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(Fox News)   Atheist soldier is sent home from Iraq early because of threats to his life.....from other U.S. soldiers   ( foxnews.com) divider line
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2008-04-26 11:06:46 AM  
How christian of them
 
2008-04-26 11:12:38 AM  
We're f*cked! Not even the troops support the troops.
 
2008-04-26 11:20:10 AM  
Bob Down: How christian of them

Onward christian soldiers.
 
2008-04-26 11:20:28 AM  
Onward christian soldiers.
 
2008-04-26 11:31:13 AM  
Bullshiat. The ranks of the Marine Corps are packed full of agnostics and atheists, and it was never a problem. I'd say that it's safe that the religious fruitcakes were in the minority, at least in the barracks stateside.

On deployment, about a third would get religious, about a third would be drunks, and the other third would work out all the time. I guess I could see the scales tipping if they have asshole religious officers leading them.
 
2008-04-26 11:34:48 AM  
I didn't see anywhere in the article where it said anyone threatened his life.
 
2008-04-26 11:53:28 AM  
When I was in this sort of "you need to convert" crap was omnipresent, particularly amongst the brass.
 
2008-04-26 12:12:43 PM  
Nabb1: I didn't see anywhere in the article where it said anyone threatened his life.

FTFA: Hall was in Qatar when the lawsuit was filed on Sept. 18 in federal court in Kansas City, Kan. Other soldiers learned of it and he feared for his own safety.
 
2008-04-26 12:15:32 PM  
Fanatical Spiritualism, like Nationalism, is an old world disease we still haven't found the cure for...


Bravo to this soldier for standing up for himself.
 
2008-04-26 12:18:57 PM  
LordZorch: When I was in this sort of "you need to convert" crap was omnipresent, particularly amongst the brass.

That's horrible. Religion interfered with our drinking, whoring, and gambling far too much to be allowed in the barracks.
 
2008-04-26 12:27:10 PM  
Molavian: Bullshiat. The ranks of the Marine Corps are packed full of agnostics and atheists, and it was never a problem. I'd say that it's safe that the religious fruitcakes were in the minority, at least in the barracks stateside.

On deployment, about a third would get religious, about a third would be drunks, and the other third would work out all the time. I guess I could see the scales tipping if they have asshole religious officers leading them.


Don't know about the Marines but I do know that within the last ten year there has been a major push in the Army by evangelical Christians to use the service as to spread their faith.
 
2008-04-26 12:45:52 PM  
When your CO tells you to believe in something, whether it's Iraqi WMDs or some other fairy tale, you'd damn well better believe in it.
 
2008-04-26 12:58:20 PM  
what's an athiest?
 
2008-04-26 01:03:38 PM  
bulldg4life: what's an athiest?


The person who is the most athi?
 
2008-04-26 01:07:07 PM  
I refuse to believe that Christians would ever pressure anyone to believe as they do. It's unpossible.
 
2008-04-26 01:14:28 PM  
Well, I guess there really aren't any atheists in foxholes. At least not anymore.

And more power to them for figuring out a way out of that farking meat grinder.
 
2008-04-26 01:18:50 PM  
Hell yes, he was a threat. If he doesn't believe in that, think of the other things he might not believe.
 
2008-04-26 01:19:59 PM  
Wow, I thought the Air Force was the branch full o' crazy fundies.
 
2008-04-26 01:26:08 PM  
You'd think soldiers that are stationed together, live together, train together, and fight together would learn just how reliable and dependable a person is based on their actions, not their beliefs, and treat them with respect for that.

Guess not... Kind of a shame really.
 
2008-04-26 01:36:40 PM  
Afterward, his commander asked whether he believed in God, Hall said.

"No, but I believe in Plexiglas"


His motives are a bit transparent.
 
2008-04-26 01:42:12 PM  
simsite9: Well, I guess there really aren't any atheists in foxholes. At least not anymore.

Came here to say that.

On the other hand, team morale comes before individual beliefs. If he was a douche, like some of Farks resident atheists, then sending him on might have been the best thing.

The entire story is told from his POV, remember. Even the most honest of people can be unreliable narrators.

On the gripping hand, it's more likely he ran into a turboChristian commander who really is a douche, but there's no way of reliably telling from the article.
 
2008-04-26 01:44:12 PM  
VictoryCabal: Wow, I thought the Air Force was the branch full o' crazy fundies.

Met a couple while I was in, including one who was practically a Branch Davidian.

After Waco, he was ranting that Koresh might really have been the second coming or some shiat.

I told him if that was the case, then the official vampire repellant for the next two thousand years was a leg of KFC Extra-crispy.
 
2008-04-26 01:44:17 PM  
"Nobody's an atheist in the foxhole"
 
2008-04-26 01:48:19 PM  
Boojum2k: I told him if that was the case, then the official vampire repellant for the next two thousand years was a leg of KFC Extra-crispy.

Lulz.
 
2008-04-26 02:19:41 PM  
Coronach: Onward christian soldiers.

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For the honor of our blue eyed, blond haired, fair skinned, Middle Eastern born God who is his own father!
 
2008-04-26 02:30:14 PM  
gopher321: "Nobody's an atheist in the foxhole"

Exactly. They are too busy trying to kill or be killed to ponder the existence of the supernatural.
 
2008-04-26 02:44:44 PM  
VictoryCabal: Wow, I thought the Air Force was the branch full o' crazy fundies.

They are, but no service is immune to people pushing their religion while in uniform. That said, the Navy is by far the least fundies. I guess that's because of our tradition of booze and broads.
 
2008-04-26 02:57:31 PM  
Christian hate rears its ugly head again.

I don't know how they can claim to be better than Muslims. In many cases they're just as awful.
 
2008-04-26 02:58:34 PM  
doyner: VictoryCabal: Wow, I thought the Air Force was the branch full o' crazy fundies.

They are, but no service is immune to people pushing their religion while in uniform. That said, the Navy is by far the least fundies. I guess that's because of our tradition of booze and broads.


Don't forget the sodomy!
 
2008-04-26 02:58:56 PM  
In other news, the sky is blue and Ric Romero is Fark's favorite reporter.
 
2008-04-26 02:59:13 PM  
doyner

They are, but no service is immune to people pushing their religion while in uniform. That said, the Navy is by far the least fundies. I guess that's because of our tradition of booze and broads.


And the sodomy; can't forget the sodomy. After three months at sea / under the ocean, Crewman Dan starts looking pretty good.
 
2008-04-26 02:59:14 PM  
Too bad no one told Klinger.
 
2008-04-26 02:59:54 PM  
Atheist, you can still be prejudiced against them.

/There is nothing to stop them from raping and killing children.
 
2008-04-26 03:00:48 PM  
Beats the hell out of a Section 8.
 
2008-04-26 03:02:38 PM  
Only_A_Lad: doyner

They are, but no service is immune to people pushing their religion while in uniform. That said, the Navy is by far the least fundies. I guess that's because of our tradition of booze and broads.

And the sodomy; can't forget the sodomy. After three months at sea / under the ocean, Crewman Dan starts looking pretty good.


We have women on ships now.
 
2008-04-26 03:03:20 PM  
submitter: Athiest soldier

I dunno, I think I'm athier than he is.
 
2008-04-26 03:03:26 PM  
Only_A_Lad: doyner

They are, but no service is immune to people pushing their religion while in uniform. That said, the Navy is by far the least fundies. I guess that's because of our tradition of booze and broads.

And the sodomy; can't forget the sodomy. After three months at sea / under the ocean, Crewman Dan starts looking pretty good.


and the lash.
 
2008-04-26 03:03:39 PM  
I was surprised to read that this guy went through all of that. I am also an atheist, was in the army and deployed to Iraq. Never did I receive even a fraction of the problems this guy has.

My 1SG, who was very VERY devout, occasionally gave me problems...but that was probably because after he banned me from playing NWA CDs because he deemed them indecent, I launched a complaint against his playing of gospel music because it promotes a book rife with rape, incest, and violence.

Otherwise, everything was fine with everyone else.
 
2008-04-26 03:03:44 PM  
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2008-04-26 03:03:47 PM  
"Do you believe in god?"

"No, but I believe in Plexiglas." FTW

/DRTFA, but that quote was in the one from CNN.
 
2008-04-26 03:04:11 PM  
Boojum2k: simsite9: Well, I guess there really aren't any atheists in foxholes. At least not anymore.

Came here to say that.

On the other hand, team morale comes before individual beliefs. If he was a douche, like some of Farks resident atheists, then sending him on might have been the best thing.

The entire story is told from his POV, remember. Even the most honest of people can be unreliable narrators.

On the gripping hand, it's more likely he ran into a turboChristian commander who really is a douche, but there's no way of reliably telling from the article.


For some Christians, and I'm not saying your one of them, even simply proclaiming atheist views is too much for them to handle and one is accused of being a loud-mouth "Dawkins-type new atheist." As if being compared to Richard Dawkins is insulting.
 
2008-04-26 03:04:47 PM  
bulldg4life: what's an athiest?

Atheists don't believe in anything. We don't even believe in I before E except after C.
 
2008-04-26 03:04:49 PM  
Athiest soldier is sent home from Iraq early because of threats to his life.....from other U.S. soldiers

So...they were jealous of how athy he was?
 
2008-04-26 03:04:49 PM  
eff ewe: Beats the hell out of a Section 8.

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Really?
 
2008-04-26 03:05:07 PM  
whatshisname: His motives are a bit transparent.

winner winner chicken dinner
 
2008-04-26 03:05:09 PM  
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Just to get it out of the way
 
2008-04-26 03:05:30 PM  
Only_A_Lad: After three months at sea / under the ocean, Crewman Dan starts looking pretty good.

nah man, that's what you use 15 minutes in your bunk with your sock, it's not like it's prison.
 
2008-04-26 03:05:58 PM  
fifty bucks says he was being an asshat.
 
2008-04-26 03:06:04 PM  
Only_A_Lad: And the sodomy; can't forget the sodomy

re-elect_jimmy_carter: and the lash

Why is the rum gone?
 
2008-04-26 03:06:43 PM  
doyner: Only_A_Lad: doyner

They are, but no service is immune to people pushing their religion while in uniform. That said, the Navy is by far the least fundies. I guess that's because of our tradition of booze and broads.

And the sodomy; can't forget the sodomy. After three months at sea / under the ocean, Crewman Dan starts looking pretty good.

We have women on ships now.


Do you think he joined the navy for the women? No. He wants sailor ass.
 
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