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2008-05-11 09:04:57 PM  
AntiNorm:
Of course, the easiest way to not be ticketed for violating a traffic law is to not violate any traffic laws get caught.

FTFY

BTW: you're an idiot
 
2008-05-11 09:05:05 PM  
WalkingSnake: Can someone please tell me why I shouldn't consent to a search?

I'm a newb at getting pulled over, but I truly never have anything to hide in my car. Is the problem that it's unnecessary, a waste of time, and against my rights, or is there more to it than that?



You're perfectly within your rights to waive your rights for any reason you like, or for none at all. As far as I'm concerned, you're absolutely more than welcome to let anyone you like look through your belongings.
 
2008-05-11 09:05:08 PM  
equusdc: jenniferwillow
Thank god 99.9% of them look like this:

Sadly, only one of them is clearly packing more than a pistol.


That made me scroll back up and look. Yep, he's packing.
 
2008-05-11 09:05:09 PM  
WalkingSnake: Can someone please tell me why I shouldn't consent to a search?

I'm a newb at getting pulled over, but I truly never have anything to hide in my car. Is the problem that it's unnecessary, a waste of time, and against my rights, or is there more to it than that?


Great question and one that many farkers can argue multiple ways.

Short and easy answers...you decide what you want to do:

a)a single seed of weed can = conviction. Cops can be dirty, plant things and destroy lives. Dont give them a reason.
b)you have nothing to hide, so go ahead and let them search
c)you have nothing to hide, they need to bother someone else
d)everything you do is building a cases for the government against you. Every. Single. Thing. The less you do for them, the less they have on you.

D is probably the most important but you can chose. I have nothing to hide ever because I dont drink and drive or travel with drugs but I am not going to give them cart blanche on building a possible case against me.
 
2008-05-11 09:06:18 PM  
sorhed
Ever have a lady cop pull you over just so she could get a better look?

I did, once. Made my day :D


When I read that some awful 80s porn music started playing in my head.
 
2008-05-11 09:06:27 PM  
ceejayoz: I don't personally know anyone who has been ticked more than a few times. I can't think of a single one of my friends who has been arrested, either.

Elitist.
 
2008-05-11 09:06:54 PM  
I imagine 95% of the farkers here that are screaming about not consenting and 4th amendment rights and constitutional blither-blather bend over at the first sight of the police.
 
2008-05-11 09:06:55 PM  
code_monkey: Most police officers think they personally own the law instead of being paid to uphold it.

What makes you say that?
 
2008-05-11 09:07:38 PM  
lohphat: WalkingSnake: Can someone please tell me why I shouldn't consent to a search?

Have our schools completely eliminated civic studies? Please re-read the 4th Amendment.


Granted I've only been in a car pulled over 4 times (2 times I was the passenger, once was for a broken tail light, and once, yeah, I was speeding). But I have never heard a cop ask to search the car.

Still, you're better off telling them they can't. If they proceed anyway, sternly object, but remain polite and let them do it. At this point the search is illegal.

You think you have nothing to hide? Remember when you cut your hand changing your tire and you used an old t-shirt to clean up? Cops tend to be a little suspicious of bloody clothing. Did a joint fall out of the pocket of one of your friends and land under your seat? Whoa, what's all of this PETA literature? You know a rancher up the road had his fence knocked down and his cattle got loose.
 
2008-05-11 09:08:29 PM  
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2008-05-11 09:08:48 PM  
Relatively Obscure: Eleutherios: That's pretty naive... Or maybe it isn't. Living with a cop may give me a bit more insight, I don't know your personal experience.

No, they're not retarded. They know full well it makes people nervous, and that's part of their job... To mentally disarm you.

I've had mixed experience, some of which I've detailed. Very often, it's positive, and occasionally very negative. I also have my own significant insight from the large portion of my adult working life.

And no, I don't think it's naive. A cover unit is routine for them. Wanting to visit their buddies at an opportunity is also routine. Sure, I suppose they know it make you nervous--as would being stopped by just ONE cop make most people nervous. I'm just saying that, while maybe it would be nice to be put at ease about having three squads behind you, it doesn't necessarily mean they're trying to torment you just because they didn't happen to consider doing that.

So, I'll concede that you're probably partly right.


Cool, I got a partly right... that's a first on Fark.

It is routine for extra squad cars to pull up. It is also routine for an officer to do nothing to set your mind at ease, that's all I was pointing out. They're very aware of it and generally have no desire to ease any concerns you might have.
So yeah, I think it is naive to think cops don't realize what it does to citizens just because it's routine for them... The routine is partially there to scare you.
 
2008-05-11 09:08:54 PM  
sorhed: Ever have a lady cop pull you over just so she could get a better look?

I did, once. Made my day :D


Had this happen with a male cop. First thing he said was, "how you doing today ma'm?" Then he says, "do I know you from somewhere? You look familiar?" I wanted so bad to mess with him but was afraid he would take it wrong and write me a bunch of useless tickets for no reason. We chatted for a bit. He ran my info then let me go. Guess I wasn't what he was looking for after all. lol
 
2008-05-11 09:09:57 PM  
The Great Gazoo: My only problem comes with something that recently happened to me:

I was driving back from Philadelphia with my son, a friend and her son from a Cub Scout event. The kids were in the back seat with their uniforms on. One of the boys needed to use a restroom so I pulled off at a likely exit and stopped at a convenience store. After everyone was happy I was making my way back to the highway when in my rearview mirror I see the flashing lights of a police car. I pull over safely, do all they say to do, and am very polite. And I got a $108 ticket. Why? Because I forgot to renew my vehicle registration. The sticker on the license plate and the registration card indicated that it had expired on the last day of March. The date all this happened and I got the ticket? April 2nd.


FTFY
 
2008-05-11 09:10:11 PM  
SichuanPepper: constitutional blither-blather

It is only a goddamn piece of paper.
 
2008-05-11 09:10:37 PM  
DFWPhotoGuy:

I also had this experience. Broken window. When the cop approachs, I told him my window honestly was broken but I can open the door, if it is necessary for him to see my registration.

He was cool and I made fun of my p.o.s. plymoth aclaim and said its not worth fixing.

Just tell them before they ask imho.


I probably won't get pulled over in that car. It's a '91 Dodge Dynasty with over 330k miles on it, and struggles to get to 70. The AC broke, the cruise broke, that window broke, and there are rust holes in the bottom of the trunk and side of the gas tank, as well as everywhere else. It does still get 28mpg, though.
 
2008-05-11 09:10:45 PM  
ceejayoz: lohphat: Have our schools completely eliminated civic studies? Please re-read the 4th Amendment.

What part of the amendment states "you must use this every single time, no matter what, or this right becomes invalid"?


I'm pretty "pro cop" but even I think this is a bad idea. Are you ABSOLUTELY CERTAIN there's nothing in your car that can get you into legal trouble? Even if some Tylenol fell out of your girlfriend's purse and landed under your seat, a cop is going to suspect illegal drugs. Sure, it can be proven to be Tylenol... after your car is impounded, you're arrested, and you get bailed out.
 
2008-05-11 09:11:20 PM  
jdmac: I had a friend in Ohio who was driving and got pulled over. She had just come through the Crispy Creme's drive through. When the cop came to the window, he asked "Do you know why I pulled you over" My friend, who sometimes needs to think before speaking a little more responded "Because you smelled the doughnuts" Immediately she started hitting her head on the steering wheel say "I am so sorry that just slipped out" The cop laughed, checked everyone for warrants and let them go on her way.

Ha ha! That's so funny and original. Except... I've seen that skit too.
 
2008-05-11 09:11:47 PM  
RoxtarRyan: code_monkey: Most police officers think they personally own the law instead of being paid to uphold it.

What makes you say that?


The cop I live with says that.
 
2008-05-11 09:13:01 PM  
RoxtarRyan: code_monkey: Most police officers think they personally own the law instead of being paid to uphold it.

What makes you say that?


He's had Judge Dread on repeat for days. It starts to get in your head after a while.
 
2008-05-11 09:13:18 PM  
ceejayoz: What part of the amendment states "you must use this every single time, no matter what, or this right becomes invalid"?

You must be a Republican.
 
2008-05-11 09:13:29 PM  
jonohull: DFWPhotoGuy:

I also had this experience. Broken window. When the cop approachs, I told him my window honestly was broken but I can open the door, if it is necessary for him to see my registration.

He was cool and I made fun of my p.o.s. plymoth aclaim and said its not worth fixing.

Just tell them before they ask imho.

I probably won't get pulled over in that car. It's a '91 Dodge Dynasty with over 330k miles on it, and struggles to get to 70. The AC broke, the cruise broke, that window broke, and there are rust holes in the bottom of the trunk and side of the gas tank, as well as everywhere else. It does still get 28mpg, though.


Mine was a 92 aclaim that would just lose all power if I got it around 55. We called it flintstone because the hole in the floor board let us look at the road.

What a god awful car it was, but it did its purpose and got me through school.
 
2008-05-11 09:14:07 PM  
Richard Roma: Yeah, the person who has absolutely no power in the interaction, who can be physically overpowered and hauled away at any moment, is the one likely to be the bully, not the guy who can do pretty much anything he damn well pleases. Save your nonsense for someone gullible enough to buy it.

Cops get crapped on EVERY DAY by self important arse-holes who think the laws don't apply to them. Just have a read through this thread, for god's sake.

And it happens far more often than a cop abusing his authority.
 
2008-05-11 09:15:04 PM  
bogey: SichuanPepper: constitutional blither-blather

It is only a goddamn piece of paper.



Please tell me you're kidding.

That's a quote by George Bush.

So I pray you're being satirical.
 
2008-05-11 09:16:57 PM  
Arbitrator: jdmac: I had a friend in Ohio who was driving and got pulled over. She had just come through the Crispy Creme's drive through. When the cop came to the window, he asked "Do you know why I pulled you over" My friend, who sometimes needs to think before speaking a little more responded "Because you smelled the doughnuts" Immediately she started hitting her head on the steering wheel say "I am so sorry that just slipped out" The cop laughed, checked everyone for warrants and let them go on her way.

Ha ha! That's so funny and original. Except... I've seen that skit too.


i79.photobucket.com
 
2008-05-11 09:17:04 PM  
I just came in to say ...

MEOW!
 
2008-05-11 09:17:04 PM  
bogey: SichuanPepper: constitutional blither-blather

It is only a goddamn piece of paper.


So's a death certificate.

1/10. Weak troll fu.
 
2008-05-11 09:17:22 PM  
Eleutherios: Please tell me you're kidding.

Yes, that was my (failed?) attempt at sarcasm.
 
2008-05-11 09:17:33 PM  
Eleutherios: Cool, I got a partly right... that's a first on Fark.

I try to be pretty easy to get along with, most of the time, and I know I'm more than capable of not being 100% right on every subject, all of the time.

It is routine for extra squad cars to pull up. It is also routine for an officer to do nothing to set your mind at ease, that's all I was pointing out. They're very aware of it and generally have no desire to ease any concerns you might have.
So yeah, I think it is naive to think cops don't realize what it does to citizens just because it's routine for them... The routine is partially there to scare you.


I suppose experiences are different in different parts of the country. I interact with the police formally and informally on an almost daily basis here, and while I suppose they know they make people nervous, I don't think most of them are actively trying to "scare" most of the people they pull over. Then again, in the several times I've been pulled over here, they've been at worst neutral and usually nothing but polite and reassuring. I'm sure that's not the case everywhere--I had a far higher rate of "bad experiences," though they were still few, at my last residence, no doubt.
 
2008-05-11 09:17:46 PM  
Eleutherios: My room mate is a cop.
In his words, "I can always give a ticket or even take someone to jail, no matter who they are or what they're doing. They don't need to be doing anything obviously wrong. If they don't set their parking break when I pull them over I can ticket them. I have way too much power!"

Since high school I have been arrested at least ten times and ticketed well over 30 times. Every time I've gotten anything more than a speeding ticket I took it to court because it was total BS, and every time I won. I once got a Class A illegal weapon charge for juggling knives that weren't illegal or even sharp. Even the DA was pissed at the cop...who told me he was sending me to jail simply because he had been sick all week.
I refuse searches of my car every single time, and every single time they ask they eventually find a way to search my car. They never find anything actually illegal, but they like to make up things because they think I won't plead "not guilty" and make them go to court.

I used to speed a lot, not recklessly, but about 10mph over. I'm not a fantastic driver, but I'm very courteous and I'm never an aggressive driver. In fact I call my self a Zen driver.

I actually got pulled over last night. She pulled me over as I was pulling into my friend's apartment complex. She never told me why she pulled me over. She didn't give me a ticket or a warning, which is a first. She just ran my info and said have a good night.

My point.... If you're a guy in your 20's and want to have chest length hair, expect to get profiled as a criminal. Also, cops have way too much power that they don't need. Most cops are corrupt and spiteful because when they became a cop they weren't smart enough to realize they'd be taking a lot of shiat from people... And so when they find out being a cop isn't a fun job they lash out and make it more likely that citizens won't cooperate with police in the future.



Arrested 10 times and given 30 tickets? Have we seen you on C.O.P.S. yet. You must be that 5% of the population that takes up 95% of the court system. In my 60 years of driving I have only been stopped once and that was for a cracked windshield.

You are one hell of an ass!
 
2008-05-11 09:17:53 PM  
RoxtarRyan: code_monkey: Most police officers think they personally own the law instead of being paid to uphold it.

What makes you say that?


My brother, a cop of 30 years, says that.

By the way, have you ever dealt with the LAPD?
 
2008-05-11 09:18:22 PM  
bogey: Eleutherios: Please tell me you're kidding.

Yes, that was my (failed?) attempt at sarcasm.


Yay, you just made my day!
 
2008-05-11 09:18:42 PM  
Yeah! Stick it to the man! Let the farking pig know about people's rights! Waste his time, that'll learn him. That punk ass wants to pull me over for speeding, I'm not going to give him anything, man! The way I see it, if we all decide tell them to fark off, they'll stop being assholes to everyone they pull over!

/put ME on double secret probation, will they?
 
2008-05-11 09:19:31 PM  
Bastinado: Richard Roma: Yeah, the person who has absolutely no power in the interaction, who can be physically overpowered and hauled away at any moment, is the one likely to be the bully, not the guy who can do pretty much anything he damn well pleases. Save your nonsense for someone gullible enough to buy it.

Cops get crapped on EVERY DAY by self important arse-holes who think the laws don't apply to them. Just have a read through this thread, for god's sake.

And it happens far more often than a cop abusing his authority.


Given the shat cops have to deal with EVERY SINGLE SHIFT it's amazing they're as civil as they are. They have to listen to every crass comment about their mother, wife, daughter. They have to put up with every snide doughnut and Village People joke. They have to take this abuse because we citizens of the United States have rights and we're allowed to mouth-off all we want. But at the end of the stop they go about their business and the loud mouth has the traffic ticket.

I could never be a cop because I'd use my taser on too many damn people.

I witnessed an accident once. The woman who caused it called the female cop every name in the book from biatch to whore. The cop never flinched. Just thanked the woman for her statement then took mine. It just amazed me. I wanted to deck the loud mouth.
 
2008-05-11 09:19:52 PM  
jonohull:
I probably won't get pulled over in that car. It's a '91 Dodge Dynasty with over 330k miles on it, and struggles to get to 70. The AC broke, the cruise broke, that window broke, and there are rust holes in the bottom of the trunk and side of the gas tank, as well as everywhere else. It does still get 28mpg, though.


I had the exact same vehicle. Lots of little things like the extras (radio, windows, AC) "went wrong" with it, but that sucker ran and ran. I put more miles on it than on any other vehicle (close to 300K myself).

But once it decided to die, oh boy did it die.
 
2008-05-11 09:20:26 PM  
WalkingSnake: Can someone please tell me why I shouldn't consent to a search?

I'm a newb at getting pulled over, but I truly never have anything to hide in my car. Is the problem that it's unnecessary, a waste of time, and against my rights, or is there more to it than that?


Would you allow a stranger to search your underwear drawer? If so, that's great. It's your business, but the principle of the matter is important to some of us.

In the case of a vehicle, it's a private space. I don't like people digging through my junk, be it a glove box or a closet.
 
2008-05-11 09:21:37 PM  
bunner: So's a death certificate.

1/10. Weak troll fu.


Wow, either I suck at sarcasm or some folks around here are pretty dense. I'm gonna go with my own suckitude for the time being.
 
2008-05-11 09:22:43 PM  
What cops should be:
news.thomasnet.com

What cops are:
www.prisonplanet.com
 
2008-05-11 09:23:38 PM  
bunner: bogey: SichuanPepper: constitutional blither-blather

It is only a goddamn piece of paper.

So's a death certificate.

1/10. Weak troll fu.


He's quoting George Bush (literally).
 
2008-05-11 09:24:12 PM  
Placenta for Breakfast: Are you ABSOLUTELY CERTAIN there's nothing in your car that can get you into legal trouble?

I'm certain enough for my personal taste.

I know that:

* I've never been asked if they can search.
* If they did, they wouldn't find anything beyond my wife's nursing supplies (no meds in them, either).
* Every time I've been pulled over the cop has been reasonably pleasant towards me, including the guy who could've ruined my vacation by ticketing me for the actual speed I was going and forcing me to show up in court during said vacation.
* My cooperation may mean I don't piss off a guy who has been having a shiatty day and get him to write me a ticket when he might have warned me.

I, from my interactions with cops and my friends' and family's interactions with them, am confident enough that cooperating isn't likely to harm me and may potentially help me.

The minute chance that he'll find a Tylenol and force me to spend a few hours in lockup while a lawyer kicks up a fuss doesn't do much to weight the other side of the scale.

lohphat: You must be a Republican.

I have a FSM on my car. In the last two election cycles, I have donated to the Dean and Obama campaigns. I marched at the March for Women's Lives, a pro-choice protest in Washington DC run by Planned Parenthood, NOW, and NARAL.

Republican? Not so much.
 
2008-05-11 09:25:10 PM  
I am probably the single biggest anti-authoritarian sum biatch that you have ever met in your life - right up until the moment that the cop pulls me over.

After years of driving, I can tell you from experience that ALL of the advice in the article is good. I have avoided tickets many times by following that advice. I DO cuss the motherfarkers to myself after I have pulled away from the traffic stop.

Being rude, belligerent, or argumentative with people who drive high performance vehicles, carry weapons, and have two-way radios is asking for trouble.
 
2008-05-11 09:25:23 PM  
Two cop stop stories. I was going 70 to 80 out on I-90 in the Dakotas and this highway patrol guy passes me going the other direction. I slam on the brakes down to 55 and he follows me for a solid 5 minutes like I didn't see him cross the barrow pit in his police cruiser. He finally turns on the lights and I pull over on the shoulder. He gets the 3 documents and asks if I know how fast I was going. I say it's been 55 for the last 5 minutes since you cut over from the other direction officer. He says keep it that way and gives me a warning.

If you're willing to be nice to your waitress so she won't spit in your food that already has federally regulated quantifiable levels of rat poop why would you give any cop any attitude for any reason.
 
2008-05-11 09:25:56 PM  
Adds Florida Trooper Larry Coggins, "A traffic stop is not the time to clean out your car, sorting through 10 years' worth of registrations and insurance cards. Also, tell me immediately if you have a gun [legal or otherwise] anywhere on you or in the vehicle."


Why yes officer, there is something in this vehicle that will instantly net me 5 years in prison and a felony conviction. You probably wouldn't have noticed it, but I probably should tell you immediately.

Because I'm quite certain that by telling you exactly why you should put me into prison for several years, you will let it slide.
 
2008-05-11 09:26:17 PM  
Placenta for Breakfast: Given the shat cops have to deal with EVERY SINGLE SHIFT it's amazing they're as civil as they are. They have to listen to every crass comment about their mother, wife, daughter. They have to put up with every snide doughnut and Village People joke. They have to take this abuse because we citizens of the United States have rights and we're allowed to mouth-off all we want. But at the end of the stop they go about their business and the loud mouth has the traffic ticket.

I could never be a cop because I'd use my taser on too many damn people.


Testify, brother. I'd make a lousy cop.
 
2008-05-11 09:26:19 PM  
bogey: bunner: So's a death certificate.

1/10. Weak troll fu.

Wow, either I suck at sarcasm or some folks around here are pretty dense. I'm gonna go with my own suckitude for the time being.


I missed it. My bad.
 
2008-05-11 09:26:38 PM  
homerdrew415: anyone know if the police organization stickers do anything in traffic stops?

My uncle got pulled over for speeding, and he had an expired license to boot. The cop let him go with a warning (So long as my aunt drove and not him.) because my uncle had a police alliance sticker of some sort on his car. The cop actually told him that, too.

As a teenager, I got harassed a lot less by the local PD once I put the local FOP's sticker on my car. (I grew up in a small town and drove a unique car that everyone knew.) I retired my lead foot years ago, so I don't know if that still works or not.

/YMMV
 
2008-05-11 09:27:22 PM  
have a commercial drivers license because getting a ticket while driving the family car counts against your commercial license the cop thinks he may be costing you your job. i've had a commercial license for over 15 years and drove a truck for only about 2 years. so i get stopped for a violation every couple years and the cop thinks i'm a pretty safe truck driver since i'm always on the road as a trucker but i hardly get pulled over so he lets me go. plus the license implies your clean and sober.
 
2008-05-11 09:28:33 PM  
Sumo Surfer: FTA:" 'If people are honest and admit they're wrong', says Lieutenant Anglada, "90 percent of the time I'll drop their speed or just give them a warning."

Sure you will...

and:

"If you were speeding, admit it."

Worst advice ever.


Hey, it worked for me. Plus, he's already clocked you. You really think lying is going to get you out of it?
 
2008-05-11 09:28:50 PM  
WFern: It is only a goddamn piece of paper.

He's quoting George Bush (literally).


I would be a lot more comfortable about that pinnacle of idiocy if I were shocked that it was stated by a sitting president..
 
2008-05-11 09:29:56 PM  
Placenta for Breakfast: Given the shat cops have to deal with EVERY SINGLE SHIFT it's amazing they're as civil as they are. They have to listen to every crass comment about their mother, wife, daughter. They have to put up with every snide doughnut and Village People joke. They have to take this abuse because we citizens of the United States have rights and we're allowed to mouth-off all we want. But at the end of the stop they go about their business and the loud mouth has the traffic ticket.

When you get cursed at regularly by average people every day in the course of your profession, there is probably something wrong with the way your profession conducts itself as a whole.
 
2008-05-11 09:30:32 PM  
The Grinch
Silly girl. Get over it.
 
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