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(Environmental Graffiti)   Juneau how they cut power consumption by 40%? I don't know, Alaska   (environmentalgraffiti.com ) divider line
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2008-05-03 01:37:40 PM  
Golf clap, subby. Nicely done.
 
2008-05-03 02:14:46 PM  
<b>RedSawyer90:</b> <i>Golf clap, subby. Nicely done.</i>

*bows*

/You love me, you really love me! </Struthers>
 
2008-05-03 02:31:10 PM  
But they've done it out of necessity, not because they all decided to cut their consumption out of the blue.
 
2008-05-03 03:01:22 PM  
Corniest. Headline. Ever.

+1
 
2008-05-03 03:06:51 PM  
Ron Paul Revere: <b>RedSawyer90:</b> <i>Golf clap, subby. Nicely done.</i>

<b><big><center><font color="#e00000">FAIL</font></center></big></b>

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+1 for egg-selent headline
 
2008-05-03 03:08:29 PM  
King Something: <b><big><center><font color="#e00000">FAIL</font></center></big></b>

Yeah, I forgot turning off HTML to make the Struthers joke would impact the quoting. Oh well.
 
2008-05-03 03:17:25 PM  
Ron Paul Revere: King Something: <b><big><center><font color="#e00000">FAIL</font></center></big></b>

Yeah, I forgot turning off HTML to make the Struthers joke would impact the quoting. Oh well.


A little way around that:

For the < symbol, type & followed by lt (less than) and end it with ;

For the > symbol, it's the same thing, but with gt (greater than)

Like this, but without the spaces:

& l t ; = <
& g t ; = >



/tmyk
 
2008-05-03 03:20:45 PM  
Heard a piece about this on NPR last night.

Yeah, they did it out of necessity, but the big surprise is that this huge of a cut is preemptive. No Juneauian has yet to see a higher electric bill - they hit mailboxes next month at the earliest.
 
2008-05-03 03:28:28 PM  
King Something: A little way around that:

For the < symbol, type & followed by lt (less than) and end it with ;

For the > symbol, it's the same thing, but with gt (greater than)

Like this, but without the spaces:


Thanks. I'll never make that mistake again.
 
2008-05-03 03:30:27 PM  
Ron Paul Revere: King Something: A little way around that:

For the < symbol, type & followed by lt (less than) and end it with ;

For the > symbol, it's the same thing, but with gt (greater than)

Like this, but without the spaces:

Thanks. I'll never make that mistake again.


You're welcome.

/I also make that mistake from time to time
 
2008-05-03 04:41:38 PM  
Nice. Very nice.
 
2008-05-03 04:45:53 PM  
Let me guess: moving to a more southerly climate?
 
2008-05-03 04:46:41 PM  
Awesome headline. How often is one able to make that joke in usual life?

Paul Giamatti clap.
 
2008-05-03 04:49:15 PM  
The answer to the question appears to be: quintupling the price of power. Raising the cost of a commodity leads to reduced consumption! Call the Nobel committee.
 
2008-05-03 04:49:30 PM  
They got their power lines chopped by an avalanche, forcing the city to switch to diesel backup power, at 5x the cost.

I'd be cutting back too.
 
2008-05-03 04:50:09 PM  
People are taking showers in the dark, stores are turning off most of their lighting, heck, even the airport is turning off runway lighting most of the time.

They're not doing this to 'go green', they're doing it because their only source of non oil electricity is out of service.

And people will STILL be paying higher (much higher) electric bills.

We're talking 50 cents a kWh here.

In any case, what they're doing is out of desperation, and is hardly a model for conservation - they've basically all put their lives on hold until things get fixed.
 
2008-05-03 04:50:40 PM  
Amphibimining: Paul Giamatti clap.

is that who serious clapping guy is?

i've always wondered who that is and where it's from.
 
2008-05-03 04:52:24 PM  
fark yea Juneau. Keep this up. I don't even have lights on in my house during the day.
 
2008-05-03 04:53:20 PM  
Jamaica?

Nah, she let me.

/dnrta
 
2008-05-03 04:54:41 PM  
From the article: "...it took four more years for the populace to rise back up to pre-200 levels of power usage". Pre-200 A.D. or pre-200 B.C.? And in Brazil, does it really matter? Half of the population of the Earth is living at pre-200 levels. Drat, my microwave was still plugged in from yesterday's dinner. There goes my fuel economy measures for the last three days.
 
2008-05-03 04:54:50 PM  
Came in for the Juno pics. Needless to say, I am disappointed.

/she's a hottie.
 
2008-05-03 04:56:02 PM  
December 7, 1941 - August 14, 1945: FDR to the American people - be patriotic and help conserve energy and other vital resources so we may prevail in this war against tyranny.

Sept 11, 2001 - present: GWB to the American people - be patriotic and go shopping, don't stop using as much energy as you always have and consume mass quantities so we may prevail in this war against terror.


How the hell we got from there to here, I have no farking idea.
 
2008-05-03 04:56:39 PM  
Ron Paul Revere: Struthers Field

FTFY... wrong Sally, submittard
 
2008-05-03 05:01:06 PM  
Menace II Sobriety: Came in for the Juno pics. Needless to say, I am disappointed.

/she's a hottie.


um, hope you're in high school so that wouldn't be weird or anything
 
2008-05-03 05:04:27 PM  
lawboy87: December 7, 1941 - August 14, 1945: FDR to the American people - be patriotic and help conserve energy and other vital resources so we may prevail in this war against tyranny.

Sept 11, 2001 - present: GWB to the American people - be patriotic and go shopping, don't stop using as much energy as you always have and consume mass quantities so we may prevail in this war against terror.


How the hell we got from there to here, I have no farking idea.


55 years of complacency.
 
2008-05-03 05:06:24 PM  
Wait. How do you get a pat on the back when an avalanche takes out your transformers? A happy accident does not get you a cookie.
 
2008-05-03 05:08:01 PM  
That might easily be the best headline I have seen of Fark
 
2008-05-03 05:11:09 PM  
Cup_O_Jo A happy accident does not get you a cookie.

Because you eated it?
 
2008-05-03 05:13:27 PM  
FTFA:Not only did the rate of consumption lower by 20%, but it took four more years for the populace to rise back up to pre-200 levels of power usage
Pre 200 A.D. ? Not alot of generators back then.
 
2008-05-03 05:13:29 PM  
FTA: With citizens cooking on charcoal grills, refusing to watch TV, and drying their laundry on clotheslines ...

Oh, so that's how we can do it in the lower 48 - forced behavior modification!
 
2008-05-03 05:14:50 PM  
i have several friends who live in juneau, AK so i'm really getting a kick out of some of these replies. went up there last summer, was stoned and drunk the whole week, hiked into a glacier cave, fished for salmon and partied in every bar (not that there are very many bars in downtown juneau but whatevs)

great place, awesome people. only reason not to live there fulltime is that it's a tiny island that you can only get to/from my boat or plane. you can literally drive from one end of the main road to the other, it just stops at the edge of the island lol

dnrtfa so i'm not sure if that second paragraph was covered already
 
2008-05-03 05:18:00 PM  
Do you know who Garblox is: Menace II Sobriety: Came in for the Juno pics. Needless to say, I am disappointed.

/she's a hottie.

um, hope you're in high school so that wouldn't be weird or anything


?_? She's in her 20s.
 
2008-05-03 05:18:43 PM  
Menace II Sobriety: Came in for the Juno pics. Needless to say, I am disappointed.

/she's a hottie.


Could not finish the movie. Everytime she spoke I wanted to punch her. If teenages talk like that now, the USA is doomed.
 
2008-05-03 05:19:41 PM  
Tigerlilylynn: Do you know who Garblox is: Menace II Sobriety: Came in for the Juno pics. Needless to say, I am disappointed.

/she's a hottie.

um, hope you're in high school so that wouldn't be weird or anything

?_? She's in her 20s.


this is true. she's 23 or something.
 
2008-05-03 05:22:55 PM  
it took me three read throughs to get it. I groaned. +1 subby.
 
2008-05-03 05:25:30 PM  
PsychoPhil: heck, even the airport is turning off runway lighting most of the time.

img90.imageshack.us
Approves.
 
2008-05-03 05:27:15 PM  
Good job, Juneau. Impressive, whether forced upon you or not.

i185.photobucket.com
 
2008-05-03 05:41:10 PM  
Hmm, I was going to climate-change-denier-troll the sweet ass off this thread, but this story is actually a pretty interesting example of incentives. Which is to say, people generally won't act even in their own best interest unless there are clear-cut advantages RIGHT NOW to doing so.

Maybe power does need to cost 2x as much as it does. Maybe we need to incorporate more externalities into the cost. Would that allow the use of "greener" or more sustainable sources? You can already buy green power here in Ontario, but with most of the grid still kicking it old-school, it's largely a token gesture.

Because apparently "so your children will have a better life" isn't much of a kick in the pants for most people.
 
2008-05-03 05:41:31 PM  
rainbow sprinkles
I am a big PMS Zilla right now..Just lock me ina closet and throw chocolate cookies..MWAHAHAHAHA..grrrrrr. Steps on Alaska.
 
2008-05-03 05:45:37 PM  
quote from the article: "and Juneau may be proving that Americans are prepared to accept it."

HA HAH HAHAHAHAHAHAH

accept?

i seriously think not. ONLY when it comes at a PRICE will they be willing to accept it - and even then, only for a limited time, and at the risk of not being able to afford ANYTHING else. Besides the fact that people who live in more remote areas like Juneau are already the types to can deal with - or even enjoy - living with reduced amenities, (what, no big-ass shopping malls?) it's NOT LIKE THEY REALLY HAVE A CHOICE IN THE MATTER.

Now if, say...Los Angeles was able to pull this off, i would be incredibly impressed.
 
2008-05-03 05:50:22 PM  
bluebell73:
Now if, say...Los Angeles was able to pull this off, i would be incredibly impressed.

You think people there wouldn't do without other luxuries if it meant being able to run their air conditioning sometimes?
 
2008-05-03 05:56:52 PM  
i100.photobucket.com

I logged in for the first time in months to post THIS
 
2008-05-03 05:57:00 PM  
If you shut off all the power, it's 1835.

The last killer app was distributable electricity.

Everything else just uses it.
 
2008-05-03 06:01:05 PM  
No Such Agency: Maybe power does need to cost 2x as much as it does.

Thanks, comrade. Only when the state steers the behavior of the masses can we achieve true utopia!
 
2008-05-03 06:06:16 PM  
i21.photobucket.com
 
2008-05-03 06:07:42 PM  
i86.photobucket.com
 
2008-05-03 06:14:01 PM  
No Such Agency: Maybe power does need to cost 2x as much as it does.

So you are saying that oil companies should charge more for their product? Would be a great thing if you owned stock.

Oh, you mean the government. Hell no. I trust the oil companies more than I trust the government.
 
2008-05-03 06:14:50 PM  
Am I the only one questioning how substituting charcoal cooking for electrical cooking is better for the environment?

/My secret? I read the articles.
 
2008-05-03 06:21:09 PM  
99 percent of Americans couldn't find Juneau on an unlabelled atlas or satellite photo of North America, if their life depended on it.
 
2008-05-03 06:23:59 PM  
twfeline: 99 percent of Americans couldn't find Juneau on an unlabelled atlas or satellite photo of North America, if their life depended on it.

hell, i've been there and i prolly couldn't find it on a map. i know the general area, but that shiat is SMALL.
 
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