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2008-05-01 11:20:39 AM
Satan_Sunburn: I guess you have a different definition of trivial than I do.

yes I do, you want to spend my money so people half way around the world can vote for some puppet regime. f*ck off with that, if you want to tout anything, tout the bpd we get from the sands of Iraq to run our economy.
 
2008-05-01 11:20:45 AM
pvd021: I think anyone who feels the need to commit or carryout their call to 'duty' has everything coming to them, good and bad. From the looks of things, its just a failed investment. And if these guys come back with missing limbs, or don't come back at all, they really have no one to blame but themselves. They're not defending my freedom or way of life, so they can do what they want, and deal with the results of their decision.


A lot of people will flame you for that comment.

The truth is often painful and people always react to painful truth with bitter rhetoric.

Can anyone name a war that we've fought, since 1865, for the purpose of protecting American freedom? Explain how, exactly, that war protected American freedom.
 
2008-05-01 11:21:20 AM
Hang On Voltaire: tuna fingers: I don't see many yellow ribbon magnets anymore.

W supporters, you were duped, plain and simple.

/I remember the "Glass. Parking. Lot." spewed by some of you assholes.
//Obama '08

as opposed to you who predicted the "Arab Street" would explode if we invaded Iraq?


Wrong again, punchy. The people that shared my opinion predicted a long, drawn-out war, with unknown results/consequences.
 
2008-05-01 11:21:32 AM
Random Reality Check:

Sorry, I forgot what a paradise Iraq was before we ruined it.
 
2008-05-01 11:21:39 AM
I've spent the last five years seething with rage at the destruction of my nation's Constitution and at the complete obliteration of a country that had nothing to do with 9/11.

But hey, as long as all the short-sighted jerks on Fark are placated with cable TV and mollified by their week-end outlet mall visits to purchase all the irregular t-shirts their bloated guts and man-boobs can handle, it's all good.
 
2008-05-01 11:22:01 AM
Nestea Plunge: Funny how it's the cons and neo-cons who gleefully send young people off to die to make them feel tough claim it's the libs who are at fault.

Aside from the recent wafer thin majority of Democrats in congress, Republicans have effectively been in charge since 2001. The GOP forced an illegal invasion of Iraq with dubious evidence, poor or no planning for the occupation of Iraq, poor or no treatment from corrupt VA organizations for injured soldiers, extending tours and sending soldiers back into the same areas over and over again to pacify them.

There is no clear definition of victory, that changes as often as the reasons for invading has.

To clusterfark the largest and best armed forces in the world, nationbuilding a place they destroyed under orders of Bush, is a serious missallocation of military resources. Meanwhile, Al Qaeda is pretty much as functional as it ever was.

War is not a videogame, I sure hope Bush enjoyed strutting around like a farking peacock on that carrier, because mother's sons and daughters will still be stuck in that shiathole Iraq due to his ineptitude and hubris. God have mercy on your soul, Bush.


IEDs

/the Rims of war threads
 
2008-05-01 11:22:10 AM
DaCaptain19:

Consider also that while our Republican President has the worst ratings of any Presidency, our Democrat-controlled Congress has even greater dismal ratings.


Besides the fact that folks have been hating on Congress since Will Rogers' time, there is a big difference between people disapproving the entity "Congress" and disapproving of the president, "George W Bush".

For example, "the (local) government is inept and crooked" is a critique on the process whereas "Selectman John H. Smith is inept and crooked" is a critique of the person.
 
2008-05-01 11:23:29 AM
Giblet: pvd021: I think anyone who feels the need to commit or carryout their call to 'duty' has everything coming to them, good and bad. From the looks of things, its just a failed investment. And if these guys come back with missing limbs, or don't come back at all, they really have no one to blame but themselves. They're not defending my freedom or way of life, so they can do what they want, and deal with the results of their decision.


A lot of people will flame you for that comment.

The truth is often painful and people always react to painful truth with bitter rhetoric.

Can anyone name a war that we've fought, since 1865, for the purpose of protecting American freedom? Explain how, exactly, that war protected American freedom.


Errr the war against drugs.... LMFAO - roll me a fat one....
 
2008-05-01 11:24:45 AM
On this evening 5 yrs ago, this is what we got from an MSNBC pundit.
And this clown is still on the air telling us what to think.

"[T]he president deserves everything he's doing tonight in terms of his leadership. He won the war. He was an effective commander. Everybody recognizes that, I believe, except a few critics. ... Here's a president who's really nonverbal. He's like Eisenhower. He looks great in a military uniform."
 
2008-05-01 11:24:46 AM
clancifer: The trolls are out early today.

Personally, my salary has gone up nearly 50% in the last 5 years. Had two kids, got a new house, and life has been pretty good. Thanks for asking.


Well, that made up for the dead Iraqis and dead soldiers then! Thanks!
 
2008-05-01 11:24:59 AM
Today, my salary is about 500% more than it was 5 years ago and my car is new.

Then again, those 5 years encompassed a diploma and a bachelors, I'm payed about 25% less than I'm worth (30% if you factor in current inflation rates) and as a 24 year old man, I live with my parents.

/happy birthday to me...
 
2008-05-01 11:25:03 AM
Its got progressively worse but, hey. At least I'm not dead, I've got a job, I've got a roof over my head and I can watch the TV shows that I'd like to watch.

Sure would be nice if it was on a 42" TV but i'm not going to be picky.
 
2008-05-01 11:25:10 AM
"President Bush is well aware that the banner should have been much more specific and said 'mission accomplished' for these sailors who are on this ship on their mission,"

HAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHA

*INHALE*

HAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHA

We need a photoshop of this, stat!
 
2008-05-01 11:25:16 AM
Changed companies, went to France, got an awesome new guitar/amp, broke up with GF, told some other leaches to fu*k off, had some drinks, got in a fight, kissed some girls and tried not to watch TV so I could pretend none of this shiat was happening because there isnt a damn thing I can do about it anyway.

Keep on rockin' in the free world.
 
2008-05-01 11:25:18 AM
In poverty.

And you?
 
2008-05-01 11:25:19 AM
Satan_Sunburn: Sammy Jenkins:

You fail. I guess you should enlist with the insurgents since you don't support us being there?


Have you ever given it some thought? After all, Bin Laden himself says that he couldn't have hoped for a better retaliation from us. It's given his guys all the power and legitimacy they've ever wanted in that region.
 
2008-05-01 11:25:28 AM
brainiac-dumdum: I've spent the last five years seething with rage at the destruction of my nation's Constitution and at the complete obliteration of a country that had nothing to do with 9/11.

But hey, as long as all the short-sighted jerks on Fark are placated with cable TV and mollified by their week-end outlet mall visits to purchase all the irregular t-shirts their bloated guts and man-boobs can handle, it's all good.


Allow me to interpret:

RON PAUL!
 
2008-05-01 11:25:34 AM
Well, in 2003, inspired by the example of my leaders, I decided to abandon any pretense of honesty, ethics, or morality, and simply pursue what I desire with ruthless and unprincipled zeal.
So, naturally, the last five years have been GREAT for me!
 
2008-05-01 11:25:47 AM
Sammy Jenkins: U.S. troop death is FOR THE MONTH OF APRIL at a 7 month high...why don't you go over and replace one of those soldiers?
 
2008-05-01 11:25:47 AM
OlafTheBent: Satan_Sunburn: I can hardly wait to witness the amount of mental masturbation the libs will contribute to this thread.

I had heard that Republicans like you enjoy it when someone masterbates on them... didn't really believe it until your admission.

/Go figure...


Oh wow, how witty of you! You da man!

/Idiot can't even spell masturbate. Odd since I'm sure you do a lot of it.
//Spelling it isn't required to do it, I suppose.
 
2008-05-01 11:25:59 AM
Satan_Sunburn: Sorry, I forgot what a paradise Iraq was before we ruined it.

It wasn't a paradise, but it was better under Hussein than it is under us.
 
2008-05-01 11:26:01 AM
img216.imageshack.us
 
2008-05-01 11:26:16 AM
Satan_Sunburn: Random Reality Check:

Sorry, I forgot what a paradise Iraq was before we ruined it.


Well, if that's the way you look at it, I'm sure you won't mind if I bring freedom to your rat hole apartment.

The roaches will great me as a liberator.
 
2008-05-01 11:26:20 AM
Knock on formica-- life is great these days.
 
2008-05-01 11:26:35 AM
Satan Sunburn- I lol'd at yer posts.

You tell them dumbass libs how it is!
 
2008-05-01 11:26:37 AM
Third Day Mark: Its got progressively worse but, hey. At least I'm not dead, I've got a job, I've got a roof over my head and I can watch the TV shows that I'd like to watch.

Sure would be nice if it was on a 42" TV but i'm not going to be picky.


Don't sell yourself short, go for the 50" It's worth the extra bucks.
 
2008-05-01 11:27:01 AM
hungryhungryhorus: Today, my salary is about 500% more than it was 5 years ago and my car is new.

Then again, those 5 years encompassed a diploma and a bachelors, I'm payed about 25% less than I'm worth (30% if you factor in current inflation rates) and as a 24 year old man, I live with my parents.

/happy birthday to me...


You have a new car but live with your parents?

Loser.
 
2008-05-01 11:27:05 AM
emocomputerjock: brainiac-dumdum: I've spent the last five years seething with rage at the destruction of my nation's Constitution and at the complete obliteration of a country that had nothing to do with 9/11.

But hey, as long as all the short-sighted jerks on Fark are placated with cable TV and mollified by their week-end outlet mall visits to purchase all the irregular t-shirts their bloated guts and man-boobs can handle, it's all good.

Allow me to interpret:

RON PAUL!


I don't vote for overt crazies.
 
2008-05-01 11:27:12 AM
DaCaptain19

Not to sound cold, but do people join the military with some expectation of never having to serve? I mean...I work for an employer doing analyses of different strategic initiatives - I don't decide "well, I'm not going to analyze THIS initiative" just because I may have philosophical disagreements with it. I'm sorry that being in the military is no longer just a great way to get college credits...it IS "The Military" - as an enlisted member you may actually be asked to fight in a war!

P.S. Who I DO really feel badly for are the National Guardsmen, who legitimately did not have an expectation of long-term deployment. BTW, in every single U.S. war INCLUDING the "Great Wars" of WWI and II, the government/military has constantly reneged on promises to it's recruits. So this shait isn't good, but neither is it unique to the Iraq/Afghanistan conflicts. Yep, it sucks.


Not in this case. My husband was counting on freaking Afghanistan and took the oath about six months before this clusterfark began. He wasn't pissed about deployment, he was pissed about where and why he was being sent. My husband did NOT join for college. It is just a perk, really. He did it because he felt a sense of duty and country. He did it not to get farked over completely by those who send him where they will. He wasn't expecting all these bullshiat lies (some of them are expected) when they were so transparent. He wanted to fight FOR America in finding Osama. You can imagine how that turned out. It is not just the NG getting farked. Now it is everyone. Its just a shiat covered coin. Two sides, both shiatty.
 
2008-05-01 11:27:14 AM
Jamespoon: Have you ever given it some thought? After all, Bin Laden himself says that he couldn't have hoped for a better retaliation from us. It's given his guys all the power and legitimacy they've ever wanted in that region.

and you believe this? what's he supposed to say to his minions? "uhh, yeah, we're getting our ass kicked"

his comments have no credibility, nor do those who quote him.
 
2008-05-01 11:27:18 AM
SchlingFo: Satan_Sunburn: Sorry, I forgot what a paradise Iraq was before we ruined it.

It wasn't a paradise, but it was better under Hussein than it is under us.


Oh, you can't be serious.

3/10
 
2008-05-01 11:27:51 AM
Satan_Sunburn: Nestea Plunge:
Exactly, nation buildingraping is what the UN *cough* is for. And they're doing a hell of a job.


FTFY. No charge.
 
2008-05-01 11:28:33 AM
I got kicked out of college for sharing music on my personal computer. (Admin even said "We just have to make an example out of someone").

Got into a new college I wished I had gone to from the start. Broke up with my longterm girlfriend, got a new girlfriend, broke up with her. Graduated college. Got an awesome job. Got awesome reviews after 1 year and got my 8% raise. (I guess technically my yearly pay has gone up by 400%.

Discovered the drug of alcohol. Been arrested 3 times because of drug. Tore 2 ACLs, 1 UCL and dislocated a Toe.

It's a wash.
 
2008-05-01 11:28:39 AM
Bob Dolemite: and you believe this?

Why not? Isn't that what this thread is all about?
 
2008-05-01 11:28:40 AM
pillowpants: Paying $3.50 in gas for what some people consider an "oil" war.

"oil war" != "plunder the oil and give the spoils to the taxpayers". It's about control of resources, specifically, shifting the control from one group of rich people to another. And that has, indeed, been accomplished.

Also, one of the main reasons the price of oil is going nuts is because it's priced in dollars, and the dollar is sinking. The dollar has been sinking for years now because rich, powerful people the world over are losing confidence in the long-term stability of the US economy. Seeing the massive debts we've racked up without any noticeable benefit to the country, I can't say I blame them.
 
2008-05-01 11:29:02 AM
UpstateMonkey: Third Day Mark: Its got progressively worse but, hey. At least I'm not dead, I've got a job, I've got a roof over my head and I can watch the TV shows that I'd like to watch.

Sure would be nice if it was on a 42" TV but i'm not going to be picky.

Don't sell yourself short, go for the 50" It's worth the extra bucks.


Man I'd really like to but I dunno. I'm not *that* much of a Videophile but It would kick ass to be playing Gears of War 2 on a 50" tv.

Damn. Decisions decisions.

/Got $3300 coming my way from a settlement, wasn't planning on buying a TV but if I can get one on the cheap I'd do it.
 
2008-05-01 11:29:13 AM
Somewhere around 600,000 Iragi civilians have been killed.
 
2008-05-01 11:29:46 AM
brainiac-dumdum:
SchlingFo:
Headso:
Random Reality Check:
Sammy Jenkins:


i248.photobucket.com
 
2008-05-01 11:29:58 AM
...A world war can be won
You want me to believe
But I see through your eyes
And I see through your brain
Like I see through the water
That runs down my drain...


// Can't get this song out of my mind...
 
2008-05-01 11:30:02 AM
Tag is for the soldiers, I assume. I'm giving the benefit of the doubt here or I'm seeing a lot of stupid in this thread.

\Prays tag is for the soldiers.
 
2008-05-01 11:30:19 AM
Lets see I drank a lot, farked around a lot, traveled a lot. Lost a few great girl friends. Moved a few times. Slowly going broke due to everything costing more, rent, fuel, beer, food, beer, bacon, power; and my COL not increasing at the same rate. I don't know. It was a damn good time. Probably because I didn't have to go to the middle east like some of my friends did. But I've slowly become more an more pissed at my own country.

/09
 
2008-05-01 11:30:25 AM
i216.photobucket.com
 
2008-05-01 11:30:26 AM
Satan Sunburn

why don't you tell us how Iraq was before, then after. I'm sure you were there, right? Photographic evidence? Memoirs? Because you would never speculate such things on just what you read or hear on the news alone, right?
 
2008-05-01 11:30:32 AM
DaCaptian19

Consider also that while our Republican President has the worst ratings of any Presidency, our Democrat-controlled Congress has even greater dismal ratings.

Dismal ratings because, if you look at the actual questions people were asked, the public is tired of Congress going along with the President.

But hey, keep acting like you Get It(TM), or whatever.

I'm not a Bush supporter, but what I really don't support is misinformation. Like "global warming caused by greenhouse gases" (possible but the evidence is shaky at best), the "we're in a recession" (we're NOT), "food/oil are scarce" (they're NOT), etc. Mindless sheep, most have become...

Fake moderates are funny. And no one's saying that food/oil are scarce, rather, that peak oil looms and that the world's food supply has taken a big hit recently.
 
2008-05-01 11:30:44 AM
Satan_Sunburn: SchlingFo: Satan_Sunburn: Sorry, I forgot what a paradise Iraq was before we ruined it.

It wasn't a paradise, but it was better under Hussein than it is under us.

Oh, you can't be serious.

3/10


Could be a troll, or just a poorly worded good point. Iraq under Saddam was infinitly worse for the Iraqi people I'm sure, even if there country is being blown to bits now.

But Iraq under Saddam was much easier to control, sanctions pretty much kept them under our watchfull eye, he couldn't do a damn thing.
 
2008-05-01 11:31:14 AM
HA! I was THERE, man!!
 
2008-05-01 11:31:15 AM
DulceEtDecorumEst Quote 2008-05-01 11:17:17 AM
Nice try at a troll submittard. What you fail to realize is that Bush has the support of the troops and of the majority of americans who care enough about their country to actually vote. Oh, and what else, the surge has worked, al quaeda is on the run, and you FAIL.


How many Iraqis died in Basra yesterday?
/yes I know your trolling
 
2008-05-01 11:31:22 AM
brainiac-dumdum: emocomputerjock: brainiac-dumdum: I've spent the last five years seething with rage at the destruction of my nation's Constitution and at the complete obliteration of a country that had nothing to do with 9/11.

But hey, as long as all the short-sighted jerks on Fark are placated with cable TV and mollified by their week-end outlet mall visits to purchase all the irregular t-shirts their bloated guts and man-boobs can handle, it's all good.

Allow me to interpret:

RON PAUL!

I don't vote for overt crazies.


Dammit, I admit defeat. Your kung fu is stronger.
 
2008-05-01 11:31:25 AM
i216.photobucket.com

/genius

//posted earlier in another thread, needs repeating
 
2008-05-01 11:31:41 AM
Satan_Sunburn You fail. I guess you should enlist with the insurgents since you don't support us being there?

His comment, I think, was more about how you are making zero sacrifices while cheering on the continued unnecessary sacrifices of others. While some of us support the troops, there are many out there who will continue to move the goal post and find any reason, logical or other, to excuse their continued support of a failed policy that kills so many, often because they are too stubborn to say "we were wrong about our support for the war" or, gasp, support withdrawal because that's what the evil democrats support.

We'd simply rather these troops come home to be with their families, raise their children, and lead a more normal life then what they have now in a desert shiathole. You and I disagree here, but like I said, some of us support the troops and have a sense of patriotism, while others don't. But that's your right as an American, a right that these men and women are charged with protecting.

However, I, and many others here, take their responsibility seriously. As civilians in a system where the military is civilian run, we recognize that if there's a need to fight, they are sent first. With that power, though, comes the responsibility we have towards them. Responsibility to use our best judgment and responsibility to correct our mistakes. Every reason trotted out for this war was wrong, and therefor sending our troops was a mistake. One we should correct, as we owe them that much.

But like I said, wanting to keep them in a desert, away from their families, on a vague mission with no end in sight, is your right. I just hope you thank them for protecting that right when you see them.

/How neocons and their supporters cornered the market on "we're more patriotic" is beyond me.
 
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