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2008-05-12 11:03:42 PM  
The iPhone is a pretty good gaming device, but I don't think they'll make a lot of money with a dedicated gaming device. They'd be going up against Nintendo and Sony, which I suspect are pretty much invincible at this particular point.
 
2008-05-13 12:46:57 AM  
It'd have to be operable with one hand, since the Apple fanboys will be too busy... well, never mind.
 
2008-05-13 01:24:47 AM  
It's well known that they'll be introducing the "official" iPhone SDK at this event. Maybe that's what TFA is thinking about?
 
2008-05-13 01:58:36 AM  
So you can play only 2 or 3 of the good games for the PSP / DS?
 
2008-05-13 03:14:11 AM  
Uhm...

They already have.

Wait until you see what the game developers come up with... with full 3D motion detection (that sensor detects on X Y and Z, and on the amount of force/speed), geo location, and a big ass screen...
 
hej
2008-05-13 03:17:23 AM  
"Is Apple planing a to release a new handheld gaming device?"

No.
 
2008-05-13 03:35:52 AM  
I think Apple could make a very good gaming device. Stripped down OS X would make a good back end that's easy to develop for. Instead of making disks they could use the iTMS to download games. They'd have to work to get openGL up to standard, but they could always buy the people they need to fix it.

However, I don't think they should make a gaming console. The market is saturated and without commitments from EA and other large studios it would be DOA. Plus there is a good 20-30 percent of gamers who wouldn't buy anything Apple made even if it made their penises 3x larger and made beautiful women want to have sex with them.
 
2008-05-13 03:45:15 AM  
Games?
For a Mac?
Well that would be a new thing...
 
2008-05-13 03:53:24 AM  
Will it come wrapped in smug smarminess?
 
2008-05-13 03:57:08 AM  
Why did they have an old one? Why wasn't I notified sooner, I could have played nanosaur and chess, and all the other game that came out years ago on the go. Instead I'll just have to settle for my psp with a full library of NES,SNES roms and most SCUMM games. Also my DS with games worth buying like Prof Layton and the Phoenix wright games.

Without a game system Apple is really screwing over the Nanosaur fanbase.
 
2008-05-13 04:16:16 AM  
submitter: Is Apple planing a to release a new handheld gaming device?

I know those words. I didn't expect to see them in once sentence though.
 
2008-05-13 04:17:14 AM  
Bob Down: in once sentence though.

Nor those, unicorn
 
2008-05-13 04:19:59 AM  
Well, I do not know if they will go through with this or if it is more rumor mongering, but I like the touch of the artists concept on the second page using one of the "Marathon" games for the screenshot.
 
2008-05-13 04:37:37 AM  
Apple should stick to what they are good at, which is...marketing things to neanderthals (or metrosexuals) with too much money. Apple plus Geico....hmmm.

/no stake in any of it, just flamebaiting!
 
2008-05-13 04:41:46 AM  
So if they haven't announced it yet, does that mean people might get away with registering 'iPlay' as a trademark, or does Apple implictly own the rights to any product starting with the letter i already?
 
2008-05-13 05:10:11 AM  
They have already announced and demoed it (including a little known game called "Spore"). It's called the iPhone/iPod touch. Anyone who thinks something else other than what has been announced is on drugs.
 
2008-05-13 06:39:16 AM  
The only thing that makes you look cooler than playing a hand-held game system is picking songs on a Zune.
 
2008-05-13 06:40:49 AM  
I thought most cell phone already had the ability to run tetris...
 
2008-05-13 06:43:01 AM  
Renowned transvestite sexologist: They have already announced and demoed it (including a little known game called "Spore"). It's called the iPhone/iPod touch. Anyone who thinks something else other than what has been announced is on drugs.

It has not been announced. This is just some of the rumors that normally take place before one of Apple bi-yearly events. For serveral years before it came out, it was the iPhone. Now that that has come out, the rumor makers need something else to pitch.
 
2008-05-13 06:49:47 AM  
immrlizard

It is worth mentioning that the iPod can do a bit more than play Tetris. You should really watch the demos of Spore and Super Monkey Ball on the iPhone. In terms of graphics, it's a bit further ahead than most people assume. Since they had focus on H.264 playback and Apple had already invested their software in using graphics cards to speed it up (OpenGL, CoreVideo, CoreAnimation, CoreImage, Quartz, you name it), the iPhone shipped a bit overpowered in the graphics department (considering it's a phone).

I'm looking forward to someone making a Mario Kartish clone for the iPhone that uses Quartz to do image stabilization and the accelerometers to steer. There's no reason why you can't.
 
2008-05-13 07:02:11 AM  
I don't even play handheld games anymore. I guess as you get older, you just drop them.

In other words, you need to tailor to kids and teens in order to sell them, and I don't know if Apple can do that. I mean, they did with the iPod for teens. But kids? That's a whole other ballpark.
 
2008-05-13 07:56:47 AM  
But can it play Photoshop?
 
2008-05-13 08:01:34 AM  
Why do people get paid to write speculative bullshiat like this?
 
Zem
2008-05-13 08:16:41 AM  
Sulfus: I don't even play handheld games anymore. I guess as you get older, you just drop them.

Quite the opposite, I've found. Most people I know who aren't big gamers but like to waste a little time now and then (pretty much anyone with kids) prefer to invest in a handheld rather than a big, all singing console.

Of course, your idea of getting older may be different to mine.
 
2008-05-13 08:39:24 AM  
"Apple" and "games" in the same sentence makes me laugh out loud.
The track record for that is not good. Not since the early 90's.

I'm just waiting for the first apple device that requires a sub-dermal implant... just to see who's a true fanboy. It should be implanted on the forehead. In the shape of an "L".
 
2008-05-13 09:07:51 AM  
Zem: Quite the opposite, I've found. Most people I know who aren't big gamers but like to waste a little time now and then (pretty much anyone with kids) prefer to invest in a handheld rather than a big, all singing console.

I don't know how people with spouses/children find time to play full-blown console games... I rarely seem to have an uninterrupted hour to myself.

I'm looking forward to 30 minutes worth of iPhone games on my train commute though.
 
2008-05-13 09:23:50 AM  
xria: So if they haven't announced it yet, does that mean people might get away with registering 'iPlay' as a trademark, or does Apple implictly own the rights to any product starting with the letter i already?

Apple pretty much has complete legal dominance of the lowercase-i thing. And even in the cases where they don't, they have far more money than anyone they've tried to sue.

You don't have to be right to destroy your enemies in a courtroom. You just have to bankrupt them with legal fees, and watch them slink away.
 
2008-05-13 09:25:36 AM  
I dunno what area of the market Apple would target with their own handheld, but I don't feel there's much room for another console. They can't just operate as a niche device unless they find someone to support the console with games even if they aren't selling well.

Sony could break into handhelds because of two reasons. One was that there was no device for more "hardcore" gamers on the handheld market, and two because they are Sony and have their own first party developers as well as a lot of third party support. Even with years in the industry, Sony hasn't come close to touching the success of the DS.

So where does Apple fit into things? I don't know how big the commuter market is in the US, but I don't think its big enough to be their main target. The whole moms and young girls demographic is dominated by Nintendo and unless Apple's device is cheap I don't see it being competitive there. Very few hardcore gamers are Apple fanboys, at least on the PC side. Basically I'm asking who the hell would buy an Apple handheld console.
 
2008-05-13 09:29:08 AM  
kinuman: It'd have to be operable with one hand, since the Apple fanboys will be too busy... well, never mind.

THIS.

Deadite: Why did they have an old one? Why wasn't I notified sooner, I could have played nanosaur and chess, and all the other game that came out years ago on the go. Instead I'll just have to settle for my psp with a full library of NES,SNES roms and most SCUMM games. Also my DS with games worth buying like Prof Layton and the Phoenix wright games.

After the PSP I can hardly imagine the need for another portable gaming system. The only thing missing from my PSP is Gradius V. The DS (at least for me) doesn't even compare to the flexibility that the PSP offers.

Sure the iPhone is cool and I wouldn't mind having one, but I'd rather have a free phone and a modded PSP.
 
2008-05-13 09:54:53 AM  
Apple is definitely coming out with a new mobile device, but not for gaming.

They've noticed the "netbook" phenomenon - smallish notebooks mostly for web and email, under 3lbs, under $500 - like the Asus eee. These devices are really more consumer electronics than PC. And they want to do it right.

The current models are underpowered, both in terms of CPU and battery. (Intel's Atom chips may change this, but I don't see it being a major change). Windows is really unsuitable for this class of device, and Linux doesn't have the level of polish that Apple can bring.

How do I know this? They just bought a chip design company that creates PowerPC chips. And as it turns out, their latest chip design is essentially what such a device could really benfit from. And we know that OSX will certainly run on PowerPC.

I expect that this could be the announcement for June. Expect the device to integrate seamlessly with the Iphone, to have amazing battery life, 10" screen, and to look like a shrunken, plastic Air.
 
2008-05-13 10:09:53 AM  
jonnyh: Apple is definitely coming out with a new mobile device, but not for gaming.

They've noticed the "netbook" phenomenon - smallish notebooks mostly for web and email, under 3lbs, under $500 - like the Asus eee. These devices are really more consumer electronics than PC. And they want to do it right.

The current models are underpowered, both in terms of CPU and battery. (Intel's Atom chips may change this, but I don't see it being a major change). Windows is really unsuitable for this class of device, and Linux doesn't have the level of polish that Apple can bring.

How do I know this? They just bought a chip design company that creates PowerPC chips. And as it turns out, their latest chip design is essentially what such a device could really benfit from. And we know that OSX will certainly run on PowerPC.

I expect that this could be the announcement for June. Expect the device to integrate seamlessly with the Iphone, to have amazing battery life, 10" screen, and to look like a shrunken, plastic Air.


I'd say that your last sentence covers it... a shrunken Air.

Similar to what Palm attempted to bring out last year, the "Foleo". (opps, there goes Apple's inovation tag")

Too bad that once again Palm screwed up, if they'd have managed to lower the price, add a touchscreen interface, make it 100% compatible with all Palm software already available, and actually get it out, it would have been a killer device. (IF they would have advertised it properly, of course)
 
2008-05-13 10:18:39 AM  
imfallen_angel: Too bad that once again Palm screwed up, if they'd have managed to lower the price, [and] add a touchscreen interface, [and] make it 100% compatible with all Palm software already available, and actually get it out, it would have been a killer device. (IF they would have advertised it properly, of course)

It is no wonder they screwed up. I'd have been impressed if they'd managed one of these.
 
2008-05-13 10:41:54 AM  
imfallen_angel: I'd say that your last sentence covers it... a shrunken Air.

I'm incredulous about a "shrunken" Air. I don't see Apple releasing a laptop with a less than full size keyboard. It's just not their thing. I'm thinking MacTablet with an iPhone like keyboard. Maybe some texturing over the screen to make it feel a bit more "real".
 
2008-05-13 10:49:57 AM  
t3knomanser: I'm thinking MacTablet with an iPhone like keyboard. Maybe some texturing over the screen to make it feel a bit more "real".

As much as I'd like to see a MacTablet... I doubt they'll make one.

They are pushing their luck with the Air as it is - to make something that is more impractical, and more of like toy just seems silly.
 
2008-05-13 10:50:37 AM  
They should talk to Nokia... the nGage was such a huge success.

Also, who actually plays real games on an Apple?
 
2008-05-13 10:56:21 AM  
PsyLord: They should talk to Nokia... the nGage was such a huge success.

Also, who actually plays real games on an Apple?


Anything produced by Blizzard?

Or dual boot into XP and play anything released for Windows.

:P
 
2008-05-13 11:39:52 AM  
RubberFootMan: imfallen_angel: Too bad that once again Palm screwed up, if they'd have managed to lower the price, [and] add a touchscreen interface, [and] make it 100% compatible with all Palm software already available, and actually get it out, it would have been a killer device. (IF they would have advertised it properly, of course)

It is no wonder they screwed up. I'd have been impressed if they'd managed one of these.


The sad part is that there is not a single reason why they couldn't have produced such a device, all they had to do is take a TX, pump it up with in a slightly larger "casing" with a faster processor, bigger screen, more memory, larger battery, more ports and a folding keyboard. Really not rocket science.

It's a bit the same as what they did with their PDA lines.

IF, they had advertised them as the miniature computers/keyboard-less-laptop, AND the multimedia players that they are, they would have sold 10x more units easy.

I still look at every new multimedia player out there and I still find it sad that my 5 year old Palm (Zire 71) outdoes every one of them thanks to the software available for it. Seriously, if Palm would have done a more aggressive marketing, they would be a serious player and the world of portable electronics would be quite different.

Now, they've lost so much ground that it's pitiful.

I still love my Palms, but seriously, it just feel that unless Palm does something huge, they'll die a slow and painful death.

But for this Apple gaming device?... they should just get more games out for the iTouch and iPhone... why bother with another device when those are pretty much a PDA(very limited but still entering the domain of being one).
 
2008-05-13 11:46:43 AM  
t3knomanser: imfallen_angel: I'd say that your last sentence covers it... a shrunken Air.

I'm incredulous about a "shrunken" Air. I don't see Apple releasing a laptop with a less than full size keyboard. It's just not their thing. I'm thinking MacTablet with an iPhone like keyboard. Maybe some texturing over the screen to make it feel a bit more "real".


What about something with a folding keyboard?

I have a Belkin one (new window)for my Palm, and it is really a sweet design... and would be perfect for a portable design.



to bad that it's a paperweight as Belkin drivers suck and causes my Palms to crash when I try it. (Yes I called them (more than once), they claimed it was my device... and 5 devices later /various models/ and crashes on all of them later, I will claim that Belkin sucks)
 
2008-05-13 11:51:22 AM  
imfallen_angel: But for this Apple gaming device?... they should just get more games out for the iTouch and iPhone... why bother with another device when those are pretty much a PDA(very limited but still entering the domain of being one).

I rather suspect that this is what will happen. Apple will announce applications for the iPhone and Touch - which will include games.

It doesn't make good business sense to bring out a new games only device when they already have 2 capable handhelds which can use touchscreen/accelerometer/proximity sensor(?).
 
2008-05-13 12:15:00 PM  
RubberFootMan: imfallen_angel: But for this Apple gaming device?... they should just get more games out for the iTouch and iPhone... why bother with another device when those are pretty much a PDA(very limited but still entering the domain of being one).

I rather suspect that this is what will happen. Apple will announce applications for the iPhone and Touch - which will include games.

It doesn't make good business sense to bring out a new games only device when they already have 2 capable handhelds which can use touchscreen/accelerometer/proximity sensor(?).


Maybe a snap-on accessory? with proper buttons and pads?
 
2008-05-13 12:15:53 PM  
SphericalTime: The iPhone is a pretty good gaming device, but I don't think they'll make a lot of money with a dedicated gaming device. They'd be going up against Nintendo and Sony, which I suspect are pretty much invincible at this particular point.

You forgot Microsoft, which has largely done the milkshake-drinking cliche on every attempt by Apple to break into gaming in any real sense basically since IBM realized that PCs weren't a short-lived fad.
 
2008-05-13 12:20:37 PM  
imfallen_angel: Maybe a snap-on accessory? with proper buttons and pads?

There could certainly be a market for a 3rd-Party add on... if there were good games written for it.
 
2008-05-13 12:20:42 PM  
jonnyh: Apple is definitely coming out with a new mobile device, but not for gaming.

They've noticed the "netbook" phenomenon - smallish notebooks mostly for web and email, under 3lbs, under $500 - like the Asus eee. These devices are really more consumer electronics than PC. And they want to do it right.

The current models are underpowered, both in terms of CPU and battery. (Intel's Atom chips may change this, but I don't see it being a major change). Windows is really unsuitable for this class of device, and Linux doesn't have the level of polish that Apple can bring.

How do I know this? They just bought a chip design company that creates PowerPC chips. And as it turns out, their latest chip design is essentially what such a device could really benfit from. And we know that OSX will certainly run on PowerPC.

I expect that this could be the announcement for June. Expect the device to integrate seamlessly with the Iphone, to have amazing battery life, 10" screen, and to look like a shrunken, plastic Air.


I see no way that Apple can put out a laptop under $500. It's just not going to happen. It's like they HAVE to overprice their products at least 1.5x what it would cost if it was from another company.

As for what was said about Spore on the iphone before, I watched that video and I calmed down a bit, considering it's nothing like the PC version and it seems that it only includes the cellular stage.
 
2008-05-13 05:41:40 PM  
t3knomanser: I'm thinking MacTablet with an iPhone like keyboard. Maybe some texturing over the screen to make it feel a bit more "real".

The whole point of a tablet is that you don't have a keyboard. You write on the screen. If you need a keyboard, which IS better for generating lots of text, it should be attached in the conventional way so that there is an angle between what you are typing and the screen. Many TabletPC makers tried alternate things like keyboard on touchscreens and they all suck.
 
2008-05-13 06:57:45 PM  
I called this way back when Apple filed their touch screen patents that led to the iPhone/iPod Touch. Making those into a gaming platform would be a very small step from what they already are.
 
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