlaws so they are now trying to send illegals away.
 
2008-05-17 12:19:21 PM  
sweetmelissa31: Gypsies mugged me in Rome, so I'd want them out too.

This thread has been great for enabling me to Farky people as racists.
 
2008-05-17 12:19:54 PM  
Countries used to have boudaries for a reason.

Now all the mixup creates racial tension

But businesses have their cheap labor,
economy grows and we all win. right?
 
2008-05-17 12:20:47 PM  
What I don't get is how their claimed cultural traditions change like a chameleon. In Britain they claim it is their culture to travel around like nomads and refuse to live in houses, demanding the government protects their rights.

In Finland, they claim it is their culture to "retire" at about school-leaving age and to wear a traditional costume. The government has agreed to protect their "culture" so they are somehow allowed to get all their money from state handouts (conveniently Sweden has done the same thing, so many of them seem to spend their lives "commuting" on the ferries between Sweden and Finland, collecting money from both countries).

However, the gypsies in Britain do not wear traditional costume and the ones in Finland live in houses and appartments...what a total con!!!
 
2008-05-17 12:21:17 PM  
You know who else hated gypsies?

The Palestinians?
 
2008-05-17 12:21:58 PM  
Obdicut: sweetmelissa31: Gypsies mugged me in Rome, so I'd want them out too.

This thread has been great for enabling me to Farky people as racists.


wow, you are such a great fighter for social justice!

lol, jk, you're a tool.
 
2008-05-17 12:24:14 PM  
SarcasticBard: Back in January there was a Gypsy kid in Hungary who knifed another kid, but due to Hungarian laws, he couldn't be charged with a crime since he was 12, so after realizing he was from Romania, the authorities deported him. Then a Hungarian camera crew went to the kid's village, and was mugged on camera.

I have no idea what anybody is saying in that news clip but is CHOCKED full of absolute pure WIN!!! Man pick pocketing and snatch and grabs must be like a multi national olympic sport for those people, it was like a green paper ball going back and forth towards the endzone.

/dont take valuables into Roma populations, got it.
 
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