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(Gimundo)   Since Chen Si began patrolling the Nanjing Bridge in China for suicide attempts four years ago, he has saved 144 lives   (gimundo.com) divider line 101
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2008-05-05 01:08:10 PM  
Is "saving" the life of someone who does not want to be saved really a heroic act? This is a bit of a stretch to make this correlation, but I'm baffled by the opposition here in the US to the "death with dignity" efforts. If people are terminally ill, and they want to go out on their terms, why does anyone feel that they don't have the right to do so?

I also find it amusing that suicide's illegal. So your life is so horrible that you want to kill yourself, but you can't even get that right. So, as a reward for screwing up your own death, you get arrested? That'll make you feel better about not wanting to live.
 
2008-05-05 01:08:43 PM  
Taynt: RG400 Smart Towel: Doesn't China have a population problem? Doesn't really seem like the type of behavior to be discouraging. If fact in the US, we should just dig a really deep hole behind the doors to every OCB. That would solve our obesity problem.

I'll bite, what the hell is OCB?

/The Googles, they do nothing.


Old Country Buffet
 
2008-05-05 01:09:22 PM  
Mimic_Octopus

that was such a measured and considerate response that I would feel guilty and disrespectful to elaborate on my opinion regarding this matter. (and i spent 4 years working inpatient at a psych ward so I have some real experience with it, good & bad). i hope you have a good day !



There must be some kind of mistake. I thought I was on Fark.

I better get a tech to check out my 'puter.
 
2008-05-05 01:11:26 PM  
sbchamp: SchlingFo: Great, he's kept 144 worthless Commies in the world to drag the rest of us down.

Do yourself, and the rest of the Capitalist world, a favor and go ahead and jump off with the next person you see.

Spoken like a true asshat
Makes me proud


It's the American way *teardrop*
 
2008-05-05 01:12:06 PM  
???

/is there a shortage of people over there or something?
 
2008-05-05 01:14:38 PM  
BobNesta420: Is "saving" the life of someone who does not want to be saved really a heroic act? This is a bit of a stretch to make this correlation, but I'm baffled by the opposition here in the US to the "death with dignity" efforts. If people are terminally ill, and they want to go out on their terms, why does anyone feel that they don't have the right to do so?

I guess it depends on the situation of the person wishing to kill themselves. Having known people who struggled (undiagnosed) with depression, saving someone and getting them properly diagnosed can turn a life around in amazing ways.

Now someone with an advanced and terminal disease who has nothing but pain and a slow death to look forward to... I'd have to make an allowance for that person as long as they are clear minded.

Saving someone who mistakenly doesn't want to be saved IS a heroic act... and to be honest, if the person is determined to kill his/herself, they'll do it again later. What this guy's given these people is time, a sympathetic ear, and one more chance. That is heroic... IMO, at least.
 
2008-05-05 01:20:04 PM  
FarkinHostile

i don't comment much but i usually try to rip people as hard as possible, but that one would have felt wrong.

you sorry, loser, douchebag, libtard, farkoff, kiddie diddler !! ( does that feel more normal :) )
 
2008-05-05 01:22:40 PM  
BobNesta420If people are terminally ill, and they want to go out on their terms, why does anyone feel that they don't have the right to do so?

If the victim feels his life his worthless, then he no longer reserves the right to do what he wants with it, does he? I'll be happy to have dominion over someone who feels like dirt, literally.
 
2008-05-05 01:24:09 PM  
What's missing is a reference to the film, The Bridge,
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=8muNsj1oUpY (Trailer)

The Bridge is a film about the suicides that occur at the Golden Gate. A film crew was stationed for a year at the Golden Gate and captured about a dozen suicides on film.
 
2008-05-05 01:24:13 PM  
We should get this guy on the Golden Gate bridge.
 
2008-05-05 01:27:48 PM  
Thanks to Chen Si, there are 144 more people to help make my sneakers cheaper!
 
2008-05-05 01:30:18 PM  
Hero? More like annoying.
 
2008-05-05 01:31:00 PM  
This deserves the sad tag because it shows how bad things are in China when there are that many opportunities to save suicide attempts.
 
2008-05-05 01:32:01 PM  
www.coffeecoffeeandmorecoffee.com
I just came to post an Angel-A pic....

No "Wonderful life" pix yet?
 
2008-05-05 01:32:49 PM  
As someone who once attempted suicide, but was stopped, I can tell you that it makes the world of difference. It's hard to understand what it's like to be suicidal. I mean your natural biological instinct is to survive. You have millions of years of evolution, designed simply for that purpose. To genuinely want to take your own life, the pain or emotional distress you are going through, has to be more powerful than that evolutionary instinct.

Anyway, to have someone stop you from killing yourself does a world of wonder. It shows that someone out there cares about what happens to you, even if they don't know you. Just knowing that someone cares whether or not you live or die, it's an amazing realization.
 
2008-05-05 01:33:29 PM  
It's hard to feel special though in china because one somebody says that your 1 in a million you still have 999 other people in the world just like you.
 
2008-05-05 01:34:05 PM  
jeffwashingdc: BobNesta420If people are terminally ill, and they want to go out on their terms, why does anyone feel that they don't have the right to do so?

If the victim feels his life his worthless, then he no longer reserves the right to do what he wants with it, does he? I'll be happy to have dominion over someone who feels like dirt, literally.


Really? So, if someone is wasting away in severe pain, with weeks or months left to live, you think it's reasonable to make them hang on until they naturally die, rather than let them end the agony a bit sooner?

I think Mercutio74 made a fine point regarding people who are not terminally ill, but just depressed. But I really have a hard time understanding how someone can justify forcing a person to live out their remaining days in excruciating pain and misery, forcing them to sacrifice their last shred of dignity. What is the harm in allowing a terminally ill person to choose how and when they want to go?
 
2008-05-05 01:35:34 PM  
reversibleSummerAssHat: This deserves the sad tag because it shows how bad things are in China when there are that many opportunities to save suicide attempts.

Took the words right out of my mouth.

/Benny Hill jumper sketch--after trying everything else -family, friends etc.,- the Rev. on the ground says--'Don't forget this weekend when we watch our beloved Manchester United play!' "I hate Manchester, I'm a Liverpool fan!' 'Oh, you can flamin' well jump then!'
 
2008-05-05 01:38:16 PM  
Nicely put, NanashiKnight
 
2008-05-05 01:41:10 PM  
He ought to let one jump every now and then. You know, just for job security.
 
2008-05-05 01:41:31 PM  
mooseyfate: He didn't save 144 lives, he ruined 144 deaths.

/glass half-empty
//unless it's a child's blood
///not even close to obscure


and who is to say these people would have actually jumped? most people who "attempt" suicide are just giant attention whores who never had any intention of actually offing themselves.
 
2008-05-05 01:46:43 PM  
NanashiKnight: Anyway, to have someone stop you from killing yourself does a world of wonder. It shows that someone out there cares about what happens to you, even if they don't know you. Just knowing that someone cares whether or not you live or die, it's an amazing realization.

Well put... and what have we learned in this thread? If you're suicidal, don't look to 80% of the Fark poster population for help.
 
2008-05-05 01:53:07 PM  
He may have saved 144 but how many did he not save? Probably alot more
 
2008-05-05 01:54:01 PM  
nobodys_goose: "If every OTHER Chinaman was jumping off a bridge, would you do it to?"

"Maybe. If every other Chiman man already jumped, I'd have a really soft landing...."


feralboy.com

Your nomenclature is not preferred.
 
2008-05-05 01:56:28 PM  
Joe_Mamma: He may have saved 144 but how many did he not save? Probably alot more

He does actually do this on a volunteer/vigilante basis, so the fact he does it at all is a good thing.
 
2008-05-05 01:58:12 PM  
www.filmreference.com

Clarence approves.
 
2008-05-05 02:10:54 PM  
toonz:
speaking of which...
144?
That's just gross.


HA!

/i see what you did there
 
2008-05-05 02:14:37 PM  
Anyone else think of that scene in Monster's Ball where Billy Bob Thornton yells at Heath Ledger for ruining Puffy's "last walk"? Seems like this guy is ruining a lot of people's last walks.
 
2008-05-05 02:15:45 PM  
nobodys_goose: "If every OTHER Chinaman was jumping off a bridge, would you do it to?"

"Maybe. If every other Chiman man already jumped, I'd have a really soft landing...."


Nicely done!

And, this is really a good use for the hero tag for once!
 
2008-05-05 02:22:43 PM  
derekste: mooseyfate: He didn't save 144 lives, he ruined 144 deaths.

/glass half-empty
//unless it's a child's blood
///not even close to obscure

and who is to say these people would have actually jumped? most people who "attempt" suicide are just giant attention whores who never had any intention of actually offing themselves.


And who is to say that I didn't already know that and was simply making a joke on Fark?

tripperday: Anyone else think of that scene in Monster's Ball where Billy Bob Thornton yells at Heath Ledger for ruining Puffy's "last walk"? Seems like this guy is ruining a lot of people's last walks.

I don't remember that scene, but I DO remember the scene where Halle Berry takes it like a pro from Billy Bob after her hugantic whale of a child gets run down on the street. That scene was awesome.

/fappity
 
2008-05-05 02:27:35 PM  
Who the Fark gave him the right to intervene in someone else's life choice? We need to put zombie Kervorkian on him.
 
2008-05-05 02:29:22 PM  
Or maybe his job could be done by Roscoe Rules.

/Obscure?
 
2008-05-05 02:31:56 PM  
moonscatter: thats just gross.

/had to be said.


//nevermind... back to work.
 
2008-05-05 02:32:01 PM  
Mercutio74: NanashiKnight: Anyway, to have someone stop you from killing yourself does a world of wonder. It shows that someone out there cares about what happens to you, even if they don't know you. Just knowing that someone cares whether or not you live or die, it's an amazing realization.

Well put... and what have we learned in this thread? If you're suicidal, don't look to 80% of the Fark poster population for help.


That's because most of the internet is closet nerds who harbor anti-social views to make their internet presence that more hardcore. I cannot say whether they really feel that way or if it's just because they don't actually have to deal with people in public. A lot of what is said on Fark could get a person's ass kicked in public.
 
2008-05-05 02:42:39 PM  
huszar!:
That's because most of the internet is closet nerds who harbor anti-social views to make their internet presence that more hardcore. I cannot say whether they really feel that way or if it's just because they don't actually have to deal with people in public. A lot of what is said on Fark could get a person's ass kicked in public.



OUCH! But this.
 
2008-05-05 02:48:34 PM  
crinklefish: toonz:
speaking of which...
144?
That's just gross.

HA!

/i see what you did there


t'anks but I now see moonscatter beat me to the punch.
 
2008-05-05 02:57:35 PM  
SchlingFo
Great, he's kept 144 worthless Commies in the world to drag the rest of us down.

Do yourself, and the rest of the Capitalist world, a favor and go ahead and jump off with the next person you see.


Great job, man. My mouth fell open reading that.
 
2008-05-05 02:57:47 PM  
the_rev: He ought to let one jump every now and then. You know, just for job security.

Actually, efficency is his job security. If he lets one through, he's fired.

/May Chen Si be honored in the halls of Valhalla.
 
2008-05-05 03:08:08 PM  
I wonder if he's glad that the HERO tag has an American flag as its background.
 
2008-05-05 03:11:30 PM  
THX 1138: I wonder if he's glad that the HERO tag has an American flag as its background.

sure!
most of the people protesting in favor of china during the Olympic Torch thingy are in no rush to move back for some weird reason.

"he drinks a little and hits me, but deep down he's a good man. I just need to stay with family for a while 's all."
 
2008-05-05 03:15:20 PM  
Seeing as to how I am working my way up to full-time as a suicide crisis counselor, I have been reading the apathetic and/or cruel posts with a mixture of horror and fascination.

Shame on you!

To those who posted in a thoughtful and understanding way, KUDOS!!!

To those who have posted their personal experiences, I salute your honesty and courage.
 
2008-05-05 03:23:11 PM  
G.I.R.B.
Seeing as to how I am working my way up to full-time as a suicide crisis counselor, I have been reading the apathetic and/or cruel posts with a mixture of horror and fascination.

Someone cue the "Welcome to Fark" pic of girl crying.

Srsly, that's what Fark is, people who come here to say things that piss other people off and argue because they have nothing better to do. And I come here and read it because a. it's funny stuff and b. I've nothing better to do.
 
2008-05-05 04:07:06 PM  
///If only this man had been there when the Japanese invaded in the late '30's he could have saved many more...

//Yes, I KNOW I'm trolling

//Slashies are fun
 
2008-05-05 04:21:20 PM  
See? Only fascists deny a person's right to die. Learn to embrace suicide people, we're going to need the room.
 
2008-05-05 04:27:31 PM  
Good Death FTW!
 
2008-05-05 07:10:27 PM  
Nicely done Mr. (name I can't pronounce). That is a pretty high rate actually if you do the math. 3 a month? Seems like he is pretty busy. But what happens when he stops them and then lets them go on their way, do they just go downt he bridge a little further and do it anyway?

I just can't seem to see how anyone would want to off themselves. My best friend did it when we were 18 and my wife's aunt did it 3 months ago. It is a sad, sad situation. I can't imagine what goes on in people's mind when they come to that decision.
 
2008-05-05 07:50:51 PM  
The_Sponge: skinink: But an hour later, he wanted to save 144 more.


skinink wins the thread!


agreed
 
2008-05-05 08:45:56 PM  
The irony being, if the lives were female, China wouldn't care.

/didn't read the article.
 
2008-05-06 02:16:15 AM  
Well done that man. I'd be willing to bet that psychiatric services and crisis phone services aren't that prevalent or good in the People's Republic.
 
2008-05-06 04:18:08 AM  
yes because in a moment of desperation a dude who just lost all his money considers suicide means he isn't worth saving.

or chen si saves him and he goes on to continue to raise his kids and support his family. it'll probably be rough, but i imagine his family would find it rougher if they had to fish him out of the water and pay for a funeral and then move into poverty.

/besides, if someone was certified nutballs they'd just kill themselves at the next opportunity. or attack chen and gouge his eyes out.
 
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