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2008-04-14 02:39:14 PM
infantry: and the funny thing is that obama is making a generalization. he should have learned in college that you aren't supposed to make generalizations. he is a hypocrite

I agree. All Presidential candidates besides Obama have addressed each and every American citizen individually, like the Magic Mirror in Romper Room.
 
2008-04-14 02:39:32 PM
Brett Favre: It is hilarious to read some of the comments on here. Religion is a personal issue, I know Obama has his religion, it just focuses more on politics than it does on God. I can tell you this, a lot of rural America could careless about politics because politics is about money. Rural America does not value money and power as much as urban America. I have experienced both and yes there are exceptions, but for the most part this is true.

I just wanna know if Aaron Rodgers gets hit by a train and loses both his legs, will you come back to GB?
 
2008-04-14 02:39:40 PM
Being from small town Pennsylvania, I'm getting a kick out of these replies.

Obama needs a big kick in his ass.
 
2008-04-14 02:39:40 PM
barjockey: HOLY FARK!

Now we have to be subjected to pseudo-intellectual diagrams to defend what Obama said?

There is no shame.


I know. Elitist Venn Diagram! HA! HA!
 
2008-04-14 02:39:55 PM
barjockey: What Obama really said: "Agree with me and you will be the LAST against the wall come the revolution."

What I really said: you're an idiot and you can't defend your own ideals so you attack others.
 
2008-04-14 02:40:07 PM
cameroncrazy1984: barjockey: Now we have to be subjected to pseudo-intellectual diagrams to defend what Obama said?

There is no shame.

This just in: calling it "pseudo-intellectual" doesn't make it any less true. Why don't you try to factually debunk it?


Debunk this:

jamillan.com
 
2008-04-14 02:40:34 PM
barjockey: Now we have to be subjected to pseudo-intellectual diagrams to defend what Obama said?


Venn diagrams are elitist.
 
2008-04-14 02:40:37 PM
kc987654: Um, the fact we have an Electoral College shows that the founding fathers did NOT intend for us to have universal suffrage (especially John Adams). And they had no qualms at all about denying slaves and women the right to vote.

Your reading comprehension is terrible. I never said the founding fathers were responsible of universal suffrage- I said they were responsible for a republican form of government.

My point still stands- I'll give you one more chance to reply to my post in a sensible fashion, then I wash my hands of you.
 
2008-04-14 02:40:38 PM
danielsangeo: If he wants me to understand what led him to the conclusion he's giving? Yes.

Even then, he will likely have just misspoken.

How do you know that?


I meant Obama in your kitchen, you probably knew that though.
 
2008-04-14 02:40:38 PM
someonelse: Relatively Obscure: How anyone could look at that collection of pictures and take them as serious (hell, look at the LAST one!) will forever be beyond me.

If Dulce truly is some kind of reverse troll provocateur, I am in awe of his commitment to premise. He has been using the same Koran picture for weeks/months.


Maybe you're right, but damn. I look at that and think there's just no way it's not an attempt at humor. And actually, the pictures made me chuckle.
 
2008-04-14 02:40:55 PM
danielsangeo: 2008-04-14 01:58:21 PM


Sorry, but we want to win against the people that actually attacked us. (Hint: They're not in Iraq or Iran.)

Wow, you are seriously deluded. Iraqis did not carry out the 911 attacks personally, but they had a direct operational role in planning them. Do you really think some random terrorists could ahve planned that? It was the iraqi intelligence service that helped out the Hamburg cell, and met with its members on several occasions. this is all documented. It is called being part of a conspiracy. Like in the US, there are felony murder laws where if you give someone a gun and they use it to kill someone, you are guilty of murder too. Same principal applies here.
 
2008-04-14 02:40:59 PM
LowPlainsDrifter: I've noticed an interesting trend in liberals (this is not coming from a conservative, mind you). They make a great show of being for the "working man" and "fighting the power" of corporate America. They wax poetically about the pious honesty of the downtrodden and poor.

At Democratic fund raisers.

But in real life, it's not hard to notice that liberals hold actual real life working men blue collar values in contempt. They make no bones about mocking those things the average working man believes in; family, being left alone, guns, hunting, fishing, raising their children as Christians (for the most part), not valuing college, and so on. Liberals absolutely seethe with hatred at these things and don't bother to hide their contempt while projecting a huge aura of Ivory Tower "I am smarter than those yokels" elitism.

The working man, blue collar types, the "downtrodden" and poor are imaginary images to them I think. The real life versions of those people disgust liberals fully.

Just an observation. I find it interesting in a way.

/ot Back to your scheduled thread, already in progress.


Most of those things are kinda dumb. Like not being interested in college.. and religion. I wonder why people might mock those things.
 
2008-04-14 02:41:22 PM
You gotta hand it to the Clintons...Hillary lies about her advocacy of Nafta, her hubby and chief strategist openly advocate for a Colombian free trade deal, she "misspeaks" about an incident where she heroically dodges sniper fire, etc., etc., etc....

...and here we are talking about a guy who suggests that voters in the Rust Belt just might be bitter.

/soooo....tired....of....Clintons.
 
2008-04-14 02:41:25 PM
for* (not of) universal sufferage
 
2008-04-14 02:41:26 PM
nopokerface: danielsangeo: If he wants me to understand what led him to the conclusion he's giving? Yes.

Even then, he will likely have just misspoken.

How do you know that?

I meant Obama in your kitchen, you probably knew that though.


Um... What?
 
2008-04-14 02:41:35 PM
barjockey: HOLY FARK! Now we have to be subjected to pseudo-intellectual diagrams to defend what Obama said? There is no shame.

Now if I wanted to shut you down I'd just tell you to look up Obama's full quote in context, barjockey, but I don't think you would take the time to educate yourself and that would just continue to go off half-cocked.
 
2008-04-14 02:42:07 PM
Drunk Astronaut: Seems like there are plenty of whackos in big cities too.

I propose an urban-trash meets rural-trash not-so royal rumble. Who would win? Rednecks with their guns or the gangstas with their guns? My money is on the rednecks.
 
2008-04-14 02:43:01 PM
Heh. Like the people who are taking ultra umbrage at this would vote for Obama anyhow. Well except for the Hillary supporters. Who knows what they will do.
 
2008-04-14 02:43:16 PM
Obama confuses "wanting help and not getting it" with "not wanting help in the first place". We get along quite well in these small towns and are sick of the government screwing things up.
 
2008-04-14 02:43:20 PM
Simplest Quantum System Conceivable:
I know. Elitist Venn Diagram! HA! HA!


Control_this:
Venn diagrams are elitist.


It's crowded at this level. I'd go for fancier repartee but I don't want to confuse them.
 
2008-04-14 02:43:26 PM
Simplest Quantum System Conceivable: barjockey: HOLY FARK!

Now we have to be subjected to pseudo-intellectual diagrams to defend what Obama said?

There is no shame.

I know. Elitist Venn Diagram! HA! HA!


Nothing about a Venn diagram is elitist. Using one to try and "explain" what some dillhole said when he thought no one was listening except his wide-eyed supporter-bots, is beyond the snarkiest, snobbiest, most elitist garbage I've ever seen.
 
2008-04-14 02:43:58 PM
LowPlainsDrifter: Bush was born into an aristocratic, East Coast, extremely rich, old-money family.

Nah, I agree. I think you misunderstood me. It's that Bush managed to win reelection and get his cross-government "mandate" by catering specifically to that particular crowd. No one is debating that they were the overwhelming bastion of the current administration's initial support.

And as such, I don't think catering to that subset is a wise move next time around. They had their chance to swing the pendulum in their direction with someone they thought (perhaps incorrectly) represented their viewpoint, and they farked it up. So maybe the best thing for the country right now is a severe swing in the other direction, as loathe as I am to admit it.
 
2008-04-14 02:44:00 PM
DaSwankOne: LowPlainsDrifter: Seriously. This.

There are always the fundamentalist types here or there that get hot under the collar on occasion. Most though, they have lives to live and could give two shiats outside of what you mentioned.

Well if you don't give two shiats, don't vote.


"You"?

Wasn't making claims about myself actually.

If you mean them, yeah, perhaps. And if we could convince elitists and activists to do the same life would be grand and we could live on candy coated streets, eat calorie free yet tasty ice cream and our farts would smell like fresh rose petals.
 
2008-04-14 02:44:13 PM
DulceEtDecorumEst: danielsangeo: 2008-04-14 01:58:21 PM


Sorry, but we want to win against the people that actually attacked us. (Hint: They're not in Iraq or Iran.)

Wow, you are seriously deluded. Iraqis did not carry out the 911 attacks personally, but they had a direct operational role in planning them.


You're really going to have to back this up because Bush and Cheney disagree with you.

Do you really think some random terrorists could ahve planned that? It was the iraqi intelligence service that helped out the Hamburg cell, and met with its members on several occasions. this is all documented.

Got those documents?

It is called being part of a conspiracy. Like in the US, there are felony murder laws where if you give someone a gun and they use it to kill someone, you are guilty of murder too. Same principal applies here.

Let me know when you got that evidence. kthx
 
2008-04-14 02:44:46 PM
danielsangeo: Um... What?

If Obama admitted he was the most liberal senator in the deniers of that fact's own homes, they would still deny it. My clarity, it needs work.
 
2008-04-14 02:45:28 PM
DulceEtDecorumEst: Wow, you are seriously deluded. Iraqis did not carry out the 911 attacks personally, but they had a direct operational role in planning them. Do you really think some random terrorists could ahve planned that? It was the iraqi intelligence service that helped out the Hamburg cell, and met with its members on several occasions. this is all documented.

You look like a size 7 3/4. Do you prefer shiny side out or dull side out?

And why so bitter?
 
2008-04-14 02:45:32 PM
dognose4: Obama confuses "wanting help and not getting it" with "not wanting help in the first place". We get along quite well in these small towns and are sick of the government screwing things up.

I suppose it's probably a good thing that no one referenced "small towns" in general, then.
 
2008-04-14 02:46:08 PM
Everyone's Collective Imaginary Friend:

#1. One terrorist act does not a war make. The biggest lie of this presidency has been that terrorism can be fought via war. Acts of terrorism are politically motivated CRIMES, and must be dealt with through police actions, both overseas and abroad.

You can go to WAR with governments which refuse to police the terrorist criminals that are attacking your nation, but you can't go to war with terrorists, any more than you can go to war with a serial killer.

#2. Our enemy are terrorists, regardless of their religion. The fact that these terrorists happen to be a subset of the greater muslim population doesn't make the greater population our enemy. But it is that sort of attitude that lets this country kill 100,000 innocent civilians in Iraq without any real sense of guilt.

#3 Saddam had nothing to do with 9/11. Dick Cheney himself admitted to that at one point. The fact that you and many other people still believe that there was ever a link, or even any evidence suggestive of a link is evidence of the sad state of our national news media.

#4 You say that if it wasn't for people like me we could finish this thing quickly. I think that if the world were left to people like you, the U.S. would be actively ingaged in a world-wide genocide of muslims (since you can't tell the difference between a muslim terrorists and a muslim civilian).


First of all, where do you get off talking about "the greatest lie of this presidency"? show some damn respect. bush is one of the few world leaders who understands the threat we face from global islamofascism, and you are just one of those children who likes to compare him to hitler. Second, since the majority of muslims support or participate in their terror campaign, it is a waste of time to distinguish between them. Third, the links between iraqi intelligence services and 911 is well established. Fourth, genocide is when you attack civilians, and since muslims are not civilians but combatants, it is not genocide.
 
2008-04-14 02:48:15 PM
What does John Cougar Mellencrap think about all this?
 
2008-04-14 02:48:19 PM
DulceEtDecorumEst:
First of all, where do you get off talking about "the greatest lie of this presidency"? (Etc etc.)


Wow, either you get a 9 out of 10, or... your Coolaid, can I has some?
 
2008-04-14 02:48:25 PM
barjockey:

What Obama really said: "Agree with me and you will be the LAST against the wall come the revolution."

SUBJYC
 
2008-04-14 02:48:42 PM
dog nose:

Words to make a liberal swoon..

"I'm from teh government, and I'm here to help"

Words to make the rest of us have ichy trigger fingers:

"I'm from teh government and I'm here to help"
 
2008-04-14 02:48:47 PM
Oooh it looks like we touched a nerve with barjockey maybe it's past his naptime and he hasn't had his milk yet.
 
2008-04-14 02:49:47 PM
Sofa King Awesome: barjockey: HOLY FARK! Now we have to be subjected to pseudo-intellectual diagrams to defend what Obama said? There is no shame.

Now if I wanted to shut you down I'd just tell you to look up Obama's full quote in context, barjockey, but I don't think you would take the time to educate yourself and that would just continue to go off half-cocked.


We're always told to read what he said "in context" - ad nauseum. Over and over again, Obama says something that exposes his gross incompetence and the defense machine cranks up and tells us to read it in context. What if I can't read? After all, I'm just a small town mouth-breather that farts bible verses and wacks off on my gun collection to my Dale Jr. posters.
 
2008-04-14 02:50:06 PM
Proof Obama is right:

earthissquare.com

/ducks
//former Kentucky resident
 
2008-04-14 02:50:18 PM
Hey, you farking morons. Look what happened the last time you voted for the "not so smart talking guy".

How did having a smart, well spoken, successful guy in the office become a bad thing?

/And they wonder why the rest of the world has stopped taking them seriously.
 
2008-04-14 02:50:24 PM
DulceEtDecorumEst:

Dulce, it was pointed out to you on Friday that the picture of what you claimed was Barack Obama's hands on the Koran were in fact Keith Ellison's. Yet you keep on using that picture and claiming it is Obama. What gives? Why do you keep posting it over and over?
 
2008-04-14 02:50:52 PM
Personally, I cannot wait for January 09 and the swearing in ceremony of President Obama. It will be such fun watching the GOP mouthbreathers trying to wrap their little minds around a black man in the white house.
 
2008-04-14 02:50:57 PM
barjockey: What if I can't read?

Then you are one lucky monkey at a typewriter. When can we expect Shakespeare?

We're supposed to take you seriously when you reject context?
 
2008-04-14 02:50:58 PM
fifthhorseman: kc987654:
I vote against my economic interests, though

Why? I have never been able to understand poor people who support tax cuts for the rich, or rich people who support higher taxes on themselves. Why would you choose to disadvantage yourself like that? I've never understood the desire to slit your own economic throat. I've seen it time and again, but never understood it. If you could clue me, I'd appreciate it.


Well, seriously, there are two points A) a sense of morality that people shouldn't suffer without some form of safety net and B) the appreciation that the government allows me to make more than average without having to defend my property myself. I really don't think a system of favelas and gated communities is desirable.

/my opinion
 
2008-04-14 02:51:21 PM
sonofagunn: My money is on the rednecks.

Not if there are one-way streets anywhere on the battlefield.
 
2008-04-14 02:51:36 PM
I have been saying this for about a year now. Clinton will be the next pres. Get used to it. She has been chosen for us by the real power in this country. Its NOT a coincidence that a the US has not had an presidential election without a Bush or Clinton in almost 30 years (VP's count).

* Obama is just a distraction and a way to create mass apathy when he loses.

* McCain was chosen because he can't win. A lot of people hate him and the ones who like him realize he is too old.

* Nader is a means to crush all hope of a 3rd party and scorn those who want to create one.

The USA was never a Democracy and it never will be.
 
2008-04-14 02:51:40 PM
danielsangeo
Got those documents?

Sandy Berger probably took them ;-)

/Got nothing.
 
2008-04-14 02:52:10 PM
Hebalo: Hey, you farking morons. Look what happened the last time you voted for the "not so smart talking guy".

How did having a smart, well spoken, successful guy in the office become a bad thing?

/And they wonder why the rest of the world has stopped taking them seriously.


Who is the smart, well spoken one? Just so I know.

/isn't it per se racist to call a black guy well spoken?
//so you must mean McCain?
 
2008-04-14 02:52:37 PM
evareste: Clinton will be the next pres. Get used to it. She has been chosen for us by the real power in this country.

Might want to adjust that tinfoil you got there.
 
2008-04-14 02:52:46 PM
barjockey:

Now we have to be subjected to pseudo-intellectual diagrams to defend
what Obama said?


boingboing.net
 
2008-04-14 02:53:02 PM
In college, I worked for the university police department. Among other things, we did security for special events in the basketball arena. Concerts, Games, Professional Wrestling, etc. Being fairly liberal myself, I came to a conclusion while working with a friend who practically considered himself a socialist. We were working a professional wrestling event, and I turned to him and said "Do you know what wrong with socialism is? These are the people you're helping"

I grew up in a small town in Rural Ohio, and I can say with certainty that the biggest problem with Obama's comments is they were so dead on accurate it upset the people from these areas. It's amazing to watch destitute people vote republican every year and put more of the burden of running this country on their own shoulders because the issues that are more important to them than eating, more important than the education of their children, is gun control and religion. Frankly, none of those morons were ever going to vote for Obama in the first place.
 
2008-04-14 02:54:10 PM
Hebalo: How did having a smart, well spoken, attractive and successful guy in the office become a bad thing?
 
2008-04-14 02:54:11 PM
i'm from s.w. p.a fayette county aka fayettenam, it's a patch thing you wouldn't understand.
 
2008-04-14 02:54:11 PM
dognose4: We get along quite well in these small towns and are sick of the government screwing things up.

Yeah besides your billions in subsidies and funding for your rotting infrastructure, school systems and interstate highways you all use as Main St. You practically live in state-funded communes, yet decry government intervention into your welfare-collecting, farm-subsidy-spending, speed-trap-operating lives.

Nice try.
 
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