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(New York Daily News)   Devils upset that Rangers winger Sean Avery got in front of goalie Martin Brodeur during 5-on-3 and waved his hands and stick in his face. At least he didn't call Brodeur's wife a lesbian   (nydailynews.com) divider line 107
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2008-04-14 11:51:17 AM
Nice reference, submitter. Great movie, that.
 
2008-04-14 11:54:19 AM
First off Brodeur isn't married. Second off what Avery did, though not in the rule book, will be addressed today and will be called an unsportsmanlike conduct penalty from here on out. Biatch boy's got to try something else to get under Brodeur's skin.

Sounds also like subby's a little scared that the Devils are back in it...

Go Devils Definitely F**k the Rangers....and everybody else.
 
2008-04-14 11:58:38 AM
A punk move by a punk player. Avery needs to be dealt with, on the ice, and off.
 
2008-04-14 11:59:26 AM
Any team that had Claude Lemieux on the roster for years suffers from a bit of a credibility issue when complaining about another team's pest.

"Hey, Hanrahan! She's a dyke! I know! I know! She's a lesbian! LESBIAN! LESBIAN!"

It's even funnier when you realize the movie was written by a woman. I bet she'd underline the fark scenes for ya.
 
2008-04-14 12:06:00 PM
Mike F: Second off what Avery did, though not in the rule book,

Depends on the interpretation of the rule book. Rule 75.4, subsection 3:

75.4 Misconduct Penalty - Misconduct penalties shall be assessed under
this rule for the following infractions:
(i) Any player or goalkeeper who persists in using obscene, profane or
abusive language directed towards any person after being assessed
a minor or bench minor penalty under this Rule.
(ii) Any player or goalkeeper who deliberately throws any equipment out
of the playing area. At the discretion of the Referee, a game
misconduct may be imposed.
(iii) Any player or goalkeeper who, after warning by the Referee, persists
in any course of conduct (including threatening or abusive language
or gestures or similar actions) designed to incite an opponent into
incurring a penalty.

(iv) When a penalized player challenges or disputes the ruling of an
official after he has already entered the penalty bench and play has
resumed.

He continued after the warning. They shouldn't have to specify in the rulebook that you shouldn't be a douchebag on the ice, but it looks like they are going to have to do so.
 
2008-04-14 12:20:17 PM
Awesome headline, submitter.

I'm watching this series just in the hopes that someone stomps on Avery.
 
2008-04-14 12:46:27 PM
Wow that's chicken shiat. Brodeur shoulda took his stick and Belfour'd him in the back of the knee.
 
2008-04-14 12:58:25 PM
love that movie...

anyway, Avery was being a douche. he could have at least based a taunt in fact, like, asking Marty how his ex-wife's sister was in bed...

/1940 forever!
//go Devils!
 
2008-04-14 01:04:52 PM
Avery's such a classless piece of garbage. He's got talent, so its a shame, really.

Unfortunately, the Devils are busy trying to play catch-up hockey, and don't have the time to properly deal with someone of his character.

Hey St. Louis, can we get Cam Janssen back for just one night? Maybe just one shift? Please?
 
2008-04-14 01:08:27 PM
unremarkable asterisk:
(iii) Any player or goalkeeper who, after warning by the Referee, persists
in any course of conduct (including threatening or abusive language
or gestures or similar actions) designed to incite an opponent into
incurring a penalty.
[snip]
He continued after the warning. They shouldn't have to specify in the rulebook that you shouldn't be a douchebag on the ice, but it looks like they are going to have to do so.


He wasn't trying to incite Brodeur into committing a penalty; he was trying to block Brodeur's vision and break his concentration. And it worked. Sorry, but if you want there to be a rule against standing within two feet of a goalkeeper without saying "please", you're going to have to pass one. Oh, that's right, the NHL doesn't bother passing new rules; they just arbitrarily redefine the ones they have on the fly. My mistake.

/former NHL fan
 
2008-04-14 01:16:25 PM
KickahaOta: He wasn't trying to incite Brodeur into committing a penalty

There's no question he was trying to incite a penalty and he was trying to break his concentration. I've never seen a player do that before. He did get Brodeur to swing at him once or twice, but he didn't bite. He was warned to knock it off and he didn't. Either way, it was a douchy move and he needs to be knocked around for it.

Flan: Hey St. Louis, can we get Cam Janssen back for just one night? Maybe just one shift? Please?

Sure, you can have Janssen back for a night or two. We really don't need him AND King on the same team. Cool to have a local boy, but we don't need two of the same player. How's Salvador working out for ya? I hated to see him go. Not a great player, but a good, reliable stay-at-home defenseman.
 
2008-04-14 01:36:02 PM
Way to go Devils, let the guy sit there unchallenged. Your defense dropped the puck.

/protect your goalie and root him out of the crease.
//no-body to blame but yourselves.
 
2008-04-14 01:40:16 PM
unremarkable asterisk: Flan: Hey St. Louis, can we get Cam Janssen back for just one night? Maybe just one shift? Please?

Sure, you can have Janssen back for a night or two. We really don't need him AND King on the same team. Cool to have a local boy, but we don't need two of the same player. How's Salvador working out for ya? I hated to see him go. Not a great player, but a good, reliable stay-at-home defenseman.


I like having him. Like you said, he's solid, and you rarely have to worry about him doing something stupid.

Not exactly what we needed at the deadline, but apparently, there was some moves to be made to unload some of the extra D, probably to get some offensive talent, but time ran out on Lou. And since we didn't get a sniper, having some solid defense at least helps minimize the scoring opportunities of the other team. Not having seen a ton of Blues games previous to the deadline, I always thought Salvador was a prototypical PP quarterback, and the guy who'd lead a rush into the other team's zone. Was I wrong, or has he changed his style of play lately?

Cam's got a lot of heart, I was sad to see him go.
 
2008-04-14 01:56:47 PM
I think you're all missing the point here. The point being that Sean Avery has had sex with this woman.
www.elishacuthbert.eu
 
2008-04-14 01:57:15 PM
Should have put on the foil!!!! (everygame)
 
2008-04-14 01:58:57 PM
Dont get me any ofthat stinkin root beer.

They brought their freaking toy's!!

Daves a Killer!!! Daves a mess!!

ok i'll stop now
 
2008-04-14 01:59:22 PM
Sean Avery's just doing anything possible to convince some dumbass to pay him $5 million a year next season.

And someone will, I just know it.
 
2008-04-14 02:00:02 PM
alonzinator: Way to go Devils, let the guy sit there unchallenged. Your defense dropped the puck.

/protect your goalie and root him out of the crease.
//no-body to blame but yourselves.


Exactly.

Screening the goalie is not against the rules.
 
2008-04-14 02:01:31 PM
Since it is not in the rule book I think this is a brilliant play. That being said, I hope it is in the rule book ASAP. As they said on TSN yesterday, the way the ref dealt with it was good... they let Avery do it, but they also let Brodeur punch him, and stick him in the balls. Then, after the play the ref skated by and said something (I don't know what) to him.

As for Avery himself, he is a classless, douchebag player on the ice. But I met him during the lockout when he was playing in a ball hockey tournament I was in, and he was the nicest guy. At one point I was watching a game right, and he was playing next, and he came out of the dressing room to watch for a bit, and just started chatting with my friend and I.
 
2008-04-14 02:02:38 PM
Mike F: Sounds also like subby's a little scared that the Devils are back in it...

Really? I could have read that headline 1000 times (I won't) and I never would have divined that.
 
2008-04-14 02:02:47 PM
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Stop creating a diversion and get out of here!
 
2008-04-14 02:03:10 PM
nyihockey: At one point I was watching a game right, and he was playing next, and he came out of the dressing room to watch for a bit, and just started chatting with my friend and I.

Preview, you idiot.
 
2008-04-14 02:03:27 PM
Flan: I like having him. Like you said, he's solid, and you rarely have to worry about him doing something stupid.

Not exactly what we needed at the deadline, but apparently, there was some moves to be made to unload some of the extra D, probably to get some offensive talent, but time ran out on Lou. And since we didn't get a sniper, having some solid defense at least helps minimize the scoring opportunities of the other team. Not having seen a ton of Blues games previous to the deadline, I always thought Salvador was a prototypical PP quarterback, and the guy who'd lead a rush into the other team's zone. Was I wrong, or has he changed his style of play lately?

Cam's got a lot of heart, I was sad to see him go.


Salvador makes few mistakes and he's reliable. He'll play with some grit too. You'll go games without noticing him, but that's a good thing compared to what I noticed on the Blues blueline this past season (Hey, Edmonton... want Brewer back? We're done with him and we'd like our deposit back!). I didn't want to see Salvador go, but I believe he was a UFA and they had to get something for him. Janssen is the first true St. Louis born player to play in the NHL so the Blues went after a sentimental favorite. I like his grit, but we are now overloaded on grit.

Salvador is good on the pp, but you won't often see him lead the rush. The good thing about him is that he knows his limitations (not offensive-minded) and concentrates on his strengths (defense). He can clear the net and he'll throw down when pushed to do so.
 
2008-04-14 02:03:58 PM
mentallo69: Dont get me any ofthat stinkin root beer.

They brought their freaking toy's!!

Daves a Killer!!! Daves a mess!!

ok i'll stop now


Scouts?
 
2008-04-14 02:06:13 PM
"Brodeur and Devils coach Brent Sutter said the refs had told them that future shenanigans from Avery would be penalized, even though they knew of no specific rule being violated."

Wow, refs beginning to sound like cops. I dont know what you are doing, but i dont personally like it, so i will punish you anyway.



I don't care if they add this kind of thing to the rulebook, fine, but NEXT SEASON. you cant change a rule (1) without a GMs meeting or (2) during the course of a season.
 
2008-04-14 02:07:19 PM
Mike F: First off Brodeur isn't married.

correct, since he farked his ex-wife's sister.
 
2008-04-14 02:08:20 PM
When Detroit was toying with re-aquiring Avery, Chris Chelios told Babcock he'd soundly kick his arse if they got him back.

Smart guy, Chelly.

Let's Go Red Wings!!!
 
2008-04-14 02:08:33 PM
unremarkable asterisk: There's no question he was trying to incite a penalty and he was trying to break his concentration.

Oh no! He was trying to break the Brodeur's concentration?!?!

He should be suspended.
 
2008-04-14 02:09:32 PM
i stand corrected. it was his ex-wife's brother's wife. but he probably nailed her too.
 
2008-04-14 02:11:19 PM
"If his wife's a dyke, does that make him a fag?"
 
2008-04-14 02:12:33 PM
Avery's number is in Brodeur's wife's black book.
 
2008-04-14 02:13:22 PM
DaCaptain19: When Detroit was toying with re-aquiring Avery, Chris Chelios told Babcock he'd soundly kick his arse if they got him back.

Smart guy, Chelly.

Let's Go Red Wings!!!


and Shannahan practically begged Sather to go out and get Sean.

Shanny > Cheli
 
2008-04-14 02:14:11 PM
I think maybe the distinction here is between 1) Good game play and 2) Farking ridiculous behavior.

Holmstrom or Franzen screening the goaltender with their bodies turned towards the ice, and deflecting shots into the net? Good game play. Avery's actions? Not so much.

It's the same reason teams don't just sign some 1,200 pound guy and bring him out with a forklift and sit him in front of the net, drooling alongside a big bucket of popcorn. Goaltending? Good game play. Goalblocking? Not so much.
 
2008-04-14 02:14:26 PM
unremarkable asterisk: ...Either way, it was a douchy move and he needs to be knocked around for it.


Why the fark didn't any of the Devils do just that? I can understand letting it slide during the 5 on 3 but if you want that kind of shiat to stop make damn sure the message is sent on his next shift.
 
2008-04-14 02:14:31 PM
alonzinator: Way to go Devils, let the guy sit there unchallenged. Your defense dropped the puck.

/protect your goalie and root him out of the crease.
//no-body to blame but yourselves.


It was a 5 on 3. With Avery taking himself out of the play, essentially it made it a 4 on 3. If a Devils defenseman were to engage him, it'd be more like a 4 on 2.

The Devils were right not to do anything to him then. More than likely, it would have resulted in an additional penalty if they had.

And while yes, screening the goalie is smart, turning your back to the play isn't. Would his mating dance still be considered effective if he took an errant slapshot to the back of the neck?
 
2008-04-14 02:16:24 PM
You do that, you go to the box, you know. Two minutes, by yourself, you know and you feel shame, you know. And then you get free.
 
2008-04-14 02:17:26 PM
Mr. Coffee Nerves: Any team that had Claude Lemieux on the roster for years suffers from a bit of a credibility issue when complaining about another team's pest.

Can't disagree there. But still, fark the Rangers.
 
2008-04-14 02:17:27 PM
Desquamation: Why the fark didn't any of the Devils do just that?

I was asking the same thing. Not sure why NJ didn't handle it on their own. The kinder, gentler NHL I guess.
 
2008-04-14 02:18:15 PM
LemSkroob 2008-04-14 02:13:22 PM

DaCaptain19: When Detroit was toying with re-aquiring Avery, Chris Chelios told Babcock he'd soundly kick his arse if they got him back.

Smart guy, Chelly.

Let's Go Red Wings!!!

and Shannahan practically begged Sather to go out and get Sean.

Shanny > Cheli


Hey, I'm the last guy who's going to diss one of the best power-forwards in the league AND one who - we all know - was instrumental in the Detroit Red Wings' three (3!) Stanley Cups in the past 11 seasons.

You just gotta know your team. What works in NY may not work in Detroit and vice-versa. I do respect that you like Apples better than Oranges. Me? I like 'em both - for different reasons.
 
2008-04-14 02:19:57 PM
unremarkable asterisk: I was asking the same thing. Not sure why NJ didn't handle it on their own. The kinder, gentler NHL I guess.

Because the Devils no longer have Scott Stevens.
 
2008-04-14 02:20:37 PM
Arman Tamzarian: You do that, you go to the box, you know. Two minutes, by yourself, you know and you feel shame, you know. And then you get free.

Sounds like my last Saturday night.
 
2008-04-14 02:24:35 PM
LessO2: Arman Tamzarian: You do that, you go to the box, you know. Two minutes, by yourself, you know and you feel shame, you know. And then you get free.

Sounds like my last Saturday night.


Reg. Reg, that reminds me. I was coachin' in Omaha in 1948 and Eddie Shore sends me this guy that's a terrible masturbator. Couldn't control himself. He would get deliberate penalties so he could get into the penalty box all by himself, and damned if he wouldn't, you know...
 
2008-04-14 02:27:14 PM
I actually thought it was a genius move - classless maybe but I actually wondered why it was the first time it had been done. There are lots of players who make their living in the crease, this just seemed liked the next (il)logical step ...

/Leafs fan.
 
2008-04-14 02:27:33 PM
they shuld just penalize Sean Avery for being Sean Avery

the guy is d-bag, and plays dirty to boot.

i hope he DIAF
 
2008-04-14 02:29:51 PM
This wouldn't have happened prior to the NHL "cleaning up" the game. A good enforcer would have beaten Avery senseless.

/I miss Tony Twist
 
2008-04-14 02:31:36 PM
mustaphou: Because the Devils no longer have Scott Stevens who was given to them when the NHL forced the Blues to give him to NJ.

Still bitter.
 
2008-04-14 02:34:34 PM
LessO2: Arman Tamzarian: You do that, you go to the box, you know. Two minutes, by yourself, you know and you feel shame, you know. And then you get free.

Sounds like my last Saturday night.


WIN!
 
2008-04-14 02:34:56 PM
DaCaptain19: I think maybe the distinction here is between 1) Good game play and 2) Farking ridiculous behavior.

Holmstrom or Franzen screening the goaltender with their bodies turned towards the ice, and deflecting shots into the net? Good game play. Avery's actions? Not so much.

It's the same reason teams don't just sign some 1,200 pound guy and bring him out with a forklift and sit him in front of the net, drooling alongside a big bucket of popcorn. Goaltending? Good game play. Goalblocking? Not so much.


Well, that and a 1200 pound person would DIE doing that. A book that was released asked that exact question, why wouldnt a team do it. And reason #1 was respect for the game, reason #2 was that the pads couldnt cover the goaltender (Because there is a limit on the size of pads) and the goaltender would get torn to bits. Also gotta factor in the heart conditions he would have prior to even stepping onto the nice... or well... dropped onto the ice.

/avery DOES need to DIAF
//along with Pronger
 
2008-04-14 02:35:21 PM
linc654: I actually thought it was a genius move - classless maybe but I actually wondered why it was the first time it had been done. There are lots of players who make their living in the crease, this just seemed liked the next (il)logical step ...

/Leafs fan.


QCFlamesPodcast: they shuld just penalize Sean Avery for being Sean Avery

the guy is d-bag, and plays dirty to boot.

i hope he DIAF


Why are people expecting class in the front of the net? A place where hacks to the back of the leg, shots to the kid-maker, punches and overall cheapshots take place? Just because Avery thought of it first doesn't mean you should hate on him. What if Holmer thought of it? Everyone would be loving it and saying that its the best idea in the world. I'd take Avery and his antics on my team any day.

I've said it before and I'll say it again - no one should EVER talk about class or someone being classless. There is a 100% chance that you or someone you've rooted for have done something equally as classless.
 
2008-04-14 02:36:30 PM
zippolight2002: DaCaptain19: I think maybe the distinction here is between 1) Good game play and 2) Farking ridiculous behavior.

Holmstrom or Franzen screening the goaltender with their bodies turned towards the ice, and deflecting shots into the net? Good game play. Avery's actions? Not so much.

It's the same reason teams don't just sign some 1,200 pound guy and bring him out with a forklift and sit him in front of the net, drooling alongside a big bucket of popcorn. Goaltending? Good game play. Goalblocking? Not so much.

Well, that and a 1200 pound person would DIE doing that. A book that was released asked that exact question, why wouldnt a team do it. And reason #1 was respect for the game, reason #2 was that the pads couldnt cover the goaltender (Because there is a limit on the size of pads) and the goaltender would get torn to bits. Also gotta factor in the heart conditions he would have prior to even stepping onto the nice... or well... dropped onto the ice.

/avery DOES need to DIAF
//along with Pronger


Note.. they actually took someone out onto the ice with a realistic body suit that weighed some ungodly obese amount, and tried this out. And indeed,it tore the suit to bits, and the person wearing it couldnt move at all + overheated.
 
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