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(Chicago Breaking News)   "You can have my 1500 calorie sandwich when you take it from my cold, dead, fat hands." The movement is now afoot to make being fat a "legal right." Movement members can't see their feet but it's afoot anyway   (chicagotribune.com) divider line 416
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2008-04-28 12:14:37 PM
It's time we start suing the obese for second hand fat. If we can ban smokers from public places, we should take it a step further -- it's visual pollution!

/Don't make be take away your stick with a wet rag on it!
 
2008-04-28 12:15:23 PM
Klippoklondike: This girl is a true winner

KILL IT WITH FIRE!!!
 
2008-04-28 12:15:34 PM
Because I'm fat, I'm fat, come on
(Fat, fat, really really fat)
You know I'm fat, I'm fat, you know it
(Fat, fat, really really fat)
You know I'm fat, I'm fat, come on you know
(Fat, fat, really really fat)
Don'tcha call me pudgy, portly or stout
Just now tell me once again who's fat


/wow, this far and not one mention of Weird Al?
 
2008-04-28 12:16:09 PM
Ruca: From what do obese or overweight individuals need protection?

Meteoroids and low-orbiting satellites.
 
2008-04-28 12:16:49 PM
Former 315lb fatty giving his oppinion.

I think for a lot of people who are overweight, they truly feel trapped and resigned to their weight. This is especially true for people who have been overweight all of their lives. A lot of people simply don't know how to loose weight or even where to start. It doesn't help much when society itself seems to stack the cards against you. Let's face it, obesity rates are increasing for a reason.

On top of that there is the fact that it is a lot harder to take off weight than it is to put on, and people are looking for a quick fix. A lot of people are turning to dangerous surgeries to correct their weight problems instead of making the lifestyle changes that would lead to truly healthier lives.

I tried for years to loose weight. I tried exercising and didn't seem to get anywhere (mainly because I hadn't changed my *diet*) and I tried dieting which never seemed to work either (because I lacked goals and a measure of progress).

However, it is possible to loose weight. I'm now just barely over 185lbs -- well under the max end of the BMI for someone my height (6'2). I did it in just over a year through proper diet and exercise. Once I learned how many calories I needed to eat in a day, how to properly read labels and started exercising it didn't take long for the weight to come off. I'm now working towards running a marathon.

If I can do it, then anyone can with the right amount of effort. People just need to know that a healthy life *is* a choice they can make and not some dream. Too many people are just resigned to living out the "fat" label they have had all of their lives. They make excuses for not putting the effort in or convince themselves that it can't be done.

I don't see overweight people as slobs who just eat everything in front of them. They are people with a problem and a lack of direction. Many feel too depressed and worthless to change or too trapped to try. Maybe they have tried, they just don't know how to succeed. Sure, there are some out there who are perfectly content to be overweight, but that's not the case for everyone.

I find groups like this -- groups looking to categorize obesity right alongside race, religion and sexual orientation -- are doing obese people a huge disservice. They are reinforcing the notion that being fat is just a way of being when it doesn't have to be.
 
2008-04-28 12:16:53 PM
Russ1642:
Vodka on the rocks is even better.


This FTW.

Why would you ever take a perfectly good thing like vodka and then go and ruin it?

New rule. Until you get your BMI down to 25, all you get to consume is vodka.
 
2008-04-28 12:17:08 PM
Wait, this covers height and weight?

You have no control over your height. You have a lot of control over your weight.

Being about six-and-a-half feet tall I'd love to see saw mandating water fountains be placed higher, leg room in bathroom stalls, etc. but I'm sure they're talking about midgets.
 
2008-04-28 12:17:14 PM
It's a hard point to argue in some cases. I mean some believe that being gay is a choice lifestyle while others claim that they are born that way. Some cases of obesity possibly cannot be helped (genetic, medication, etc.) while I would be safe to say that a majority are due to personal responsibility.

I was super-super-morbid obese (a true medical designation) meaning I was more than 200lbs overweight. It due to my own actions that allowed me to balloon up to over 520lbs. I made a choice several years ago to change my lifestyle and have since lost over 240lbs.

When you are ready, you are ready to make the choice. I've seen too many people half-ass their weightloss efforts and then whine when it doesn't work or makes things worse (gaining back +).

Oh, and I think the current BMI standards need to be revised. Current standards puts me at a healthy range of 125-175lbs, which I think would make me almost anorexic...

/I weighed more than Jared from Subway
//No, really I did
///www.iweighedmorethanjared.com for pix and my story
 
2008-04-28 12:17:24 PM
mrsirjojo: If I've always felt Jesus in my heart, for as long as I can remember, does that mean Jesus exists?

No, it just means you are gay for god.
 
2008-04-28 12:17:47 PM
cryinoutloud: mysticcat: By all means, feel free to be morbidly obese if you like, but realize that people will judge you because of it. Just like they would judge you if you had a mohawk or a face tattoo or a metal bar through your nose. A choice that leads to an extreme appearance will evoke a reaction. There must be an element of personal responsibility in society.

People judge you by appearance--sorry, that's the way it is. You think I like it? I'm a middle-aged woman. If you want to get multiple body mods, weigh 400 pounds, and dress in flaming orange hoop skirts, be my guest--but I'm going to form an opinion about you based on this. And if you're saying, "Well, I'm a person beyond what shows on the outside!" then why did you go to so much trouble to alter your appearance so that everybody sees only one aspect of you?

==================================

But what constitutes "going through all of that"? Is it one piercing or five? Is it ok to have a tatoo on your ankle? Your arm? What size? What are the imaginary limits of acceptable appearence? Your presuposition that a person whom you don't know acts a certain way because of what they chose to wear is childish. Adults like you are the reason schools adopt uniforms. Its so they can stop focusing on the unimportant (appearence) and focusing on things that have substance. Maybe the government should issue all of us uniforms so you can get past it.
 
2008-04-28 12:17:48 PM
Be as fat as you want, but I'm not paying for your triple bypass, Michael Moore.
 
2008-04-28 12:17:55 PM
Kirkland, who said she is not overweight

Nope, just big boned.



i know her, she is very hot.
 
2008-04-28 12:18:25 PM
Galvatron Zero: On top of that there is the fact that it is a lot harder to take off weight than it is to put on, and people are looking for a quick fix.

Legislating against the 'quick fix diet' industry that preys on the chubbies would help out the cause more than anything else.
 
2008-04-28 12:18:26 PM
What's with you commies not wanting people to be fat if they choose to be?

Part of me still thinks I'd rather live to 40 and die fat and happy than live to 80 and die bland and boring.

/Just lost 45lbs.
//Ladies how you dooooin?
 
2008-04-28 12:18:46 PM
Presupposition
 
2008-04-28 12:18:47 PM
Russ1642: jst3p: error 303: PhoenixInFlames:
... Yeah. Okay. I need alcohol now.

Rum preferred.

Stick with clear rum. That dark/spiced stuff has extra carbs and calories that will just go to your thighs.

Vodka and cranberry juice is the healthy way to get smashed.

Vodka on the rocks is even better.


You guys are lucky I haven't managed to get my hands on any, or you'd have owed me not only a new keyboard, but a glass of rum as well!

Thanks for reminding me why I love you farkers.

And thanks for the tips! I've already heard about the cranberry and vodka (squeaky clean, man!)... but I'll have to check out the clear rum. Jamaican Gold is a favorite in our house.
 
2008-04-28 12:19:33 PM
Galvatron Zero: Former 315lb fatty giving his oppinion.

I think for a lot of people who are overweight, they truly feel trapped and resigned to their weight. This is especially true for people who have been overweight all of their lives. A lot of people simply don't know how to loose weight or even where to start. It doesn't help much when society itself seems to stack the cards against you. Let's face it, obesity rates are increasing for a reason.

On top of that there is the fact that it is a lot harder to take off weight than it is to put on, and people are looking for a quick fix. A lot of people are turning to dangerous surgeries to correct their weight problems instead of making the lifestyle changes that would lead to truly healthier lives.

I tried for years to loose weight. I tried exercising and didn't seem to get anywhere (mainly because I hadn't changed my *diet*) and I tried dieting which never seemed to work either (because I lacked goals and a measure of progress).

However, it is possible to loose weight. I'm now just barely over 185lbs -- well under the max end of the BMI for someone my height (6'2). I did it in just over a year through proper diet and exercise. Once I learned how many calories I needed to eat in a day, how to properly read labels and started exercising it didn't take long for the weight to come off. I'm now working towards running a marathon.

If I can do it, then anyone can with the right amount of effort. People just need to know that a healthy life *is* a choice they can make and not some dream. Too many people are just resigned to living out the "fat" label they have had all of their lives. They make excuses for not putting the effort in or convince themselves that it can't be done.

I don't see overweight people as slobs who just eat everything in front of them. They are people with a problem and a lack of direction. Many feel too depressed and worthless to change or too trapped to try. Maybe they have tried, they just don't know how to succeed. Sure, there are some out there who are perfectly content to be overweight, but that's not the case for everyone.

I find groups like this -- groups looking to categorize obesity right alongside race, religion and sexual orientation -- are doing obese people a huge disservice. They are reinforcing the notion that being fat is just a way of being when it doesn't have to be.


Drop the extra "o" from every instance of the word "loose" and that is like 5 pounds right there.
 
2008-04-28 12:20:08 PM
anarchy_x: MIND YOUR OWN BUSINESS (it makes for a nicer world).

I'll mind my business when you mind your sweaty fat folds from my airplane seat.

/from under AND over the armrest, dammit.
 
2008-04-28 12:21:21 PM
i don't feel like reading this thread, but the movement is pointless. It's not that you have a legal right to be fat, it's that the government doesn't have the power to dictate how many twinkies you can fit in your mouth in one bite.
 
2008-04-28 12:22:47 PM
tharealmegaman: Part of me still thinks I'd rather live to 40 and die fat and happy than live to 80 and die bland and boring.

Wow, you would sacrifice half your life span to eat shiat food? You really really like Taco-Bell. If I ever got to the point where junk food was my only pleasure in life I would walk my fat ass into oncoming traffic with a quickness.
 
2008-04-28 12:23:40 PM
El Chode's Deal for America


I won't tell you how to live your life or tell you to not be ______________, but you can't tell me I'm wrong when I make fun of you for being _______________
 
2008-04-28 12:24:01 PM
jst3p:
Drop the extra "o" from every instance of the word "loose" and that is like 5 pounds right there.



Thanks. That's one of those damn typed out things I absolutely cringe at.
 
2008-04-28 12:25:11 PM
i133.photobucket.com
 
2008-04-28 12:25:37 PM
El Chode: El Chode's Deal for America

I won't tell you how to live your life or tell you to not be a kiddie diddler, but you can't tell me I'm wrong when I make fun of you for being kiddie diddler


Guess there need to be limits, where we draw the line is the sticky issue.
 
2008-04-28 12:25:59 PM
i came here to see the nom nom kid pics
 
2008-04-28 12:26:26 PM
dothemath: tharealmegaman: Part of me still thinks I'd rather live to 40 and die fat and happy than live to 80 and die bland and boring.

Wow, you would sacrifice half your life span to eat shiat food? You really really like Taco-Bell. If I ever got to the point where junk food was my only pleasure in life I would walk my fat ass into oncoming traffic with a quickness.


Fast food isn't the only unhealthy food.

I love wine. I love Italian food. 20oz steaks. Fine dining in general. Go google up some calories on those foods and they're (almost) just as bad as most fast food meals.

/Taco Bell sucks ass.
//Goes to BK for the salad.
 
2008-04-28 12:28:01 PM
mightybaldking

did they eat each other after.....?
 
2008-04-28 12:28:16 PM
jst3p: Guess there need to be limits, where we draw the line is the sticky issue

What i'm talking about is words. I'm trading you the right to live your life the way you see fit in exchange for you not being uppity when I say "don't be ___________"

Words. Nothing more, nothing less. No lines need to be drawn.
 
2008-04-28 12:28:43 PM
www.fatfantasygirl.com
 
2008-04-28 12:30:35 PM
i257.photobucket.com

I work in the health field and I've seen many people on disability for obesity. They get arthritis, diabeetus, depression etc. Make no mistake, society does pay for the choices of some fat people.
 
2008-04-28 12:31:09 PM
If some employers pass up the best candidates because they are overweight, doesn't that just mean that other employers who *aren't* discriminatory get to load up their organizations with super-competent fat people and then destroy their competition?

Doesn't capitalism inherently punish people who refuse to hire the best candidate for a job, already? I think this would be more of an issue if fat people were getting denied admission to universities, or denied scholarships, simply because they are fat.
 
2008-04-28 12:31:55 PM
DROxINxTHExWIND: What are the imaginary limits of acceptable appearence



If I'm hiring someone, then they're whatever I say they are.
 
2008-04-28 12:32:29 PM
ah yes. the new heartbeat of America. with the heart struggling for just one more beat while wrestling with the weight turning into a pulp
 
2008-04-28 12:32:30 PM
As a thin smoker I have no sympathy for the whiny fat people being "discriminated" against. As I have been told many times...."Just quit"
 
Ant
2008-04-28 12:32:54 PM
MyPoolLeaks: Claiming that it's my fault someone won't lose weight because I made fun of them is like a parent saying it's the teacher's fault their kid doesn't know right from wrong because the teacher didn't teach it.

I didn't think Zxaranthium made that claim at all. He just said that you're (generic you) making an already difficult task harder by making fun of people.
 
2008-04-28 12:34:00 PM
in honor of this thread, i'm going to have chicken fried steak with country gravy and mashed pataters tonight.

\was going to have it anyway.
 
2008-04-28 12:34:01 PM
El Chode: jst3p: Guess there need to be limits, where we draw the line is the sticky issue

What i'm talking about is words. I'm trading you the right to live your life the way you see fit in exchange for you not being uppity when I say "don't be ___________"

Words. Nothing more, nothing less. No lines need to be drawn.


As a society we can't give everyone the right to live their life any way they see fit. Some people are really farked up. I understanding what you are saying and I don't agree that the government should regulate or protect fat people but "live however you want" is flawed. Since the first part of your conditional statement is broken the second part is moot.
 
Ant
2008-04-28 12:34:45 PM
littledaisies: How can you even compare that to race, sex or religion.

I didn't know religion was genetic.
 
2008-04-28 12:37:46 PM
SnarfVader: Being fat for most people is a choice. Your sexual orientation, nationality, gender, disability, and age are most definitely not choices. That's why those categories deserve protection and being fat doesn't.

Unfortunately, it looks like being stupid isn't a choice for these people either.



What about religion? Obviously the religion you were raised in was not your choice, but the religion you are currently is. Just because something is a personal decision does not mean it is not deserving of protection.

I think this proposed legislation is asinine, but I thought I should throw this idea out there.
 
2008-04-28 12:38:35 PM
DROxINxTHExWIND: Everyone wants to talk about fat people's rights but has anyone considered the dangers of second-hand gravy?

Is that the little bit that spills on the tablecloth, or are you talking about full-on regurgitation for wider consumption?
 
Ant
2008-04-28 12:39:07 PM
Basic Hip: I've always hated fat people. I don't think I can help it. What about my rights?

Nobody is threatening your right to dislike people for completely superficial reasons. You're completely free to be a shallow jerk if you wish.
 
2008-04-28 12:39:21 PM
Jeebus, Klippoklondike, yer scarin' the cat!!!

/and me...
//ouch!
 
2008-04-28 12:39:46 PM
Zxaranthium:

Good job trying to drop your weight, if you keep at it consistently you will see results.

Do you really get made fun of in the gym? The reason I ask is because I was about 40lbs overweight and was afraid of working out in the gym. But there was no real reason for my fears, it was just my own insecurities. Most gyms I've been to the only thing people care about is finishing their workouts and going home.

One thing you might consider is going to the gym in the morning. Usually the AM crowd is just there to workout and go to work. They're not going to hang out by the machines and chat with their buddies or try to flex so the cute girl notices them.
 
2008-04-28 12:39:47 PM
It's unfortunate that most fat people are too stupid and/or lazy to realize that their problems would be solved with a little moderation and some light exercise.

I guess that extra-large serving of french fries or that delicious lard-filled super burrito is much more important than self-respect, being able to fit in one seat, or the ability to have sex with another human being without inspiring feelings of revulsion.
 
2008-04-28 12:39:56 PM
www.bumperactive.com
 
2008-04-28 12:40:18 PM
The Voice of Sarcastic Reason: If some employers pass up the best candidates because they are overweight, doesn't that just mean that other employers who *aren't* discriminatory get to load up their organizations with super-competent fat people and then destroy their competition?

No, that isn't how it works.

The Voice of Sarcastic Reason: Doesn't capitalism inherently punish people who refuse to hire the best candidate for a job, already?

Depends on the market, the type of work the job requires, and the difference in skills of the candidates.
 
2008-04-28 12:41:34 PM
FortKnox: Is it the National Association for the Advancedment of Fat People (NAAFP)?

The Lyrics to the NAAFP Anthem:

Stand up all fat men
Stand up straight
Stand up because no chair can hold your weight

If God created us to be so big
That's proof
He must be a big fat pig

God's really flabby with an ass so wide
His arms look like pillows with cake mix inside
God's man boobs are flabby and they hurt when he jogs
And the back of God's neck looks like a pack of hot dogs
 
2008-04-28 12:41:51 PM
jst3p: As a society we can't give everyone the right to live their life any way they see fit. Some people are really farked up. I understanding what you are saying and I don't agree that the government should regulate or protect fat people but "live however you want" is flawed. Since the first part of your conditional statement is broken the second part is moot.

Not necessarily. Obviously your way of life cannot infringe upon the rights of others, however we must be careful how we define those rights.
 
2008-04-28 12:43:02 PM
Galvatron Zero:

I find groups like this -- groups looking to categorize obesity right alongside race, religion and sexual orientation -- are doing obese people a huge disservice. They are reinforcing the notion that being fat is just a way of being when it doesn't have to be.


Thank you...and congrats on the weight loss
 
2008-04-28 12:43:06 PM
These threads always serve to demonstrate how badly we want to be able to hate someone without legitimate reason. We want to hate and we need to hate. Everytime they take away one of the things we are allowed to hate people for, we cling all the harder to what is left.

Look at the people in this thread getting downright angry at even the suggestion that they may someday have to pretend to be a decent human being, even to a fat person. Once that is gone, we won't give up hate, we will just find some other reason to justify it.

It is like the experiments they did in schools where they gave half the kids an arm band. In no time at all, kids with arm bands were hating kids without them, and vice versa.

We loves us some hate!
 
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